Man after the election, one of the pundits said that the ones Obama has to watch out for are the members of his own party. I took it as just campaign rhetoric, but damned if they weren't right. God help me I think it was Pat Buchanan.
I don't think Etheridge is saying to get over the pick. I think she's suggesting an alternate form of direct action. Kumbaya moment, this isn't.
In an earlier post, I linked a Daily Kos article that also showed that Warren has taken down the gay-hating stuff off his church website. This, from a church that once said explicitly that gay parishioners weren't welcome.
Frank and Etheridge have a right to be angry. I have to add that this episode comes on the heels of the Prop 8 loss, so it feels like a double whammy of dismissal, especially with a PE whose campaign focused on inclusiveness.
There is always going to be one category of gay people who want to be married; there is always going to be another category of gay people who are going to eff around. Just like straights.
This ain't over yet, of course.
whiterosebuddy
Blk sista, The church did not say explicity they did not want gay parishoners EVER. They are welcome to worship as prarishoners. What they explicitly said was that homosexuals could not be members because they did not want to follow the Christian tenets and repent.
No homosexual who is unwillling to follow Christian tenets should be upset about that. In fact, the question should be why would they want to be a member of a christian community that they refuse to follow the tenets of.
Gay hypocrisy is just riDICUlous.
Why not rejoice in knowing that the church respects their choice and does so by saying continue to live in sin, which means you have no need of membership in a christian community.
Instead of acting like the church rejected them when the truth is they reject the tenets of the Christian church to repent their sins.
Justice58
No homosexual who is unwillling to follow Christian tenets should be upset about that. In fact, the question should be why would they want to be a member of a christian community that they refuse to follow the tenets of.
Exactly. I think they're fishing for fault so there can be an excuse to gripe!
They are discriminating against them because gays want to be who they are. And it centers on a sexual act or preference.
Imagine if you didn't have the right to love who you wanted in order to stay in a church or religious organization.
One of the tenets of The Salvation Army is that their officers have to marry other officers. Anyone who doesn't has to leave The Army.
This happened just recently. The poor guy, who had been in the group his entire life, was devastated to have to resign, but he loved this woman who was Christian, but not an Army officer.
I feel sorry for anyone--straight or gay--who decides to get into a church with either of you paragons.
whiterosebuddy
Blk sista you take the most basic and simple sentence and twist it into a convoluted nonsensical statement so fast it will make your head spin trying to make sense of it. For instance:
"They are discriminating against them because gays want to be who they are."
NO. Being homosexual means same gender sex. Sex is not who anyone IS. Sex is what individuals DO.
Every single thing the christian faith 'discriminates' against is a conduct/ behavior. Got that? All human beings who engage in behaviors that are not upheld by the christian faith are 'discriminated' against for what they DO. NOT who they ARE. Whether you black green orange, gay, straight or BI, it is your CONDUCT and ACTIONS that are designated as SINS.
Not the individual. Which is why the Christian tenets stress. Love the sinner, hate the sin.
geeez
Every single commandment is about an ACTION a specific CONDUCT that is prohibited under the Christian faith and deemed a sin. Stealing, adultery, murder, etc these are all CONDUCT/behaviors
There are consequences for sinful BEHAVIOR. Which is why the individual needs to repent and cease sinning or engaging in behaviors & ways that are sinful.
Being gay is about what you do it is not who the individual is. Cause we all know folks stop being hetero and become gay right? Then there are the gays who quit being gay and become hetero, usually they just make it to bi though right?
Now NONE of those changes could occur if being gay was who you are and not what you DO.
Justice58
They are discriminating against them because gays want to be who they are. And it centers on a sexual act or preference.
Sex between the same gender is an abomination before God. It's not the person...It's the act that is detestable!
When she couldn't be bothered to give Jennifer Hudson condolences over the death of her loved ones, that was the nail in the coffin for me as far as this over-hyped, bleached blonde weave-wearing, no-talent heifer was concerned.
If Jennifer Hudson's part of the Inaugural festivities - THAT'S why she's pushing for it.
She needs to go home and give Jigga a couple of Joe Camel-looking rug rats and STHU.
islandgirl550
Wow! You wen't the Joe Camel route. ROFLMAO!
rikyrah
That was the end for me too, CPL.
Her family, including a baby (that child was only 7) were MURDERED IN COLD BLOOD.
There are a few more sistas in Hollywood, but they are ALL BETTER ACTRESSES THAN BEYONCE KNOWLES.
And the best she can do is mess up Etta James' signature song in the latest Captain Save-A-Negro flick that neither Ebert or Roper bothered to go watch to even give it "two thumbs down".
Don't you know she's the GREATEST.ENTERTAINER.THERE.EVER.WAS.
parker404ga
She's a little like Hillary in that way. It's not about you, Beyonce!.
Miranda
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!
oh oh.....better pray for the lil puppy Malia and Sascha get.
soulsistah02
Amen to that! Now that you have spoken the Gospel, can we get someone to pass around a collection plate?
All joking aside, the inauguration program will include none other than the original Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. I think it would be in poor taste to have someone who wears leotards and platform stilettos, slapping their rear end on a music video urging "single ladies" to demand that their men "put a ring on it."
I hope Miss Beyonce tones her look down. I'm really not interested in crazy, long, ass, blonde lace front wigs and a Tacky Tina original outfit. Please, please, PLEASE, Beyonce have a little class.
Oh and one more thing B, please don't wear those ugly ass Balenciaga boots you love so much. Tone it down. This is an inauguration not the Grammys.
