Jack & Jill Politics

Rikyrah I love the pics you post. All of them are so poignant.

"Divided, demoralized and depressed" Debbie Wasserman Schultz call the Republican party out.

Oh snap!

Obama just called out Joe the Plumber

He had Bill laughing he had to wipe the tears away...

Then he had Bill standing up and cheering...

What the hell is going on?

I missed that line. What did he say?

He said, "99.9% of plumbers make less than $250,000"

dang it ms martin!!!, now why did u have 2 go and tell me this story......as a momma's boy who lost his mother at the age of 16 to breast cancer, i wish she was here because i know she would have me and my brother doing all we could 2 get our fellow southsider elected POTUS....it's her spirit and wisdom that i remember and is what made me really get involved in this election

I bet she's watching proudly.

Live on MSNBC

Bill and Barack in Kissimee, FL

This should be interesting

Bill Clinton was bringing it! Whoa!

i'm still not feelingn Bill. When Obama mentioned Bill's name in the beginning, the crowd kept shouting O.b.a.m.a. I loved it.

For once Bubba seems to be earning his keep. Wonder who put the fear of God in him?

I've been down in NC all week on business and folks are fired up down here. For real. I took a taxi from the airport and we weren't 3 minutes into the drive when the cabbie asked me "So, did you early vote yet?" I told him no because NJ doesn't have early voting but I will be there bright and early next week. He said be sure you don't forget, and take everybody you know to the polls. Everybody I talked to is so excited about the election, and about Obama. I think the NC results are going to shock a lot of people.

Two Words: JIM CLYBURN.

He put the fear of God into Bill Clinton. Trouble was, Bill didn't get the message and have his "come to Jesus" moment until lately, and after his wife got the boot out of the Democratic Nomination.

Imagine how much more milage he could have gotten if he'd gotten over his sense of "entitlement" and desire for a "de-facto" third term through Hillary sooner.

I'm still kinda pissed about that because it dragged shyt out until the convention in Denver, and it was not necessary.

Watching it now. Bubba is quite the cheerleader.

Only because if he and Hillary don't get on board, they're toast in the Democratic Party, and too "liberal" for the ReThugs.

October 29th shall be forever known as Obama Media Day.

pjamma: I'm ready to celebrate in 2009! Whoooo! Hooo! :>)

right! I just realized that too...

Why does Joe the Plumber....have a publicist?

Maybe he's trying to get into the 250,000+ dollar tax bracket so he can qualify for the McCain tax cuts. Problem is, Obama's going to win.

Joe the Plumber is an idiot! Did you hear how he answered that question about Israel? Why don't someone tell him to stfu?!

30 Days | 30 Reasons : Restraint (#7)
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=N6rfsIaTDN0

The Obama ad hasn't aired yet on the West Coast :(. Did anybody see Nancy Grace last night? I normally don't watch but she had William Balfour's momma on and it was a hot mess!!! For example: "My son was only 16 when he got arrested, but he had only intended to STEAL the car. The man saw him in the car and jumped on the hood and put his hand through the window. That's why he got charged for car jacking and attempted murder."

When Nancy asked her about the girlfriend and the alibi she replied, "He was at (so and so's the night before) and the (pregnant gf) that day. Nancy commented on there being 2 girlfriends while he's still married. "So what, Julia's got a boyfriend."

And if that wasn't the kicker she also added that the brother was a drug dealer.

Phillies just won the world series.......Pennsylvania will GO TO OBAMA

Yeah Phillies!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkMXnk16kiE

New Ad Mocks GOP Skills At Disaster Management VIDEO
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/new-ad...

Ohio federal court: homeless cannot be disenfranchised
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/29/17854/...

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — A federal judge in Ohio has ruled that counties must allow homeless voters to list park benches and other locations that aren't buildings as their addresses.

U.S. District Judge Edmund Sargus also ruled that provisional ballots can't be invalidated because of poll worker errors.

Great News. This varies state by state however.

I voted today. I also helped my mother who is losing her sight and is in the beginning stages of Alzheimers to vote. I read the choices for her and she said, "of course I'm voting for Obama" now read me the rest.

My brother also went with us and while he registers every year, this year was the first time he has ever voted.

msmartin: THANK YOU for sharing. Please give "mom" a "real hug" in substitute for this "virtual hug!mmmmmmm!"

God Bless her and ALL the family! AMEN. :>)

ms.martin,

you just made me cry.

MsMartin,

Your mom sound just the way my mom did.(read me the rest) She also was losing her sight due to glaucoma. Both she & my dad would have loved this moment in time!

msmartin, congratulations to you and your mom! What was the experience like for you?

We voted over my lunch hour from work. I wanted to vote early so my mother wouldn't have to wait in long lines, but we voted at the election commission and there were only six machines and long lines. I did find a chair for her though. Unfortunately, she fell when she got up to vote (I felt so bad, I didn't see it as I was filling out the affidavit to be able to assist her with her vote), but it didn't slow her down one bit. She shook that off and was ready to vote.

There were many seniors there making sure they got their vote in. The election judges took the time to help them figure out how to work the machines.

The best thing about all of it was that my mother was anxious and worried (Alzheimer's) that she wasn't registered and that she wouldn't be able to vote, but this evening watching Obama's commercial, she was praising the Lord that she had the chance to cast her vote. That, made it all worth while.

MsMartin,

Enjoy your Mom! Enjoy every minute that you can and savor the moments. You're so blessed!

Thanks. I will. Sometimes I get frustrated, but then I remember when I was little and she was my world and all I wanted was her. Now all she wants is me.

She says to me often, "You used to wait for me to come home from work and now I wait for you to come home from work."

She says to me often, "You used to wait for me to come home from work and now I wait for you to come home from work."

Good lord....if that doesn't sound familar, I swear. When I got home from work, I'd ask her how was her day.....She always said....."same old 6 and 7! lol She was so sweet. I still love her. Love never dies!

I can understand about the frustration. Seeing someone you love with Alzheimers can be very stressful. My mother didn't have it but an uncle did and it was hard for his children. So I understand. You're a good daughter and your reward is waiting. God will remember your honor! Hang in there! Thanks for sharing about your Mom, it was good for me because it reminded me of mine! Thanks!

You're wecome. I'm just glad I'm here to see her through it. It would hurt more to know she was going through it with people who don't care as much as I do.

God took me through an ugly thing to get me here, but now I understand. He was bringing me to her before she had to suffer.

msmartin: AMEN

TRUST IN THE LORD!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSZI_YEJUHs&eurl...
How Great Thou Art

many blessings to you ms.martin....many blessings

sweet, thanks for sharing msmartin.

May God bless and strengthen you as care for your mother.

Thank you.

I wish they could be here to enjoy it with you. I know my dad who died at 53 would have been the happiest man on earth. He never thought he was diffferent or any less qualified than anyone and he stood on that until the day he died.

msmartin, my heart is singing for you and your mom. After the election, will you continue to participate in the political process?

I'll vote next Tuesday here in Minnesota. I can't wait to hear that Michelle Bachman has been unseated!

Michelle Bachman must go.

Thank you. And, yes of course I will continue, I am hooked. I had followed Obama since 2004 and last year I found myself excited and anxious about the primaries and without a lot of people to talk to about it. I had great faith in Obama, but the people I talked to about it in Georgia had no faith. I remember a co-worker responding to me that nobody knew who he was. I was sitting alone after a rough time and in need of someone to share my thoughts and feelings about the process and did a google search and found JJP. I've been checking in everyday since.

I can't wait to call that girl and tell her they know who he is now!

Your sharing is so heartfelt. JJP is most definitely the place to come and share, learn and grow. I've only been coming here for about a month or so. Folks here are well versed, well educated, wickedly funny, and passioantely commited to the a true and just political process.

And yes, Bachman's ass is toast!

Obama Political Infomercial Thread is up

OMG.....if this doesn't choke you up, seek a priest because you are full of demons. This is so moving:

Charles Meets Barack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TW-6DpC-mj8

Rikyrah this may need to be a thread of its own.

we put it up yesterday as a thread of its own.

Miranda, where have you been? It was a thread yesterday.

I don't know how I missed it! ...............dang......I guess I was actually working while I was at work yesterday.........that'll teach me not to do THAT again!

Check out the thread. It was really emotional.

Ok, so Tom Delay was on Hardball with Chris Matthews. He straight up (no alluding) called Obama, "marxist".

He said Obama wants to "shred the Constitution", brought up Jeremiah Wright, Ayers, you name it.

These people are crazy. I can't wait for Tuesday.

But Debbie Wasserman Schultz held it down though, bitchslapping Delay immediately.

rikyrah: When she was "on the other side (billary)", I couldn't tolerate her. But, I knew that she could campaign!

