Oh my goodness. Watching this clip I was like "something is different about this"...it's the fact that it's about mature conversations, where both sides were allowed to disagree, and the view could make their own determination. Wow, I really hope this style of news comes back. I am SO SICK of what we have right now.
fran
He wrote speeches for dub ya... WOW! The Dems don't take the threats in this world seriously? Wasn't Wolfowitz one of those threats?? Lets ask him about nuclear weapons, he's so truthful. Eight years of lies, eavesdropping on your own citizens, not patriotic if you question or disagree, feed the fear, we don't torture, etc.,etc. I guess it was only right wingers who died on 9/11, Afghanistan and Iraq. Ya, ya, that's it, that's why we don't take things seriously.
whatameye
Never once cut him off, never once raised her voice. Always clear and armed with the facts, she is great at being eloquent without complexity.
Frum doesn't even believe his own garbage. Next time Davey, instead of projecting your backwards machine's tactics onto Rachel, let the Rhodes scholar explain her skit to you. I hope he knows she's a doctor; just not that kind of doctor.
Justice58
"Maybe if he asks Rachel really nicely, she'll hand him his balls back. Or maybe he can just borrow one from Hillary".
New Rule: Thou shalt not mess with Dr. Rachel Maddow.
soulsistah02
Wow! Rachel Maddow landed a verbal Irish Catholic school slap to Frum's mouth! I'm sure after the "verbal dialliance" with Maddow, Frum spent an extra 15 minutes looking for his face.
It seems that the Republicans got drunk off of the Palin's, Coultier's, Malkin's and Hasselbeck's of this world to the point where they believed that EVERY white woman -- regardless of sexual orientation -- fit neatly into the "mother/whore" image of conservative women. Guess again...
Albatross
Thank you!! I've been looking for someone to post this.. My eyes about popped out of their sockets when he dared to call her juvenile because her discourse and delivery has more style and substance than most of these news hosts have in one of their Ferragamo loafers.
I'm so glad she finally got her own show! And while I enjoy Keith Olbermann, I adore Dr. Maddow because she doesn't shy from having guests on her show whose views are directly opposite of hers.
Sepia
All Hail The Maddow! She served him a hot bowl of "STFU" with a glass "Kiss My Ass" kool-aid.
Frum acted like a child who says, "But he did it too!" as a defense when he/she gets caught doing something wrong. So typical of the Rethugs. He knew there was nothing he could do to defend McCain and his camp's behavior.
BIGGIE_4_OBAMA
"Your small plate of signifigance" wow, thats arrogance at its best and she slapped him down hard
Town
So John Lewis calls out Obama, and the McCain people demand that OBAMA be held responsible and must apologize
but
if a mob screams KILL HIM! or OFF WITH HIS HEAD! McCain has nothing to do with that and shouldn't be held responsible for what somebody else said.
For once, I'd like to see Obama say "Hayle Naw I ain't apologizing for what {insert black person here} said. Go ask them for an apology." If you start apologizing once, they'll keep expecting you to do it.
Town
"So John Lewis calls out Obama" = "So John Lewis calls out McCain"
MsKitty
That ass kicking was truly a thing of beauty. Especially loved her point that aside from that chickie from the McCain campaign the Republican surrogates keep turning down her request to be on the show. That's because they know they're going to get they're asses handed to them like Frum.
But the piece de resistance was the next segment when Rachel flat out called Palin a liar. At the end of the show had to get off the couch and give Rachel a standing ovation. The woman is 20 kinds of brilliant.
And another fucking thing: He's sitting there, in all seriousness, insisting that if Rachel were serious she'd have Paul Wolfowitz come on her show to lecture her (no doubt in a condescending, rude, insulting manner) about foreign policy and nuclear issues? Paul Wolfowitz?? One of the idiots who led us into the disaster in Iraq? The one who used his position at the World Bank to reward his little tootsie? Please.
But what is SO offensive to me is the look on that fuckhead's face and his instant attack on Rachel. And remember, this is the guy who wrote that book about Bush: The Right Man. And HE is questioning HER judgment??
The arrogance. It's intolerable from these people.
The arrogance of the Republicans is absolutely stunning. That smug prick can sit there lecturing Rachel ~ all of us ~ about the dangers of a Democratic president and a Democratic Congress? Give me a fucking break. His smug condescension is almost unbearable to watch. I don't know how Rachel managed to get through that, because I sat here wanting to strangle that pompous, arrogant fuck. WHAT an asshole. Rachel is my hero.
And think about this: That is one of Bush's speechwriters. One of Bush's liars, because most of what has issued from Bush's mouth in the last four years? Lies. And he has the gall to sit there and lecture her, to lecture all of us about tone and about seriousness? Oh. My. Word. Unbelievable.