She's not going cause she didn't get an invite. She'd have to bring Jigga with her to the festivities, and they don't need Joe Camel in the mix. LOL
And she shouldn't want to show her face, considering Tina outdanced her ass...and Tina's almost seventy, still shaking what the Good Lord gave her. ROFL
NMP
Oh no! I'm sure she didn't need more evidence that Rihanna has over taken her as the "it" girl, but Rihanna got the gig at the official recording industry inauguration.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: This comes under the heading - -"It's a woman's (well - GIRL'S) prerogative to CHANGE her mind (annnnnd her SUNGLASSES)": :>) :>)
When 7-year-old Sasha Obama boarded a flight to Hawaii on Saturday, she and her sister Malia were bundled up against the Chicago cold. But when they touched down in Honolulu, Sasha stepped off the plane a new woman. Wearing a peace symbol t-shirt and pink tinted sunglasses, her look said definitively "I am on vacation."
**See the slideshow of Sasha Obama's sassiest moments on the campaign trail.**
**See a slideshow of the Obamas in Hawaii**
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When 7-year-old Sasha Obama boarded a flight to Hawaii on Saturday, she and her sister Malia were bundled up against the Chicago cold. But when they touched down in Honolulu, Sasha stepped off the plane a new woman. Wearing a peace symbol t-shirt and pink tinted sunglasses, her look said definitively "I am on vacation."
**See the slideshow of Sasha Obama's sassiest moments on the campaign trail.**
**See a slideshow of the Obamas in Hawaii**
PHOTOS: BEFORE 2008-12-22-0obamas.jpg
AFTER 2008-12-22-0obamas2.jpg
"'cause SHE can do whateva SHE likes!" :>) :>)
ENJOY!! :>) :>)
whiterosebuddy
Cause that girl can have what she want, go in any store for any bag she want. She want it Daddy got it Go get it he'll buy it and tell them other broke
I already said Obama better get some NOI brothas security clearances, because most SS would have been fired for this type of performance in protecting the POTUS...and that has been the reason why no POTUS since Jack Kennedy has caught a bullet; although Reagan came close, but lived to forget about it (alzheimer's and all that).
NMP
Hell no! After lusting after PEO, I started to wonder where the hell was the Secret Service? That hidden camera could have easily been a rifle. Within a week, there has been lax response from the Secret Service, first with Bush in Iraq and now this.
rikyrah
I hear ya, Iceberg. But, the beach is public. Maybe they should insist on the PE getting a completely private residence next time.
and no beach in hawaii is private, I believe. and this residence is private.
secondly, with all the death threats O has received, that camera could have been something else. maybe the ss need to tell the family to stay in the pool area of their rented home. but hey, this was the ss call, i do think they investigate all places of vacation before the family leaves on one. this is what happens when you become POTUS, all your privacy is taken away and security will become part of your life.
they need to get a security private beach house with the private beaches attached on the big Island of Hawaii, or some other island in Hawaii, because Oahu is tourist area and hardly anything's private - not even McGarrett's old offices in the Iolani Palace.
I like the idea of this. My favorite quote from the article:
"The cowboy images of President Bush, chopping wood and wearing sturdy work gloves in Crawford, have already been replaced by images of a presidential surfer dude. Obama, pictured shirtless and stepping out of the ocean, looks more like Daniel Craig in a Bond poster than John Wayne."
After seeing those pics today, they want to mention Daniel Craig? Move over GLH I need the air conditioner.
Answer, yes I would, if I was able to go. My kid is only 2 years old, will be 3 in February, but I think the moment would be too important w/out her. Even with the crowds.
You know Spam is a big delicacy over in the islands. No grocery store worth their salt was without it.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: Is THAT what my mom was sayin'??
Funniest thing! Errytime I usta axe what THAT MEAT was she ALWAYS said - -- - - - - - "Just be quiet annnnnnd eat your {sneezes} -'AM!! ***quizzical look***
So I always wondered "WHYCOME" she SNEEZED B4 she told me what it was! I thought she was sayin' HAM! :>) ***shrug*** ***shakin' my head****
carolinagirl
We used to eat fried spam and a fried egg w/ melted cheese slice on toast or a toasted bagel. It was yummy. Spam straight from the can is just nasty, even though it's already cooked, that's still nasty.
spirit_55z
rikyrah, we used eat Spam straight out of the can during tobacco stripping season.
Take the key off the top-o-the can and open it, fork it out and down the gullet t went. ooh yummy! We used to eat a shyt load of scapple too.
Here's a little history: Austin, Minnesota is Spam Capital of the World
SPAM Museum Austin, Minnesota
Scrapple and Treet have devoted fans. Deviled ham and Salisbury steak are lunchroom staples. But SPAM is the undisputed king of mystery meat. Made of pig parts and secret spices, cooked in its own cans right on the assembly line, SPAM rolls out of its far-flung factories at a rate of 44,000 cans an hour.
We know that because we learned it at the SPAM Museum.
Hormel, which makes SPAM (and 3,000 other food-like products) is headquartered in Austin. In 1991 it opened a small storefront company museum in a local mall. But its visitors mostly cared about SPAM. The company quickly rechristened it the SPAM Museum, but the public wanted more. So in 2002 Hormel opened an expansive new SPAM-centric museum in its own custom building, right across the street from the meat plant. If you want to fully savor American cuisine, you should visit the New World of Coca-Cola, the McDonald's Museum, and here
When I was stationed in Hawai'i that was sold at all the local haunts, not the places that tourists go to.
Kat
I haven't seen it. I'm guessing the Spam is not cooked? I'll cop to liking fried Spam when I'm in the mood for total trash food, but not cooked? Too blech,even for me.
And she took a page out of Demi's book her new man is twenty years younger than her!!
Guess Mike was like AIR in the sheets, too, eh?
spirit_55z
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