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		<title>By: nickwah22</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-25/comment-page-4/#comment-164963</link>
		<dc:creator>nickwah22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know, that&#039;s why i said its a job in itself.</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey nickwah22 - there is no such thing as &quot;only a homemaker&quot;.  Women that stay home, work at least 3 times harder than they would if they worked outside the home.  Just an fyi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey nickwah22 &#8211; there is no such thing as &#8220;only a homemaker&#8221;.  Women that stay home, work at least 3 times harder than they would if they worked outside the home.  Just an fyi.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/sunday-open-thread-25/comment-page-4/#comment-164959</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda - blog was complete bullshit. . . . but opinions are like assholes, everybody has one so . . .. I wouldn&#039; t sweat it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t take the reaction personal (i.e. Michelle&#039;s statements of being a mother first).  They don&#039;t know what to do or expect from our next first family so they are fishing.   Let them.  It is all good.  That just means they are paying attention.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding Dana Golstein catching fire - she may just get burned so again . . . I wouldn&#039;t sweat it.  Like it or not, we are all going to get another crash course/refresh on the importance of family values over the next few years from the Obamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda &#8211; blog was complete bullshit. . . . but opinions are like assholes, everybody has one so . . .. I wouldn&#39; t sweat it. </p>
<p>Don&#39;t take the reaction personal (i.e. Michelle&#39;s statements of being a mother first).  They don&#39;t know what to do or expect from our next first family so they are fishing.   Let them.  It is all good.  That just means they are paying attention.  </p>
<p>Regarding Dana Golstein catching fire &#8211; she may just get burned so again . . . I wouldn&#39;t sweat it.  Like it or not, we are all going to get another crash course/refresh on the importance of family values over the next few years from the Obamas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really learned a lot about &quot;feminism&quot; this election. One site I keep an eye on, is already pushing the black vote on  Prop  8. This is still all about Hillary and her looking just like them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, let them stew. Last I heard one slogan was 300 strong, that sounds about right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really learned a lot about &#8220;feminism&#8221; this election. One site I keep an eye on, is already pushing the black vote on  Prop  8. This is still all about Hillary and her looking just like them.</p>
<p>Well, let them stew. Last I heard one slogan was 300 strong, that sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: nickwah22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickwah22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the problem?  They can&#039;t have black folk in the White House that ain&#039;t pulling their weight.  Hell, if she continued on with the article should might have said the two girls need to cut the damn front lawn!  She is ignorant at best; where was her article when all of the other First Ladies were in the White House, with no children, just chillin&#039;?  Michelle Obama is a stand up woman, I doubt she will only be a homemaker, not that it isn&#039;t a job in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the problem?  They can&#39;t have black folk in the White House that ain&#39;t pulling their weight.  Hell, if she continued on with the article should might have said the two girls need to cut the damn front lawn!  She is ignorant at best; where was her article when all of the other First Ladies were in the White House, with no children, just chillin&#39;?  Michelle Obama is a stand up woman, I doubt she will only be a homemaker, not that it isn&#39;t a job in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whiterosbuddy, great eye. Thanks. :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whiterosbuddy, great eye. Thanks. :-))</p>
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		<title>By: SjP08</title>
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		<dc:creator>SjP08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 01:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG! Who told this chick that she could have an opinion about anything? Dana Goldstein probably thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be a heart beat from the Oval Office.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve been thinking about MLK, RFK, Moses and Joshua. I think &lt;a href=&quot;http://sojournersplace.blogspot.com/2008/11/sunday-inspirationthe-commissioning-of.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a New &quot;Joshua&quot; has just been commissioned.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG! Who told this chick that she could have an opinion about anything? Dana Goldstein probably thought Sarah Palin was qualified to be a heart beat from the Oval Office.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve been thinking about MLK, RFK, Moses and Joshua. I think <a href="http://sojournersplace.blogspot.com/2008/11/sunday-inspirationthe-commissioning-of.html" rel="nofollow">a New &#8220;Joshua&#8221; has just been commissioned.</a></p>