Now that she is on the "CORRECT SIDE", she has been amazing! :>)

"With all due respect", she "pimp-slapped" him on BOTH sides of his face. :>)

Annnnnd, I believe that she "kicked a little ARSE" when she got through with that! :>)

It was DELIGHTFUL!! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!! TRUST

Immediately. She pretty much said he was the poster child for corruption and that he was ousted. She neutralized him and validated the fact that he is jealous and hatefully insane. See ya Tom - bye.

Yes she did! After Delay left and I saw that Debbie Wasserman was up next, I said.....ok here it comes.....get him! And right out of the gate, she put a shine on that bitchslap! Woo hoo!

"with all due respect".....LOL....

Colorado CNN/Time Obama 53, McCain 45 Obama +8
Colorado Associated Press/GfK Obama 50, McCain 41 Obama +9
Florida CNN/Time Obama 51, McCain 47 Obama +4
Florida Associated Press/GfK Obama 45, McCain 43 Obama +2
Florida Quinnipiac Obama 47, McCain 45 Obama +2
Georgia CNN/Time McCain 52, Obama 47 McCain +5
Michigan Rasmussen Obama 53, McCain 43 Obama +10
Minnesota Rasmussen Obama 55, McCain 43 Obama +12
Missouri CNN/Time Obama 48, McCain 50 McCain +2
Nevada Associated Press/GfK Obama 52, McCain 40 Obama +12
New Hampshire Associated Press/GfK Obama 55, McCain 37 Obama +18
New Mexico Rasmussen Obama 54, McCain 44 Obama +10
North Carolina Associated Press/GfK Obama 48, McCain 46 Obama +2
Ohio Marist Obama 48, McCain 45 Obama +3
Ohio Associated Press/GfK Obama 48, McCain 41 Obama +7
Ohio Quinnipiac Obama 51, McCain 42 Obama +9
Pennsylvania Marist Obama 55, McCain 41 Obama +14
Pennsylvania Quinnipiac Obama 53, McCain 41 Obama +12
Pennsylvania Associated Press/GfK Obama 52, McCain 40 Obama +12
Pennsylvania Franklin & Marshall Obama 53, McCain 40 Obama +13
Virginia CNN/Time Obama 53, McCain 44 Obama +9
Virginia Associated Press/GfK Obama 49, McCain 42 Obama +7
Washington Strategic Vision (R) Obama 54, McCain 42 Obama +12

National Rasmussen Reports Obama 50, McCain 47 Obama +3
National Gallup Obama 51, McCain 42 Obama +9
National Diageo/Hotline Obama 49, McCain 42 Obama +7
National Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 49, McCain 44 Obama +5
National ABC News/Wash Post Obama 52, McCain 44 Obama +8

I think Missouri is Obama's. At this point, it comes down to the ground game, and I'll put my money on his ground game.

I'm with you, rikyrah.

Show some love, people.

What was I thinking when I called Sarah Palin a bitch?

HILARIOUS

rikyrah: BWAHAHAHAHA! Just 2 funny!!! :>)

rikyrah, omg, this lady is brilliantly funny and right on!

Country Last has purchased a new round of Anti-Obama robocalls....

this time in ARIZONA

ARIZONA

Obama buys tv airtime (positive), McCain buys robocalls (negative). I cannot wait and I just hope that come Jan09 the scare tactics stop!

I was just about to post this! ROFLMAO!! Obama has him running scared in his HOMESTATE......LMAO! Damn...he can barely defend his HOUSE.

I think Obama should hold a rally there-just for kicks

LOL......And Obama should walk out on the stage to:

"NOBODY ON THE CORNER GOT SWAGGER LIKE BARACK"!!

IN YO FACE MCCREEPYSMILE!!

You made me laugh out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rikyrah: O.K. I just put Michelle Bernard - "BACK-IN-HER-BOX!" She's on Chris Matthews tryin' to convince us that the UN-VETTED ONE has some substance - because she can READ A SPEECH THAT WAS WRITTEN BY A SPEECH WRITER!

Never mind that she has been proven to have had an ETHICS VIOLATION.

Never mind that the government of Alaska is initiating a SECOND ETHICS VIOLATION INVESTIGATION!!

Never mind that we've seen her LACK OF GRAY MATTER!!

ENOUGH!!! BACK-IN-THE-BOX Michelle!!

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Yeah, she has been kinda off lately. My husband says the Republicans got to her.

I think she feels compelled to address what she considers "sexist" slights since she represents a Independent women's group.

Honey01: Well. she's made her CHOICE! Gotta go where her Benjamins come from! SAD!

BACK-IN-THE-BOX! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

But why is no one addressing the sexist crap that went on with Michelle. They boo-hoo Cindy, Sarah and Hillary... What about Michelle!!!!

Anyone heard from the PUMA's?

islandgirl550: Thank you. I don't recall hearing her "angst" regarding Mrs. Obama. humf!!

BACK-IN-THE-BOX!! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

GLH, Michelle's weave must be too tight. I couldn't believe how she was applauding Palin's ability to recite a speech that she did not write! C'mon! Didn't she see the interviews with Couric, Gibson and Williams? Palin can't function in a one-on-one unscripted interview. Plus, it has been pointed out that this so called "expert on energy" has gotten her facts wrong on several occasions.

She doesn't speak intelligently nor appear to have the necessary tools to write a speech. Glad she is running for VP rather than McCain putting her in his cabinet.

Sepia: Co-sign. I'm through! :>)

BACK-IN-THE-BOX!! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Sarah Palin has as much "substance" as the stuff in the middle of a Twinkie.

Hey now! Don't insult Twinkies! :-P

rikyrah: Mr. Obama admits GUILT -HE "SHARED" HIS TOYS. . . . BWAHAHAHA..

"I Shared My Toys! [VIDEO]

"Now, because he knows that his economic theories don't work, he's been spending these last few days calling me every name in the book. Lately he's called me a socialist for wanting to roll-back the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans so we can finally give tax relief to the middle class. I don't know what's next. By the end of the week he'll be accusing me of being a secret communist because I shared my toys in kindergarten. I shared my peanut butter and jelly sandwich."

ROTFL!!! :>) :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Not sure if this was already posted, but the Center For Social Inclusion is having a Webinar on Racism in the Election Cycle.

If you're interested, they're asking folks to RSVP here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1azQcs-8iI

McCain's new ad tying Obama to Muslims. Note the "Muslim-y" music in the background.

Ok McCain, you're almost there. You've got 5 more days to do it. You know you want to do it:

Just show images of the LA Riots, Ludacris, Flava Flav, Snoop Dogg, video girls, welfare queens, Katrina victims aka "refugees" "looting" etc. Then show images of the gritty South Side of Chicago, all with "Fight the Power" playing in the background.

You know you want to do it, so go ahead and get it over with.

I predicted his last ad will be Barack in traditional garb superimposed over the WTC attacks.

He's getting there.

Here's what I love: Barack knows that nothing McCain can do or say is going to change the outcome of the race. It will have to be some outside-the-campaign event.

I agree.

Town,

you've been predicting this political ad for sometime.

I think it's going to happen.

How dare you leave O.J. off the list.....and I think he'll go further than Fight the Power and pull out NWA's "F**K the Police"

Town:
Don't forget the menacing voice-over:

"HE'S BLACK, DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND!"
"HE'S BBBBLLLLLLAAAAACCCCCKKKKK!"

Woman paints lawn after Obama sign is stolen
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=erHYe5xT8JA

Saw Obama in the rain yesterday, in PA. Man, I would walk barefooted on hot coal to make that guy our next President. I'm practically in church every evening. After a certain point, all one can do is fucking pray...Truly.

T.
Whassup my people?

Hi T,

I think a lot of us feel this way.

Here is a great ad
Are you better off?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrBKC3nQHYk

Joe the Plumber lived in Alaska for 4 years in the 1990's...as per Rick on CNN

Maybe he's Bristol's real daddy.

I was soooo trying not to laugh at this comment...still holding it in...really..

Go ahead....let it out.....I DID!!! LMAO!!

She probably slipped him a $20 to stand in that rope line when she found out Obama was gonna be in town.

TruthSeeker: Great FIND!!! :>) NOW, I'm gon ask -- who is going to CONTINUE the INVESTIGATION regarding HIS TIES with the UN-VETTED ONE?

"Hmmmmmmmmm?"

Things that make ya go...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?[/arsenio]

Town: I'm doing a "duet" with you on the "hmmmmmmmmm." What Key are you "humming" in?? :>) :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!! TRUST

I'm humming in the key of O. LOL

Town: DONE! :>) hmmmmmmmm -"O"

LOL!!! :>)

P.S. Why do humming birds hum??

'cause they don't know the words!! :>) :>)

O.K. Gotta get back to WORK! :>)

LOL

Wow, I never thought I would see an Obama sign in this yard: http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Con...

I also really enjoyed John Mayer's column about "hope" at HuffPo: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-mayer/hope-i...

