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		<title>By: blackjack strategies </title>
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		<dc:creator>blackjack strategies </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 15:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</p>
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		<title>By: blackjack strategies </title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 10:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</p>
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		<title>By: blackjack strategies </title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think India government (especially, Sonia govt.) does not have the political or international power to deal with this scenario. India is a soft nation and so can be easily pushed around. Look at the terror attacks one after the another. The latest example is The latest example is Mumbai…:(</p>
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		<title>By: Beechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 23:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Precisely. Funny how the Georgian head of state is a US proxy, and US forces conducted training exercises with the Georgians 3 weeks earlier. Isn&#039;t there an oil pipeline running through there somewhere? The cold war never ended my friend...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Precisely. Funny how the Georgian head of state is a US proxy, and US forces conducted training exercises with the Georgians 3 weeks earlier. Isn&#39;t there an oil pipeline running through there somewhere? The cold war never ended my friend&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Beechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. No, I am educated enough to do simple math. You export 92% of the worlds arms and ammunition, illegal arms trading makes up 5% of your GNP. You have always armed AQ (to fight the french and russians, remember?) and after 9/11, arms sales surged - trading with anyone who would buy - including domestically (thanks to another propagated fear campaign, similar to the old &quot;reds under the beds&quot;) What is a sacrifice of 3000 taxpayers opening up a multi trillion dollar industry?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2.Have you ever read the UN&#039;s Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Your government signed it! And that declaration renders both Iraq and Afghanistan illegal wars. And yes, unfortunately the rock I crawled out from under (Australia) is part of the commonwealth, and the union jack has more blood on it than any other flag, hence my dissent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. I have indeed read the Koran, and you are quite right about &quot;..sects of Islam that will kill fellow believers for not being &quot;Islamic enough&quot;. But that, like Vietnam - Korea - Iraq - Pakistan (the list goes on) is not your war. You are simply creating another enemy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Strongest? Ahh, see that is your weakness. Arrogance. Your encroachment and Imperialism is driven by fear, and fear is not constructive or sustainable. It is reactionary. Do you really think that you&#039;ll wake up one morning to CNN reporting that all the terrorists are dead, and all resentment towards the US has dissolved? And all it would take to bring your nation down is for China to finally collect your debt owing. Yes, one day Nike shoes and dodgy electronics will have a little label, &#039;MADE IN U.S.A&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D,</p>
<p>1. No, I am educated enough to do simple math. You export 92% of the worlds arms and ammunition, illegal arms trading makes up 5% of your GNP. You have always armed AQ (to fight the french and russians, remember?) and after 9/11, arms sales surged &#8211; trading with anyone who would buy &#8211; including domestically (thanks to another propagated fear campaign, similar to the old &#8220;reds under the beds&#8221;) What is a sacrifice of 3000 taxpayers opening up a multi trillion dollar industry?</p>
<p>2.Have you ever read the UN&#39;s Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Your government signed it! And that declaration renders both Iraq and Afghanistan illegal wars. And yes, unfortunately the rock I crawled out from under (Australia) is part of the commonwealth, and the union jack has more blood on it than any other flag, hence my dissent.</p>
<p>3. I have indeed read the Koran, and you are quite right about &#8220;..sects of Islam that will kill fellow believers for not being &#8220;Islamic enough&#8221;. But that, like Vietnam &#8211; Korea &#8211; Iraq &#8211; Pakistan (the list goes on) is not your war. You are simply creating another enemy.</p>
<p>4. Strongest? Ahh, see that is your weakness. Arrogance. Your encroachment and Imperialism is driven by fear, and fear is not constructive or sustainable. It is reactionary. Do you really think that you&#39;ll wake up one morning to CNN reporting that all the terrorists are dead, and all resentment towards the US has dissolved? And all it would take to bring your nation down is for China to finally collect your debt owing. Yes, one day Nike shoes and dodgy electronics will have a little label, &#39;MADE IN U.S.A&#39;</p>
