Comments on: Monday Evening Open Thread

By: The Urban Scientist

The Urban Scientist — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 05:42:34 +0000

thanks for the run down, the question was regarding the DonorsChoose campagn – that pale blue box just to the right of the comments here. —> You'll notice the score card reads $0 dollars raised.

I'm curious about it, that's all. Did you notice it? I also think you give part of the answer. The focus for findraising has been campaign contributions, perhaps this other fundraiser just hasn't made it to the top of the marquee yet.

By: The Urban Scientist

The Urban Scientist — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 02:42:34 +0000

thanks for the run down, the question was regarding the DonorsChoose campagn – that pale blue box just to the right of the comments here. —> You'll notice the score card reads $0 dollars raised.

By: spirit_55z

spirit_55z — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:15:28 +0000

Hasselbeck needs to audition for Jeff Probst's next “Survivor “series titled “Reunion of the Right Wing Loosers.”

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:47:17 +0000

Urban Scientist: Hey!

JJP is one of the most popular political blogs, highest ranked Black Blogs, and attracts the most impassioned readers as judged by your comments --

You have ABSOLUTELY and ACCURATELY CHARACTERIZED JJP! Thank you.

Annnnnd, I'm sure that YOU have also read the following:

1. JJP contributes MONEY to Mr. Obama BOTHHERE AND DIRECTLY.

2. JJP has spent COUNTLESS VOLUNTEER HOURS CANVASSING and CALLING.

3. JJP CAMPAIGNS in a VARIETY of WAYS: - BLOGGING, attending CONFERENCES, COMEDY EVENTS, COMMUNICATING with OTHER BLOGS, attending the DNC CONVENTION and "bringin' it " to US and all via "REAL TIME VIDEO, even communicating with "visitors", etc.

4. JJP HAS advanced itself in the BLOGGING WORLD [of all races] and this STATUS has CREDIBILITY such that "WHEN WE SPEAK - ERRYBODY LISTENS!" - EVEN IFFF they want to criticize or disagree.

5. JJP supports EDUCATION. 'cause UNLIKE McAncient/The UN-VETTED ONE WE are EDUCATED!!! The HIGH LEVEL of OUR EDUCATION is DISLAYED in our COMMENTS - which YOU have read.

I encourage you to your efforts on behalf of Mr. Obama. Continue YOUR monetary support. Continue to inspire people to contribute to your blog.

Oh! Wait a minute. . What was YOUR question???

OBAMA-BIDEN '08!!! TRUST

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:15:26 +0000

Cheri: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. It is my purpose to SHARE information for the use of others. Sooo, glad you could use such important, HISTORICAL information. It keeps me grounded. :>)

I'll listen to you show. Continued BEST WISHES! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:12:07 +0000

Miss Me: Thank you.

You know, I don't consistently watch The View, mainly because of Elisabeth. She is maddening, SMARMY/SNARKY/SARCASTIC annnnnd, can I say DUMB!

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:58:08 +0000

DNLee: Hey! :>) Thank you for you response.

To me the issue is so much money being spent on a marginal expense versus a real expense like travel or commercials or signage.

This statement appears to address JUDGMENT>

That's one of the first charges that McAncient's campaign made against Mr. Obama. They questioned his JUDGMENT!!

IMHO, this "SHOPPING SPREE" ABSOLUTELY brings into question the "JUDGMENT" of him/his campaign/the REPUGS.

IFFF there was a need to spend that money, THEN it could have been spent in SMALLER parcels. In that way, it would have, more than likely, gone un-noticed.

Even in my personal life, IFF I want to make a LARGE PURCHASE and I don't have the LARGE BENJAMINS at a single time, THEN, I pay on it in SMALL INCREMENTS. It's call JUDGMENT.

IMHO, I believe that this incident is merely another example of his lack of JUDGMENT - and not a sexist issue.

