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	<title>Comments on: Blago Selecting Roland Burris to fill Obama&#8217;s Senate Seat?</title>
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		<title>By: Against Race Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Race Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Burris is using Blago...........</description>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to co-sign with you, CPL.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From my vantage point, the circumstances of Mr. Burris&#039; appointment appear designed to serve very narrow PERSONAL interests, namely Blagos.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand the objective to keep an AA in the Senate (which I fully support ), but there&#039;s other stuff in play here that I&#039;m not feeling.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blago definitely is, as my grandmother used to say, &quot;as slick as a &lt;br&gt;goddamn eel.&quot;  I&#039;ll concede that much!  But he&#039;s also reckless, and for that reason alone, I wouldn&#039;t mess with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to co-sign with you, CPL.  </p>
<p>From my vantage point, the circumstances of Mr. Burris&#39; appointment appear designed to serve very narrow PERSONAL interests, namely Blagos.  </p>
<p>I understand the objective to keep an AA in the Senate (which I fully support ), but there&#39;s other stuff in play here that I&#39;m not feeling.  </p>
<p>Blago definitely is, as my grandmother used to say, &#8220;as slick as a <br />goddamn eel.&#8221;  I&#39;ll concede that much!  But he&#39;s also reckless, and for that reason alone, I wouldn&#39;t mess with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Against Race Politics</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Race Politics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 13:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Burris is using Blago...........</description>
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		<title>By: Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 11:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to co-sign with you, CPL.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From my vantage point, the circumstances of Mr. Burris&#039; appointment appear designed to serve very narrow PERSONAL interests, namely Blagos.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I understand the objective to keep an AA in the Senate (which I fully support ), but there&#039;s other stuff in play here that I&#039;m not feeling.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blago definitely is, as my grandmother used to say, &quot;as slick as a &lt;br&gt;goddamn eel.&quot;  I&#039;ll concede that much!  But he&#039;s also reckless, and for that reason alone, I wouldn&#039;t mess with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to co-sign with you, CPL.  </p>
<p>From my vantage point, the circumstances of Mr. Burris&#39; appointment appear designed to serve very narrow PERSONAL interests, namely Blagos.  </p>
<p>I understand the objective to keep an AA in the Senate (which I fully support ), but there&#39;s other stuff in play here that I&#39;m not feeling.  </p>
<p>Blago definitely is, as my grandmother used to say, &#8220;as slick as a <br />goddamn eel.&#8221;  I&#39;ll concede that much!  But he&#39;s also reckless, and for that reason alone, I wouldn&#39;t mess with him.</p>
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		<title>By: AM2k6</title>
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		<dc:creator>AM2k6</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In all seriousness, you&#039;ve gotta give it Blago! This was one shrewd move! He basically told everybody: Go F yourselves! I like that....I am starting to like this who Chi-Town politics stuff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In all seriousness, you&#39;ve gotta give it Blago! This was one shrewd move! He basically told everybody: Go F yourselves! I like that&#8230;.I am starting to like this who Chi-Town politics stuff</p>
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		<title>By: Lama Rangdrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lama Rangdrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>enter Oprama...http://www.lamasletterstoamerica.blogspot.com/2008/12/dear-opramists.html</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 03:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) Doesn&#039;t matter &quot;if/when in the future&quot; Blago is indicted, he has not been indicted as of Dec. 30, 2008 which is when he made a legal appointment to the US Senate.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) But the court didn&#039;t say he was UNFIT, and the IL Legislature has not made any swift moves to impeach Blago. They&#039;ve whined about it but they&#039;ve not done anything about it.  As of TODAY, Dec. 31, 2008 Blago has NOT been indicted, has NOT been charged, has NOT been convicted, has NOT been impeached, censured, stripped, etc. and thus has the legal right to appoint someone to the US Senate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Furthermore, the person in question has NOT been charged, has NOT been indicted, has NOT been accused meets all of the qualifications for being a Senator and was appointed to the US Senate in a legal manner.