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		<title>By: caligirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166920</link>
		<dc:creator>caligirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, some crazy stuff has  happened this  election season.  you never know...   :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166927</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed RonnieB</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166925</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nquest - my kids play soccer too, one is on the swim team, one likes horse back riding, and one plays lacrosse (don&#039;t ask. . . . -- it is just the neighborhood we live in) however, Sarah Palin doesn&#039;t speak for me as a woman at all.  Who the crap is Joe Six Pack?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We know what she was doing.  Playing ignorant to that fact means nothing.  I am constantly schooling the folks at my kids school (less than 2% black student body) about the value of diversity, explaining that as black kids especially my boys will have to have the best education, work harder, and strive to be 5 times smarter than white kids in order to be considered equal.   That is just the way life is at this point.  Maybe it will change in another decade or so but right now, that is where we are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ya&#039;ll know I don&#039;t push the black/white meme simply because I believe you are going to find ignorant assholes in every shape size and color but I am not dumb enough to not recognize we have a long way to go in race relations and I make it a point to have those conversations with the people I meet so they know that I know what time it is.  They don&#039;t play with me and they make an extra effort to ask questions and openly address any issues.  I have learned from them and they learn from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nquest &#8211; my kids play soccer too, one is on the swim team, one likes horse back riding, and one plays lacrosse (don&#39;t ask. . . . &#8212; it is just the neighborhood we live in) however, Sarah Palin doesn&#39;t speak for me as a woman at all.  Who the crap is Joe Six Pack?  </p>
<p>We know what she was doing.  Playing ignorant to that fact means nothing.  I am constantly schooling the folks at my kids school (less than 2% black student body) about the value of diversity, explaining that as black kids especially my boys will have to have the best education, work harder, and strive to be 5 times smarter than white kids in order to be considered equal.   That is just the way life is at this point.  Maybe it will change in another decade or so but right now, that is where we are.</p>
<p>Ya&#39;ll know I don&#39;t push the black/white meme simply because I believe you are going to find ignorant assholes in every shape size and color but I am not dumb enough to not recognize we have a long way to go in race relations and I make it a point to have those conversations with the people I meet so they know that I know what time it is.  They don&#39;t play with me and they make an extra effort to ask questions and openly address any issues.  I have learned from them and they learn from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166924</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder what it would take to convince John McCain to call for a commission to study 2% like James T. Harris. What in the world would possess any Black person with half-a-brain to vote for John McCain?&lt;br&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RAOTFLMAO!  Hysterical Nquest.  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder what it would take to convince John McCain to call for a commission to study 2% like James T. Harris. What in the world would possess any Black person with half-a-brain to vote for John McCain?<br />&#8220;</p>
<p>RAOTFLMAO!  Hysterical Nquest.  lol</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166923</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not touch it if I were Obama.  If Obama did that he would be getting into the sandbox with McCain.  McCain made this bed, let him lay in it all by himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wouldn&#039;t touch it so he could point the finger back at Obama citing him bringing race into the equation.  Nope.  McCain&#039;s mess.  Let him clean it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not touch it if I were Obama.  If Obama did that he would be getting into the sandbox with McCain.  McCain made this bed, let him lay in it all by himself.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#39;t touch it so he could point the finger back at Obama citing him bringing race into the equation.  Nope.  McCain&#39;s mess.  Let him clean it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-166921</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, it&#039;s a curious George doll with an Obama sticker on it. The fool realizes that he&#039;s being filmed and takes the sticker off put it in his pocket and shoves the doll to a kid in front of him.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to laugh Texas_Girl.  I say let them display their ignorance for everyone to see.  LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know probably peed his pants when he imagined his face all over the TV screen and having to pass by folks who could take issue with his actions on the street, at his job or in his neighborhood or (courtesy of youtube) when he is on travel in other states.  lol He is covering his a*s.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, it&#39;s a curious George doll with an Obama sticker on it. The fool realizes that he&#39;s being filmed and takes the sticker off put it in his pocket and shoves the doll to a kid in front of him.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to laugh Texas_Girl.  I say let them display their ignorance for everyone to see.  LOL</p>
<p>You know probably peed his pants when he imagined his face all over the TV screen and having to pass by folks who could take issue with his actions on the street, at his job or in his neighborhood or (courtesy of youtube) when he is on travel in other states.  lol He is covering his a*s.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 18:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth you ain&#039;t never lied.  LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did you see that grin?  Yep he should certainly be watched around young children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth you ain&#39;t never lied.  LOL</p>
<p>Did you see that grin?  Yep he should certainly be watched around young children.</p>
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		<title>By: caligirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-74002</link>
