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		<title>By: CPL</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-159770</link>
		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because Biden is a camera hog, LOL.  Now that he&#039;s  VP, that clears the way for Russ to do his thang.</description>
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		<title>By: Quanli</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-159769</link>
		<dc:creator>Quanli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 04:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking exactly.</description>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like this: If your arse would&#039;ve been on the auction block back in the 1800s, then your arse is black. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s like this: If your arse would&#39;ve been on the auction block back in the 1800s, then your arse is black. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106315</link>
		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s because Biden is a camera hog, LOL.  Now that he&#039;s  VP, that clears the way for Russ to do his thang.</description>
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		<title>By: Quanli</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106314</link>
		<dc:creator>Quanli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 01:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fucking exactly.</description>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106273</link>
		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 22:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like this: If your arse would&#039;ve been on the auction block back in the 1800s, then your arse is black. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s like this: If your arse would&#39;ve been on the auction block back in the 1800s, then your arse is black. Period.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106252</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T:      &lt;i&gt;well-masticated. . .&lt;/i&gt;    MASTI-     What???   :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JUST KIDDING!  I  use this bit of &quot;humor&quot; when teaching my biology class!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;CONFIRMED:  Could it be that P-E Obama is doing a &quot;strategic move!?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He will make a RECOMMENDATION   -   &lt;b&gt;BUT&lt;/b&gt;  ALLOW the CONFIRMATION HEARING process   make the DENIAL!!     Hmmmmm?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President-Elect Obama!   :&gt;)    &lt;b&gt;LARGE and IN CHARGE!!&lt;/b&gt;   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T:      <i>well-masticated. . .</i>    MASTI-     What???   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>JUST KIDDING!  I  use this bit of &#8220;humor&#8221; when teaching my biology class!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>CONFIRMED:  Could it be that P-E Obama is doing a &#8220;strategic move!?&#8221;</p>
<p>He will make a RECOMMENDATION   &#8211;   <b>BUT</b>  ALLOW the CONFIRMATION HEARING process   make the DENIAL!!     Hmmmmm?</p>
<p>President-Elect Obama!   :&gt;)    <b>LARGE and IN CHARGE!!</b>   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106251</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EVENING THREAD IS UP</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106247</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>evita: H-E-R-E-&#039;S SOME!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;) &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Annnnnnd, some &quot;GREEN Tea!&quot;   :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LAWD HA&#039;NERCY!  Just cain&#039;t leave for ONE MINUTE!!  O.K.  8 9 HOURS!!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;SORRY!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   My BAD!!  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>evita: H-E-R-E-&#39;S SOME!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;) </p>
<p>Annnnnnd, some &#8220;GREEN Tea!&#8221;   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>LAWD HA&#39;NERCY!  Just cain&#39;t leave for ONE MINUTE!!  O.K.  8 9 HOURS!!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>SORRY!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   My BAD!!  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106246</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>spirit:  **s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g to share the &lt;b&gt;JJP &quot;POPCORN!&quot;&lt;/b&gt;   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Annnnnnnd being LATE in answering the REQUEST!!   :&gt;)    OOPS!   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>spirit:  **s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g to share the <b>JJP &#8220;POPCORN!&#8221;</b>   :&gt;)</p>
<p>Annnnnnnd being LATE in answering the REQUEST!!   :&gt;)    OOPS!   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Micheline </title>
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		<dc:creator>Micheline </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see what both sides are saying.  To me this discussion shows how race is a social construct.  Race means different things in different cultures.  I don&#039;t see anything wrong pointing out that he is bi-racial but one should not  be dismissive about people calling him the first black president because in the US  he is seen as such. To ignore this fact is to ignore American history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see what both sides are saying.  To me this discussion shows how race is a social construct.  Race means different things in different cultures.  I don&#39;t see anything wrong pointing out that he is bi-racial but one should not  be dismissive about people calling him the first black president because in the US  he is seen as such. To ignore this fact is to ignore American history.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106232</link>
		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly, T.  Check yourselves!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, T.  Check yourselves!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106231</link>
		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And folks we have a winner! This comment is spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And folks we have a winner! This comment is spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106230</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more commenter says this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Ms Arana reminds me of those white people during slavery who would dismiss any example of black achievement as being due to the individual&#039;s &quot;white blood&quot;. Why isn&#039;t she rushing to claim the biracial prisoners as part of her post-racial utopia?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And another thinks PE Obama is just a plain user for calling himself black. Ooooookay:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;Is that really why Obama chose to call himself black? Or did he see personal and political advantage to calling himself black? After all, Obama was raised in Hawaii where mixed race is hardly unusual. Perhaps he understood that qualified minority students are much sought after applicants in the scholarship pool. Perhaps he realized that his identification as &quot;black&quot; would also make him an attractive political figure on Chicago&#039;s South Side -- why else would he spend 20 years in a church whose pastor preached black liberation theology? No, Ms. Arana, if Obama chose to present himself as black, it&#039;s because he saw opportunity to capitalize on society&#039;s dated language and logic. The president elect is nothing if not calculated.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more commenter says this:</p>