An excerpt:

To those who question whether hope is a tangible product worth building a campaign around, I'd say take a look at despair and how powerful that has been in reshaping how people think and live. I believe the definition of the "hope" that Barack Obama enthuses operates on the unspoken thesis that there has to be a polar opposite to the despair of 9/11. Because if we accept that there's not, the will to live becomes forever altered. To adults who will vote for him, Barack Obama represents a return to prosperity. To the youth, he represents an introduction to it.

Rikyrah!

I was sooooo hoping you would use exactly this picture for an open thread.

You are so good!

I guess this is sort of big news.

http://www.amconmag.com/article/2008/nov/03/00020/

November 03, 2008 Issue
Copyright © 2008 The American Conservative

Francis Fukuyama PDF





I’m voting for Barack Obama this November for a very simple reason. It is hard to imagine a more disastrous presidency than that of George W. Bush. It was bad enough that he launched an unnecessary war and undermined the standing of the United States throughout the world in his first term. But in the waning days of his administration, he is presiding over a collapse of the American financial system and broader economy that will have consequences for years to come. As a general rule, democracies don’t work well if voters do not hold political parties accountable for failure. While John McCain is trying desperately to pretend that he never had anything to do with the Republican Party, I think it would a travesty to reward the Republicans for failure on such a grand scale.

McCain’s appeal was always that he could think for himself, but as the campaign has progressed, he has seemed simply erratic and hotheaded. His choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate was highly irresponsible; we have suffered under the current president who entered office without much knowledge of the world and was easily captured by the wrong advisers. McCain’s lurching from Reaganite free- marketer to populist tribune makes one wonder whether he has any underlying principles at all.

America has been living in a dream world for the past few years, losing its basic values of thrift and prudence and living far beyond its means, even as it has lectured the rest of the world to follow its model. At a time when the U.S. government has just nationalized a good part of the banking sector, we need to rethink a lot of the Reaganite verities of the past generation regarding taxes and regulation. Important as they were back in the 1980s and ’90s, they just won’t cut it for the period we are now entering. Obama is much better positioned to reinvent the American model and will certainly present a very different and more positive face of America to the rest of the world.

Francis Fukuyama is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

Obama Up by 6 in Daily Kos Tracking Poll

Obama, according to the same poll, led by 12 percentage points on October 25. The poll is also highly weighted to the Dems.

Why do think this is happening? Why is this tightening to 'be expected'?

Read the internals

What do they tell YOU?

LOL they tell me that unless Obama is caught on tape sticking his dick into your ear canal while playing the drums on your booty he's far enough ahead of McCain to the point where McCain really can't catch up.

At this point McCain and Palin might as well make one last ad saying "BUT HE'S BLACK! C'MON ON, AMERUKA, HE'S BLAAAAAAAAACK." They may as well try it, they don't have anything to lose except the election.

LOL! You are too much!

Town! I just screamed and laughed out loud like a mental patient whne I read your comment. LOOLOLOLOLOL!

LOL

Here is what they say. While the tracking polls have tightened compared to where they were, the state polling has pushed Obama out to his most secure lead of the entire campaign.

Obama's state by state situation is improving, even as the Pollster.com and the Daily Kos tracker has dropped for Obama. However according to most forecasts Obama now reaches 273 electoral votes in states where he leads by 8.3% or more, and hits 311 electoral in states where he leads by 6.5% or more.

Check http://www.intrade.com/

Great, stay home. Start celebrating. No need to vote, we'll just leave it up to the media to choose our president.

Oh......that wasn't the answer you were looking for? shocker.

Too late already voted. No need for you to whine when someone provides you with some analysis of the the poll numbers.

LOL@ "too late already voted." Nice one Suprk!

Go read them yourself. It's very easy all YOU need to do is click on the link. at Daily Kos.

S, this has you catchin' the vapors doesn't it? LOL!

Not an answer. Can't you explain it? Why is McCain still standing?

Ummm, 'cause the election hasn't occurred yet?

The REAL question is why isn't he putting the nail in Obama's coffin? He ran in 2000. He was the clear choice of the Republicans and had 6 months to announce his VP choice. He is white. He has been in Congress for 26 years. He is the one who has every stacked FOR him.

EXPLAIN WHY HE ISN'T BLOWING OBAMA OUT OF THE WATER. This election SHOULD have been easy. Sure, the history says it was going to be Democratic year to win, but the guy he is running against UNLIKE any of DEM who have run before... EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR YOUR LIFE IN PA?

Co-sign Evita.

Why can't he close the deal?

That's easy: the deal was never ours to close. No Republican-short of the second incarnation of Reagan-was supposed to be competitive this year (in most places), much less win.

Oh so you believe that the first Black candidate the one with the funny name was a shoe in? You believe they man with a Muslim name in an Islmaphobic society, born to an African father and American mother is just like every other Democratic candidate?

D- People are looking at Obama as though he has some deficiencies, when in reality all the chips were stacked against him. It is because he is so smart, hard working, visionary, and a true leader that he is WHERE HE IS.

I have spoken to MANY people in PA who were undecided. Mostly white and working class. Expect a blowout. And if nothing else- know that Obama's 50 State Strategy will help you learn the lesson that this is REAL.

evita: SPEAK!! Co-sign!!!!

I believe that any democrat-except for maybe Clinton and Obama-would have walked over just about any Republican. The political climate was THAT stacked against the GOP.

Being able to "close the deal" really isn't the issue it should be. Obama has the natural obstacles you mentioned, and McCain has the "benefit" of a not-that-supportive country and a not-that-enthusiastic base.

I don't expect a blowout, but I don't expect 2000 redux. It will be close. Problem is, McCain needs a clear and convincing-read, both the electoral AND popular vote-to win.

Something to think about: if this year's election ends up like 2000, the ruling from Bush v. Gore doesn't apply. That sets the stage for something even worse...especially if Obama comes down on the losing side.

D., even if McCain wins, he loses.

He has forever tarnished his supposed "maverick" legacy with this campaign he ran.

And even though there are many Americans who suscribe to the Republican/conservative view..and vote according to that...there are many others who will vote Mccain due to bigotry and misinformation---and McCain/Palin have gone out of their way to perpetuate and incite those reactions in people.

And that is what I hope will haunt him for the rest of his life.

Not to mention McCain's relationship with the press, i.e "The Straight-Talk Express".
That is now TOAST; I don't care how many barbeque cookouts he hosts.

....and that will be the lasting legacy of a McCain administration. No matter what he might do to benefit the country, he will be remembered for playing to some of the darkest elements of our society.

D:
I believe that any democrat-except for maybe Clinton and Obama-would have walked over just about any Republican. The political climate was THAT stacked against the GOP.
As your statement reads - "you believe". Well D., "believe this", Mr. Obama began his uphill climb as soon as he was BORN BLACK!
Annnnd, IMHO, McAncient saw the "handwriting on the wall" when "HIS FRIEND" billary -LOST
But, he tried to use the UN-VETTED ONEto make up for her and when he and the Repugs saw what real "VETTING" was, it was then that they realized that WHITE wasn't always right!
The fact that the Dems didn't experience an "easy race" was because of RACISM! Please don't dismiss this using the TEPID "natural obstacles!"
RACISM is a MAJOR OBSTACLE, which is why billary and the Repugs USED IT as a MAJOR PLATFORM! WE KNOW!

So, IFFF, "closing the deal" isn't the issue, what - in your opinion - IS?

GreenLady,

Preach! You better preach!

What's the issue as to what? Why Obama isn't up by 30-40 in the polls and this thing wasn't called months ago?

I'm sure racism plays its part. One thing the 2008 election cycle has taught me is that racism is still very much prevalent in our society, even if I don't always experience it (though I had an interesting experience at the Nat'l Press Club today).

Is racism the sole contributing factor to people supporting McCain, or will it be to a possible Obama loss? Not hardly. Color me somewhat pessimistic, but I'd like to think that there's more people who don't like his policies than don't like his skin color.

D., I disagree. Yes, there are people who disagree with Obama's policies...but there are even more who disagree with how Bush and the Republican majority for six years have defecated all over our government and will leave it in shambles for their successor to clean up.

Republicans have always ran on this us vs. them meme, painting Democrats as unpatriotic and as anti-American liberals. And for the most part, half of Americans have rejected that, considering the last two close elections.

The difference this year is that not only do we have a Democratic candidate whose philosophy is different than Repubs, like our other Democratic candidates before.....but we have a historic selection of the first bi-racial man whose name is Barack Hussein Obama, who is running in a post 9/11 era.

Those internet e-mails were damaging...let's be honest. They played off fear. They painted Michelle as this radical black woman. Obama's opponents were so desperate that they painted receiving a quality education and receiving high honors as an insult..calling him "elitist" ( I still don't understand how a good education is viewed as demeaning quality).