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		<title>By: Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, OH!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nothing of that!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This HAS nothing to do with WEST (Caucasian world?), until west started backing people in power in Egypt and Saudi.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Many people SAW this coming with the assassination of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Sadat&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Anwar El Sadat&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;there were intellectuals behind the failed coup, and many of them were hanged, so they went to pure terror tactics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the 90&#039;s these same MF******* were killing muslins at a rampant spasm, remember Algeria and Egypt?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But they failed in the end.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Now killing westerns, the source of MONEY is the best way to tore down the economy, and overthrow the government.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Attacking a BIG power like USA was their stupidest move and I believe it will never happen again.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And NO they care NOT about Obama (why they should)? They want an Islamic State the way they SEE fit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, OH!</p>
<p>Nothing of that!</p>
<p>This HAS nothing to do with WEST (Caucasian world?), until west started backing people in power in Egypt and Saudi.</p>
<p>Many people SAW this coming with the assassination of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_Sadat" rel="nofollow">Anwar El Sadat</a><br />there were intellectuals behind the failed coup, and many of them were hanged, so they went to pure terror tactics.</p>
<p>In the 90&#39;s these same MF******* were killing muslins at a rampant spasm, remember Algeria and Egypt?</p>
<p>But they failed in the end.</p>
<p><b>Now killing westerns, the source of MONEY is the best way to tore down the economy, and overthrow the government.</b></p>
<p>Attacking a BIG power like USA was their stupidest move and I believe it will never happen again.</p>
<p>And NO they care NOT about Obama (why they should)? They want an Islamic State the way they SEE fit.</p>
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		<title>By: PTCruiser</title>
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		<dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;George Orwell</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Political language is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>George Orwell</p>
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		<title>By: Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OH, NO!&lt;br&gt;Never heard of &lt;a href=&quot;http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/photo/38.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dr. Von Braun&lt;/a&gt;?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some people ARE more Criminal than others.&lt;br&gt;Worst, &lt;b&gt;if&lt;/b&gt; they are regarded as &lt;i&gt;worthless&lt;/i&gt; for the WEST interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OH, NO!<br />Never heard of <a href="http://history.msfc.nasa.gov/vonbraun/photo/38.html" rel="nofollow">Dr. Von Braun</a>?</p>
<p>Some people ARE more Criminal than others.<br />Worst, <b>if</b> they are regarded as <i>worthless</i> for the WEST interests.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By that logic, half the countries in the world are criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By that logic, half the countries in the world are criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/what-theyre-not-telling-you-about-the-mumbai-attacks/comment-page-1/#comment-106136</link>
		<dc:creator>Deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bullshit!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Iraq war as any other strategic war (Chile, Congo, Vietnam, South-Africa CIA backing, etc... ) ARE criminal acts!&lt;br&gt;Georgia attacked that separatist region while the WEST sit back watchin&#039;, then Russia responded and the FREE press screamed RAPPE!&lt;br&gt;???&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Iraq was invaded so for the WEST to put in power a Friendly ally in Iran (just wait), remember the Shah?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bush become a Criminal upon attacking Iraq, and legitimizing A.Q..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bullshit!</p>
<p>Iraq war as any other strategic war (Chile, Congo, Vietnam, South-Africa CIA backing, etc&#8230; ) ARE criminal acts!<br />Georgia attacked that separatist region while the WEST sit back watchin&#39;, then Russia responded and the FREE press screamed RAPPE!<br />???</p>
<p>Iraq was invaded so for the WEST to put in power a Friendly ally in Iran (just wait), remember the Shah?</p>
<p>Bush become a Criminal upon attacking Iraq, and legitimizing A.Q..</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 13:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, our current. pres.... I can&#039;t say it...... Bush is making the rounds on tv news and talk shows spinning his legacy before he leves the White House. He said he&#039;s offered U.S.A. if India asked for it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A team of agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is reported to be on way to India to help in the investigation of Mumbai terror attacks as President George Bush pledged India full support in its hour of crisis. The FBI, which is charged with tracking international and domestic terrorists to spies on US, has sent a team of about half a dozen investigators to India, the Washington Post said. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/30-Nov-2008/FBI-team-on-way-to-India-to-help-probe-Mumbai-terror-attacks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspape...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;                                          This s very revealing:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;When American casualties are personalized for the viewer by showing their faces on TV every 15 minutes, that narrative takes root. I&#039;m not suggesting American casualties shouldn&#039;t be personalized for the American viewer, but an American life is no more important, to me anyway, than an Indian life, or a Swiss life, or a Pakistani life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, our current. pres&#8230;. I can&#39;t say it&#8230;&#8230; Bush is making the rounds on tv news and talk shows spinning his legacy before he leves the White House. He said he&#39;s offered U.S.A. if India asked for it. </p>