Justice58
Bell,
Exactly! That smug A-hole thought he was going to come on girlfriend's show and give her a beatdown. He got tricked! She straight-up molly whopped his @ss & did it so f-ing smooth! Boo Yah!
ahahahahaha...
Justice58
LOL
Rachel rolled his @ss & sent him packing! She rocks!
Miranda
He is so fifth grade. Rachel's show is his example of the bad discourse in America......the 4 week old show is the bad example....yeeeaahhhhh...rrrright.
"waaahhh! I dont wanna play anymore!"...yeah, now that your azz is being kicked.
Simply put, this dude got owned. She sonned him with little effort and deflected his (not so) subtle jabs with the finese of Ali. She exposed his little tactic, difused his aruments, and promptly dismissed him. If that is not ownage, then I don't know what is.
When I first heard that Rachel would be gettig her own show, I knew that she would have a liberal perspective and frankly I expected her to be Olberman lite (and I like Kieth). Oh how wrong I was! Some of these other Op Ed news shows could learn a lot from her. She showed that you can disagree with a guest with out shouting him/her down (I'm looking at you Poppa Bear O'Rielly), and end up looking like the better person for it. You go Rachel!
I think she was a little too defensive when she tried to justify her show's intentional sarcasm when she rightly addresses the outrageous ridiculous things Palin, etc. say in media clips on, how would you say, SERIOUS questions of the day.
I think she had a tough time keeping her exposure with Frum passive-aggressive, condenscending and arrogant attack. He was on his high-horse in a freakin' basement looking up to Rachel on the main floor with a looking down on her attitude. And I'm better than you attitude as he tried to claim a moral equivalence to the conservative nastiness and intolerance to any views that aren't and Rachel's calling bs for what it is bs and, by golly, she has the nerve to laugh at their stupid azzes thinking they can get by insulting our intelligence.
Yeah, she totally OWNED him. He was asking for it and she gave it to him. You're right that the other shows could take a few pointers. I think the difference with Rachel is that she can be both entertaining and logical at the same time. Certainly not the case witht the Hannitys and O'Reillys of the world.
A comment from a poster at Daily Kos about David Frum:
a f'ing coward to boot trying to get out of dealing w/the topic by turning it into an ad hominem attack against rachel! playing the daddyo w/the experience bragging about being in the middle east in the full of it looking for a solution when low and behold any jack ass can tell you it'll be the elliot abrams school of civil war since that's their specialty.
i was aghast while watching it, jumping from the couch to go email rachel.
what a self righteous gruesome pile of crap, what nerve. he should go into a back alley and screw kristol. all of them should be strung up and whipped ugly.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: Just watched it AGAIN. Not once did Dr. Rachel get rattled! She was smooth in "taking it to him!" He was an arrogant ____[so many nouns; so little space :>)]SOB, who kept trying to push an immovable wall [Dr. Rachel.] But, he didn't realize that it would take more than his brand of smarmy/snarky/sarcasm to do it!!
The punk "got "PUNKED!" :>) :>) That was FUN! :>)
Justice58
I absolutely love Rachel Maddow! She handles her business.
You know how some people, even big manly men act like pathetic little babies when they get sick (flu, etc.)... That's David Frum.
And it's so typical. When Republicans/conservatives fuck up, they want to whine about everybody else. They started all this caustic partisan partisanship sh*t and now that the stanky turd is going down in flames they want company to go with their misery.
And, really, after all these years of their politics of meanness... they want people to go easy and them and play nice. Now they want to call a truce... Man, they lucky Barack Obama ain't a brother like me...
Furthermore, Frum has absolutely no standing... He's from the party that's right now can't get focused on the issues.
Leota2
I love that Rachel did not let him get away with this back handed slight. Interesting that Republicans have been lobbing fire bombs in rhetoric for the last eight years and when they are finally being called on it--they insult the messenger who is being kinder than they should be . . . . Rachel is great! Also --love her quote in another segment that "letting Paul Wolfowitz run the agency looking for WMDs is like letting Cousin It give you a haircut . . . " LMAO!!!
Cecily Walker
Maddow, not Maddows. Thou shall not misspell the name of my future wife. :-D
In fact, here's a clip from one of his detractors:
"Let's be honest, Frum was invited on CBS because the producer knew he has expressed repeatedly his dislike of Palin. He represents a tiny fraction of conservatives but makes for good liberal TV."
He is weak, and tried to flex with Rachel, only to get pwned. Sorry to link to NRO, but it explains why Frum didn't just go on there and answer the questions--he was sucking up to his fellow wingnuts to show he's still one of them.
Maybe if he asks Rachel really nicely, she'll hand him his balls back. Or maybe he can just borrow one from Hillary.
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