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		<title>By: RobM</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-162257</link>
		<dc:creator>RobM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yours is the 2nd article I&#039;ve seen today about the Katrinaization of the Bush administration. Katriniaization means the substitution of ideology over competence and expertise. the acknowledgement of Brownie doing a good job.&lt;br&gt;Here is the Brownie of the day Henry Paulson, his 3rd treasury secretary. (In full disclosure I advocated on these pages for the buying of mortgage backed securities.).&lt;br&gt;This is his movement towards understanding the housing /mortgage crisis:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4926251.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yours is the 2nd article I&#39;ve seen today about the Katrinaization of the Bush administration. Katriniaization means the substitution of ideology over competence and expertise. the acknowledgement of Brownie doing a good job.<br />Here is the Brownie of the day Henry Paulson, his 3rd treasury secretary. (In full disclosure I advocated on these pages for the buying of mortgage backed securities.).<br />This is his movement towards understanding the housing /mortgage crisis:<br /><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4926251.ece" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column.." rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rawdawgbuffalo</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-162258</link>
		<dc:creator>rawdawgbuffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/10/deposits-and-despots.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;deposits and despots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;. I gues Mayer Amschel Rothschild was right “Give me control over a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=&#39;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/10/deposits-and-despots.html&#39; rel="nofollow">deposits and despots</a><br />. I gues Mayer Amschel Rothschild was right “Give me control over a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-162261</link>
		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said.  it&#039;s really behavior we&#039;re talking about with respect to all of this, the economy, green, etc. Consumers can make whole systems change immediately - can make McD put salad? on the menu.  we set ourselves up for the same duping 20 yrs from now when we&#039;re lulled to sleep again with what george carlin talked about: stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said.  it&#39;s really behavior we&#39;re talking about with respect to all of this, the economy, green, etc. Consumers can make whole systems change immediately &#8211; can make McD put salad? on the menu.  we set ourselves up for the same duping 20 yrs from now when we&#39;re lulled to sleep again with what george carlin talked about: stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-162259</link>
		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree: any kind of change will see a rise in stability in the markets and buying in now, e.g. via index looks like it may make sense, esp. with prices low and before they succeed in artificial and too-early reheating instead of just truthing it out &amp; letting the bottom hit and dropping those sorry banks that went stupid on derivatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree: any kind of change will see a rise in stability in the markets and buying in now, e.g. via index looks like it may make sense, esp. with prices low and before they succeed in artificial and too-early reheating instead of just truthing it out &#038; letting the bottom hit and dropping those sorry banks that went stupid on derivatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-162260</link>
		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 23:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t you asking the same of McCain?</description>
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		<title>By: Rob M</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74805</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yours is the 2nd article I&#039;ve seen today about the Katrinaization of the Bush administration. Katriniaization means the substitution of ideology over competence and expertise. the acknowledgement of Brownie doing a good job.&lt;br&gt;Here is the Brownie of the day Henry Paulson, his 3rd treasury secretary. (In full disclosure I advocated on these pages for the buying of mortgage backed securities.).&lt;br&gt;This is his movement towards understanding the housing /mortgage crisis:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4926251.ece&quot;&gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yours is the 2nd article I&#39;ve seen today about the Katrinaization of the Bush administration. Katriniaization means the substitution of ideology over competence and expertise. the acknowledgement of Brownie doing a good job.<br />Here is the Brownie of the day Henry Paulson, his 3rd treasury secretary. (In full disclosure I advocated on these pages for the buying of mortgage backed securities.).<br />This is his movement towards understanding the housing /mortgage crisis:<br /><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4926251.ece"></a><a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column.." rel="nofollow">http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/column..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rawdawgbuffalo</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74790</link>
		<dc:creator>rawdawgbuffalo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/10/deposits-and-despots.html&#039;&gt;deposits and despots&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;. I gues Mayer Amschel Rothschild was right “Give me control over a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href=&#39;http://rawdawgb.blogspot.com/2008/10/deposits-and-despots.html&#39;>deposits and despots</a><br />. I gues Mayer Amschel Rothschild was right “Give me control over a nation’s currency, and I care not who makes its laws.”</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74775</link>