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

By: DNLee

DNLee — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:44:10 +0000

I agree that buying her (and her family if I read right) clothes seems inappropriate. I've never heard of campaign money being used for wardrobe before.. And $150K -- that's a whole lot of money. It does sound outrageous. But not hearing it doesn't mean it has never happened. Do we know for sure that other politicians have not used campaign money for 'marginal campaign expenses' like clothes while campaigning, meals while campaigning, etc.
To me the issue is so much money being spent on a marginal expense versus a real expense like travel or commercials or signage. That's a lot of overhead for clothes. The amount of money concerns me - and it doesn't matter that those clothes will be donated or not. You can find nice clothes for say $10-15K and that wouldn't have been so shocking to me.

As one who can find a loop in most anything, I can see (superficially) how this might been seen as okay expenditure. But what do the rules say? I'll admit I don't know how it works.

And I am no fan of Palin, but as a proud feminist, this talk of her wardrobe is sexist. Same thing when everyone droned on and on about Hillary's pantsuits and whether they were feminine enough.

I've never ever heard any political talk of male candidates' wardrobe. If it was handsome enough, masculine enough, had enough buttons, how much a suit costs, etc.
Reducing female candidates to looks and appearance is sexist.

By: The Urban Scientist

The Urban Scientist — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:34:06 +0000

Re: Donors Choose Participation. Several other Black Bloggers are also participating, each of us trying to do our part.

JJP is one of the most popular political blogs, highest ranked Black Blogs, and attracts the most impassioned readers as judged by your comments -- why don't you think any of your readers have contributed to your Donors Choose Campaign?

I figured JJP participation would really rally some people to support and contribute to education?

Any ideas how to inspire people and get people to contribute to your projects/ our projects?

Just curious.

By: Miss Me

Miss Me — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:22:07 +0000

I agree with the Roland Report. When I first heard that she had spent that much money on clothing, my first reaction was "So the f**k what?" There is MUCH more dirt/important issues that you could address, such as the impending indictment of Stevens, the results of the ethics investigation, and the fact that being mayor of Wasilla, AK is like being the President of the Student Government Association of a College or a Girl Scout Troop Leader (a statement which is a personal opinion/assessment based on recent and factual statements from the CURRENT Mayor of Wasilla, Dianne Keller and the City of Wasilla website)

But the fact remains that as soon as the Republican party made a big deal about it, it became a big deal. To quote Amy Poehler as Hillary Clinton with regards to the role that sexism plays in the election, it is "an issue that I am surprised to hear that people suddenly care about."

I could EASILY spend that much money on clothes and shoes in 1-2 days and look pretty damn good as a result. Now whether I did that with my own money or public money is another issue.

P.S. With regards to Mrs. Hasselbeck, It's not so much her views that bother me. It is the fact that she CONSISTENTLY fails to back up the foot that she shoves into her mouth every time she speaks. She epitomizes, to me, the right wing (and left wing) individuals who will stick their fingers in their ears and sing "La La La, I can't hear you!! La La La I'm right! You're wrong!!" when they can't make sense of their point or when they feel somehow threatened rather than have an intellectual discussion and debate. If there was one person that I could punch in the chest, it would be Elizabeth Hasselback. No really, like a Street Fighter style "Haduken," complete with slow-motion fly-back from Elizabeth.

Not that I care to watch the view (it makes me want to commit suicide and gives me explosive diarrhea), but I do hope that they balance her out with a Conservative who makes sensible, legitimate claims when they speak. I'm all for open dialogue and it is (technically) unfair when the rest of the harpies gang up on her. Though the vast majority of the time, she deserves it.

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 14:44:57 +0000

Michelle: LOL! The UN-VETTED ONE truly gives fodder for humor!! :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

By: Commodity Trading Accounts

Commodity Trading Accounts — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:22:46 +0000

the balance is OBAMA, i hope do their job well.

By: Val

Val — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:10:19 +0000

She was flawless.

Michelle looked fantastic. She is a gorgeous woman inside and out and she looked wonderful.

By: Cheri

Cheri — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:07:57 +0000

I forgot to add that the mention of your post in the show starts about 9 minutes in. You can skip to that part if you like.

By: Val

Val — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:07:11 +0000

Wonderful piece. I see the same things (I think we raised similar points over the last few weeks on JJP). This is beautiful.

By: Cheri

Cheri — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:06:48 +0000

I wish it would really go down on The View! One day a couple of weeks ago Sherri got real excited and said to Elisabeth, "Oh no you don't!"

