Comments on: Emancipation Proclamation 2.0 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: aaronraulhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-338350 aaronraul Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:13:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-338350 It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why "some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why “some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion

]]> By: aaronraulhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-161814 aaronraul Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:13:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-161814 It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why "some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why “some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion

]]> By: aaronraulhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-99511 aaronraul Fri, 14 Nov 2008 00:13:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-99511 It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why "some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion It is my observation that a lot of these comments stem from anger at white people and most of the threads are perceived from a us vs them reality Whenever I bring up the subject of Black racism.and we as people being subject to manipulation from sources stoking that anger I become the subject of charachter attacks rather such as being called arrogant,batshitcrazy,etc,If nothing else I am confident in my ability to access elitist world governmental strusture.pscho sociological media manipulation and most important cause and effect in relation to objectives,I fell that we as Black people can greatly enhance our power by viewing are problems outside of the context of race,realizing that these are universal problems and bonding with like minds to solve them,We tend to get to caught up in the boundaries of racial dialogue,therfore limiting action on the problem,Prop 8 is a good example.There are many different reasons why “some in the gay community are blamig blacks.,I doubt that pure racism is a factor although some element of racil discord is evident.Most people arent racist on the level of white supremist.So I would take race out of the equation and deal with the fact that the majoritty of blacks that voted for Prop 8 did so out of religious reasons, Basically Prop 8 is unconstitutional,Most laws that dont protect your body or property are unconstitutional,therfore it is a civil rights matter,However you cant equate it with Blak civil rights because one is basic human rights another is whats socially acceptable,The other thing is that Blacks have been fighting for basic rights for over 200 years,Gays have been trying to get marries just recently It takes time. Therefore it would be beneficial that blacks and gays engage in dialogueon differnt aspects of this issue so that we can form bonds where possible in order to keep this from becoming a wedge issue that makes people start voting for people who dont have their best interest in mins,(basically republicans).You se when we start calling these people racist rich white gays that dont care about Black issues or take other conrntational stances regardless of whats been said by the other side we playy right into the hands of provacateurs and agents of dis-unity.I dont mean to sound arrogant but Im a free thinker and therefore take a lot of shots,I believe knowledge is all about continuing to challenge our perceptions and putting ourselves in the others shoes,Ive learned this from experience from being subjected to a lot of racism in all white scools and later witnessing raw racism in the pen,Racism is the by product of lack of self worth and when you call someone a racist you only reinforce their racism and lack of self esteem Remember a soft word turns away a grievious attack.Obamas campaign was an illustration of this in motion

]]> By: envirohttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98637 enviro Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:08:48 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98637 That kind of attitude from the WSJ is why I couldn't stand McCain's concession speech -- like, whoo hoo, no more having to hear that everybody doesn' t have the same shot. Well, everyone doesn't -- Obama simply overcame an extra-high hurdle. I strongly recommend the article on the first page of the NYT Week In Review section on how Obama won over working class whites in PA. Basically, they were deeply prejudiced against him -- he just was so good he won them over. Personally I don't think they will ever be able to be as prejudiced as they were again after that vote and with this president. I just think subconscious stuff is too strong and looking at a black man doing a great job (which he has yet to do but I truly believe he will) at the world's toughest job (or one of them) will play a huge role. I hope the Obama folks will let us in and propose some stuff that his former volunteers and ardent supporters can do to help him succeed besides emailing our congresspeople from time to time -- that would be great. That kind of attitude from the WSJ is why I couldn't stand McCain's concession speech — like, whoo hoo, no more having to hear that everybody doesn' t have the same shot. Well, everyone doesn't — Obama simply overcame an extra-high hurdle. I strongly recommend the article on the first page of the NYT Week In Review section on how Obama won over working class whites in PA. Basically, they were deeply prejudiced against him — he just was so good he won them over. Personally I don't think they will ever be able to be as prejudiced as they were again after that vote and with this president. I just think subconscious stuff is too strong and looking at a black man doing a great job (which he has yet to do but I truly believe he will) at the world's toughest job (or one of them) will play a huge role. I hope the Obama folks will let us in and propose some stuff that his former volunteers and ardent supporters can do to help him succeed besides emailing our congresspeople from time to time — that would be great.