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) The Democrats are known for sticking their finger up in the wind and seeing which way the wind blows before they take action.  Already just from looking at various blogs, it seems that more people actually FROM IL have less of a problem with the Burris appointment than people outside of IL.  So if IL people are like &quot;Well Blago&#039;s a crook but Burris is alright, give him a shot&quot; the Senate is REALLY going to overturn the will of the people of IL?  REALLY?  The Senate caves in and flip flops on everything else (FISA, Bush, War, Lieberman, etc) but chooses THIS issue to GET STRONG?  REALLY?  The Senate cheers Ted Stevens and Larry Craig but decides if they HAVE to let Burris in they will shun him?  REALLY?  Lieberman runs around the country talking bad about Obama &amp; the Democrats to the point of shuffle dancing at the Republican Convention and they&#039;ll let him caucus with them but they won&#039;t let Burris caucus with them if they &quot;hafta&quot; let him in?  REALLY?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No, what&#039;s REALLY gonna happen is Reid &amp; Co. will flap their lips and shake their sticks but in the end Burris will end up getting sworn in and serving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) Doesn&#39;t matter &#8220;if/when in the future&#8221; Blago is indicted, he has not been indicted as of Dec. 30, 2008 which is when he made a legal appointment to the US Senate.  </p>
<p>2) But the court didn&#39;t say he was UNFIT, and the IL Legislature has not made any swift moves to impeach Blago. They&#39;ve whined about it but they&#39;ve not done anything about it.  As of TODAY, Dec. 31, 2008 Blago has NOT been indicted, has NOT been charged, has NOT been convicted, has NOT been impeached, censured, stripped, etc. and thus has the legal right to appoint someone to the US Senate.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the person in question has NOT been charged, has NOT been indicted, has NOT been accused meets all of the qualifications for being a Senator and was appointed to the US Senate in a legal manner.</p>
<p>3) The Democrats are known for sticking their finger up in the wind and seeing which way the wind blows before they take action.  Already just from looking at various blogs, it seems that more people actually FROM IL have less of a problem with the Burris appointment than people outside of IL.  So if IL people are like &#8220;Well Blago&#39;s a crook but Burris is alright, give him a shot&#8221; the Senate is REALLY going to overturn the will of the people of IL?  REALLY?  The Senate caves in and flip flops on everything else (FISA, Bush, War, Lieberman, etc) but chooses THIS issue to GET STRONG?  REALLY?  The Senate cheers Ted Stevens and Larry Craig but decides if they HAVE to let Burris in they will shun him?  REALLY?  Lieberman runs around the country talking bad about Obama &#038; the Democrats to the point of shuffle dancing at the Republican Convention and they&#39;ll let him caucus with them but they won&#39;t let Burris caucus with them if they &#8220;hafta&#8221; let him in?  REALLY?</p>
<p>No, what&#39;s REALLY gonna happen is Reid &#038; Co. will flap their lips and shake their sticks but in the end Burris will end up getting sworn in and serving.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:55:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah. Blago stepped in it &amp; stirred it up! It&#039;s hair pulling shyt!</description>
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		<title>By: Muzikal203</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muzikal203</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1) All I said was he was out on bail. That was the point of my response. The indictment itself will probably be official next week, and if it comes before they confirm Burris, well things will get really interesting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) Really? Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn&#039;t Sometimes things are just too political, and the Courts choose to stay out of them, which may be the case here. They didn&#039;t say that he was FIT, they decided not to even hear the case which really suggests they didn&#039;t want to get involved. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) On Nov. 5th, he was still trying to cut deals, he may not have started doing that until Nov. 5th, we don&#039;t know the details. Also, it&#039;s one thing for the PEOPLE to challenge, but I think it&#039;s a completely different animal for the Senate to actually refuse to seat someone. Also, you have the fact that Blago is also facing impeachment hearings, so if Burris isn&#039;t seated by the time he&#039;s impeached and kicked out of office, they will have a strong argument that the appointment is unconstitutional, so the tactic for now seems to be &quot;stall.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There are a lot of different things going on right now, all of which affect the situation differently. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I don&#039;t think Obama would have signed on with the Dems if he thought they had no chance in hell of at the very least delaying the seating until the Blago mess is sorted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1) All I said was he was out on bail. That was the point of my response. The indictment itself will probably be official next week, and if it comes before they confirm Burris, well things will get really interesting.</p>