		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well said.  it&#039;s really behavior we&#039;re talking about with respect to all of this, the economy, green, etc. Consumers can make whole systems change immediately - can make McD put salad? on the menu.  we set ourselves up for the same duping 20 yrs from now when we&#039;re lulled to sleep again with what george carlin talked about: stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well said.  it&#39;s really behavior we&#39;re talking about with respect to all of this, the economy, green, etc. Consumers can make whole systems change immediately &#8211; can make McD put salad? on the menu.  we set ourselves up for the same duping 20 yrs from now when we&#39;re lulled to sleep again with what george carlin talked about: stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74766</link>
		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree: any kind of change will see a rise in stability in the markets and buying in now, e.g. via index looks like it may make sense, esp. with prices low and before they succeed in artificial and too-early reheating instead of just truthing it out &amp; letting the bottom hit and dropping those sorry banks that went stupid on derivatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree: any kind of change will see a rise in stability in the markets and buying in now, e.g. via index looks like it may make sense, esp. with prices low and before they succeed in artificial and too-early reheating instead of just truthing it out &#038; letting the bottom hit and dropping those sorry banks that went stupid on derivatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74763</link>
		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 20:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why aren&#039;t you asking the same of McCain?</description>
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		<title>By: WATCH US EXPLODE</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74707</link>
		<dc:creator>WATCH US EXPLODE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Markets rise, markets fall... there&#039;ll be good times, and there&#039;ll be bad times... yin and yang... equilibrium. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m in the markets, and manage my own fledgling portfolio, and I&#039;m not panicking just yet, and don&#039;t see any reason to do so. We will rebound sooner than most people think. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That we are in the middle of an election certainly doesn&#039;t help matters. There&#039;s uncertainty about who the next president will be. Once that&#039;s settled in a few weeks, I expect to start to see a confident consensus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I will say that there definitely needs to be more government regulation of industry - specifically, in the financial sector. This should have always been the case, but, laissez-faire capitalism triumphed, and thus the trading of many rather complicated, and even unnecessary financial products went unchecked, helping to cause the predicament we find ourselves currently in. But, I think a lesson has been learned here, and we will see some change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Markets rise, markets fall&#8230; there&#39;ll be good times, and there&#39;ll be bad times&#8230; yin and yang&#8230; equilibrium. </p>
<p>I&#39;m in the markets, and manage my own fledgling portfolio, and I&#39;m not panicking just yet, and don&#39;t see any reason to do so. We will rebound sooner than most people think. </p>
<p>That we are in the middle of an election certainly doesn&#39;t help matters. There&#39;s uncertainty about who the next president will be. Once that&#39;s settled in a few weeks, I expect to start to see a confident consensus.</p>
<p>I will say that there definitely needs to be more government regulation of industry &#8211; specifically, in the financial sector. This should have always been the case, but, laissez-faire capitalism triumphed, and thus the trading of many rather complicated, and even unnecessary financial products went unchecked, helping to cause the predicament we find ourselves currently in. But, I think a lesson has been learned here, and we will see some change.</p>
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		<title>By: luci</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74697</link>
		<dc:creator>luci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of Katrina . . . When will Obama say NewOrleans will be a priority. And we will see the people return to their homes. Would have been the perfect answer to the final question in the last debate. He could inspire the nation to creatively make it happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of Katrina . . . When will Obama say NewOrleans will be a priority. And we will see the people return to their homes. Would have been the perfect answer to the final question in the last debate. He could inspire the nation to creatively make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl aka jill tubman</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheryl aka jill tubman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to spread fear and in fact, I&#039;ve written before urging overall calm. My goal is to give folks another perspective on the bigger picture of what&#039;s happening and to use their own analysis when watching the news. I think it&#039;s important for people to understand what&#039;s actually happening and parse the news. Thanks for your thoughts which add another layer to this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not trying to spread fear and in fact, I&#39;ve written before urging overall calm. My goal is to give folks another perspective on the bigger picture of what&#39;s happening and to use their own analysis when watching the news. I think it&#39;s important for people to understand what&#39;s actually happening and parse the news. Thanks for your thoughts which add another layer to this.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74677</link>
		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 16:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know unless people are really willing to live with less and live on less not much is going to change in the end. The entire structure needs to change. This market is still operating under the premise of us buying every do-dad and gizmo annually. We can&#039;t afford it - and further we don&#039;t need it. My Ipod from 4 years ago still works fine but I&#039;m &#039;supposed&#039; to buy the newest release. It&#039;s ridiculous. Most of the core jobs that support an infrastructure have been shipped outside the US.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know unless people are really willing to live with less and live on less not much is going to change in the end. The entire structure needs to change. This market is still operating under the premise of us buying every do-dad and gizmo annually. We can&#39;t afford it &#8211; and further we don&#39;t need it. My Ipod from 4 years ago still works fine but I&#39;m &#39;supposed&#39; to buy the newest release. It&#39;s ridiculous. Most of the core jobs that support an infrastructure have been shipped outside the US.</p>