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		<title>By: goldenstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>goldenstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark my words: Rahm WILL train them and he is not the Dog Whisperer. What&#039;s ironic is that Rahm and George both served in the Clinton White House. They seem polar opposites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark my words: Rahm WILL train them and he is not the Dog Whisperer. What&#39;s ironic is that Rahm and George both served in the Clinton White House. They seem polar opposites.</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral_Komack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am curious to see what cause (or causes) First Lady-Elect, Michelle Obama would champion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That being said, I thought Dana Goldstein&#039;s article sucked.&lt;br&gt;If the First Lady-Elect puts her children first and wants to put her children first, what&#039;s the problem?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am curious to see what cause (or causes) First Lady-Elect, Michelle Obama would champion.</p>
<p>That being said, I thought Dana Goldstein&#39;s article sucked.<br />If the First Lady-Elect puts her children first and wants to put her children first, what&#39;s the problem?</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 00:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the dumbest blog I&#039;ve read in a while....and that&#039;s saying a lot considering this campaign season. I&#039;m real sick of women criticizing other women who put their families first. I am incredibly sick of it. Its absolutely demeaning to me as a DAUGHTER to see someone dismiss the importance of putting children first as if its comparable to any old job. Dana Golstein can catch fire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the dumbest blog I&#39;ve read in a while&#8230;.and that&#39;s saying a lot considering this campaign season. I&#39;m real sick of women criticizing other women who put their families first. I am incredibly sick of it. Its absolutely demeaning to me as a DAUGHTER to see someone dismiss the importance of putting children first as if its comparable to any old job. Dana Golstein can catch fire.</p>
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		<title>By: whiterosebuddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>whiterosebuddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Spirit...that was good.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;it was not complete though....so I searched out the entire interview&lt;br&gt;it was good&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a-discussion-about-healthcare-with-ezekiel-ari-and-rahm-emanuel&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Spirit&#8230;that was good.</p>
<p>it was not complete though&#8230;.so I searched out the entire interview<br />it was good</p>
<p><a href="http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a-discussion-about-healthcare-with-ezekiel-ari-and-rahm-emanuel" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a.." rel="nofollow">http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/06/16/1/a..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maya Angeo is a seventy year old, smart, capable, and astute buisness women. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;She made her way in life with the  help of hard earned $$$ from Black folk through her works.  And that&#039;s great.  I have doubts about her pondering jim crow when she supported Billary.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Annnd, I don&#039;t think that every one who did not support Barack is not a racist, tom, or coon. Just make your choice and claim it. When your choice looses, tryig to slink over to the winning side to grab  your 15 minutes or so fame &amp; catch a quick $$$, irritates the living f#@ck out of me!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I  think that our elders need to support the next generation who have worked, struggled, maybe not as intensely as the elders, but earned their stations in lfe just as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good lawd, I could see if the Barack was ignorant, and dumb like Palin.  We need to hold up and support  black brilliance, intelligence, goodness.  Those are the qualities we are as a people.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Angelou had an opportunity to bring some of dem lovely poems to life in support of Barack, but she made her choice.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Into the Jonny Come Lately Camp for you Maya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maya Angeo is a seventy year old, smart, capable, and astute buisness women. </p>
<p>She made her way in life with the  help of hard earned $$$ from Black folk through her works.  And that&#39;s great.  I have doubts about her pondering jim crow when she supported Billary.  </p>
<p>Annnd, I don&#39;t think that every one who did not support Barack is not a racist, tom, or coon. Just make your choice and claim it. When your choice looses, tryig to slink over to the winning side to grab  your 15 minutes or so fame &#038; catch a quick $$$, irritates the living f#@ck out of me!</p>
<p>I  think that our elders need to support the next generation who have worked, struggled, maybe not as intensely as the elders, but earned their stations in lfe just as well.</p>
<p>Good lawd, I could see if the Barack was ignorant, and dumb like Palin.  We need to hold up and support  black brilliance, intelligence, goodness.  Those are the qualities we are as a people.  </p>