<p>2) Really? Maybe they would, maybe they wouldn&#39;t Sometimes things are just too political, and the Courts choose to stay out of them, which may be the case here. They didn&#39;t say that he was FIT, they decided not to even hear the case which really suggests they didn&#39;t want to get involved. </p>
<p>3) On Nov. 5th, he was still trying to cut deals, he may not have started doing that until Nov. 5th, we don&#39;t know the details. Also, it&#39;s one thing for the PEOPLE to challenge, but I think it&#39;s a completely different animal for the Senate to actually refuse to seat someone. Also, you have the fact that Blago is also facing impeachment hearings, so if Burris isn&#39;t seated by the time he&#39;s impeached and kicked out of office, they will have a strong argument that the appointment is unconstitutional, so the tactic for now seems to be &#8220;stall.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are a lot of different things going on right now, all of which affect the situation differently. It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I don&#39;t think Obama would have signed on with the Dems if he thought they had no chance in hell of at the very least delaying the seating until the Blago mess is sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1)  Don&#039;t matter whether he&#039;s out on bail or not, he hasn&#039;t been charged or indicted, only named in a criminal complaint.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2) If the IL Supreme Court thought Blago was unfit, they would have ruled that way. They didn&#039;t, therefore it&#039;s his perogative [/bobby brown] to name anyone he wants to the Senate seat as it is his responsibility to do as governor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3) They really don&#039;t have much standing to deny Burris, who has not been charged, accused or indicted of anything.  What&#039;s the difference between Blago appointing somebody on Nov. 5th vs today?  Wasn&#039;t he crooked back on Nov. 5th?  Wasn&#039;t he being &quot;watched&quot; by the Feds prior to Obama&#039;s election?  If people can still have lawsuits trying to block Obama from being POTUS on the basis that his daddy was a British subject, therefore Obama is not an American citizen and have that be brought before the SCOTUS, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the DE and NY Senate appointments could be challenged as well --- since none of those seats would have been &quot;elected by the people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1)  Don&#39;t matter whether he&#39;s out on bail or not, he hasn&#39;t been charged or indicted, only named in a criminal complaint.</p>
<p>2) If the IL Supreme Court thought Blago was unfit, they would have ruled that way. They didn&#39;t, therefore it&#39;s his perogative [/bobby brown] to name anyone he wants to the Senate seat as it is his responsibility to do as governor.</p>
<p>3) They really don&#39;t have much standing to deny Burris, who has not been charged, accused or indicted of anything.  What&#39;s the difference between Blago appointing somebody on Nov. 5th vs today?  Wasn&#39;t he crooked back on Nov. 5th?  Wasn&#39;t he being &#8220;watched&#8221; by the Feds prior to Obama&#39;s election?  If people can still have lawsuits trying to block Obama from being POTUS on the basis that his daddy was a British subject, therefore Obama is not an American citizen and have that be brought before the SCOTUS, it is not out of the realm of possibility that the DE and NY Senate appointments could be challenged as well &#8212; since none of those seats would have been &#8220;elected by the people.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Annnnnnnd, Mr. 538 &quot;chimes in&quot;:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/reid-has-few-ways-to-block-burris.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Reid Has Few Ways to Block Burris Appointment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;I&#039;m going to be repeating myself here, but as the reporting on this story has been poor (save for the Huffington Post and a couple of other outlets), it appears to be necessary.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The notion that the Democrats can refuse to seat Roland Burris out of hand is, at best, constitutionally dodgy. This is because of the Supreme Court&#039;s 1967 Powell v McCormack decision, in which it ruled that the Congress&#039;s power to judge the qualifications of its members is expressly limited to the conditions mentioned in the Constitution (e.g. age, residency, and U.S. Citizenship). If the Congress wants to deny membership for any other reason, it has another power, which is expulsion. Although the power of expulsion is much broader than the power of exclusion, it comes with a higher price tag: two-thirds of the Senate must vote to expel one of its members rather than a simple majority.