<p>A team of agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is reported to be on way to India to help in the investigation of Mumbai terror attacks as President George Bush pledged India full support in its hour of crisis. The FBI, which is charged with tracking international and domestic terrorists to spies on US, has sent a team of about half a dozen investigators to India, the Washington Post said. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspaper-daily-english-online/International/30-Nov-2008/FBI-team-on-way-to-India-to-help-probe-Mumbai-terror-attacks" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspape.." rel="nofollow">http://www.nation.com.pk/pakistan-news-newspape..</a>.</p>
<p>                                          This s very revealing:</p>
<p>&#8220;When American casualties are personalized for the viewer by showing their faces on TV every 15 minutes, that narrative takes root. I&#39;m not suggesting American casualties shouldn&#39;t be personalized for the American viewer, but an American life is no more important, to me anyway, than an Indian life, or a Swiss life, or a Pakistani life.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Secure.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When the attacks were first reported and nobody knew what was really going on, I listened to several first-hand reports of Americans and Britons who were ushered to safety after revealing their passports to those who asked for them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Now, these same first-hand reports are never referred to. Why? Because it goes against the narrative that claims these &quot;terrorists&quot; were actually &lt;i&gt;targeting&lt;/i&gt; people from the west. When American casualties are personalized for the viewer by showing their faces on TV every 15 minutes, that narrative takes root. I&#039;m not suggesting American casualties shouldn&#039;t be personalized for the American viewer, but an American life is no more important, to me anyway, than an Indian life, or a Swiss life, or a Pakistani life.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Report the facts that you know, report the discrepancies when they appear, and leave the spin and speculation for another day. But that would be too much like right.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You see, as with all news stories, it is the &lt;i&gt;initial&lt;/i&gt; reports, before all the narratives take root, that provide the biggest clues to what actually happened.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If these terrorists were really targeting Americans, then why have so few been killed relative to the overall numbers of the reported casualties so far?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just watched &lt;i&gt;Charlie Wilson&#039;s War&lt;/i&gt; last night for the first time. Who&#039;s to say that this wasn&#039;t a covert operation by some big western intelligence agency  in tandem with foreign governments in order to set the stage for something bigger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Secure.</p>
<p>When the attacks were first reported and nobody knew what was really going on, I listened to several first-hand reports of Americans and Britons who were ushered to safety after revealing their passports to those who asked for them.</p>
<p>Now, these same first-hand reports are never referred to. Why? Because it goes against the narrative that claims these &#8220;terrorists&#8221; were actually <i>targeting</i> people from the west. When American casualties are personalized for the viewer by showing their faces on TV every 15 minutes, that narrative takes root. I&#39;m not suggesting American casualties shouldn&#39;t be personalized for the American viewer, but an American life is no more important, to me anyway, than an Indian life, or a Swiss life, or a Pakistani life.</p>
<p>Report the facts that you know, report the discrepancies when they appear, and leave the spin and speculation for another day. But that would be too much like right.</p>
<p>You see, as with all news stories, it is the <i>initial</i> reports, before all the narratives take root, that provide the biggest clues to what actually happened.</p>
<p>If these terrorists were really targeting Americans, then why have so few been killed relative to the overall numbers of the reported casualties so far?</p>
<p>I just watched <i>Charlie Wilson&#39;s War</i> last night for the first time. Who&#39;s to say that this wasn&#39;t a covert operation by some big western intelligence agency  in tandem with foreign governments in order to set the stage for something bigger?</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 12:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A scrupulous writer, in every sentence that he writes, will ask himself at least four questions, thus: What am I trying to say? What words will express it? What image or idiom will make it clearer? Is this image fresh enough to have an effect? And he will probably ask himself two more: Could I put it more shortly? Have I said anything that is avoidably ugly? But you are not obliged to go to all this trouble. You can shirk it by simply throwing your mind open and letting the ready-made phrases come crowding in. The will construct your sentences for you — even think your thoughts for you, to a certain extent — and at need they will perform the important service of partially concealing your meaning even from yourself. It is at this point that the special connection between politics and the debasement of language becomes clear.