Comments on: Obama Will Be One of The Greatest (and Most Loved) American Presidents http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:20:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: robert http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-346791 robert Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:03:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-346791 Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance--analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric. Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance–analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric.

]]> By: robert http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-161333 robert Mon, 03 Nov 2008 06:03:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-161333 Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance--analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric. Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance–analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric.

]]> By: robert http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-93270 robert Mon, 03 Nov 2008 03:03:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-93270 Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance--analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric. Nothing indie said was bigoted, and nor did it have anything to do with Affirmative Action or Civil Rights. What indie said was purely about SOCIALISM. S-O-C-I-A-L-I-S-M (since you like CAPS so much). And that analogy has been around much longer than Hugh Hewitt, in various different forms. And in response to TB, it actually is an applicable analogy. Of course it is not the exact same circumstance–analogies never are, that's why they are called analogies. But the fact that you think the wealthy will get wealthier by paying more taxes is completely absurd. Not everyone who is wealthy focuses all their energy on investing, that is only the wealthy investors! And by the way this article was one fat piece of incredibly biased rhetoric.

]]> By: roschelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-91012 roschelle Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:00:51 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-91012 YES WE WILL..... YES WE WILL…..

]]> By: jelana http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90184 jelana Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:14:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90184 This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack

]]> By: jelana http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90216 jelana Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:14:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90216 This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack

]]> By: jelana http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90805 jelana Tue, 28 Oct 2008 17:14:24 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90805 This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack This is, by far, the most touching article I have read on Barack

]]> By: DBW http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90166 DBW Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:43:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90166 Indie,<br><br>What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class. Indie,

What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class.

]]> By: DBW http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90217 DBW Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:43:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90217 Indie,<br><br>What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class. Indie,

What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class.

]]> By: DBW http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-2/#comment-90806 DBW Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:43:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90806 Indie,<br><br>What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class. Indie,

What you basically just said that people who for the most part are middle class and who are working their a##'s off more than wealthier folks are considered lower class.

]]> By: DNLee http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90136 DNLee Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:26:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90136 brought a lump to my throat brought a lump to my throat

]]> By: DNLee http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90218 DNLee Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:26:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90218 brought a lump to my throat brought a lump to my throat

]]> By: DNLee http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90807 DNLee Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:26:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90807 brought a lump to my throat brought a lump to my throat

]]> By: Monie http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90112 Monie Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:09:08 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90112 Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.<br><br>Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt. Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.

Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt.

]]> By: Monie http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90220 Monie Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:09:08 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90220 Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.<br><br>Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt. Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.

Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt.

]]> By: Monie http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90809 Monie Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:09:08 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90809 Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.<br><br>Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt. Go back and ask Hugh Hewitt if he feels like a dumb ass for spreading the Ashley Todd hoax on CNN last week.

Hugh Hewitt, you, and the rest of the race-baiting hacks will fall for anything, since you don't stand on shyt.

]]> By: babyming http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90108 babyming Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:52:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90108 After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an "achievement". Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality. After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an “achievement”. Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality.

]]> By: babyming http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90221 babyming Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:52:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90221 After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an "achievement". Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality. After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an “achievement”. Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality.

]]> By: babyming http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90810 babyming Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:52:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90810 After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an "achievement". Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality. After the astronomical government spending of George W. Bush, it should be obvious that the REPUBLICANS are the ones who spend and borrow like drunken sailors. Under Bush, the national debt has almost doubled, and this is quite an “achievement”. Yes, that's what really happened during the past 8 years. How about we get a new President, Barack Obama, who can actually deal with reality.

]]> By: TB http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/obama-will-be-one-of-the-greatest-and-most-loved-american-presidents/comment-page-1/#comment-90067 TB Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:00:39 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=4104#comment-90067 Well you see, there's a fundamental problem with this analogy. The student "sharing her grade wealth" will not benefit from helping her classmates by taking a lower grade. The classmates may actually end up being handicapped by this, because they percieve their abilities to be greater than they really are.<br>With the tax system, its quite a bit different. Because the tax breaks that the middle class will get will stimulate the economy, the wealthy can, through investments and whatnot, become wealthier. <br>In addition, the programs that are helped by those additional funds may keep some kid from falling though the cracks; it may help them get the education that those rich kids get, and have the opportunity to go to Harvard or Yale, and become a productive member of society. Otherwise, they may just show up on a rich person's doorstep with a gun and blow their head off....which would you prefer? Well you see, there's a fundamental problem with this analogy. The student “sharing her grade wealth” will not benefit from helping her classmates by taking a lower grade. The classmates may actually end up being handicapped by this, because they percieve their abilities to be greater than they really are.
With the tax system, its quite a bit different. Because the tax breaks that the middle class will get will stimulate the economy, the wealthy can, through investments and whatnot, become wealthier.
In addition, the programs that are helped by those additional funds may keep some kid from falling though the cracks; it may help them get the education that those rich kids get, and have the opportunity to go to Harvard or Yale, and become a productive member of society. Otherwise, they may just show up on a rich person's doorstep with a gun and blow their head off….which would you prefer?

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