]]> By: Rhondacocahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98480 Rhondacoca Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:54:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98480 and have a nice day. and have a nice day.

]]> By: Rhondacocahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98479 Rhondacoca Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:52:33 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98479 However, you are making the mistake of assumptions and blanket generalizations. Pretty arrogant if you ask me. However, you are making the mistake of assumptions and blanket generalizations. Pretty arrogant if you ask me.

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98478 whiterosebuddy Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:51:45 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98478 Ms. Martin we got on the train at the same spot. I too cried and wondered and hoped and prayed for this moment. You just said it so much better.<br>Obama is soooo awesome. He electrified the audience and all the people watching on TV when he gave that speech in 2004 at the DNC.,..it spoke to my heart TOO!!<br><br>I am with you on not forgotting the ones who sat on the fence or the ones who threw stones at us as we walked by either.<br><br>I have a memory like a elephant for that type of moral cowardice. I have no respect for all those folks who lacked the courage of conviction to stand up for what was right vs. political expediency.<br><br>I am with you they can keep walking...I will never again in life look at Bill Clinton the same nor Hillary for that awful awful racemongering that has built to such a cresendo with Palin egging those demented racists and xenophoic folks into a frenzy such that MY President, MY President' ..has a motorcade that not only includes an armored Limo for him, but also has a hazadous material vehicle along with a another ominous vehicle carrying a counterassualt team riding shotgun with windows DOWN !!<br><br>Which means there will be no questions first...it is shoot to kill!!!<br><br>I read that on Thurs in Chicago when the motorcade was riding down the street folks in Chicago were not use to it...and one car driven by an AfricanAmerican man tried to drive around the motorcade and he was immeadiately push over by the ominous vehicle with assualt rifles pointed at his head, the story said he just mouthed the words OBAMA as he realized it...cuz you know that brother was thinking OMG they have taken Driving While Black to a whole new level!!<br><br>Can you imagine that he had assault rifles in his face!!! In AMERICA!! Driving down the street trying to pass a motorcade.<br><br>Reminded me of Bogota.<br><br>All courtesy of the Clintons and palin and McCain! Ms. Martin we got on the train at the same spot. I too cried and wondered and hoped and prayed for this moment. You just said it so much better.
Obama is soooo awesome. He electrified the audience and all the people watching on TV when he gave that speech in 2004 at the DNC.,..it spoke to my heart TOO!!

I am with you on not forgotting the ones who sat on the fence or the ones who threw stones at us as we walked by either.

I have a memory like a elephant for that type of moral cowardice. I have no respect for all those folks who lacked the courage of conviction to stand up for what was right vs. political expediency.

I am with you they can keep walking…I will never again in life look at Bill Clinton the same nor Hillary for that awful awful racemongering that has built to such a cresendo with Palin egging those demented racists and xenophoic folks into a frenzy such that MY President, MY President' ..has a motorcade that not only includes an armored Limo for him, but also has a hazadous material vehicle along with a another ominous vehicle carrying a counterassualt team riding shotgun with windows DOWN !!

Which means there will be no questions first…it is shoot to kill!!!

I read that on Thurs in Chicago when the motorcade was riding down the street folks in Chicago were not use to it…and one car driven by an AfricanAmerican man tried to drive around the motorcade and he was immeadiately push over by the ominous vehicle with assualt rifles pointed at his head, the story said he just mouthed the words OBAMA as he realized it…cuz you know that brother was thinking OMG they have taken Driving While Black to a whole new level!!

Can you imagine that he had assault rifles in his face!!! In AMERICA!! Driving down the street trying to pass a motorcade.

Reminded me of Bogota.

All courtesy of the Clintons and palin and McCain!

]]> By: whiterosebuddyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98472 whiterosebuddy Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:38:37 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98472 The vast majority of blacks in prisons come from single female heads of household.<br>If we are serious about lowering incarceration rates we need to have programs to deter out of wedlock births as well as teen pregnancy. We need programs that educate and teach black girls that they do not need a child before marriage and they do not want to be a teen mother because the odds of their children living in poverty are ridiculously high and the odds of their child being imprisoned are ridiculously high.<br><br>Changing that one variable alone would have a significant impact on the rates of incarceration. The vast majority of blacks in prisons come from single female heads of household.
If we are serious about lowering incarceration rates we need to have programs to deter out of wedlock births as well as teen pregnancy. We need programs that educate and teach black girls that they do not need a child before marriage and they do not want to be a teen mother because the odds of their children living in poverty are ridiculously high and the odds of their child being imprisoned are ridiculously high.