She was responding to some crazy GOP supporting statement that Elisabeth made. LOL

I thought Sherri was gonna hit her for a minute!

I also wanted to tell you that I was really inspired by the post that you shared yesterday on the Jim Crow Laws. Thanks for posting it.

I hope that you don't mind, but I talked about your post today on my show, and gave an account of my own personal experience with racism as a child.

By: Michelle

Michelle — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:12:49 +0000

Palin also tried to burnish her foreign policy credentials by meeting in Leesburg, Virginia, with Israel's ambassador to the United States, apologizing for the session's delay.

"We look forward to ... working with your Jewish agency," she told Ambassador Sallai Meridor just before her speech outside Washington. Israel was established in 1948 as the Jewish homeland but has a secular, elected government.

Source

Oh I suspect I know what she was really saying to the Israeli ambassador. Someone's little Christian extremist brain is showing. Let me give it a shot for translation:

"Since Israel -- aka 'The Jew Place' -- is very important to the End Times, I look forward to seeing which of you nasty big-nosed people convert to Christianity and get saved, and which of you nasty big-nosed people suffer in bloody and horrific ways because you don't. But I am saved in any case, so there. And I am certain that your Jewish agency will somehow be helpful in bringing about my bloody fantasies of Armageddon, so I am sure I will be interested in working with it. You little stinky jew man."

(Yoda says: Oy. Sarah, Sarah. Learn to barricade your mind better, you must.)

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:52:09 +0000

rikyrah: Brother Roland says someone needs ta say "SHUT UP" to Elizabeth Hasselbeck!

http://essence.typepad.com/news/2008/10/poor-el...
Poor Elizabeth is crying sexism over Palin's campaign-bought clothes

Can someone tell Elizabeth Hasselback to sit down and shut up?

Her complaints over the weekend about the media continuing to talk about the clothes bought for Gov. Sarah Palin by the Republican National Committtee shows why celebrities should stay in their lane and not try to wade into the world of politics.

First, every time Hasselback and any other Republican mentions the clothing issue, it keeps the story alive. Bottom line: the Republican Party screwed up. They should not have paid for the clothes with campaign funds. That's why it's a story. Remember the $400 haircut by John Edwards? The only reason we know about it because the campaign paid for it. He was ripped for weeks by conservatives, yet now they want everyone to be quiet about $150,000 in expensive duds for the hockey mom from Alaska.

Talk about ridiculous.

THERE IS A VIDEO.

I'm tellin' you. It's gonna "go down" one of these days - on The View! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:42:08 +0000

rikyrah: Bill Burton Slams FAUX SPEWS – BUT “REAL COOL”:

http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/bill-burton-is...
Bill Burton Isn't Taking Any Bull From Faux News Channel (VIDEO)

Bill Burton calls FOX out for its agenda-driven political programming, enraging FOX anchor Megyn Kelly. Note how calm Burton manages to remain throughout the interview. He showed no anger whatsoever…which seemed to provoke Kelly into an even deeper fury.

THIS IS GOOD!!! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!! TRUST

By: GreenLadyHere

GreenLadyHere — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:34:17 +0000

rikyrah: Chucky T. says Hispanics Could Put Obama Over The Top!:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27403090/
Hispanics could put Obama over the top
The overlooked demographic could be the Democrat's key to western states

But as important as both constituencies have been to Obama — particularly in the primaries — it's Hispanics that could be putting him over the top on Nov. 4.

Obama's dominance among Hispanics in the West is proving to be the difference maker in Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. In addition, the increased numbers of non-Cuban Hispanics in Florida, as well as the growing Hispanic population in North Carolina and Virginia, could be the tipping voting group in those three states.

SKIP

There's no easy solution for Republicans. Wooing Hispanics is going to start with simply looking less scornful of immigrants. McCain never acted or looked scornfully at illegal immigrants, but the perception among Hispanics is that his party has.

Mario ["Dancing With The Stars"] Lopez has held interviews with Mr. Obama. Feels like he is SUPPORTING him and encouraging Hispanics to do so, also! :>) :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!! TRUST