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enough said. Or in this case, written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A scrupulous writer, in every sentence that he writes, will ask himself at least four questions, thus: What am I trying to say? What words will express it? What image or idiom will make it clearer? Is this image fresh enough to have an effect? And he will probably ask himself two more: Could I put it more shortly? Have I said anything that is avoidably ugly? But you are not obliged to go to all this trouble. You can shirk it by simply throwing your mind open and letting the ready-made phrases come crowding in. The will construct your sentences for you — even think your thoughts for you, to a certain extent — and at need they will perform the important service of partially concealing your meaning even from yourself. It is at this point that the special connection between politics and the debasement of language becomes clear.</i></p>
<p>Enough said. Or in this case, written.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 11:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was gonna be a smart ass and &quot;welcome&quot; JJP to the War on Terror...til I saw this.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me explain a couple things to you (and I know no one else here will stand with me on this):&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1. Are you really dumb enough to  think that the United States recruited 19 terrorists from Saudi Arabia to kill close to 3,000 of our own citizens?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2. Neither Afghanistan or Iraq are &quot;illegal&quot; wars. You show me something that says that a war of retribution (which is what Afghanistan was, in part) or a war of preemption (which is what Iraq was, in part) are illegal, and I&#039;ll give you the names of no less than half a dozen countries that are guilty of the same (including, most likely, whatever rock you crawled out from under).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;3. Islamic extremism existed long before the United States was ever thought of (just like other forms of religious extremism). All you have to do is look at the sects of Islam that will kill fellow believers for not being &quot;Islamic enough.&quot; Read the Koran. Or, if that&#039;s too difficult for you, there&#039;s other books you can read (including some with pictures, so you can follow along).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4. Apparently, you don&#039;t know anything about America. We&#039;ve survived a economic downturn and an attack on our country before, and emerged as the strongest nation the world has ever seen.  We take our licks like every other country in the world...and we &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;ALWAYS&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt; emerge the stronger and better for them. It will take a lot more than your prayers to bring this nation down. Good luck trying though...let me know how that works out for you.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was gonna be a smart ass and &#8220;welcome&#8221; JJP to the War on Terror&#8230;til I saw this.</p>
<p>Let me explain a couple things to you (and I know no one else here will stand with me on this):</p>
<p>1. Are you really dumb enough to  think that the United States recruited 19 terrorists from Saudi Arabia to kill close to 3,000 of our own citizens?</p>
<p>2. Neither Afghanistan or Iraq are &#8220;illegal&#8221; wars. You show me something that says that a war of retribution (which is what Afghanistan was, in part) or a war of preemption (which is what Iraq was, in part) are illegal, and I&#39;ll give you the names of no less than half a dozen countries that are guilty of the same (including, most likely, whatever rock you crawled out from under).</p>
<p>3. Islamic extremism existed long before the United States was ever thought of (just like other forms of religious extremism). All you have to do is look at the sects of Islam that will kill fellow believers for not being &#8220;Islamic enough.&#8221; Read the Koran. Or, if that&#39;s too difficult for you, there&#39;s other books you can read (including some with pictures, so you can follow along).</p>
<p>4. Apparently, you don&#39;t know anything about America. We&#39;ve survived a economic downturn and an attack on our country before, and emerged as the strongest nation the world has ever seen.  We take our licks like every other country in the world&#8230;and we <i><b>ALWAYS</b></i> emerge the stronger and better for them. It will take a lot more than your prayers to bring this nation down. Good luck trying though&#8230;let me know how that works out for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Beechy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beechy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 08:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid americans. &quot;They;re coming after us..&quot;, &quot;Let&#039;s go get &#039;em&quot;.... what are you thinking? You&#039;re propagating your own fear of terrorism.. 9/11 was YOUR act, invading Iraq and Afghanistan was YOUR crime, and YOU spread terror by implementing policies which turns moderate muslims into extremist muslims. I pray every day that your economy dives (which it is), that you actually get attacked properly by terrorists (not some 9/11 pretext for war), then you will start to have some idea of what terror is. Die painfulkly and quietly - stupid Americans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid americans. &#8220;They;re coming after us..