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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163781</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D:  Chin up!!!  Life is going on!!   Annnnnnnnnd HOW!!!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THANK YOU!!  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D:  Chin up!!!  Life is going on!!   Annnnnnnnnd HOW!!!   :&gt;)</p>
<p>THANK YOU!!  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163780</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suprk:  U   R     very kind!!  Yes, I slept peacefully because of this &quot;HISTORICAL MOMENT!!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hats off to y&#039;all/JJP!!   :&gt;)   God Bless ALL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suprk:  U   R     very kind!!  Yes, I slept peacefully because of this &#8220;HISTORICAL MOMENT!!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>Hats off to y&#39;all/JJP!!   :&gt;)   God Bless ALL!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163779</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>caludia_m:  Thank you!  I soooo much ENJOY being at JJP  - with y&#039;all!  :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163778</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nickwah22:  I did!!  :&gt;)   Annnnnd, I practice!!  Thank you!  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nickwah22:  I did!!  :&gt;)   Annnnnd, I practice!!  Thank you!  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163777</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MsKitty:  U   R   welcome!    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MsKitty:  U   R   welcome!    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-163776</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val:  Thank you!  :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rorysmomma:      Annnnd, I am humbled!   Thank you!  :&lt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rorysmomma:      Annnnd, I am humbled!   Thank you!  :&lt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 07:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Thank you.    :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-95486</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>D:  Chin up!!!  Life is going on!!   Annnnnnnnnd HOW!!!   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;THANK YOU!!  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D:  Chin up!!!  Life is going on!!   Annnnnnnnnd HOW!!!   :&gt;)</p>
<p>THANK YOU!!  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-95484</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suprk:  U   R     very kind!!  Yes, I slept peacefully because of this &quot;HISTORICAL MOMENT!!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hats off to &#039;y&#039;all/JJP!!   :&gt;)   God Bless ALL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suprk:  U   R     very kind!!  Yes, I slept peacefully because of this &#8220;HISTORICAL MOMENT!!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>Hats off to &#39;y&#39;all/JJP!!   :&gt;)   God Bless ALL!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>caludia_m:  Thank you!  I soooo much ENJOY being at JJP  - with y&#039;all!  :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nickwah22:  I did!!  :&gt;)   Annnnnd, I practice!!  Thank you!  :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-95479</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MsKitty:  U   R   welcome!    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MsKitty:  U   R   welcome!    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val:  Thank you!  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val:  Thank you!  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-95477</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rorysmomma:      Annnnd, I am humbled!   Thank you!  :&lt;)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/wednesday-open-thread-15/comment-page-3/#comment-95473</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah:  Thank you.    :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: iamnotstarjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>iamnotstarjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 19:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;-Tucker Carlson on Hillary Clinton.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009&quot;&gt;http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Methinks the prepster weasel protests too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I have often said, when she comes on television, I involuntarily cross my legs.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Tucker Carlson on Hillary Clinton.<br /><a href="http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009">http://mediamatters.org/items/200707180009</a></p>
<p>Methinks the prepster weasel protests too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Suprk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suprk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I last thought because and this is all Monday morning quarterbacking. I seriously believe this election would of been tighter if McCain would of ran more of the McCain in 2000 than he did here. In fact his final speech was more like he was then, than how he had campaign up to that point. The only flaw I see with that, is I do not think the McCain of 2000 would have any chance in the Republican primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I last thought because and this is all Monday morning quarterbacking. I seriously believe this election would of been tighter if McCain would of ran more of the McCain in 2000 than he did here. In fact his final speech was more like he was then, than how he had campaign up to that point. The only flaw I see with that, is I do not think the McCain of 2000 would have any chance in the Republican primary.</p>
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		<title>By: Nquest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nquest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, both Rhondacoca and I agreed with what he was saying and the fact that his statement, however problematic, was about issues and about &quot;real change&quot; vs. the symbolic... that&#039;s why what Tavis said matters.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t give a f-ck if everybody in the world but me sees that point.  The fact is:  folks criticizing Tavis for being petty are being petty in their reflexive criticisms of Tavis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All Black people don&#039;t think a like (we all know that) and we&#039;ve always had varying and often competing visions, even different goals.  If all folks care about is having a Black president then, in one sense, it&#039;s an insult to the lives, memory and legacy of our ancestors.  But maybe that&#039;s me...  because my Freedom Dreams are bigger.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I appreciate where we are and how big this is but this isn&#039;t the Promise Land many envisioned.  Maybe some, maybe even most did.  Maybe this is all some could ever conceive of.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To each his/her own...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, both Rhondacoca and I agreed with what he was saying and the fact that his statement, however problematic, was about issues and about &#8220;real change&#8221; vs. the symbolic&#8230; that&#39;s why what Tavis said matters.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t give a f-ck if everybody in the world but me sees that point.  The fact is:  folks criticizing Tavis for being petty are being petty in their reflexive criticisms of Tavis.</p>
<p>All Black people don&#39;t think a like (we all know that) and we&#39;ve always had varying and often competing visions, even different goals.  If all folks care about is having a Black president then, in one sense, it&#39;s an insult to the lives, memory and legacy of our ancestors.  But maybe that&#39;s me&#8230;  because my Freedom Dreams are bigger.</p>
<p>I appreciate where we are and how big this is but this isn&#39;t the Promise Land many envisioned.  Maybe some, maybe even most did.  Maybe this is all some could ever conceive of.</p>
<p>To each his/her own&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nquest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tavis really had an issue with sitting next to the Racial Arsonist in Chief (Pat Buchanan) and was just too down on the situation which made it look like it was both personal (ego-driven) and on the serious issue of real, substantive, structural change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tavis really had an issue with sitting next to the Racial Arsonist in Chief (Pat Buchanan) and was just too down on the situation which made it look like it was both personal (ego-driven) and on the serious issue of real, substantive, structural change.</p>
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