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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to read that one.</description>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-4/#comment-113333</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 00:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to read that one.</description>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 08:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like I was exactly where I was supposed to be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A future novel will come out of my findings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like I was exactly where I was supposed to be.</p>
<p>A future novel will come out of my findings.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was photographer Peter Beard who started that crap about Iman. She comes from a privileged Muslim background as her father was an Ambassador and she speaks 5 languages. I guess that truth would&#039;ve made her seem too uppity for the masses. Alex actually was a refugee. Waris was a survivor of female genital mutilation. The interesting thing I remember about Alex was the brouhaha over white editors thinking she was great when a lot of Black people (Americans) were calling her ugly and questioning why she blew up. That photo was an Essence magazine cover shoot and I think one of her best photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was photographer Peter Beard who started that crap about Iman. She comes from a privileged Muslim background as her father was an Ambassador and she speaks 5 languages. I guess that truth would&#39;ve made her seem too uppity for the masses. Alex actually was a refugee. Waris was a survivor of female genital mutilation. The interesting thing I remember about Alex was the brouhaha over white editors thinking she was great when a lot of Black people (Americans) were calling her ugly and questioning why she blew up. That photo was an Essence magazine cover shoot and I think one of her best photos.</p>
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		<title>By: JunePearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JunePearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like how we did that!</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-4/#comment-112474</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;hope you write more about this.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;susan, I don&#039;t have more analysis that isn&#039;t in the more or less raw stages, and I don&#039;t know if I will ever get more clarity past where I am at now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If a discussion is of interest to you, I would be interested in your take and analysis on the Ganz piece and related things.  I can share the raw stuff I have if you want, or just hear what you have to say. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, feel free to email me at michellesbells at myway dot com if you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>hope you write more about this.</i></p>
<p>susan, I don&#39;t have more analysis that isn&#39;t in the more or less raw stages, and I don&#39;t know if I will ever get more clarity past where I am at now.</p>
<p>If a discussion is of interest to you, I would be interested in your take and analysis on the Ganz piece and related things.  I can share the raw stuff I have if you want, or just hear what you have to say. </p>
<p>Anyway, feel free to email me at michellesbells at myway dot com if you want.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember 7 of 9(Jeri Ryan)...do you realize that she&#039;s partly responsible for Barack Obama&#039;s rise to power?  She was married to &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(2004_U.S._Senate_candidate)&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jack Ryan&lt;/a&gt;, who ran against Barack in &#039;04, but had to get out of the reace because his naughty sexual habits got exposed in the divorce papers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wow, you just connected Star Trek to Barack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember 7 of 9(Jeri Ryan)&#8230;do you realize that she&#39;s partly responsible for Barack Obama&#39;s rise to power?  She was married to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ryan_(2004_U.S._Senate_candidate)" rel="nofollow">Jack Ryan</a>, who ran against Barack in &#39;04, but had to get out of the reace because his naughty sexual habits got exposed in the divorce papers.</p>
<p>Wow, you just connected Star Trek to Barack.</p>
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		<title>By: JunePearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JunePearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dad is all about Klingons, lol!!!! If I was going to be a character I would be cross between a Klingon and a Betazoid! Wouldn&#039;t that be an interesting combination!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dad is all about Klingons, lol!!!! If I was going to be a character I would be cross between a Klingon and a Betazoid! Wouldn&#39;t that be an interesting combination!!</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL!</description>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-4/#comment-112450</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  How did it make you feel to know that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  How did it make you feel to know that?</p>
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		<title>By: JunePearl</title>