<p>Angelou had an opportunity to bring some of dem lovely poems to life in support of Barack, but she made her choice.</p>
<p>Into the Jonny Come Lately Camp for you Maya!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SUNDAY EVENING OPEN THREAD IS UP</description>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>June  19, 2008 Charlie Rose interview with&lt;br&gt;The three Emanuel brothers -- Ezekiel, Rahm and Ari  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-rose/my-conversation-with-ezek_b_108153.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-rose/my-c...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>June  19, 2008 Charlie Rose interview with<br />The three Emanuel brothers &#8212; Ezekiel, Rahm and Ari  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-rose/my-conversation-with-ezek_b_108153.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-rose/my-c.." rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/charlie-rose/my-c..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: nickwah22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickwah22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i know, that&#039;s why i said its a job in itself.</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey nickwah22 - there is no such thing as &quot;only a homemaker&quot;.  Women that stay home, work at least 3 times harder than they would if they worked outside the home.  Just an fyi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey nickwah22 &#8211; there is no such thing as &#8220;only a homemaker&#8221;.  Women that stay home, work at least 3 times harder than they would if they worked outside the home.  Just an fyi.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 23:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miranda - blog was complete bullshit. . . . but opinions are like assholes, everybody has one so . . .. I wouldn&#039; t sweat it. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t take the reaction personal (i.e. Michelle&#039;s statements of being a mother first).  They don&#039;t know what to do or expect from our next first family so they are fishing.   Let them.  It is all good.  That just means they are paying attention.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding Dana Golstein catching fire - she may just get burned so again . . . I wouldn&#039;t sweat it.  Like it or not, we are all going to get another crash course/refresh on the importance of family values over the next few years from the Obamas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miranda &#8211; blog was complete bullshit. . . . but opinions are like assholes, everybody has one so . . .. I wouldn&#39; t sweat it. </p>
<p>Don&#39;t take the reaction personal (i.e. Michelle&#39;s statements of being a mother first).  They don&#39;t know what to do or expect from our next first family so they are fishing.   Let them.  It is all good.  That just means they are paying attention.  </p>
<p>Regarding Dana Golstein catching fire &#8211; she may just get burned so again . . . I wouldn&#39;t sweat it.  Like it or not, we are all going to get another crash course/refresh on the importance of family values over the next few years from the Obamas.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have really learned a lot about &quot;feminism&quot; this election. One site I keep an eye on, is already pushing the black vote on  Prop  8. This is still all about Hillary and her looking just like them.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Well, let them stew. Last I heard one slogan was 300 strong, that sounds about right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have really learned a lot about &#8220;feminism&#8221; this election. One site I keep an eye on, is already pushing the black vote on  Prop  8. This is still all about Hillary and her looking just like them.</p>
<p>Well, let them stew. Last I heard one slogan was 300 strong, that sounds about right.</p>
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		<title>By: nickwah22</title>
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		<dc:creator>nickwah22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whats the problem?  They can&#039;t have black folk in the White House that ain&#039;t pulling their weight.  Hell, if she continued on with the article should might have said the two girls need to cut the damn front lawn!  She is ignorant at best; where was her article when all of the other First Ladies were in the White House, with no children, just chillin&#039;?  Michelle Obama is a stand up woman, I doubt she will only be a homemaker, not that it isn&#039;t a job in itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whats the problem?  They can&#39;t have black folk in the White House that ain&#39;t pulling their weight.  Hell, if she continued on with the article should might have said the two girls need to cut the damn front lawn!  She is ignorant at best; where was her article when all of the other First Ladies were in the White House, with no children, just chillin&#39;?  Michelle Obama is a stand up woman, I doubt she will only be a homemaker, not that it isn&#39;t a job in itself.</p>
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		<title>By: spirit_55z</title>
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		<dc:creator>spirit_55z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 22:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whiterosbuddy, great eye. Thanks. :-))</description>
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