The media repeatedly told us Americans just can't relate to him...and D., you know what that was code for...he's black. Be honest. We all as black/minority people, no matter your philosophy, has had to deal with being a spectacle (the "interesting" or "fascinating" black person at work or school) I know I have. Many whites do not have a clue about our experience or culture, assume we're monolithic and that our lives play out like the dysfunctional ways black people are portrayed on tv and other media.

Obama has been portrayed relentlessly as un-American, ranging from flag pins to not holding his hand over his heart during the National Anthem, which you are not required to do, btw.

Even you are admitting that you experienced an "interesting" time at the National Press Club today...Obama's hope just to be able to run for this office has brought out the worst in people on all sides...but that just lets us know that those feelings were present in those people all along.

The interesting thing is that MLKing, Jr. was also called a "communist", was jailed, threatened, a had a smear campaign run against him by the highest law enforcement official in the country during that time--J. Edgar Hoover. We have seen the same despicable behavior before in a different era---and so it is sad to think that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Actually, I think there is a law that says you have to render some sort of honors when the national anthem is played. But why that became an issue, I'm not sure....well, yeah I am.

I spent a good portion of my early adult years in the military. And racism exists there...but I can say, at least where I served, skin color didn't matter when it was time to get the job done. So I thought that was how the world worked.

Of the liberals that I know-you and some others here excepted-most of them belong to the "blame America first" camp. That strikes me as both unpatriotic AND anti-American. Yes, we have our problems, but those problems were here long before Bush.

I'm still on mailing lists for a lot of those emails. As time's gone on, they have become more frantic and more visceral. So much for a race decided on issues instead of race.

...About the protocol for the anthem, I still can't find anything official. Now you know when they play it on the bases in the evening, most people, including myself, stop and stand at attention until the anthem is done. I very seldom see people place their hands over their hearts...but it may be different in other circumstances, ie if a flag is present.

I will agree, military members in general "get along" better than society overall, mostly for the sake of doing their job collectively that they all will be responsible for . But I will tell you something interesting. Because of my husband's rank, there tends not to be many black/minority wives in my community where I live. I have seen some of my neighbors pratically ignore our existence and one woman even fails to look up when we are outside together. however, our white neighbore, who moved in after us, were greeted almost immediately by that same family. And it is quite baffling, because I have probably more in common with that woman since both of our husbands serve as opposed to another citizen on the street. And may heart would hurt just the same if her loved one was hurt jus the same as mine.

I think a lot of people (maybe some of those liberals you know) are cynical. Even now, I sit in amazement that Cheney promised $1 billion in aid to the country of Georgia, yet the Bush admin. actually argued that the new GI bill may prove to be too expensive or that we can't provide some relief to homeowners who are ready to foreclose and why New Orleans still looks virtually in ruins in some parts (mostly the black parts).

I do wonder why so often this country has massive amounts of money for war, even borrowing from communist China, while some Americans and citizens in countries like Haiti in our backyard starve.

Republicans with their "so-called family values" are often revealed as the biggest hypocrites. And I really think Americans do not want religious ideology serving as the backdrop for our governing. Republicans don't want government to tax them for programs that overall build our infrastructure, but they love to determine your social limitations based on their intepretation of religion.

I saw the funniest bumper sticker on a base recently. It said REPUBLICAN: Because everyone can't be on welfare.

Now if you're a vet, retired, or work for the government, you ARE living in a socialized environment. Your pay, healthcare,and other amenities are paid for with taxpayer dollars. I just shook my head--the hypocrisy

D:
O.K. Past the issue. Just interesting that you had to LEARN about the prevalence of RACISM from this election. I may NOT experience it daily, BUT I am sensitive to its effect on policy decisions made at the local level, and in hiring and firing practices. These affect me and my family too. So, I'm always ON GUARD!

Sooo, what was YOUR EXPERIENCE at the Nat'l Press Club today?

Showed up at a press conference, and an employee of the Club asked me who I was providing security for.

How he came to that conclusion, I have no idea.

D:
How he came to that conclusion, I have no idea.

2 RESPONSES:
1.Did you walk in there BLACK? 1st CLUE!
2. They could have asked you if you had your own broom/mop/bucket; and showed you the custodian's corner. That would have been a CLUE too. :>)

O.K.

I got your JOKE - I HAVE NO IDEA. . . :>)

LOL.

I gave him my VFF card, and he apologized. Didn't make any more of it after that.

Preach.

Evita:
You have to put it in terms s can understand:

"Why can't McCain close the deal?"
;-)

ok

S,
Why can't McCain close the deal?

evita

Why hasn't McCain ever been able to get over 50%, even with the addition of Palin?

Of course it wasn't an answer, it was a question...hence the question mark.
McCain is still standing because the media wants him to be. Period.

Obviously we are on different sides of the aisle. I understand that you want McCain to win and if coming to JJP and parroting what you hear helps you in your quest to make McCain the next president, then cool. The polls will tighten from now until Nov. 4th, but you can't deny that McCain is having to defend very Red states. As Rachel would say, he's defending his goal line.

I guess I could ask you the very same question: Why can't McCain close the deal with the very Red areas of this country? Why is he down in the polls? Why does he have to defend Montana, Virginia, and maybe even Arizona. What is it about John McCain that we don't know? (cue the scary music... AND SCENE!)

Here's some scarry music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMnk7lh9M3o

Co-sign

Believe what you will, but do you know any undecided voters? Do you know anyone who pretends to be undecided or support Obama but will actually vote for McCain? I do.

Do ou know anyone who makes over $250,000 who is concerned about Obama's tax plan? I do.

Do you know any self-employed or small business owners who fear that raising taxes on their customers will cause them to suffer economically? I do.

Do you know any individuals who are concerned about the ideological undertones of a politician who talks more about 'economic justice' and 'redistributive change' than 'individual freedom' and 'opportunity.'? I do.

Do you know any voters who see the bailout as the last straw and do not want to see the government in charge and take on a greater role in the private sector? I do.

Do you know anyone who has seen how one-party rule corrupted many Republicans and saw George Bush rubber stamp any and all spending that crossed his desk because his party proposed it, and does not believe that the Democrats will be able to restrain themselves? I do.

Do you know anyone who would LOVE to see the media eat crow and watch Rachel Maddow, et al left speechless? I do.

So while you color your electoral map blue, you might what to think about that of which you do not know...

Good luck.

So you know a bunch of white people who are too cowardly to admit their racism. So you know a bunch of narrow-minded trogs who want to vote their bigotry.

Why bother to come here and boast about it? You're obviously not taken seriously. You're mocked and ridiculed for good cause. And you're not going to change one mind here. Not one.

So really ... what's your purpose?

I can answer that one!!! s has no friends in reality and if it doesn't get feedback here, no telling what will happen. Consider responding as part of your charity work.

Miranda: Can I get a "TAX WRITE-OFF?"

Just askin' . . . . . . :>)

Same old tired false argument. As I pointed out before, this is the same garbage Republicans said in 1993 when Clinton had the same tax program. Once again let me refresh you what the Republican said:

“I believe this will lead to a recession next year. This is the Democrat machine’s recession, and each one of them will be held personably accountable.”
- Newt Gingrich, August 5, 1993


“The Clinton plan is a one-way ticket to recession. This plan does not reduce the deficit, but it raises taxes and it puts people out of work.”
-Senator Phil Gramm, July 28,1993


“This plan will not work. If it was to work then I’d have to become a Democrat and believe that more taxes and bigger government was the answer"
- Representative John Kasich R-OH July 28, 1993

Now history shows that every Republican in Congress voted against this and Al Gore broke the tie with his vote. So what do you think happened after 1993, with Clinton's tax raise on the top 2% of taxpayers? First of all Clinton's presidency was marked by a gradual reduction in budget deficits leading to four years of large surpluses and a tremendous growth of the economy. Job growth and wages under Clinton at this time was also tremendous. Compare that with George Bush's presidency. Under President Bush we have seen a have seen record budget deficits. So if history can be an indicator of possible future outcomes, then you are way off base. Nice try.

S, what do you hope to gain here? Are you trying to get us to vote for McCain or just see things your way. Maybe you should just go back over to Drudge, etc and help McCain DEFEND HIS GOAL LINE. You are being very complacent, wasting time talking to us. McCain needs help in Montana, Arizona, Virginia, North Carolina, and yes PENNSYLVANIA.
And yes, I do know self-employed people and people who make well over $250,000 that ALREADY VOTED FOR OBAMA...now what? Your move...

You can't haz electoral college?

Oh, here's an excerpt from from the Yale Daily News in which Republican Congressman Chris Shays of Conneticut is offering his view:



NEW CANAAN, Conn. — The first ballot has yet to be tallied, but some Republicans are already hammering nails into the McCain-Palin campaign’s coffin.