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Given this, Reid and the Democrats have essentially three strategies they could pursue if and when Burris&#039;s name comes before the Senate Chamber:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Attempt to exclude Burris by majority vote, almost certainly inviting a court challenge.&lt;br&gt;2) Attempt to expel Burris after seating him.&lt;br&gt;3) Bluff at either of the above, but with the ultimate expectation that Burris will be seated.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;1) Attempt to exclude Burris by majority vote, almost certainly inviting a court challenge.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reid&#039;s language about refusing to seat Burris seems to be an invocation of Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution, which holds that &quot;Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members.&quot; In the case of Burris, however, there was no election in play (rather, he was appointed), so there are no questions about elections or returns - and McCormack holds that the Congress&#039;s ability to judge the qualifications of its members is limited to circumstances that don&#039;t pertain in the case of Burris.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Still, the Senate could hold a vote and decline to seat Burris, and take their chances in court. Then, Burris (or Blagojevich?) would sue, probably also seeking an injunction that required the Senate to seat Burris until a ruling by th court.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Reid would seem to be a longshot to win such a lawsuit, since McCormack speaks fairly explicitly to the issue at hand, but it&#039;s possible that he could find some sort of clever argument or that the Court would refuse to take the case -- it&#039;s a different court than it was in 1967. Or Burris, embarrassed by the whole thing, could stand down, although that seems unlikely since Burris has lost more elections than Lyndon LaRouche and doesn&#039;t seem the type to be easily deterred.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More likely, though, this would succeed only in delaying the inevitable for several weeks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;2) Attempt to expel Burris after seating him.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Here, the Senate would be on much firmer Constitutional ground. But the power of expulsion has been used very judiciously -- no Senator has been expelled since the Civil War, although several (such as Bob Packwood) have resigned in the face of possible expulsion. And Burris himself has not been accused of any misconduct; the Senate has never before attempted to expel a member under such circumstances. Achieving a two-thirds majority, therefore, might not be easy. There is also a decent chance that an expulsion could trigger a court challenge, although the courts have interpreted the Senate&#039;s powers of expulsion to be very broad.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;3) Bluff at either of the above, but with the ultimate expectation that Burris will be seated.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The difference here is that Reid would make a show of trying to exclude Burris for the cameras, but would not really try and whip votes. Perhaps the Senate Democrats could thereafter vote to exclude Burris from their caucus, something they have complete discretion over, but which wouldn&#039;t have much impact with the Democrats firmly in control of the floor.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;*-*&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Of these choices, it seems like the first is probably the Democrats&#039; best bet. This way, Reid and the Senate Democrats won&#039;t appear to have broken their promise to exclude Burris; instead they&#039;ll claim that their hands have been tied by the courts. But, they&#039;ll still get their 58th (or 59th) Democratic senator.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-- Nate Silver at 6:15 PM &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just droppin&#039; THIS OFF!     :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah:  Annnnnnnd, Mr. 538 &#8220;chimes in&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/12/reid-has-few-ways-to-block-burris.html" rel="nofollow">Reid Has Few Ways to Block Burris Appointment</a></p>
<p><i>I&#39;m going to be repeating myself here, but as the reporting on this story has been poor (save for the Huffington Post and a couple of other outlets), it appears to be necessary.</p>
<p>The notion that the Democrats can refuse to seat Roland Burris out of hand is, at best, constitutionally dodgy. This is because of the Supreme Court&#39;s 1967 Powell v McCormack decision, in which it ruled that the Congress&#39;s power to judge the qualifications of its members is expressly limited to the conditions mentioned in the Constitution (e.g. age, residency, and U.S. Citizenship). If the Congress wants to deny membership for any other reason, it has another power, which is expulsion. Although the power of expulsion is much broader than the power of exclusion, it comes with a higher price tag: two-thirds of the Senate must vote to expel one of its members rather than a simple majority.</p>