Changing that one variable alone would have a significant impact on the rates of incarceration.

]]> By: TaurusSunhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98435 TaurusSun Wed, 12 Nov 2008 02:38:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98435 No more racism, <br>then i say let's clear the prisons in America and lower the number of Black Americans residing in prison to correlate to per cent of Black Americans in the general population.<br><br>We sure need all of this disproportionately imprisoned human capital to help rebuild the American economy. No more racism,
then i say let's clear the prisons in America and lower the number of Black Americans residing in prison to correlate to per cent of Black Americans in the general population.

We sure need all of this disproportionately imprisoned human capital to help rebuild the American economy.

]]> By: Aaron/Raulhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98346 Aaron/Raul Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:07:54 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98346 I understand that everyone here is on different levels of the Black experience and that all levels are equal Ive just been trying to introduce another dimension into this atmosphere.Its only through the introduction of new ideas that growth and progress can be reached.Most of the time no one even replys to my comments.Its like when youre talking to someone and they dont even hear you because thier thinking of what they are going to say I understand that everyone here is on different levels of the Black experience and that all levels are equal Ive just been trying to introduce another dimension into this atmosphere.Its only through the introduction of new ideas that growth and progress can be reached.Most of the time no one even replys to my comments.Its like when youre talking to someone and they dont even hear you because thier thinking of what they are going to say

]]> By: sdg1844http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98333 sdg1844 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:30:32 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98333 Amen! I've felt "invisible" for much of my life as a Black Woman. PE Obama and Michelle have brought us front and center. Like Donna Brazile said "I ain't goin' to the back of the bus no mo."! Amen! I've felt “invisible” for much of my life as a Black Woman. PE Obama and Michelle have brought us front and center. Like Donna Brazile said “I ain't goin' to the back of the bus no mo.”!

]]> By: GoldenAhhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98332 GoldenAh Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:29:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98332 Rupert Murdoch owns too many media properties. They all have the same bark. Some of these dogs need to be let loose and given to different owners. Rupert Murdoch owns too many media properties. They all have the same bark. Some of these dogs need to be let loose and given to different owners.

]]> By: msmartinhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98329 msmartin Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:22:50 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98329 You must have missed the coming together of folks to get the president they wanted. Give us time. You must have missed the coming together of folks to get the president they wanted. Give us time.

]]> By: msmartinhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98324 msmartin Tue, 11 Nov 2008 23:01:48 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98324 rikyrah, I had and have so much faith in Barack Obama. I have every since the 2004 speech. He was speaking to my heart. Just as someone mentioned on another thread, he set out to stop the demeaning of one group for another. Call me simple, but I don't see whats wrong with doing the right thing. A part of the right thing in politics is stating your case without demeaning others and groups. Bush and his ilk had made it so popular to demean whole groups of nameless faceless A.m.e.r.i.c.a.n.s. I don't know many other people felt it, but because of the rhetoric that republicans spit, I was devalued as a person because I am African American. It hurt. I can't tell you how many times during the primary that I cried and prayed and wondered why for so long minorities (all) have been treated and thought of in such a terrible way. I cried at the way Bill and Hillary turned on us and called out for "their" folks to help them win. I cried when I thought of these things and of recent times when I hated been treated horribly because I am a proud black woman. I literally cried out to God and asked why with a broken heart. The better Obama did, the more he fought (quietly), the more he came out on top of all the ugliness, I got stronger.<br><br>I said all this to say, if he could build strength and hope in me and millions of others and stand up tall (like I always do) and believe in and keep walking for what is right regardless to what he was up against how could any black man speak out against that. I have not forgot one of those mother fuckers - Not one. rikyrah, I had and have so much faith in Barack Obama. I have every since the 2004 speech. He was speaking to my heart. Just as someone mentioned on another thread, he set out to stop the demeaning of one group for another. Call me simple, but I don't see whats wrong with doing the right thing. A part of the right thing in politics is stating your case without demeaning others and groups. Bush and his ilk had made it so popular to demean whole groups of nameless faceless A.m.e.r.i.c.a.n.s. I don't know many other people felt it, but because of the rhetoric that republicans spit, I was devalued as a person because I am African American. It hurt. I can't tell you how many times during the primary that I cried and prayed and wondered why for so long minorities (all) have been treated and thought of in such a terrible way. I cried at the way Bill and Hillary turned on us and called out for “their” folks to help them win. I cried when I thought of these things and of recent times when I hated been treated horribly because I am a proud black woman. I literally cried out to God and asked why with a broken heart. The better Obama did, the more he fought (quietly), the more he came out on top of all the ugliness, I got stronger.