Locked in a tight congressional race, Rep. Chris Shays of Connecticut’s 4th district is the latest in a slew of Republican incumbents, including Sen. Elizabeth Dole of North Carolina, to concede a near-certain victory to the Obama camp.

“I just don’t see how [McCain] can win,” Shays said in an interview here on Sunday.

Shays, the Connecticut co-chair of McCain’s campaign, said he was disappointed by the standards of McCain’s race, which has increasingly relied on mudslinging.

“He has lost his brand as a maverick; he did not live up to his pledge to fight a clean campaign,” Shays said.....

Shays laid much of the blame on the far right, which, he said, has “hijacked” the Republican Party, threatening to walk out if its demand are not met — despite being in the minority.

Pretty much.

The change we can always believe in: "I'll run a honorable campaign...until I start losing."

"then it's Sarah bar the door"
;-) (WINK)

Admiral: LOL! :>) :>) GOOD ONE!! :>)

Shut up. It's already bad enough.

;)

D:
The OPERATIVE WORD IS - VET!!

Annnnnd, that's NOT a reference to YOU or the animal doctor! O.K. :>)

...just trying to help you out... :-)

Do you know anyone whis is absolutely disgusted with the indecency coming from the McCain campaign tactics? I do.

Colin Powell is one of them who so eloquently voiced his insight for the world to see.

Do you know of anyone who is disappointed with John McCain's judgment in picking Sarah Palin? I do.

Apparently, most prominent conservative authors do also. Even his own aides are accusing her of going rogue and called her a "whack" job.

Do you know of any armed service members, who sacrifice much but are paid little, tired of the warmongers that have led them needlessly into battle, and yet underfund the Veteran Affairs---and have our injured troops come home to deplorable conditions at Walter Reed Medical Center? I do. And they know John McCain is full of shyt when it comes to VETS, asks IAVA or DAV or VFW--they know.

Do you know anyone who knows that Republicans will continue to stagnate wages, run up more record deficits, continue to give tax breaks to wealthy companies (which btw they don't reinvest since we have the slowest job growth since Kennedy's admin. 40 YEARS ago) and know that their economic policies DON'T WORK. That is why McCain calls for less regualtion one day....then asks the government to pay off mortgages the next. He has no grasp on the matter at all and cannot stay on message.

Do you know of conservatives who are pissed that a 72 year old 4x melanoma survivor chose to pick a VP nominee as a candidate after speaking to her after a total of 2 times.....who most Americans now view very unfavorable and most scholars say is the most unqualified candidate in history? I do.

While, as in your own words claimed Bush rubber stamped all that spending,--John McCain was his sidekick, voting with him 90% of the time this year alone.

Do you see that in the majority of McCain rallies, he barely draws a beautiful, diverse crowd....instead many of his supporters are misinformed, bigots, and use Obama's name as a slur. Are you proud to be included in that number?

Do you know anyone who is embarassed that Palin, with all her air-headedness, got on televison and winked during a vice-presidential a number of times while the world looked on?

Do you know of anyone who questions the temperant of a reportedly hot-headed candidate like John McCain, who is so contemptuous, he could not even look Obama in the eye during the first two debates and made faces like a 7-year old in the last one. And you call that leadership? Where is the maturity?

Monie: SPEAK!! :>)

Hyporcisy strikes again. "s", you are here demanding "an answer" and yet you never answered MY questions, repeated three times in different threads, about your income, profession, professional training and region you live in. These questions were a response to you making ungrounded deceptive arguments about taxes and called on you to be real. You chose to not do so.

As far as I'm concerned, "s" -- given your actions on this site, you're a one-dimensional ungrounded fake character someone is playing and not an actual human being. For that reason, your request for an answer as if you are a real grounded being in a real discussion is just another act of hypocrisy from you. But then again, hypocrisy and deception is your entire gig here, now isn't it.

INDEED!!!

GET AT HIM MICHELLE!!!!

rikyrah: Yesterday, I posted the [somewhat TEPID] reaction of "the AUTHORITIES" in the case of the skinheads. This article reveals some of their MYSPACE postings. So NOW i as "the AUTHORITIES:, even considering their 1st Amendment rights, do ya think that these young men were not capable of further criminal behaviors had they NOT BEEN CAUGHT??

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/28/cbsne...

"Skinheads" Reveal All On Web, CBS News Investigates: Web Postings Expose Racist Ideals Of Men Accused Of Plotting Killing Spree

Personal Internet pages and web postings provide a disturbing glimpse into the racist minds of the two self-described "skinheads" who were allegedly plotting to carry out a mass killing spree that included beheading African-Americans and assassinating presidential candidate Barack Obama.

Yesterday, federal investigators announced the arrests of 20-year-old Daniel Cowart of Bells, Tenn., and 18-year-old Paul Schlesselman of West Helena, Ark., who were driving around in a car painted with swastikas and other white supremacist slogans while in possession of five stolen guns. Authorities are skeptical the men were a threat. They say there is no evidence of them actually trying to carry out an assassination, but during questioning the men allegedly told investigators they were preparing to kill 88 people "targeting a predominately African-American school, going state to state while robbing individuals and continuing to kill people." The men also allegedly said they wanted to “drive their vehicle as fast as they could towards Obama shooting him from the windows” while dressed in “all white tuxedos” and wearing “top hats.”

While the alleged plot may never have been carried out, both men have their own Myspace pages where they make a series of racist assertions and proudly tote their guns.

On his MySpace page, Schlesselman lists his occupation as “being racist” and writes “I’m white. I’m proud. I get angry. I like guns. I like weapons. I need money wiggers…be afraid.” "Wiggers" is a derogatory slang term used to describe a white person who emulates stereotypical mannerisms of African-Americans. He also posted a homemade video on MySpace in which he appears to be mocking "wiggers" and African-Americans.

He last logged onto his MySpace page on October 20 the same day, investigators say, Cowart traveled from Tennessee to Arkansas to meet with him and begin the alleged killing spree. On that day, Schlesselman listed his mood as “creative.”

Schlesselman also lists his cell phone number on his MySpace page. CBS News called the number. His voicemail first plays what sounds like a racist country song. Then, Schlesselman leaves a disturbing rant filled with profanities and racial slurs against African-Americans. He ends the message saying “white power.”

THERE IS MORE

Note the use of the term "WIGGERS!" THESE people are EVIL CRIMINALS!!

Sooo, "AUTHORITIES", TAKE THIS AS SERIOUSLY AS IT IS!!!


Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Gotta bounce! Obama-Biden WORK!!! Yaaaaaaa! L8R!

From Andrew Sullivan:

From an anti-T.R. letter to the editor of the New York Times in 1908:

" Moreover, most of the Rooseveltian policies - the arid land reclamation schemes, the National forests, the leasing of coal and mineral rights, the renting of grazing lands, the construction of the Panama Canal by direct employment, the development of water powers under public ownership and control - are in strict harmony with Socialist principles....The faith of our forefathers in the sacred principle of competition as the self-acting force which yielded ideal justice and rendered to every man according to his deserts, has departed as surely as the belief in witchcraft. [Socialists] can't threaten me worse than Theodore Roosevelt does with his inheritance and income tax schemes and the social workers of New York with their ever-increasing demands on the city budget."

Teddy Roosevelt is McCain's favorite president.

History is a beyotch isn't it? So much for "socialism"....

rikyrah: Oh! No! Not that ETHICS STUFF, AGAIN! :>) :>)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/palin-...
Palin Target Of New Ethics Complaint Over Travel

Alaska Governor and Republican Vice President hopeful Sarah Palin may be facing another round of scrutiny, this time for charging the state for her children to travel with her while conducing official state business.

CBS News has obtained a copy of the complaint that Frank Gwartney, a retired lineman in Anchorage filed last Friday, with Alaska's Attorney General, Talis Colber in Juneau. "Palin ran on the platform of ethics, transparency and anti-corruption. I'm tired of the hypocrisy that exists in Government and people need to know the truth," said Gwartney.

Read the whole story here.
HERE'S SOME MORE.

The complaint against Governor Palin, alleges Misuse of Official Position: “Gov. Palin attempted to and in fact did use her official position for personal gain by securing unwarranted benefits for her daughters...” All the allegations contained in the complaint are related to state reimbursed travel.

In Alaska, ethics complaints filed against the Governor are confidential. “We can neither confirm nor refute that a complaint has been filed against Governor Sarah Palin. Any complaint remains confidential unless the person being charged waives confidentiality or if the complaint progresses to the state of probable cause,” Assistant District Attorney, Dave Jones told CBS News.

Bristol, Piper and Willow, Palin’s daughters, accrued $32,629 in travel expenses while Palin’s husband Todd raked up $22,174 - all billed to the state for a total of $54,803.00.