&#8221;, &#8220;Let&#39;s go get &#39;em&#8221;&#8230;. what are you thinking? You&#39;re propagating your own fear of terrorism.. 9/11 was YOUR act, invading Iraq and Afghanistan was YOUR crime, and YOU spread terror by implementing policies which turns moderate muslims into extremist muslims. I pray every day that your economy dives (which it is), that you actually get attacked properly by terrorists (not some 9/11 pretext for war), then you will start to have some idea of what terror is. Die painfulkly and quietly &#8211; stupid Americans.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 00:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Videos of the interview arry King and Deepak&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.truveo.com/Mumbai-attacks-Why-it-happened/id/3200444948&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.truveo.com/Mumbai-attacks-Why-it-hap...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.mindviz.com/blog.php?f=tipanna&amp;p=1381&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blog.mindviz.com/blog.php?f=tipanna&amp;p=1381&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/king.chopra.mumbai/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/kin...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Videos of the interview arry King and Deepak</p>
<p><a href="http://www.truveo.com/Mumbai-attacks-Why-it-happened/id/3200444948" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.truveo.com/Mumbai-attacks-Why-it-hap.." rel="nofollow">http://www.truveo.com/Mumbai-attacks-Why-it-hap..</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mindviz.com/blog.php?f=tipanna&#038;p=1381" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mindviz.com/blog.php?f=tipanna&#038;p=1381</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/king.chopra.mumbai/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/kin.." rel="nofollow">http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/26/kin..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blksista,  Jasse called me today and asked if I&#039;d seen Deepak Chopra on CNN.  She told me to check out the interview for more clarity on how she sees the Mumbai tragedy.The interview was telecast 11/2/08.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chopra on Mumbai: Too Controversial for CNN?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A CNN journalist interviewed Deepak Chopra last night about his take on the Mumbai attacks and how to prevent similar attacks in the future, but it looked like producers cut Chopra off when he started to get too controversial. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chopra: What we have seen in Mumbai has been brewing for a long time, and the war on terrorism and the attack on Iraq compounded the situation. What we call &quot;collateral damage&quot; and going after the wrong people actually turns moderates into extremists, and that inflammation then gets organized and appears as this disaster in Bombay. Now the worst thing that could happen is there&#039;s a backlash on the Muslims from the fundamental Hindus in India, which then will perpetuate the problem. Inflammation will create more inflammation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CNN: Let me jump in on that because you&#039;re presuming something very important, which is that it&#039;s Muslims who have carried out these attacks and, in some cases, with Washington in their sights. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chopra: Ultimately the message is always toward Washington because it&#039;s also the perception that Washington, in their way, directly or indirectly funds both sides of the war on terror. They fund our side, then our petrol dollars going to Saudi Arabia through Pakistan and ultimately these terrorist groups, which are very organized. You know Jonathan, it takes a lot of money to do this. It takes a lot of organization to do this. Where&#039;s the money coming from, you know? The money is coming from the vested interests. I&#039;m not talking about conspiracy theories, but what happens is, our policies, our foreign policies, actually perpetuate this problem. Because, you know, 25% of the world&#039;s population is Muslim and..... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-haimoff/deepak-chopra-on-mumbai-t_b_146837.htmlDeepak&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-haimoff/...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blksista,  Jasse called me today and asked if I&#39;d seen Deepak Chopra on CNN.  She told me to check out the interview for more clarity on how she sees the Mumbai tragedy.The interview was telecast 11/2/08.</p>
<p>Chopra on Mumbai: Too Controversial for CNN?</p>
<p>A CNN journalist interviewed Deepak Chopra last night about his take on the Mumbai attacks and how to prevent similar attacks in the future, but it looked like producers cut Chopra off when he started to get too controversial. </p>
<p>Chopra: What we have seen in Mumbai has been brewing for a long time, and the war on terrorism and the attack on Iraq compounded the situation. What we call &#8220;collateral damage&#8221; and going after the wrong people actually turns moderates into extremists, and that inflammation then gets organized and appears as this disaster in Bombay. Now the worst thing that could happen is there&#39;s a backlash on the Muslims from the fundamental Hindus in India, which then will perpetuate the problem. Inflammation will create more inflammation. </p>
<p>CNN: Let me jump in on that because you&#39;re presuming something very important, which is that it&#39;s Muslims who have carried out these attacks and, in some cases, with Washington in their sights. </p>