		<dc:creator>caligirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey, some crazy stuff has  happened this  election season.  you never know...   :-)</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73997</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agreed RonnieB</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73996</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 16:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol</description>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73994</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nquest - my kids play soccer too, one is on the swim team, one likes horse back riding, and one plays lacrosse (don&#039;t ask. . . . -- it is just the neighborhood we live in) however, Sarah Palin doesn&#039;t speak for me as a woman at all.  Who the crap is Joe Six Pack?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We know what she was doing.  Playing ignorant to that fact means nothing.  I am constantly schooling the folks at my kids school (less than 2% black student body) about the value of diversity, explaining that as black kids especially my boys will have to have the best education, work harder, and strive to be 5 times smarter than white kids in order to be considered equal.   That is just the way life is at this point.  Maybe it will change in another decade or so but right now, that is where we are.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ya&#039;ll know I don&#039;t push the black/white meme simply because I believe you are going to find ignorant assholes in every shape size and color but I am not dumb enough to not recognize we have a long way to go in race relations and I make it a point to have those conversations with the people I meet so they know that I know what time it is.  They don&#039;t play with me and they make an extra effort to ask questions and openly address any issues.  I have learned from them and they learn from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nquest &#8211; my kids play soccer too, one is on the swim team, one likes horse back riding, and one plays lacrosse (don&#39;t ask. . . . &#8212; it is just the neighborhood we live in) however, Sarah Palin doesn&#39;t speak for me as a woman at all.  Who the crap is Joe Six Pack?  </p>
<p>We know what she was doing.  Playing ignorant to that fact means nothing.  I am constantly schooling the folks at my kids school (less than 2% black student body) about the value of diversity, explaining that as black kids especially my boys will have to have the best education, work harder, and strive to be 5 times smarter than white kids in order to be considered equal.   That is just the way life is at this point.  Maybe it will change in another decade or so but right now, that is where we are.</p>
<p>Ya&#39;ll know I don&#39;t push the black/white meme simply because I believe you are going to find ignorant assholes in every shape size and color but I am not dumb enough to not recognize we have a long way to go in race relations and I make it a point to have those conversations with the people I meet so they know that I know what time it is.  They don&#39;t play with me and they make an extra effort to ask questions and openly address any issues.  I have learned from them and they learn from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73986</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I wonder what it would take to convince John McCain to call for a commission to study 2% like James T. Harris. What in the world would possess any Black person with half-a-brain to vote for John McCain?&lt;br&gt;&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RAOTFLMAO!  Hysterical Nquest.  lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I wonder what it would take to convince John McCain to call for a commission to study 2% like James T. Harris. What in the world would possess any Black person with half-a-brain to vote for John McCain?<br />&#8220;</p>
<p>RAOTFLMAO!  Hysterical Nquest.  lol</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not touch it if I were Obama.  If Obama did that he would be getting into the sandbox with McCain.  McCain made this bed, let him lay in it all by himself.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wouldn&#039;t touch it so he could point the finger back at Obama citing him bringing race into the equation.  Nope.  McCain&#039;s mess.  Let him clean it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not touch it if I were Obama.  If Obama did that he would be getting into the sandbox with McCain.  McCain made this bed, let him lay in it all by himself.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#39;t touch it so he could point the finger back at Obama citing him bringing race into the equation.  Nope.  McCain&#39;s mess.  Let him clean it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73979</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:23:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Actually, it&#039;s a curious George doll with an Obama sticker on it. The fool realizes that he&#039;s being filmed and takes the sticker off put it in his pocket and shoves the doll to a kid in front of him.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You have to laugh Texas_Girl.  I say let them display their ignorance for everyone to see.  LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You know probably peed his pants when he imagined his face all over the TV screen and having to pass by folks who could take issue with his actions on the street, at his job or in his neighborhood or (courtesy of youtube) when he is on travel in other states.  lol He is covering his a*s.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Actually, it&#39;s a curious George doll with an Obama sticker on it. The fool realizes that he&#39;s being filmed and takes the sticker off put it in his pocket and shoves the doll to a kid in front of him.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have to laugh Texas_Girl.  I say let them display their ignorance for everyone to see.  LOL</p>
<p>You know probably peed his pants when he imagined his face all over the TV screen and having to pass by folks who could take issue with his actions on the street, at his job or in his neighborhood or (courtesy of youtube) when he is on travel in other states.  lol He is covering his a*s.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73977</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth you ain&#039;t never lied.  LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did you see that grin?  Yep he should certainly be watched around young children.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth you ain&#39;t never lied.  LOL</p>
<p>Did you see that grin?  Yep he should certainly be watched around young children.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That guy should be watched around little children.   And the cops should check his basement.</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/saturday-open-thread-14/comment-page-5/#comment-73874</link>
		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If RayKwan in the barber shop says anything about McCain, you can bet the McCain campaign will hold Obama responsible for it.</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By McCain refusing to look at Obama in the first debate and calling him &quot;that one&quot; in the second, it gave the racists permission to display their assholery in public at McCain rallies.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why can&#039;t people call Obama all sorts of names and threaten death on him?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Why SHOULDN&#039;T they disrespect him?  After all, McCain disrespected him to his face TWICE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If McCain is a decent person, he&#039;d FORCEFULLY say &quot;Violence and disrespect will NOT be tolerated.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But who would believe him, since again, he&#039;s been disrespecting Obama TO HIS FACE?  He needs to lead by example, and I don&#039;t think that he will because he&#039;s losing and desperate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By McCain refusing to look at Obama in the first debate and calling him &#8220;that one&#8221; in the second, it gave the racists permission to display their assholery in public at McCain rallies.</p>
<p>Why can&#39;t people call Obama all sorts of names and threaten death on him?</p>
<p>Why SHOULDN&#39;T they disrespect him?  After all, McCain disrespected him to his face TWICE.</p>
<p>If McCain is a decent person, he&#39;d FORCEFULLY say &#8220;Violence and disrespect will NOT be tolerated.&#8221;</p>
<p>But who would believe him, since again, he&#39;s been disrespecting Obama TO HIS FACE?  He needs to lead by example, and I don&#39;t think that he will because he&#39;s losing and desperate.</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Lewis needs to go oops upside McCain&#039;s head.  Knock some sense into him.</description>
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