“The Governor’s office has expended $54,803.00 in Alaska state dollars for family travel since December 2006,” according to the Governor’s Administrative Services Director, Linda Perez. “The documentation related to family travel has changed and you have to keep in mind that the governor and her family are very popular,” added Perez.


Annnnnd, what YOU have to UNDERSTAND, Ms. Linda Perez, is that ONLY The UN-VETTED ONE is running for office; NOT the WHOLE FREAKIN' FAMILY!!! Geeeeez!!!

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

rikyrah: From Huffpost:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/obamas...
Obama's Prime Time TV Commercial: A Preview

***UPDATE*** The Obama campaign provided the New York Times with a one minute trailer of the half hour infomercial:

Mr. Obama's campaign agreed to provide The New York Times with a minute-long trailer for the 30-minute program, which is to run on four broadcast networks at 8 p.m. It will be the first time in 16 years that a presidential candidate has bought network time, in prime time, for a prolonged campaign commercial.


The trailer is heavy in strings, flags, presidential imagery and some Americana filmed by Davis Guggenheim, whose father was the campaign documentarian of Robert F. Kennedy. As the screen flashes scenes of suburban lawns, a freight train and Mr. Obama seated at a kitchen table with a group of white, apparently working-class voters, Mr. Obama says: "We've seen over the last eight years how decisions by a president can have a profound effect on the course of history and on American lives; much that's wrong with our country goes back even farther than that."

Then, while standing before a stately desk and an American flag, Mr. Obama, in a suit, says: "We've been talking about the same problems for decades and nothing is ever done to solve them. For the past 20 months, I've traveled the length of this country, and Michelle and I have met so many Americans who are looking for real and lasting change that makes a difference in their lives."

THERE IS MORE

Got my "popcorn", "GREEN Tea" and "my fingers limbered up!" :>)

I'm FIRED UP! READY TO GO!!

Obama-Biden '08!! TRUST

In an environment where the Democrats have enormous advantages. If months and months of the media and Obama advertising telling you "This is the greatest guy ever" can't nudge you from undecided, you just don't want to vote for the guy and don't want to say so.

This infomercial will not move voters to Obama. He is overhyped, oversold and overestimated.

Enjoy your kool-aid.

Looks like indie-ed is catchin' the vapors too...

Aww, you mad cuz McCain can't haz commercial too?

Mad because McCain ain't have the doe for the air time. When was the last time you heard of the Republicans running short on campaign funds? That oughta tell you something. LOL

-er, -um. I'm having GREEN TEA! Have some? NEGATIVE 1

remember this come 2016 when this country's back on track. fortunately, you naysayers will also benefit from a responsible, intelligent, thoughtful, competent, capable administration. i don't begrudge you that. happy for all americans to do well. just remember . . .

oh, and enjoy your crow come Tuesday . . . need a fork?

oops. that was me: and i claim it. :-)

Early Voting Avalanche

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/early-...


From the ABC/Washington Post tracking poll:

More than twelve million voters have already cast ballots in the presidential contest, according to one estimate, and new data from the Washington Post-ABC News tracking poll shows these voters breaking Democratic by a wide margin.

Among those who said they have already voted at an early voting location or sent in an absentee ballot, Barack Obama picked up 60 percent of the vote in the new poll to John McCain's 39 percent.

These voters make up 9 percent of "likely" voters in the track.

The senator from Illinois has a similar lead, 58 to 39 percent, among those who plan to vote early but have not yet. (Those who plan to vote on Election Day also go for Obama, but by a narrower, 51 to 45 percent.)


From Gallup:

The voter preferences of the group of 1,430 individuals who have already voted and who were interviewed by Gallup between Oct. 17 and Oct. 27 show a 53% to 43% Obama over McCain tilt.

Among the group of those who say they have not yet voted, but will before Election Day, the skew towards Obama is more pronounced, at 54% to 40%. By comparison, those who are going to wait to vote on Nov. 4 manifest a narrower 50% to 44% Obama over McCain candidate preference. (Across all registered voters over this time period, Obama leads McCain by a 51% to 43% margin).


From CNN:

As of Tuesday, at least 9,813,052 ballots had been cast in 31 states that allow early, in-person or absentee voting without having to provide an excuse. The figures are based on reports from state election officials.

Of those votes, at least 1.2 million ballots have been cast by registered Democrats and at least 731,200 by registered Republicans.

As with early voting statistics in every state -- these are not election results. Voters who are registered with a political party don't always vote for that party's candidates.

But the numbers suggest that this election is shattering traditional early voting patterns reflected by years of data. Historically, more Republicans than Democrats have taken part in early voting.

It's over. Stay home.

More attempts by the MSM to suppress GOP turn out. This will have the opposite effect.

"It ain't over 'til it's over."

Let's hope all the Obama supporters take the day off of work to celebrate early and ...oops...blow off voting 'cause it's 'in the bag."

Suppress GOP turn out? Are you kidding me? Ok, I just caught the vapors.

You people and your sense of entitlement. If the shoe was on the other foot you would do the same thing as well.

Entitlement?

Hell yes, I am entitled to have a VOTE the counts!

I'll congratulate you Wednesday morning IF Obama wins.

You think McCain is entitled to win.

oh it's so hard not to feed the troll just a smidge . . .

HAHAHAHAHA!! "suppress GOP turnout" . . . that would be laughable if it wasn't such a fucking shame.

Co-signing that!

rikyrah: Found this bit of humor:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/tina-f...
Tina Fey: Sarah Palin Offered Ne Daughter Bristol For Babysitting (VIDEO)

According to Fey, when Sarah Palin ("she was nice") guested on "Saturday Night Live," she asked Fey where Alice had gone as the show approached. Fey told Conan:

"Gov. Palin was like, 'Oh did Alice go home? Oh, cause Bristol woulda babysat.' She offered Bristol Palin to babysit Alice... And it was Bristol's birthday, too. I was like yeah, that's exactly what 17-year-old Bristol Palin wants to do at SNL is babysit the toddler of the lady that gooks on her mom... but they're a nice family"

Also, Alice gets confused telling Sarah Palin and Tina Fey apart, and Fey let Alice watch

This is pure comedy! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Whenever a campaign talks publicly about its internal polls, that means they're aggressively desperate.

Yes. Stay home. It's over...start celebrating...by all means.

Obama Memo: Race is Tightening in Battleground States

http://bourbonroom.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/29...

In a phone interview with FOX News, Barack Obama’s deputy campaign manager, Steve Hildebrand said: “John McCain is right. Things are tightening in the battleground states.”

FOX News obtained a copy of a memo Hildebrand sent to long-standing Democratic operatives on Tuesday.

Don't you think that they are doing this to fight against complacency?

But if Obama's ground game is so vastly superior, if Obama's money is such a huge advantage, why is this even necessary?

Will the youth vote take off work, cut classes and skip getting out the vote to prematurely celebrate?

Obama has peaked. He has maxed out his support. Do you even KNOW any undecided voters?

I don't know...looks like a lot of them are voting for that Obama fella.

Complacency is always an issue with Democrats. Look at Clinton in 1996. Right before the election he was polling at 13% but whose win margin was 8%.

rikyrah: This comes under the heading - "No he di-int! :>)":

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/29/new-ob...
Obama Ad Goes After McCain/Using "Winking" Palin (VIDEO)

The Obama campaign is directing reporters to an ad it released Wednesday morning that goes at both John McCain's understanding of the economy and (somewhat unusually) his selection of Sarah Palin for V.P.

Titled "His Choice," the spot begins with quotes from McCain admitting his lack of economic know-how. The last one has McCain declaring, "I might have to rely on a vice president that I select" for expertise on economic issues.

"His choice?" the script (no narration) asks -- before cutting to footage of Palin winking at the vice presidential debate. "On November 4th, You Get to Make Yours."

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

YES HE DID!! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Black Sarah Palin Skit (Video)
http://current.com/items/89462020_black_sarah_p...

BarackMarley: She has a GREAT SMARMY/SNARKY/SARCASTIC VOICE!!

Good timing/delivery. Overall - - FUNNY! :>)

Thanks! :>) :>)

rikyrah: This was reported in Huffpost 2:

http://blackpoliticsontheweb.com/2008/10/29/ap-...
AP Poll: Obama Leads Or Tied In 8 Crucial States

October 29, 2008 · Print This Article

Barack Obama now leads in four states won by President Bush in 2004 and is essentially tied with John McCain in two other Republican red states, according to new AP-GfK battleground polling.

The results help explain why the Democrat is pressing his money and manpower advantages in a slew of traditionally GOP states, hoping not just for a win but a transcendent victory that remakes the nation’s political map. McCain is scrambling to defend states where he wouldn’t even be campaigning if the race were closer.

Less than a week before Election Day, the AP-GfK polls show Obama winning among early voters, favored on almost every issue, benefiting from the country’s sour mood and widely viewed as the winning candidate by voters in eight crucial states - Colorado, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Virginia.