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		<title>By: Jess Bart-Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74642</link>
		<dc:creator>Jess Bart-Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 15:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... Did you have a suggestion here or were you just spewing hatred and fear on the page without regard to inciting a riot or mass panic?  Cause I&#039;m $250,000 upside down in my house right now, and I gotta say, I can&#039;t find anything in here that I haven&#039;t heard over and over again all week.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am a registered Democrat and no fan of Bush.  However, I&#039;m pretty sure it takes more than a week or two to fix between 40 and 90 years of corruption/living on credit.  And everyone (by that I mean the Federal Reserve, Congress and the G7) is convinced that Bush is not the one that is going to fix this, so let&#039;s stop going to that empty well, huh?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s messed up.  It&#039;s been messed up for a long time.  We as a country have been actively trying to patch over this wound with a Band-Aid for a year now (remember your refund check and the lowered interest rates?), and now we need more drastic measures to (again) try to get the economy to respond.  The stock market is not the indicator we are trying to shift, however.  The stock market is a real-time indicator of consumer confidence, which I can&#039;t believe would be improved by the reading of your article.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you are interested in regaining your 12% annual return on investment, I suggest you take an economics class.  Remember them saying the stock market was unsustainable?  This is what unsustainable looks like.  Either we take the hit and reset the market now, or your parents/grandparents go hungry, or your children do.  Who are you willing to sell out for your leased car and Starbucks coffee?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you have an opinion on how you would like to spend the $700 billion dollars to heal the economy, I&#039;d love to hear it.  Or maybe we should just call our financial advisors and blame the government.  It&#039;s all so &quot;complicated and confusing,&quot; you know?...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; Did you have a suggestion here or were you just spewing hatred and fear on the page without regard to inciting a riot or mass panic?  Cause I&#39;m $250,000 upside down in my house right now, and I gotta say, I can&#39;t find anything in here that I haven&#39;t heard over and over again all week.</p>
<p>I am a registered Democrat and no fan of Bush.  However, I&#39;m pretty sure it takes more than a week or two to fix between 40 and 90 years of corruption/living on credit.  And everyone (by that I mean the Federal Reserve, Congress and the G7) is convinced that Bush is not the one that is going to fix this, so let&#39;s stop going to that empty well, huh?</p>
<p>It&#39;s messed up.  It&#39;s been messed up for a long time.  We as a country have been actively trying to patch over this wound with a Band-Aid for a year now (remember your refund check and the lowered interest rates?), and now we need more drastic measures to (again) try to get the economy to respond.  The stock market is not the indicator we are trying to shift, however.  The stock market is a real-time indicator of consumer confidence, which I can&#39;t believe would be improved by the reading of your article.  </p>
<p>If you are interested in regaining your 12% annual return on investment, I suggest you take an economics class.  Remember them saying the stock market was unsustainable?  This is what unsustainable looks like.  Either we take the hit and reset the market now, or your parents/grandparents go hungry, or your children do.  Who are you willing to sell out for your leased car and Starbucks coffee?</p>
<p>If you have an opinion on how you would like to spend the $700 billion dollars to heal the economy, I&#39;d love to hear it.  Or maybe we should just call our financial advisors and blame the government.  It&#39;s all so &#8220;complicated and confusing,&#8221; you know?&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anderkoo</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74322</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it&#039;s far from over... but where to hide? I&#039;m a little afeared of gold, to be honest, it doesn&#039;t feel like something that you &quot;really&quot; own, a lot more like the paper derivatives that got us where we are in the first place. Or maybe I&#039;m choosing to be stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#39;s far from over&#8230; but where to hide? I&#39;m a little afeared of gold, to be honest, it doesn&#39;t feel like something that you &#8220;really&#8221; own, a lot more like the paper derivatives that got us where we are in the first place. Or maybe I&#39;m choosing to be stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: taurussun</title>
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		<dc:creator>taurussun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 14:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you only lost 20 % in your financial account, you are in good shape.&lt;br&gt; The three accounts I watch  for relatives are down 50% and some days 60%. &lt;br&gt;Personally, i moved my IRAs into a gold funds at the beginning of 2008 and the lost in those accounts has not been as bad as in stock accounts. &lt;br&gt;Anyhow, the worse is a long way from over. Activating astrological signatures look similar to those in the 1930&#039;s. &lt;br&gt;&quot;&quot;I bought a new toaster today,&quot; he told me, &quot;and they gave me a bank as &lt;br&gt;a free gift.&quot;&quot; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you only lost 20 % in your financial account, you are in good shape.<br /> The three accounts I watch  for relatives are down 50% and some days 60%. <br />Personally, i moved my IRAs into a gold funds at the beginning of 2008 and the lost in those accounts has not been as bad as in stock accounts. <br />Anyhow, the worse is a long way from over. Activating astrological signatures look similar to those in the 1930&#39;s. <br />&#8220;&#8221;I bought a new toaster today,&#8221; he told me, &#8220;and they gave me a bank as <br />a free gift.&#8221;" :)</p>