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		<dc:creator>JunePearl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 00:28:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, Guinan came across as very ethereal. Like a more serious version of &quot;Q&quot;. BTW, Q was a character that irritated me at first, but when he had the first Q child, he became more interesting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ditto on the Prime Directive! And another thing, their focus was on understanding the cultures and working with their ways of viewing the world. If Bush really wanted Democracy, fine. But why does it have to look like American democracy? It could be a different style. But noooooo! Bush had to take over the world, and y&#039;all know Cheney with his greedy self was focused on getting his own action.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wish TNG or Voyager were still on, it would have been nice to see how they would have incorporated current events into their own moral/ethical views of interacting with others.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, and Data for me was more endearing and charming. If we&#039;re talking about the brothers that were fine and I would have liked to talk to, there is no competition for Chakotay!! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;BTW, does any one remember  Seven of Nine? I think they went in the wrong direction with her, she got kinda boring and predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#39;s true, Guinan came across as very ethereal. Like a more serious version of &#8220;Q&#8221;. BTW, Q was a character that irritated me at first, but when he had the first Q child, he became more interesting.</p>
<p>Ditto on the Prime Directive! And another thing, their focus was on understanding the cultures and working with their ways of viewing the world. If Bush really wanted Democracy, fine. But why does it have to look like American democracy? It could be a different style. But noooooo! Bush had to take over the world, and y&#39;all know Cheney with his greedy self was focused on getting his own action.</p>
<p>I wish TNG or Voyager were still on, it would have been nice to see how they would have incorporated current events into their own moral/ethical views of interacting with others.</p>
<p>Oh, and Data for me was more endearing and charming. If we&#39;re talking about the brothers that were fine and I would have liked to talk to, there is no competition for Chakotay!! </p>
<p>BTW, does any one remember  Seven of Nine? I think they went in the wrong direction with her, she got kinda boring and predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wolverine is MINE, I tell you, MINE!!!    Love TNG too.  Jean-Luc &amp; Worf are my favs.  I&#039;m klining to my Klingon and my prune juice.  :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolverine is MINE, I tell you, MINE!!!    Love TNG too.  Jean-Luc &#038; Worf are my favs.  I&#39;m klining to my Klingon and my prune juice.  :-))</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-3/#comment-112405</link>
		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, thank you so much for sharing this momentous occassion. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You eloquently captured the power &amp; richness of family, history, and the ngenuity of the human spirit!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gratefully, Spirit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, thank you so much for sharing this momentous occassion. </p>
<p>You eloquently captured the power &#038; richness of family, history, and the ngenuity of the human spirit!</p>
<p>Gratefully, Spirit</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-3/#comment-112403</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Town:  LOL!  :&gt;)      &lt;b&gt;I &#039;on&#039;t know!&lt;/b&gt;    ***shrug shoulders***  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;D/afroacademic:   Do U  know &quot;WHYCOME?&quot;    :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Town:  LOL!  :&gt;)      <b>I &#39;on&#39;t know!</b>    ***shrug shoulders***  </p>
<p>D/afroacademic:   Do U  know &#8220;WHYCOME?&#8221;    :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/12/monday-open-thread-22/comment-page-3/#comment-112389</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s gonna get a letter from Tiger..any day now...its coming....</description>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And why aren&#039;t albino transsexual dwarfs not included on your list? What do you have against them? I thought Obama was all about the diversity!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No justice! No peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why aren&#39;t albino transsexual dwarfs not included on your list? What do you have against them? I thought Obama was all about the diversity!!!!</p>
<p>No justice! No peace!</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He hasn&#039;t chosen any Cablinasians, so his diversity efforts don&#039;t count.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He hasn&#39;t chosen any Cablinasians, so his diversity efforts don&#39;t count.</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I want to know is why was he the first black elector in VA?  We have the 3rd congressional district which was gerrymandered around the state to group all the black people outside of NoVa together.  Whycome [/greenlady] there hasn&#039;t been a black elector from that district?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I want to know is why was he the first black elector in VA?  We have the 3rd congressional district which was gerrymandered around the state to group all the black people outside of NoVa together.  Whycome [/greenlady] there hasn&#39;t been a black elector from that district?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 23:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everytime I click on this page, I have to just stare at that photo for a couple of seconds because she is just stunning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everytime I click on this page, I have to just stare at that photo for a couple of seconds because she is just stunning.</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, see now he&#039;s black because he was conspiring with Blago, Ferris Bueller, Louis Farrakhan and the Blues Brothers to sell his Senate Seat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, see now he&#39;s black because he was conspiring with Blago, Ferris Bueller, Louis Farrakhan and the Blues Brothers to sell his Senate Seat.</p>
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