SKIP

“People will vote for change, and Barack Obama represents that change,” said Gaylord, the GOP consultant in Virginia. Speaking of McCain, he said: “And try as he will - and he has - to be the candidate of change, he could not. He could not overcome the weight of George Bush’s failed policies.”

The AP-GfK Battleground State Poll was conducted from Oct. 22-26 in eight states. It involved interviews by landline telephone with likely voters in each state, ranging from 600 in Florida and New Hampshire to 628 in Nevada. The margin of sampling error was plus or minus 3.9 percentage points in Colorado and Nevada, and 4 points in the other states.

RON FOURNIER and TREVOR TOMPSON, AP

GREAT NEWS! But, I'm going to WORK 'til the END!! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Naw. It's over. Stay home. Celebrate early.

Does anyone mind explaining how the arrows and point system works on the JJP Disqus comments sections? (Or directing me to a site FAQ with the answer?) Is it similar to the DailyKos recommend system? What are the benefits, drawbacks, etc? Thanks....

I'll second that request.

My understanding is that if someone says something that you like/agree with, you give them a point. The opposite if someone says something that you dislike/disagree with.

Hence, the "conservative wing" of JJP is resigned to a permanent negative status. But who's complaining?

A friend of mine who uses it on his site gives a guest post spot to whoever accumulates the most points in a month (and yeah, he has WAY too much time on his hands to keep track of that).

This thread has taken a lot of twists and turns since I posted my original query! Still, thanks for taking the time to explain the points system, D. This is helpful.

Awww D, I don't agree with you MOST times but I'll give you a point up!

.Hence, the "conservative wing" of JJP is resigned to a permanent negative status. But who's complaining?
That's your party's future (Permanent negative status)LOL

LOL.

Okay, that was funny.

Change is coming....I have to keep telling myself that.

and the majority of democrats (even us socialist sympathizers) won't begrudge you one moment of the better times that will ultimately arise out of a properly run, efficient, intelligent, capable administration. truly. ;-)

Let me know how it's going when the successful hard-working folks who own a home, have been saving and investing, having seen their assets decline, face a greater tax burden and now layoff sitters, tutors, coaches, stop eating out, stop hiring landscapers and handymen, put off decorating or home improvements, causing a single mom with her own interior design business or the self-employed carpenter, lose business vital to their economic security, all to pay Uncle Sam.

Will they be satisfied with a one-time check, secure in the notion that the 'rich' are finally 'sacrificing' and 'giving their fair share'?

If not, they can look forward to extended unemployment benefits and government run healthcare.

Happy days are here again!?

Not again, s. Not again with you pretending to speak for groups without coming clean about the lived reality of your OWN life.

You will name all sorts of hypothetical groups but not tell us about your actual lived reality, s. Despite me asking you three times directly in discussions you continues to be active in -- but sdidn't answer anything abut reality, now did you?

What is your annual income?

What is your profession?

What training (and I'll add, licensing if needed) do you have for your profession?

What region of the country do you live in?

In another thread you also claimed to speak for bot h business owners and employees. Which are you, s? Either? Both?

Your soul is rotted with deception like a terminal disease, sweetie. I can smell it from here.

No "better times" for us....next Tuesday is our moment at Thermopylae. And I don't see it going too well.

Come 1/21, should Obama win, us conservatives will suck it up, and (hopefully) get to righting our ship before we try to right anyone else's.

And, oddly enough, should McCain win, we'll still have our internal issues to worry about.

My friend, with everything else that's going on, if that's the biggest thing I have to complain about, life must be pretty damn good.

:)

Actually, my friend, I'm not confused.....just running in circles along with you.

:)

You mean you're not gonna accompany me? My friend, it's no fun by myself.

I'm sure you have some more snide remarks to make, since you don't seem to have much else to do.

:)

D,

I sure do. It just fun to poke at you with my ...gotcha moments!

Just kidding! Umm...no I'm not!

You know what.....negative 1 for you.

It's time we conservatives fought back.

Hey D., I heard Obama had about 22,000 at Harbor Park in Norfolk last night. I might have missed it, but you never told us how Newport News turned out. Did you go to either?

I tried to make Newport News; woke up about 8:30, got there, couldn't see anything cause the park was already filled, and left. Must've thought I was going to a McCain rally, cause when I showed up for his, me and my son just kinda walked in.

Didn't make Harbor Park; I don't get back to Norfolk until about 9 at night as it is. My sister went to see him in Harrisonburg last night.

And I can't make VA Beach on Thursday, cause I'll still be at work. I saw Biden in VA Beach once; that will probably be all I see of the democratic ticket before Tuesday.

Here is a beautiful video of images of American Obama Supporters abroad with some images of supporters here in the US as well.

http://blip.tv/file/1338283

Enjoy!!

The Cuban American National Foundation. backing Obama?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

rikyrah:

Both presidential candidates have made clear that they want to help the Cuban people achieve freedom. But Barack Obama's forward-looking and proactive approach toward empowering the Cuban people is more in line with these proposals than John McCain's vow to continue the Bush administration's policy.

Looks like it. :>) Hoping so!

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Be on the lookout....the Rethuglicans will stop at nothing:

As the election nears, examples of political dirty tricks are emerging with greater frequency.

On Tuesday, the Virginia Pilot reported that a phony Board of Elections flier was circulating the state "advising Republicans to vote on Nov. 4 and Democrats on Nov. 5." Voting, of course, is on the 4th only, creating fear among neutral observers and the Obama campaign that people were simply going to miss the opportunity to go to the polls.

Earlier this month, meanwhile, an anonymous flier was circulating in predominantly African-American neighborhoods in Philadelphia telling voters they could be arrested at the polls if they show up to vote with outstanding arrest warrants or unpaid parking tickets. This is also untrue.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/28/as-ele...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw

Paul Weyrich's Campaign Plan, followed for 30+ years.

Rassmussen has McCain narrowing the gap to 3.

The 2001 audio of Obama and his philosophy of 'economic justice' through 'redistributive change' isn't going over well with plain spoken people like Joe the Plumber and Tito the Builder. Condescension among Democrats towards the very voters who will swing this election, politically motivated investigations into the backgrounds of citizens to discredit criticism and aversion tough questioning foretell the coming of the 'Chicago Way' . Not exactly the 'new politics' swing voters have in mind.

Biden's assurance that Obama will be tested by an international crisis, Sarkozy's comments that Obama's Iran policy is 'arrogant', and the news that the LAT is suppressing a video of Obama toasting his friend, PLO sympathizer Rashid Khaladi, at an event steeped in anti-Israel sentiment. Barney Frank's desire to cut miliary spending 25% Not exactly reassuring to those moderate Dems who favor a strong national defense, support the war on terror and the robust defense of Israel.

The WaPo, is taking note of the Obama campaign's shady donations and the deactivation of the address verifiation system used to identify fraud and the allowing of pre-paid credit cards to make on-line donations. Not exactly the transparency we were promised.

Hmmm. Makes one wonder if this is really the 'change we need.'

Same lame McCain talking points, different day.

BTW s, have you donated to JJP's fundraising drive yet?

S is in denial.....just refuses to go on to the next step in the grieving process. I'm sure on Nov 5th, it'll still be posting nonsense as if its August 29th.

They are not lame. These themes are resonating with voters.

Bury your head in the sand, put the champagne on ice, and don't forget to bring your photo id, not to vote, but to get into the big Obama rally in Chitown.

OH yeah, I'm from the Chy, I wish I was still there, cause I'd be going too! My Bestfriend is going to Common's shindig! I'm so jealous! Party on, and don't worry, we'll skip the Champagne and have some haterade on ice for you!

You must be reading the newspapers and the polls in your dreams again, s. Nobody's talking about Rashid Khaladi or Iran or Joe the (fake) Plumber or the cuts in military spending (which McCain himself has said he would do). They're worried about the failing economy, their jobs, the education of their children, energy, and all of the things that are kicking everyone's behind regardless of ideology. Obama's been hammering his plans in the heads of voters on the stump; McCain is still talking about poor Joe the Plumber and the wonderfully faux plan to give your paychecks to hobos, homeboys, and homos. And it ain't working.

BTW s, have you donated to JJP's fundraising drive yet?

Now you guys just lie with impunity. Here you are distorting the man's words. Have you no shame or decency?

What do you mean distort the man's words?

No. No he/she doesn't!

The NATIONAL poll doesn't mean much (See: Bush vs Gore). Let's remember that what counts are the states

State polls always lag behind the national polling.

Let some of the polls lag. It's the electoral votes that matter, and in the states NEEDED to win, Obama is leading. The national polls don't tell the story, but websites like FiveThirtyEight.com don't just rely upon national polls.

BTW s, have you donated to JJP's fundrasing drive yet?

Great. Let's just call it now.