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		<title>By: Lilytiger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilytiger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is what happens, Redneck America, when you vote in a person you can relate to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is what happens, Redneck America, when you vote in a person you can relate to.</p>
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		<title>By: Anderkoo</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74298</link>
		<dc:creator>Anderkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 13:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, congratulations Cheryl for pulling out of this mess on time! The rest of us lost a good 20%+ of our savings... Thank god I have 40 more years to make up for this. So much for compounding returns. &gt;:(&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m inclined to cut Bernanke and Paulson a bit more slack. First of all, they have been a lot less ideological and more pragmatic than the typical Bush appointee. (In fact, it&#039;s painful to do, but to give Bush some credit, his lame-duck appointments like Gates are a huge improvement over the single-minded morons he appointed in the beginning of his Presidency. Of course, you really couldn&#039;t go much lower than he likes of Rumsfeld). It looks like there was a lot diplomacy going on to slip the bailout plan through a Congress being held hostage by the Republican wingnuts. On this you have to at least give some credit to Bernanke/Paulson for tacking to the middle, or spread some blame to the Democrats (depending on whether you see the bailout as bad or good).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, the weight of this crash is moving beyond any government&#039;s ability to stop -- the best we can hope for is that intervention will break the fall somewhat. This baby was destined to go down, and the fact that we didn&#039;t plummet all the way in 2001-2 makes the current fall all the worse.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There&#039;s a lot of villainy to go around, but without a doubt Alan Greenspan deserves the gold, silver, and bronze medals. He&#039;s a Bush/Clinton/Bush man, so I&#039;m afraid he&#039;s a bipartisan failure. What we can blame Greenspan for:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* Forestalling regulation of the derivatives market -- the REAL cause of the current crisis&lt;br&gt;* Lobbying for and winning revision of the CPI that has understated inflation and given us a false sense of GDP growth&lt;br&gt;* Allowing the dot-com bubble to get out of control&lt;br&gt;* Failing to let the dot-com bust to correct itself naturally&lt;br&gt;* Overheating the housing market so he could leave office in the midst of a boom rather than in disgrace&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bernanke and Paulson took over a speeding bus that was already off the road and heading for a cliff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, congratulations Cheryl for pulling out of this mess on time! The rest of us lost a good 20%+ of our savings&#8230; Thank god I have 40 more years to make up for this. So much for compounding returns. &gt;:(</p>
<p>I&#39;m inclined to cut Bernanke and Paulson a bit more slack. First of all, they have been a lot less ideological and more pragmatic than the typical Bush appointee. (In fact, it&#39;s painful to do, but to give Bush some credit, his lame-duck appointments like Gates are a huge improvement over the single-minded morons he appointed in the beginning of his Presidency. Of course, you really couldn&#39;t go much lower than he likes of Rumsfeld). It looks like there was a lot diplomacy going on to slip the bailout plan through a Congress being held hostage by the Republican wingnuts. On this you have to at least give some credit to Bernanke/Paulson for tacking to the middle, or spread some blame to the Democrats (depending on whether you see the bailout as bad or good).</p>
<p>Also, the weight of this crash is moving beyond any government&#39;s ability to stop &#8212; the best we can hope for is that intervention will break the fall somewhat. This baby was destined to go down, and the fact that we didn&#39;t plummet all the way in 2001-2 makes the current fall all the worse.</p>
<p>There&#39;s a lot of villainy to go around, but without a doubt Alan Greenspan deserves the gold, silver, and bronze medals. He&#39;s a Bush/Clinton/Bush man, so I&#39;m afraid he&#39;s a bipartisan failure. What we can blame Greenspan for:</p>
<p>* Forestalling regulation of the derivatives market &#8212; the REAL cause of the current crisis<br />* Lobbying for and winning revision of the CPI that has understated inflation and given us a false sense of GDP growth<br />* Allowing the dot-com bubble to get out of control<br />* Failing to let the dot-com bust to correct itself naturally<br />* Overheating the housing market so he could leave office in the midst of a boom rather than in disgrace</p>
<p>Bernanke and Paulson took over a speeding bus that was already off the road and heading for a cliff.</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/10/katrina-ii-wall-street-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-74287</link>
		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 12:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>point well taken.  rubbed in w/ flava salt, even.  ...waiting in a hurryup for some next post to replace the image of dude as policy wonk.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;to your topic here, this coalescence (coagulation?) of the world&#039;s banks and gov&#039;ts to address is troubling if only for the new and larger scale of now direct damage that can be inflicted by mismanagement.  politicians already got gamed or bought off by the street once.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;we&#039;re getting set up for direct deposit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>point well taken.  rubbed in w/ flava salt, even.  &#8230;waiting in a hurryup for some next post to replace the image of dude as policy wonk.</p>
<p>to your topic here, this coalescence (coagulation?) of the world&#39;s banks and gov&#39;ts to address is troubling if only for the new and larger scale of now direct damage that can be inflicted by mismanagement.  politicians already got gamed or bought off by the street once.  </p>
<p>we&#39;re getting set up for direct deposit.</p>
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