I said all this to say, if he could build strength and hope in me and millions of others and stand up tall (like I always do) and believe in and keep walking for what is right regardless to what he was up against how could any black man speak out against that. I have not forgot one of those mother fuckers – Not one.

]]> By: aaronraulhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98322 aaronraul Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:50:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98322 Im Black not Afro American.Im Black because I have a state of mind that recognizes that there is an ego driven consciusness that strives to keep people in conflict with each other by means of race,gender ,religion and social status.I see no creative dialogue on this site.I notice my people being consumed with anger towards not only whites but anyone who doesnt accept the ideology of entotlement baced on race.I see our greatest enemy Black Racism.All I read is about Obama or what the government is doing or not doing,I havent read anything about what we are doing about the brother in Atlanta getting ready to be put to death even though all the witnesses mow say theygave false testimony,Not one person commented on my idea to use these sites to target and boycott companies in an effort to get them to set up achooling training and job placement centers for all poor people, Every race has been master every race has been enslaved .We must move past solely perceiving everything through the Black experience and broaden our perspective to view our difficulties as things that affect all race, Herein lies real power ,Otherwise we marginalize ourselves into a perpetual game of us against them and call and response to media manipulation meant to kee us angry and predictable Im Black not Afro American.Im Black because I have a state of mind that recognizes that there is an ego driven consciusness that strives to keep people in conflict with each other by means of race,gender ,religion and social status.I see no creative dialogue on this site.I notice my people being consumed with anger towards not only whites but anyone who doesnt accept the ideology of entotlement baced on race.I see our greatest enemy Black Racism.All I read is about Obama or what the government is doing or not doing,I havent read anything about what we are doing about the brother in Atlanta getting ready to be put to death even though all the witnesses mow say theygave false testimony,Not one person commented on my idea to use these sites to target and boycott companies in an effort to get them to set up achooling training and job placement centers for all poor people, Every race has been master every race has been enslaved .We must move past solely perceiving everything through the Black experience and broaden our perspective to view our difficulties as things that affect all race, Herein lies real power ,Otherwise we marginalize ourselves into a perpetual game of us against them and call and response to media manipulation meant to kee us angry and predictable

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98298 rikyrah Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:49:37 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98298 you have been cracking me up counting all the folks trying to catch the train..LOL you have been cracking me up counting all the folks trying to catch the train..LOL

]]> By: CraigHickmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98286 CraigHickman Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:39:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98286 Hear, hear. Hear, hear.

]]> By: Mirandahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98258 Miranda Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:55:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98258 "The myth of racism"....so like...it was just a tall tale?? Like Bigfoot? huh...how bout that.... “The myth of racism”….so like…it was just a tall tale?? Like Bigfoot? huh…how bout that….

]]> By: msmartinhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98256 msmartin Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:45:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98256 I do believe Mr. Gates is another one try to catch the train before it leaves the station. I do believe Mr. Gates is another one try to catch the train before it leaves the station.

]]> By: bigassbellehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/11/emancipation-proclamation-20/comment-page-1/#comment-98245 bigassbelle Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:20:14 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4651#comment-98245 no no, hearts, it's not WELFARE nor is it SOCIALISM when rich folks get it. it's only us poor and middle class folks who are welfare leaches sucking on the public teat. rich folks are getting what they so well deserve as superior beings. no no, hearts, it's not WELFARE nor is it SOCIALISM when rich folks get it. it's only us poor and middle class folks who are welfare leaches sucking on the public teat. rich folks are getting what they so well deserve as superior beings.

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