<p><b>Given this, Reid and the Democrats have essentially three strategies they could pursue if and when Burris&#39;s name comes before the Senate Chamber:</p>
<p>1) Attempt to exclude Burris by majority vote, almost certainly inviting a court challenge.<br />2) Attempt to expel Burris after seating him.<br />3) Bluff at either of the above, but with the ultimate expectation that Burris will be seated.</b></p>
<p><b>1) Attempt to exclude Burris by majority vote, almost certainly inviting a court challenge.</b></p>
<p>Reid&#39;s language about refusing to seat Burris seems to be an invocation of Article 1, Section 5 of the Constitution, which holds that &#8220;Each House shall be the judge of the elections, returns and qualifications of its own members.&#8221; In the case of Burris, however, there was no election in play (rather, he was appointed), so there are no questions about elections or returns &#8211; and McCormack holds that the Congress&#39;s ability to judge the qualifications of its members is limited to circumstances that don&#39;t pertain in the case of Burris.</p>
<p>Still, the Senate could hold a vote and decline to seat Burris, and take their chances in court. Then, Burris (or Blagojevich?) would sue, probably also seeking an injunction that required the Senate to seat Burris until a ruling by th court.</p>
<p>Reid would seem to be a longshot to win such a lawsuit, since McCormack speaks fairly explicitly to the issue at hand, but it&#39;s possible that he could find some sort of clever argument or that the Court would refuse to take the case &#8212; it&#39;s a different court than it was in 1967. Or Burris, embarrassed by the whole thing, could stand down, although that seems unlikely since Burris has lost more elections than Lyndon LaRouche and doesn&#39;t seem the type to be easily deterred.</p>
<p>More likely, though, this would succeed only in delaying the inevitable for several weeks.</p>
<p><b>2) Attempt to expel Burris after seating him.</b></p>
<p>Here, the Senate would be on much firmer Constitutional ground. But the power of expulsion has been used very judiciously &#8212; no Senator has been expelled since the Civil War, although several (such as Bob Packwood) have resigned in the face of possible expulsion. And Burris himself has not been accused of any misconduct; the Senate has never before attempted to expel a member under such circumstances. Achieving a two-thirds majority, therefore, might not be easy. There is also a decent chance that an expulsion could trigger a court challenge, although the courts have interpreted the Senate&#39;s powers of expulsion to be very broad.</p>
<p><b>3) Bluff at either of the above, but with the ultimate expectation that Burris will be seated.</b></p>
<p>The difference here is that Reid would make a show of trying to exclude Burris for the cameras, but would not really try and whip votes. Perhaps the Senate Democrats could thereafter vote to exclude Burris from their caucus, something they have complete discretion over, but which wouldn&#39;t have much impact with the Democrats firmly in control of the floor.</p>
<p>*-*</p>
<p><b>Of these choices, it seems like the first is probably the Democrats&#39; best bet. This way, Reid and the Senate Democrats won&#39;t appear to have broken their promise to exclude Burris; instead they&#39;ll claim that their hands have been tied by the courts. But, they&#39;ll still get their 58th (or 59th) Democratic senator.</b></p>
<p>&#8211; Nate Silver at 6:15 PM </i></p>
<p>Just droppin&#39; THIS OFF!     :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burris handed them their panties.  I like Burris.  He sounds like my kind of people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burris handed them their panties.  I like Burris.  He sounds like my kind of people.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah! Slick!</description>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Co sign rikyrah.</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  A WORD from Mr. Roland:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/12/making-sense-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Making sense of why Blago chose Burris&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;You gotta give Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich some credit, he sure knows how to make some news!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Three weeks after being arrested by federal officials for trying to sell the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama, Blagojevich has thumbed his nose at the political establishment by going forward and naming former state attorney general Roland Burris as his choice to fill the remaining two years of Obama&#039;s term.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Talk about chutzpah.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Members of the Illinois General Assembly have already said they will not seat the person Blagojevich chose, but he didn&#039;t care one lick. He now has put them in a position to deny an African American political legend in the state the senatorial position.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A number of African Americans in the state were making lots of noise that someone who looks like them should replace Obama. Now that he is gone, there are no African Americans serving in the U.S. Senate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blagojevich is now forcing the Illinois senate and the state&#039;s secretary of state to deny Burris the seat, thus taking the heat off of him and putting it on them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For instance, Secretary of State Jesse White has said he won&#039;t certify the selection of Burris. OK, fine. Does he have a legal leg to stand on? If he blocks Burris, he is risking a lawsuit that could get messy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;The Senate can say no to Burris, but then are putting themselves in a position of catching lots of heat from African Americans, who are a HUGE constituency in the state. If they say no to Burris and yes to a white candidate, you can bank on black folks being in an uproar.&lt;/b&gt;**&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blagojevich has made a shrewd move with the pick. Let&#039;s now see who will blink first.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;**He ain&#039;t neva lied!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah:  A WORD from Mr. Roland:</p>
<p><a href="http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/12/making-sense-of.html" rel="nofollow">Making sense of why Blago chose Burris</a></p>
<p><i>You gotta give Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich some credit, he sure knows how to make some news!</p>
<p>Three weeks after being arrested by federal officials for trying to sell the U.S. Senate seat vacated by President-elect Barack Obama, Blagojevich has thumbed his nose at the political establishment by going forward and naming former state attorney general Roland Burris as his choice to fill the remaining two years of Obama&#39;s term.</p>
<p>Talk about chutzpah.</p>
<p>Members of the Illinois General Assembly have already said they will not seat the person Blagojevich chose, but he didn&#39;t care one lick. He now has put them in a position to deny an African American political legend in the state the senatorial position.</p>
<p>A number of African Americans in the state were making lots of noise that someone who looks like them should replace Obama. Now that he is gone, there are no African Americans serving in the U.S. Senate.</p>
<p>Blagojevich is now forcing the Illinois senate and the state&#39;s secretary of state to deny Burris the seat, thus taking the heat off of him and putting it on them.</p>
<p>For instance, Secretary of State Jesse White has said he won&#39;t certify the selection of Burris. OK, fine. Does he have a legal leg to stand on? If he blocks Burris, he is risking a lawsuit that could get messy.</p>
<p><b>The Senate can say no to Burris, but then are putting themselves in a position of catching lots of heat from African Americans, who are a HUGE constituency in the state. If they say no to Burris and yes to a white candidate, you can bank on black folks being in an uproar.</b>**</p>
<p>Blagojevich has made a shrewd move with the pick. Let&#39;s now see who will blink first.</i></p>
<p>**He ain&#39;t neva lied!!</p>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama can forgive Lieberman for campaigning against him and have Rick Warren deliver the invocation at his inaugeration he can get over the Burris appointment.  If Obama can dish out a dissinge can take a dissing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama can forgive Lieberman for campaigning against him and have Rick Warren deliver the invocation at his inaugeration he can get over the Burris appointment.  If Obama can dish out a dissinge can take a dissing.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is good.</description>
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		<title>By: Booky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why in the world would the CBC help Reid block Burris?  The Senate sat on their hands and didn&#039;t block Bush in 2000.  If Bush wasn&#039;t blocked after 2000 and 2004 the Senate shouldn&#039;t be talking about blocking anybody and the CBC certainly shouldn&#039;t be helping them.  What goes around......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why in the world would the CBC help Reid block Burris?  The Senate sat on their hands and didn&#39;t block Bush in 2000.  If Bush wasn&#39;t blocked after 2000 and 2004 the Senate shouldn&#39;t be talking about blocking anybody and the CBC certainly shouldn&#39;t be helping them.  What goes around&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Justice58:    TRUE DAT!!!   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description>
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		<dc:creator>Justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 01:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Town can break it down!  He/she is just good at comedy.  It&#039;s a gift!</description>
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