<p>&#8220;Ms Arana reminds me of those white people during slavery who would dismiss any example of black achievement as being due to the individual&#39;s &#8220;white blood&#8221;. Why isn&#39;t she rushing to claim the biracial prisoners as part of her post-racial utopia?&#8221;</p>
<p>And another thinks PE Obama is just a plain user for calling himself black. Ooooookay:</p>
<p>&#8220;Is that really why Obama chose to call himself black? Or did he see personal and political advantage to calling himself black? After all, Obama was raised in Hawaii where mixed race is hardly unusual. Perhaps he understood that qualified minority students are much sought after applicants in the scholarship pool. Perhaps he realized that his identification as &#8220;black&#8221; would also make him an attractive political figure on Chicago&#39;s South Side &#8212; why else would he spend 20 years in a church whose pastor preached black liberation theology? No, Ms. Arana, if Obama chose to present himself as black, it&#39;s because he saw opportunity to capitalize on society&#39;s dated language and logic. The president elect is nothing if not calculated.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-28/comment-page-1/#comment-106226</link>
		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another commenter asks, are there any black people in the US?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;My question to the author is a very simple one. If Obama isn&#039;t black, are there any black people in the US? I ask this in view of the fact that a considerable majority of African Americans have &#039;white blood&#039; in them.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And another suggests that he might be neither black nor white, he is Asian. Got that?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I cannot but agree fully with Marie Arana. I will even go further and say that President elect Obama is also an Asian. He is also a Pacific Islander. So Why are we calling him black? His victory made me feel that there is some belonging or inclusivness. I like most others never felt this way in previous Presidential elections. Mr president Obama, Please do not call yourself Black. You are only half black. What about your Asian roots and Hawaian roots? Dont they count?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another commenter asks, are there any black people in the US?</p>
<p>&#8220;My question to the author is a very simple one. If Obama isn&#39;t black, are there any black people in the US? I ask this in view of the fact that a considerable majority of African Americans have &#39;white blood&#39; in them.&#8221;</p>
<p>And another suggests that he might be neither black nor white, he is Asian. Got that?</p>
<p>&#8220;I cannot but agree fully with Marie Arana. I will even go further and say that President elect Obama is also an Asian. He is also a Pacific Islander. So Why are we calling him black? His victory made me feel that there is some belonging or inclusivness. I like most others never felt this way in previous Presidential elections. Mr president Obama, Please do not call yourself Black. You are only half black. What about your Asian roots and Hawaian roots? Dont they count?&#8221;</p>
<p>T.</p>
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		<title>By: T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another perspective from a commenter on the original site:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;I do not question that obama is bi-racial. I do question why it is that people have the need to get in an uproar about him not being black. This does not seem to be a concern in general even though a large proportion of blacks in the U.S. are actually of mixed descent. Why is it that people need to point out the mixed heritage of &quot;this&quot; particularly man? It can appear to many that the only time a black persons mixed heritage is of importance in the U.S. is when that black persons rises to a certain level of success. However, there is no outcry about the average black person of mixed race being identified, or self-identifying as black. So yes, he is of mixed race even though he, like many others, self identifies as black. But the real question is: What are your motives for insisting on recognizing his mixed heritage?&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;T.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another perspective from a commenter on the original site:</p>
<p>&#8220;I do not question that obama is bi-racial. I do question why it is that people have the need to get in an uproar about him not being black. This does not seem to be a concern in general even though a large proportion of blacks in the U.S. are actually of mixed descent. Why is it that people need to point out the mixed heritage of &#8220;this&#8221; particularly man? It can appear to many that the only time a black persons mixed heritage is of importance in the U.S. is when that black persons rises to a certain level of success. However, there is no outcry about the average black person of mixed race being identified, or self-identifying as black. So yes, he is of mixed race even though he, like many others, self identifies as black. But the real question is: What are your motives for insisting on recognizing his mixed heritage?&#8221;</p>
<p>T.</p>
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		<title>By: Trumystique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trumystique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot Russ! Though he hasnt provided as many hours of glee as watching Biden. But yeah I guess he&#039;ll have to do</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot Russ! Though he hasnt provided as many hours of glee as watching Biden. But yeah I guess he&#39;ll have to do</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just the thought of having to negotiate wth these two makes my blood boil!  Jimmney cricket, it&#039;s not enough that Presidet-elect Obama&#039; gonna have to negotiate with rouges and terrorist. Oh, wait a minute; he&#039;s doing right now with these two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just the thought of having to negotiate wth these two makes my blood boil!  Jimmney cricket, it&#39;s not enough that Presidet-elect Obama&#39; gonna have to negotiate with rouges and terrorist. Oh, wait a minute; he&#39;s doing right now with these two!</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But he&#039;s not giving it up until AFTER she&#039;s nominated officially.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If I&#039;m Obama, I want the goods UP FRONT.  The Clintons are good at reneiging, that&#039;s why they have so many enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But he&#39;s not giving it up until AFTER she&#39;s nominated officially.</p>
<p>If I&#39;m Obama, I want the goods UP FRONT.  The Clintons are good at reneiging, that&#39;s why they have so many enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Then his announcement should be that he withdrew the offer of the post to Hillary because Bill wouldn&#039;t comply with providing that donor list to eliminate potential conflicts of interest for Hillary in doing the job of SoS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Looks like Billy Jeff is going to Eff-Up his wife&#039;s chances for advancement...AGAIN.  Just like he basically lost her the primary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then his announcement should be that he withdrew the offer of the post to Hillary because Bill wouldn&#39;t comply with providing that donor list to eliminate potential conflicts of interest for Hillary in doing the job of SoS.</p>
<p>Looks like Billy Jeff is going to Eff-Up his wife&#39;s chances for advancement&#8230;AGAIN.  Just like he basically lost her the primary.</p>
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