<p>Chopra: Ultimately the message is always toward Washington because it&#39;s also the perception that Washington, in their way, directly or indirectly funds both sides of the war on terror. They fund our side, then our petrol dollars going to Saudi Arabia through Pakistan and ultimately these terrorist groups, which are very organized. You know Jonathan, it takes a lot of money to do this. It takes a lot of organization to do this. Where&#39;s the money coming from, you know? The money is coming from the vested interests. I&#39;m not talking about conspiracy theories, but what happens is, our policies, our foreign policies, actually perpetuate this problem. Because, you know, 25% of the world&#39;s population is Muslim and&#8230;.. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-haimoff/deepak-chopra-on-mumbai-t_b_146837.htmlDeepak" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-haimoff/.." rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelle-haimoff/..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jill,&lt;br&gt;You say they are coming for us and you most likely are correct. I suspect that the Mumbai attack being in a public venue at a well know international hotel for conducting business with corporate types globally ....that this was the TRIAL run.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; For another major assault in an American city....possibly Miami. Given that Miami would provide the same mix of folks in terms of international visitiors along with Jewish folks in great numbers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let&#039;s recall before the Twin Towers were hit, Al-Q did a trial run with an international airline where they killed a Japanese businessman...I don&#039;t recall all the details, only that hijacking the plane was the major component of training that was described in Al-Q&#039;s hit of the Twin Towers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let;&#039;s also not forget that they tried to bomb the WTC in 93 right after Clinton took office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, doing trial runs is part of how Al-Q operates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It did not surprise me that the team was better prepared than local police, given assault would not be an area of expertise and a hotel would have to have it&#039;s own security force if they wanted men on hand who would know the layout of the hotel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What alarmed me most was the tid bit that the folks had likely been registered guests for days in the hotel, prior to the attack.  All of that says, we all will have to endure heighten security at hotels when we travel...just like the TSA at airports.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jill,<br />You say they are coming for us and you most likely are correct. I suspect that the Mumbai attack being in a public venue at a well know international hotel for conducting business with corporate types globally &#8230;.that this was the TRIAL run.</p>
<p> For another major assault in an American city&#8230;.possibly Miami. Given that Miami would provide the same mix of folks in terms of international visitiors along with Jewish folks in great numbers.</p>
<p>Let&#39;s recall before the Twin Towers were hit, Al-Q did a trial run with an international airline where they killed a Japanese businessman&#8230;I don&#39;t recall all the details, only that hijacking the plane was the major component of training that was described in Al-Q&#39;s hit of the Twin Towers.</p>
<p>Let;&#39;s also not forget that they tried to bomb the WTC in 93 right after Clinton took office.</p>
<p>So, doing trial runs is part of how Al-Q operates.</p>
<p>It did not surprise me that the team was better prepared than local police, given assault would not be an area of expertise and a hotel would have to have it&#39;s own security force if they wanted men on hand who would know the layout of the hotel.</p>
<p>What alarmed me most was the tid bit that the folks had likely been registered guests for days in the hotel, prior to the attack.  All of that says, we all will have to endure heighten security at hotels when we travel&#8230;just like the TSA at airports.</p>
<p>If</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us know more from what Jassie thinks in the coming days.  What you say is very interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us know more from what Jassie thinks in the coming days.  What you say is very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: blksista</title>
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		<dc:creator>blksista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This &quot;terrorist&quot; group went out of its way to secure the safety of Americans and Britons.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;Secure??&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a baby right now whose parents--dad a Brooklyn Lubavitcher Hasid rabbi--and siblings were murdered by these guys.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They&#039;re saying that the Indians are now beginning to come out of the shock of the last three days, and are getting pretty angry.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still think bin Laden is alive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This &#8220;terrorist&#8221; group went out of its way to secure the safety of Americans and Britons.</i></p>
<p><b>Secure??</b></p>
<p>There&#39;s a baby right now whose parents&#8211;dad a Brooklyn Lubavitcher Hasid rabbi&#8211;and siblings were murdered by these guys.</p>
<p>They&#39;re saying that the Indians are now beginning to come out of the shock of the last three days, and are getting pretty angry.</p>
<p>I still think bin Laden is alive.</p>
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