Most voters think the media is in the tank for Obama. Most voters don't appreciate that the elction is over BEFORE they have had a chance to vote, and many voters I know would just love to 'stick it to the media and the pollsters' by not responding accurately or at all to their polls.

So now you can't vote for McCain on the issues and a superior campaign platform, you're left with voting for him on to spite the media. Now you're really reaching s!

Don't forget JJP's fundraising drive for Barack Obama, btw.

The media in the tank with Obama? The same media that has been repeating the stupid canard that Obama is a socialist without giving any historical context. Moreover, it is not the media that's saying the race is over. They are looking at the polls and Obama has consistently been ahead. The race has been rather stable. Now the Obama campaign has been counseling against complacency and not relying on the polls. They have been warning that tightening will occur. I am sure if McCain has been ahead for the past few weeks, you would be saying that the race is over. So spare me the hypocrisy.

Micheline: Major co-sign! :>) :>)

I love the way that "s" can speak for "most voters" from his/her living room. :>) :>)

If this is possible, we don't "need no stinkin' polls." Just let "s" speak! :>) :>)

Just love his/her delusions! :>) :>)

Again...see Bush vs Gore. We may as well just wait until next Wednesday to see what happens instead of arguing over polls. I will say that I do not wish your side luck, but I will wish you all well.

Look,

I have always been against higher taxes, big government and I support victory in Iraq. Yet, I wandered over here to see if Obama was a candidate I could support.

Obama and his supporters have pushed me towards McCain. I am not alone. I believe that undecideds will break for McCain.

I love you all's strawman of "I am for victory in Iraq" as if the rest of us are FOR defeat or something because we oppose your approach. And do not talk to me about bigger government when BUSH and the Republican controlled Congress (for 6 of his 8 years) has overseen the most MASSIVE government growth since LBJ. But that aside

Like I said, there is no sense arguing over the polls at this point. You can believe what you want as far as which way undecideds will break. We can discuss the reality next Wednesday...

Substitute "defeat" for "surrender;" that's a more accurate reflection of the sentiment.

You could have 'wandered' over to the Obama campaign website or to several non-partisan election sites to see if he was a candidate you could support. Your presence here at JJP is mostly to shyt-stir.

But if you're gonna stir, don't for get to sift either...sift a few dollars toward JJP's fundraisng drive.

Nate: LOL!! . . have you donated. . . :>) :>)

I noted: NO RESPONSE. :>) :>)

I was hoping to make that a closing theme of any response to s, indie-ed, Karmi, or any of our other lovably misguided trolls.

Everyone feel free to copy me as needed.

Alright, this is your one shot.

Let's get it over with early.

Nate:
THANK YOU! :>) :>) It's a GREAT closing line! :>) :>)

"s" hasn't taken the "HINT!" :>) :>)

ENOUGH!! :>)

And yet after you discovered Obama wasn't someone you could support, you stay.

Why?

What's the definition of "insanity" again?

Repeating the same stupid behaviors and expecting a different result. shaking my head!!!

Co-sign

Town: Co-sign. Annnnnd, I'm wearying, using my RATE DOWN ARROW. :>) But, I'll hang in there. :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

Town,

I don't believe it for one minute. A very sad excuse. From the beginning this person dropped in with talking points and cut and paste.

Wandered: BS
Considered Obama: BS
Pushed toward McCain: More BS

Talking about Obama and his supporters...look at the see of faces at his rallies Town...you see people that look like the real Americans in this country. But the other side has rallies that look and sound like a Klan meeting.

Give me a freakin' break.....! Spare me the song and dance story

Texas_Girl:
Nice summary. :>) Co-sign!

You did not answer my question. With respect to polling it was expected to tighten.

Great. Then put the champagne on ice.

How am I 'didtorting the man's words'?

See above

This is awesome. Woman paints Obama logo on her lawn when her sign was stolen.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/politics/Woman_pai...

i love it

Great link! JJP have the greatests links, I tell ya!

Aint no stopping us now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tox2PBP3mOg

Wow - my conservative neighbors would have a fit. Good for her. Very creative idea.

One of the local funeral chapels is owned and operated by a lady who has run for local offices here in my hometown. I guess seeing few Obama signs in around red-state Alabama led her to action, as there is a giant "Obama-Biden" sign painted on the front lawn of her facility, very noticable from the highway. Oh, and right across the street from the local National Guard Armory, which is one of our town's polling places. (If only it would have been right across county GOP headquarters, then this story would have been funnier.)

Now I'm inspired to get a picture of it before the rain gets to it.

Please get a picture if you can! I'd love to see it.

In today's Coon Network News, here's a clip from DL Hughley's CNN show. Where's the Drop Squad when you need them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJMTgTjXH0o

A woman is suing JC Penny because they told her to go elsewhere because they don't do black hair. We don't think about it, but the hairdressing industry is the most intentionally segregated business still in existence. What does it say that white professionals can intentionally not learn to deal with our hair?

I don't mean no harm, but why do black people insist on going to places like Hair Cuttery, JC Penneys, Dillards, etc. expect Molly Ann to do our hair and then get salty when she doesn't do it?

I mean, I don't see Laura Lee going up in "Kewl Kutz" or "Aunt Joyce's Hair Salon" to get their hair done.

Should Molly Ann be trained to do black hair? Yes.

Should Molly Ann HAVE to do black hair? No, not in my opinion.

If Molly and Susie don't want to deal with black hair, it's counterproductive to FORCE them to do black people's hair. Do we really want racists dealing with our hair? It's bad enough when Rashida wants to give you a "trim" aka lopping off 6+ inches of hair. We don't need Peggy Sue "accidentally" leaving the Affirm on too long or scorching our skin with the hot comb.

I have to wonder why a black person would want a white person doing their hair. I would be afraid that they'd screw it up. Fact is that the hair texture is different and I would not expect a white person to be able to do black hair the way a black person could.

When you go to beauty school you are taught to work on all different types and textures of hair. The excuse of not "knowing" how to do "black" hair is totally a cop out. I have actually had a white hair stylist do my hair, to which I have to admit I was slightly nervous. I'd received a gift certificate to a spa/salon and when I made my appointment didn't realize they had both black and white stylists there. The black stylists stared her down and one even came over trying to tell her how to do what she needed to do. She very politely told her that she went to school just like they did and knows what she is doing. By the time that she was finished they came over to reluctantly tell me that they liked what she had done.

Co-sign, legaldiva. My late twin sister Irene was a beautician. She went to school with diverse students, and they were all taught to MAKE IT WORK! I've gone to some of these cut and run shops like Great Clips, Master Cuts, etc.

These places hire diversity, so that whites don't have to deal with black hair. I went into one of these shops and was told to go to the Korean lady. "She knows how to do your type of hair." WTF?

The bottom line is, some white folk don't feel the need to learn anything about other ethnic groups, let alone blacks. Why should they acclimatize themselves to anything non-white?

I stand corrected. The women in my family have ALWAYS went to black women to have their hair done.

How many Dems feel like Wendy Button

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/...

Few, thankfully. Button was there for the writing gigs more than her own poltical beliefs, and that's perfectly okay. But she might want to come up with a new title other than "So Long Democrats", because it sounds as if she hang out with them rather than actually become one.

BTW, s, have you donated to JJP's fundraising drive yet?

Only got to read page one as the second page continued to get hung up and then not appear.

I think there are a few . I even go to a site to read the implosion of the pumas, remember them? There are still a handful of dissatisfied womyn who are finding a lot of convoluted reasons to back Palin. They have stopped posting the polls daily though. Some have even left in a huff until after the election. Most have posted that they cannot believe that feminists are seriously supporting McCain.

It has been a heck an election cycle. Shake out the dead root, I say.

So, you don't need voters like Wendy? Good luck with that.

And you wonder why Obama is buying infomercials and suddenly campaigning in blue jeans?

McCain will welcome the dead root with open arms.

If I'm to believe Button's own statements then she isn't exactly an undecided voter.

Obama is buying informercials because unlike John McCain, he's got 1) money and 2) a coherent message. If John McCain had either, along with not turning off voters with his smear-of-the-week against his opponent, he wouldn't be behind by so many tracking points.

And McCain should worry about his 'live root' because he's losing the moderate vote to Obama. We've heard many more stories about Republicans taking a chance on Obama than we have heard Democrats supporting McCain.

BTW s, have you donated to JJP's fundraising drive yet?

The cry of the puma. They don't need us. Classic victim stance. No one asked me for my vote. WTF. Be an adult, stop sobbing.

It amazes me how more fragil ideals are than egos.

Andrew Sullivan is taking a poll for the best viral videos of the election season. If you enjoyed the will.i.am video "Yes We Can" or the "Wassup 2008" - here's your chance to vote and give it an extra push before the election! There were a few I hadn't seen before, including the very funny one about "The Vet Who Did Not Vet."

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily...