Jack & Jill Politics

Rikyrah: Andrea " I just cain't seem to put that white woman down, I don't care how "clueless" she is" Mitchell is "hedging" when describing "The Gov."!! :>) :>)

That "MEDIA CONTROL" is still on like an "ANKLE BRACELET"!!!

LAWD HA'Mercy!!! :>) :>)

I can't stand Andrea Mitchell! She has been the opposite of impartial since the primary season.

JJai: opposite of impartial :>) :>) :>) Good one!!! :>) :>)

From HuffPost: OH MY GOODNESS!!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/mccain...
McCain Interview on Palin -Riddled With ERRORS [my emphases]

GRAB YOUR POPCORN while WATCHING "McAncient's" CORN!! :>) :>)

If they thought McCain would come under less intensive fire than he would from the national press, however, the campaign was mistaken. Rob Caldwell, a dogged reporter for WCHS, pressed McCain repeatedly on Gov. Sarah Palin's qualifications for the vice presidency. And while answering, McCain made a number of factual misstatements.

First, the reporter asked McCain to explain Sarah Palin's foreign policy credentials:

Q: Let 's move on to what you say is the number one issue facing the United States in our time. And that is the challenge of addressing Islamist extremism. What credentials does Gov. Palin have -- in national security, diplomacy, foreign policy -- that qualify her to be your partner in that, on that issue: the fight against Islamic extremism?


McCain: Well, obviously the economy is also a major challenge facing America.

Q: No, I'm using your words, Senator McCain, you have said, this summer...

McCain: No, I said...

Q: That the number one challenge of our time is Islamic extremism...


McCain: No, I said the greatest challenge of our time is national security threats. I've also said that jobs and the economy are the number one issue facing America.

Leaving aside McCain's ability to define America's "greatest challenge" as somehow different from its "number one issue," it's just not true that he has never described "Islamic extremism" as the greatest challenge of our time.

From a March 28 speech posted on McCain's website: "It will strengthen us to confront the transcendent challenge of our time: the threat of radical Islamic terrorism. This challenge is transcendent not because it is the only one we face. There are many dangers in today's world, and our foreign policy must be agile and effective at dealing with all of them. But the threat posed by the terrorists is unique."

And in June: "Well, I would think that the absolute gravest threat is the struggle that we're in against Islamic extremism, which can affect, if they prevail, our very existence."

Continuing, McCain brought up an Alaska natural gas pipeline backed by Palin:

McCain: So, ah, but the point is Governor Palin was right on the issues. She understands energy, which is one of the fundamental issues of our national security. She was responsible for a $40 billion pipeline that's gonna bring natural gas to the lower 48.

But as the New York Times reported yesterday, "the pipeline exists only on paper." And though Palin has thus far proved adept at "attracting developers to a project that has eluded Alaska governors for three decades ... Ms. Palin has overstated both the progress that has been made and the certainty of success."

In the interview, McCain continued by saying Palin was "right on Russia" and "right on Iraq" while Senator Obama was "wrong." McCain also falsely suggested that Obama had credited Palin with being "right on Iran," which has never happened. "He [Obama] said that she was right on Iran when he's been wrong on Iran."

Regardless of what one thinks of Barack Obama's positions on Russia, Iraq and Iran, it's hard to see how Palin had much of a track record at all -- on any of these matters.

As Andrew Sullivan has noted, she answered a question on Iraq in 2006 by saying: "I've been so focused on state government, I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq. I heard on the news about the new deployments, and while I support our president, Condoleezza Rice and the administration, I want to know that we have an exit plan in place; I want assurances that we are doing all we can to keep our troops safe. Every life lost is such a tragedy. I am very, very proud of the troops we have in Alaska, those fighting overseas for our freedoms, and the families here who are making so many sacrifices."

When asked again by the interviewer for a specific example of Palin's foreign policy experience, McCain flubbed Palin's talking point on energy.

McCain: She knows more about energy than probably anybody else in the Unites States. She is governor of a state [pause] that 20 percent of America's energy supply comes from there.

Leave aside the wildly overstated assertion that Palin is America's top expert on energy. McCain also claimed that the state produces "20 percent of America's energy supply," which is just wrong.

In 2005, Alaska produced 3.5 percent of America's energy supply. Presumably McCain meant to say that Alaska is responsible for 20 percent of America's domestic energy production (which is true).

Individually, these were perhaps all minor flubs. But taken in total, they suggested McCain may be a bit rocky now that his campaign has mostly closed him off to reporters.

SOME journalists, now, seem to be using the Chis Matthews ATTACK PARADIGM!!!

Apply LIPSTICK!!! :>) :>)

Did anyone catch the name of the organization donating to Haiti that Michael Baisden was collecting donations for today? I would like to make a donation.

nickwah22: No. But you can check his web site. :>)

What did you guys think about the "Service Forum"? It was kind of eh for me.

It was funny as hell to me when McCain responded to the question about his family history of military service that he DID NOT LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT. Ha. He sure has changed that policy in recent months. It was slick and subtle too of Obama to say at the end that his tales of his service is legendary.

Also, McCain has said on more than one occasion that the negative tone of this campaign is Obama's fault because he declined to participate in townhall meetings. I don't get this. Is McCain saying he punishing Obama because he did not get his way?

McCain said something earlier too about America's generosity or something or the other going back to its' inception. I was sitting there thinking, what about Native Americans, slavery, segregation? I

Sarah Palin's Charlie Gibson ABC Interview: Video And Transcript
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/sarah-...

GIBSON: But this is not just reforming a government. This is also running a government on the huge international stage in a very dangerous world. When I asked John McCain about your national security credentials, he cited the fact that you have commanded the Alaskan National Guard and that Alaska is close to Russia. Are those sufficient credentials?

PALIN: But it is about reform of government and it's about putting government back on the side of the people, and that has much to do with foreign policy and national security issues Let me speak specifically about a credential that I do bring to this table, Charlie, and that's with the energy independence that I've been working on for these years as the governor of this state that produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy, that I worked on as chairman of the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, overseeing the oil and gas development in our state to produce more for the United States.

GIBSON: I know. I'm just saying that national security is a whole lot more than energy.

...These bastards are not even trying to pretend.

Palin proved that she doesn't know her azz from a hole in the ground.

TruthSeeker: I know! I know! This is a blog. I'm suppose ta talk! But that "interview" has rendered me speechless!! :>) :>)

There are not enough adjectives, that I can write here, to describe the ANSWERS???? of "The Gov." I am so through!! :>) :>)

I'm going to wait for others to ANALYZE it! :>) I am absolutely whipped that someone that "clueless" is in that position! On the other hand, I HAVE SEEN this HAPPEN during my entire career with "incompetent colleagues and supervisors!"

Whew! Clueless Deep Breaths!! :>) :>) :>)


P.s. What happened to the pageant wave?? That's what all those ANSWERS???? seemed to have merited!! I am so through!! :>) :>)

What did you think about the interview.

I saw excerpts of this on CNN and of course they were scrambling to make this seem okay - they couldn't even do it with a straight face. She said the Bush Doctrine is his world view - wow! CNN pundits tried to say that most Americans don't know what the Bush Doctrine is. Uhhh, most Americans aren't the possible next vice president's of the country who could one day be in charge.

The prospect of this woman being in the white house scares the hell out of me.

Obama said he respects small town mayors - they have to trim trees and make sure the garbage gets picked up..

LOL!!

That went right over my head. ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

That went right over my head. ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!

I was lmao just imagining Sarah's face squinch up into her little Tracy Flick face, ha!

I saw the excerpts. She was underwhelming. She sounded exactly like someone who'd been carefully coached on what not to say. She's just like McCain, unremarkable.

They say she had no clue about the Bush Doctrine; Chunky Charlie had to explain it to her.

I think even he was shocked when he asked what she thought about and she replied from what perspective and something else from him and then she said it's his world view and he then knew that she didn't know so he explained it for her. It was embarrassing - her lip quivered and her voice changed - she knew she had screwed up.

She also said we should go to war without blinking!

I saw excerpts of this on CNN and of course they were scrambling to make this seem okay - they couldn't even do it with a straight face. She said the Bush Doctrine is his world view - wow! CNN pundits tried to say that most Americans don't know what the Bush Doctrine is. Uhhh, most Americans aren't the possible next vice president's of the country who could one day be in charge.

The prospect of this woman being in the white house scares the hell out of me.

she is a NUT JOB. the more she speaks the more I can't believe that she was even nominated as VP. She might be crazier/stupider than Bush

I am glad I didn't know she was going to be on today.

Hey Anybody heard from pjamma?

Hey pjamma - I sent you an email earlier this week. We have a referral program going on at work and you talked about a job late last week. Check your email and shoot me a note if you are interested.

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It is my 10 year anniversary this year. I have been working from home for 8 years now. Let me know if you are no longer interested and I will stop checking on openings.

Where are the jobs located or are all of them work from home?

We are a global company. There are positions that are at the main offices in almost every state and we are all over the world. There are telecommuting options, mobile (half in office/half home/maybe at client site), you can work flexible days (I work full time 4 day work week, some work full days 3 days a week etc.) Our company pushes/encourages most of its employees to work from home if possible so as long as you have internet connection you can pretty much work from Timbucktoo as as you can stay connected and are available via sametime (instant messaging, email and call in to your scheduled conference calls).

I have family that may be interested. Would they simply go to the IBM
website or is there a special link?

Unbelievable - McCain and Palin have even more in common...geez

In 1994, John McCain voted against legislation -- pushed through Congress by Joe Biden -- that helped put an end to the practice of charging rape victims for sexual assault exams.

Twisted as it may sound, charging victims for a forensic exam was a real problem. For example, as AMERICAblog has documented (and the media is now reporting), when Sarah Palin was mayor of Wasilla, the town charged rape victims for the exams.

Biden's legislation required that state, local, and Indian governments provide the rape exams to victims free of charge as a condition of receiving federal funds under the Violence Against Women Act. In 2000, Alaska finally passed state legislation in order to qualify for federal funding.

McCain not only opposed Biden's legislation, but also has voted against funding it as recently as October 2007.

Here's the text of the rape exam provision in Biden's legislation:

H.R.3355: Violent Crime Control
and Law Enforcement Act of 1994

SEC. 2005. RAPE EXAM PAYMENTS.

`(a) RESTRICTION OF FUNDS-

`(1) IN GENERAL- A State, Indian tribal government, or unit of local government, shall not be entitled to funds under this part unless the State, Indian tribal government, unit of local government, or another governmental entity incurs the full out-of-pocket cost of forensic medical exams described in subsection (b) for victims of sexual assault.

`(2) REDISTRIBUTION- Funds withheld from a State or unit of local government under paragraph (1) shall be distributed to other States or units of local government pro rata. Funds withheld from an Indian tribal government under paragraph (1) shall be distributed to other Indian tribal governments pro rata.

`(b) MEDICAL COSTS- A State, Indian tribal government, or unit of local government shall be deemed to incur the full out-of-pocket cost of forensic medical exams for victims of sexual assault if any government entity--

`(1) provides such exams to victims free of charge to the victim;

`(2) arranges for victims to obtain such exams free of charge to the victims; or

`(3) reimburses victims for the cost of such exams if--

`(A) the reimbursement covers the full cost of such exams, without any deductible requirement or limit on the amount of a reimbursement;

`(B) the reimbursing governmental entity permits victims to apply for reimbursement for not less than one year from the date of the exam;

`(C) the reimbursing governmental entity provides reimbursement not later than 90 days after written notification of the victim's expense; and

`(D) the State, Indian tribal government, unit of local government, or reimbursing governmental entity provides information at the time of the exam to all victims, including victims with limited or no English proficiency, regarding how to obtain reimbursement.

Miranda, could you provide a link. I read at a silly blog that thinks that maybe there is no difference between McCain and Obama and if the dems lose it will in the end strengthen the party. I need to plant something in the reptillian brain as their conscious brain is spinning crap.

Thanks!

Watching the interview. Typing thoughts as I'm watching....

Palin is not ready. She's nervous throughout the interview and it seemed like she was too busy trying to remember the answers the Bush aides gave her.

She avoided the question about foreign policy experience. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine is! LOL!

Gibson: Do you believe in the Bush Doctrine?
Palin: In what respect Charlie?

LOL!

This chick is as nervous as a whore in church!

On Russia.....

Palin: You can see Russia from Alaska! Yup! Yup!

Can you say 3am phone call?
You better HOPE she ain't the one answering

No Gaffes. This interview will not lose her any support.

Was it on the evening news?

Well, well, well
EXCLUSIVE: GOV. SARAH PALIN WARNS WAR MAY BE NECESSARY IF RUSSIA INVADES ANOTHER COUNTRY

http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/sto...

When asked by Gibson if under the NATO treaty, the U.S. would have to go to war if Russia again invaded Georgia, Palin responded: "Perhaps so. I mean, that is the agreement when you are a NATO ally, is if another country is attacked, you're going to be expected to be called upon and help.

"And we've got to keep an eye on Russia. For Russia to have exerted such pressure in terms of invading a smaller democratic country, unprovoked, is unacceptable," she told ABC News' Charles Gibson in an exclusive interview.

Gibson should've asked a follow-up question about whether or not we have adequate military to help Georgia considering we're already in Iraq and Afghanistan.

well, well, well indeed.

I won't be able to watch it. TS, I need you to take one for the team and come back with the goods. I am not sure if I can watch that "cocky wacko" (see below)

(CNN) – Former Rhode Island Sen. Lincoln Chafee was known for keeping a low-key profile on Capitol Hill, but the Republican -turned -Independent is making waves with his exceedingly blunt comments on newly-minted Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin:

She's a "cocky wacko," he told a Washington think tank earlier this week.

Chafee, the lone Senate Republican to vote against the Iraq war who endorsed Obama's White House bid earlier this year, told an audience at the New America Foundation in Washington Tuesday that Palin's selection has energized Obama backers.

"People were coming into my office, phone calls were flooding in, e-mails were coming in, 'I just sent money to Obama, I couldn't sleep last night' — from the left. To see this cocky wacko up there," he said.

He also described McCain's candidacy as "lackluster” and described the selection of Palin as a throwing "this firestorm, this tornado, into the whole presidential election."

Obama Advancing On The Ground, Under Pollsters' Radar
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-nichanian/...

The most impressive numbers come from Florida (441,225 new voters, 45% of which are Democrats and half of which are under 35), Michigan (where 63% of the 411,207 new voters are under 35), North Carolina (429,059 new voters, 49% of which are Democrats and 55% of which are under 35) and Pennsylvania (where an outstanding 67% of the 286,255 new voters are Democrats and 69% are under 35). Remarkable numbers as well out of Nevada (where 110,124 new voters is a lot considering the state’s size, especially as 53% of them are new voters) and Ohio (65% of the 255,587 new voters are under 35).

TruthSeeker: DATA/STATISTICS![accurate 2!! :>) :>) That's what I'm talking about!! :>) :>)

Finally, in the NYTimes top-10 emailed, is this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics/1...

Email it to your friends, keep it in the top 10

All - I made a comittment to stay off blogs for a few days and instead go out and register more voters for Barack. Don't fall for the hype with the fake "the sky is falling" posts. We WILL win this election. If you have doubts . . . keep them to yourself. Something to be said about the power of words when they leave your lips (even if the words are written on this post).

We WILL win this election simply because we can't afford to lose. I know I intend to fight for me and mine. I suggest you do the same and ignore the "noise" from the folks who are posting talking points here at JJP to cause you to doubt. Don't fall for it. Blessings All.

Go Obama/Biden/WE THE PEOPLE

Obama needs a 100,000 plus pep rally here in the US. Fuck all of the celebrity criticisms. They work! I think part, if not most, of the reason that many of us are so worried is because we feel helpless to do anything. Yes, were donating and canvassing and registering new voters, but without those daily visuals of masses of Obama supporters on televsion, it sort of feels like we're out her alone. We need a huge pep rally for the troops. He needs to tell us to stop worrying about the polls and to fight back. Tell us to stop worrying about McCain and Palin and the one-sided media attention and just keep knocking on doors, registering voters and taking our message to the people. Right now it just feels like Palin is sucking up all of the energy of this Campaign. We need our energy back!

NMP writes: Yes, were donating and canvassing and registering new voters, but without those daily visuals of masses of Obama supporters on televsion, it sort of feels like we're out her alone.

NMP, wait a minute, are you really saying that if you don't get the right "mass rally" visuals from the television -- from the TELEVISION! -- you feel alone and powerless?

I can't fathom that. I can't. I mean really, that strikes me as a manifestation of deep psychological conditioning that twists and distorts what human connection and effective action is all about.

You're not alone in your active support for Senator Obama. Don't look to the TV to tell you how to feel on this, please please don't.

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Also, it's not quite right as a response to you, NMP, but still I am going to re-post a comment I initially posted on dailykos a few days ago because it seems like there are a lot of flavors of this desire for inspiration going on:

The person I was responding to had written: We want him to inspire us to FIGHT those ratfucking bastards.

And I replied:

Not me!

I want him to win the election.

Serving my psychological needs -- I don't need him to do that.

We (people on this site [dailykos] for example) need to be grown-ups. Don't look to Senator Obama to inspire you to fight. Do what is needed that you can do, because it needs to be done.

Agreed. No offense to all here, but I am so tired of this mealy mouth stuff. Why do you need a rally to get inspired? Obama just had +85,000 people watch his acceptance speech. He has been saying that "we are the ones we have been waiting for." But people ignore it. Its not about him, its about us. And if people are just going to sit on their hands and complain or keep talking about what Obama should do instead of actually helping and doing something themselves, then we are going to end up with the same result as the last two elections.

he got 84,000 in Denver. That's not good enough?

true because after the race speech, like Ye' said could't tell me nothing!

and some effective surrogates. His surrogates suck, the 1 or 2 you see. I feel like he is out there along. I am not a Biden hater. I understand he can't pay for coverage at a rally.

I mean the ones on cable news. The only ones he has are former HRC supporters and they aren't doing it for me...

ABC On Troopergate: Women's Groups Rally Against Palin
ABC investigates Sarah Palin's trooper scandal, and finds women's groups in Alaska are rallying against the governor.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/abc-on...

"...it's also clear that he hasn't been able to stay on offense. John McCain has been trying to force Obama into a debate not about who's the "change" candidate, but who's the "maverick." For if Obama is voting with his fellow Democrats almost 100 percent of the time in the Senate...is he really a guy who's gonna change anything?..."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26641593/

It's not about voting for Party, but who voted for disatrous policies. That would be John McCain!

For your viewing pleasure Trolly McTroll

The Maverick and the Celebrity Con Man (or woman)

It's even more sad about KK because of Barack. He's already under enough without another brotha fitting all of the negative stereotypes.

What does Kwame Kilpatrick have to do with Barack Obama?

If somebody decides not to vote for Obama because of what Kilpatrick did, they weren't going to vote for Obama in the first place.

And if it's all that, just put up a picture of a random thug and compare him to Obama, bump Kilpatrick.

Co-sign

Town: Thank you!! :>) :>) Co-signing!! :>)

rikyrah: From HuffPost:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/fooled-...
Foiled Again

It's happening again. Regardless of the outcome of this thing, it's clear that half of America is falling for the same superficial trickery that gave us eight years of George W. Bush. You know the routine. Who do you want to have a beer with? Who is more plainspoken? Who would you like to drive your kids to hockey?

Only this time around, America is exponentially worse off than it was in 2000 or 2004, which only makes the degree to which certain voters are being tricked all the more infuriating and incomprehensible. Show of hands: have you gone all Howard Beale yet this week?

It's no wonder why Americans are ignoring issues that are literally right in front of their faces.

We all know why this is happening. Senator Obama said it during his convention acceptance speech in Denver:

Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.
You make a big election about small things.

Small things. Like lipstick. And the Republicans get away with it because everyone with barbecue sauce stains on their mouths will, as Scarborough inadvertently admitted, talk about it.

t's no wonder why a baffling number of Americans are refusing to vote based on the issues happening literally in their own back yards. And so we have a Republican ticket -- a ticket that exactly matches in every way the Bush-Cheney administration -- enjoying an incongruously high level of polling support, despite the situation on the ground in almost every American town and suburb.

Given their record of success in years past, it's no wonder why the Republicans do what they do. But this goes beyond cause and effect. It's their nature. They're simply unable to govern, so all they have left are their basest, most cynical and depraved instincts. Their presidential ticket is composed of two incompetent, corrupt liars who want to continue the Bush legacy (while also lying about their "change" message). But they're good at whining; they're good at smearing; and they excel at fear-mongering. John McCain has fully embraced Karl Rove's brand of insect politics.

And I remain very confident that Senator Obama is going to win this time. My mantra: the Obama team defeated the most powerful and popular Democratic brand in America. His campaign is the most disciplined we've seen in decades. His financial resources are record-breaking. Yet, if McCain ends up winning this thing, we can only conclude that it's because he so fully embraced a form of Rove Republican politics -- tactics so unprecedented in their deceitfulness and snark that they will have successfully obscured a full decade of undisputed failure, not to mention what Mort Zuckerman called this week "the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression."

In the face of all of this, can anyone seriously deny that John McCain and the Bush Republicans are successfully fooling Americans -- again?

I highlighted: Karl Rove's brand of INSECT POLITICS :>) :>)

P.S. These are excerpted paragraphs - NOT the whole article! :>) :>)

P.P.S: Look at the first comment!! Spells out all the Repug. "ISSUES" !! :>)

Because if you don't have any fresh ideas, then you use stale tactics to scare the voters. If you don't have a record to run on, then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.
You make a big election about small things.


1) Because if you don't have any fresh ideas...
Obama's speech contained nothing more than a laundry list of boilerplate Democrat proposals.

2)...then you use stale tactics to scare the voters.
And Obama and the Dems aren't trying to scare voters about the 'crazy old hot head McAncient' and his 'small town, gun totin', bible thumpin' creationist who is going to force women into back alley abortions' VP candidate.

3) If you don't have a record to run on...
Obama's thin resume speaks for itself. BTW, did you know Jesus was a community organizer? LOL

4)...then you paint your opponent as someone people should run from.
Read any open thread here at JJP re: McCain and Palin? ROTFLMHO

5) You make a big election about small things.
Obama is now, with the Letterman interview tonight, sending DAY 3 talking about 'lipstick." McCain and Palin are talking about 'Reform" and "Shaking things up in Washington."

As much as Palin and McCain scream about lipstick you'd think they owned stock in Maybelline.

Town: LOL!!!! :>) :>)

McCain and Palin arent talking reform, they are talking how "outraged" and "offended" they are about the lipstick comment. They dont want this election to be about issues. McCain's own campaign manager said that.

they want it to be about small, idiotic things like this. So McCain can continue to hide behind Palin's skirt.

1. Barack Obama is the Democratic nominee, sir. If his speech contained a laundry list of boilerplate Republican proposals, I doubt he'd have gotten much shine from 85k in Mile High Stadium.

2. Stale tactics like lying about a piece of legislation Obama voted for but didn't pass. Make one of those lies really juicy, like...sex ed for kindergartners. And make a web ad about it, too.

3. "The record's clear: John McCain has voted with George Bush 90 percent of the time. Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but, really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush has been right more than 90 percent of the time? I don't know about you, but I am not ready to take a 10 percent chance on [GOP] change."

You left that part out, indie.

4. Conservatives are still trying to stick Jeremiah Wright, Tony Rezko, and William Ayers to Barack Obama. Hasn't worked, won't work. In regards to this site, every thread I've seen has been good at hammering home one undeniable point: John McCain didn't pick Sarah, Plain & Tall to serve. He picked her to win an election. (You know, kinda in the same vein that Obama allegedly wants to lose the war?)

5. A comedy show that spent the first interview segment talking about a comical issue. Negro (actual or pretend) please, that's all you got? You obviously didn't stick around for the other parts discussing troops in Iraq, fixing the economy, loving his family, and reinforcing the basic tenets of his candidacy.

The candidate also summed up the difference in his campaign best: McCain & Wife have been talking about change and reform for two weeks. Obama and his supporters have been talking AND walking for change in Washington for almost two years.

Nate_Wesley: Hey! :>) :>) Thank you!! :>) :>) WELL SAID!!

Partisan Indie: POOF!!

Obama's First Mission: Convince the Clinton's they have nothing to gain from a Palin victory but everything to lose.

I have no doubt that the Clintons are thoroughly enjoying watching Senator Obama's current Palin predicament. I can't blame her; it's natural. But after a good and perhaps well entitled hearty laught, she has to make a decision about her future. Whether she wants to replace Kennedy as the unofficial leader of the Senate or run for the presidency again, either aspiration would be dimmed by a Palin victory this year.

If Palin isn't taken down before November, a 60 vote Democractic majority isn't likely. Palin will defintely help with some down ticket races if her popularity and mythical persona endure. So that would lessen any real chance of Clinton having the space to emerge as a female Lyndon Johnson of the Senate. If she wants to run for President again, which is obvious, she's has to maintain her position as the most powerful female politician in the country-- and President in waiting. She can't do that with Palin as Vice President. Let's be real, it would be a sad spectacle, like Ali fighting after his prime, watching a 64 year-old woman whose biggest claim to experience is marriage to a President going up against a self-made woman who the nation has been admiring for four years juggling 5 kids and the Vice Presidency and her youthful looks (keeping it real). It doesn't matter how exceedingly knowledgeable and capable Hillary Clinton is, she would come off as an old, embittered, old school feminist. Moreover, she will have lost the trailblazing quality of her candidacy, which was her strongest appeal to women.

If the Clintons looks at this strategically, they will agree that it's better for 68-year-old Clinton with significant legislative accomplishments (universal health care) or Secretary of Defense to take on Mitt Romney or any white man rather than a 50-year-old incumbent Vice President, ex beauty queen and mother of five.

The Clintons only goal is to become the heads of the modern Democrat Party. If Obama wins, they will be permanently deposed.

The Clintons will do all they need to do to be seen as helping Obama, but make no mistake, they are personally convinced that he cannot, will not win, and they will revel in and patiently wait for the day when the party comes crawling back to say, 'you were right.'

They don't have an interest in being some figurative heads of the Democratic Party or momentary satisfaction of 'I told you so'. They want the White House back.

For themselves. Are you truly so naive?

No, I'm not naive. Of course they want the White House back for THEMSELVES. All I'm saying is that the chances of that lessens if Clinton decides to bail on Obama now and aims to take on Palin as an incumbent Vice President who the nation will watch day-to-day and have more affection for than Clinton.

For the Biden Bashers The media ain't reporting it but Biden's out there on the stump every single day, nearly over filling venues as he talks abou the issues, hitting the oppostion party's candidates hard on the issues.

Check out all the videos; he's reaching the voters and they are getting it, and eating it up. McCaint doesn't get it; consequently, he and his VP pick can't sell it; but Barack and Joe can and are.

But 99 Percent, haven't you gotten the Metaphysical Memo?

If it does not happen on the television, it is not happening.

It's like that tree falling in the forest thing.

Senator Biden might think he is doing something and the people he is actually speaking with might think they are real voters in an actual interaction with a VP nominee .... but actually, metaphysically, nothing is actually happening because unless it's on the tv it's not real.

:)

PS this goes for all aspects of the Obama campaign's ground game. If it's not reported on the TV it's not actually happening. Someone needs to let the canvassers and callers know this.

How many voters? Television is the larges medium to reach the largest target audience. If just for a day, Obama needs a huge rally to re-energize Democrats. Visuals matter. Obama allowed the McCain Campaign to trick him into believing that his big rallies were a liability. The hard truth is people want to vote for a winner. Visuals matter! And right now McCain and Palin look like winners while Obama looks like the old guy in the golf cart. Tom Toles has a great cartoon on this today in WaPo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/opinions/c...

Bullshit NMP.

Obama can draw crowds. He already locked in his base. Now he needs to work with the folks who don't trust him completely as yet. He needs to do what he is doing. Keep it small and intimate. Allowing them to ask the questions, feel him out and get to know him. Stop posting trash about Obama needing to re-engergize -- he has been on the road for 2 years. Get off your duff and have a session at your home and do your part. Visuals do matter - he takes time to sit and talk to you and he is listening to your concerns and addressing them as if it is important to him in the same way it is important to you. I am not even going to touch Palin to tell you what she looks like much less stands for. But that is moot as the person we are running against is John McCain. His policies will not help me or my family.

Go away with that trash.

JJP. Where is the holy oil. You need another virtual exorcism on your website. Get these demons off of your blog. Later all. Enough daylight to knock on a few more doors.

99% Sure: I've been trying to bring articles where the media/journalists are being criticized for NOT being journalist, but, "sensationalist!!" [I don't know if this is the correct term, but, I hope you get the concept! :>) :>)]

Of course, it is obvious that the controlled media are still --

CONTROLLED

Thank you for "bring it!!!" :>) :>) :>)

Will be making those calls 2-day!! :>) L8R!! :>) :>)

Off this topic: Saw Karen Tumulty [Time Mag]: Re "The Gov." Some white women seem to be supporting her even if they don't agree with her on the ISSUES. -um, -uh Aren't we suppose to be considering the "issues" in order to determine who to vote for??? MY BAD!! :>) :>) :>)

No, because as you know, black people are only voting for Barack Obama because he's black, so why do black people have a problem that white women are voting for Sarah Palin only because she's a white woman? If black people don't consider the issues, why should they? [/snark]

Town: Thank you sooooo much for your rational/logical discourse!! :>) :>) NOW I get it!! :>) :>) :>)

Whew! Logical Deep Breaths!! :>) :>) :>)

Are you being sarcastic?

No.

Let me tell you one mother fuckin' thing. Black people may be pre-disposed to vote Black, but we vote our conscious, principles and ideals. We have NEVER abandoned the interests of our community or those who share our struggles in th single minded interest of racial solidarity.

I think you need to scroll the hell on with your negativity, TROLL. If you're not smart enough to detect sarcasm even after I wrote [/snark] at the end of the post, you aren't smart enough for anything.

100 points for you!

Town: Guess /snark wasn't in the dictionary/lexicon when somebody went ta school!! :>) :>) And "somebody" hasn't learned since! :>) :>)Oh well!! :>) :>)

"Merrily they TROLL along."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcmXiB5_lQ8&feat...
Merrily We Roll Along

ENJOY!!! :>) :>)

Now you know this is going to irritate D.
He wants the 100 points. :-)
(Just trying to help a brother out :-))

Wait, NMP is D?

If so, damn, I fell for it.

PS Admiral Komack, I loved your Zephram Cochrane VP comment from a couple days ago. That's right!

Thank you, Michelle.
I don't think NMP is D.

No, I don't think NMP is D.

Admiral: LOL!! :>) :>)

Town: LOL! :>) :>) Good answer!!! :>) :>)

rikyrah: Love The Pinocchio Test :>) :>) :>)

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2...
McCain Attacks on Education - Fact Checker

The Facts

Education Week bills itself as the "journal of record" for education professionals. In March last year, it ran a generally positive article about Obama, describing him as one of several Democratic candidates with a demonstrated interest in education policy. The article noted that Obama had gained considerable "grassroots experience" of education problems in Chicago as the member of a board of a school reform initiative known as the Annenberg Challenge. It went on to say that he had not made "a significant mark on education policy" in either the Illinois Senate or the U.S. Senate, but had pushed for the expansion of early childhood education.

The McCain ad includes captions attributing the quotes on accountability and Obama's alleged support for "the existing public school monopoly" to a Washington Post editorial and an op-ed in the Chicago Tribune. (Needless to say, the ad omitted the Post's criticism of McCain for failing to come up with a detailed education plan.) But a casual viewer or listener could easily get the impression that all the quotes came from Education Week.

The McCain ad is wrong when it claims--in a voice dripping with sarcasm--that Obama's "one accomplishment" in the education field was the sex education bill for kindergartners. While it is true that Obama supported the bill, he was not one of the sponsors. As far as kindergartners were concerned, the principal purpose of the bill was to make them aware of the risk of inappropriate touching and sexual predators. Other states, including California and Massachusetts, have passed similar legislation.

Obama was more closely identified with other education legislation in the Illinois State Senate, including a 2003 bill to double the number of Chicago charter schools from 15 to 30, which he co-sponsored. On substance, Obama has attempted to tread a fine line between his opposition to vouchers and his support for greater choice for parents, including support for charter schools. In a speech in Dayton earlier this week, he proposed doubling the funding for "responsible charter schools," along the lines of the earlier Chicago experiment.
The Pinocchio Test

Nobody expects television ads to be fair and objective analyses of public policy. Almost by definition, the ads are partisan sales pitches, designed to promote one political brand while running down the rival brand. But they should not misrepresent the record of the other side and should clearly distinguish quotes from non-partisan news sources from standard political rhetoric. The McCain "education" ad fails this test.

(About our rating scale.)

MsKitty: I love it!

I also wonder, has anyone else noticed this pattern where Senator Obama's opponents use names and images and music and the actual people behind them come out and say ... um, no!

Like the 3AM girl with Clinton who turned out to be a Obama supporter and volunteer (Casey I think her name is). And various musicians who don't want their stuff used by ... well, it might have started with Clinton somewhere in the Midwest (was it Springsteen or Mellencamp who didn't want their songs used by Clinton).

And various artists with McCain, the most recent of which was Heart who are going to donate the royalties they get from the Republicans to The Obama campaign. And others -- who was it who was suing the McCain/Repubs recently for wrong use of a song in their campaign, was that Jackson Brown or someone else? And the school Board supervisor at Wheeler middle school who criticized McCain on education after they used the image of the scool w/o permission at the Republican convention. And now Lynda Carter on Palin.

I wonder if anyone has made a complete list of all this stuff. I think it's hilarious! And telling.

I meant, school.

Yes I can spell, I learned it in scool.

I've got a conservative friend who grew up with a big time crush on Lynda Carter.

He will not be pleased when I email him those links.

MsKitty: GOOD GET!!! :>) :>)

Michelle Obama Fries Shrimp with Paula Deen

"It was an impressive first attempt ... I must have really been in love," Michelle Obama told Paula Deen of her attempt to make seafood gumbo – including lobster, shrimp and mussels! – on an early date with future husband Barack Obama. "No, I haven't cooked it since."

"It was so good that once was enough," Deen responded. The wife of the Democratic nominee for President appears on Deen's Food Network show, Paula's Party, on Sept. 20, and the host can attest it was more than her cooking that did the trick with the Senator.

"She was everything I thought she would be: Smart, great sense of humor and loves to talk about family," Deen told PEOPLE of meeting Mrs. Obama.

The pair prepared fried shrimp for Deen's show and Deen said, "I can tell she spends time in the kitchen – she was very relaxed when we cooked. And that lady is a good eater."

Not that it shows. "Did I tell you she is in the best shape ever? Everyone was staring at her amazing arms!" said Deen.

Check out the link to watch the short video.

What if Obama were a White Republican? And What if Sarah Palin were a black Democrat?

An experiment at:

http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/200...

Sarah Palin could NEVER be a black democrat. Period.

Clearly they do not have an understanding about the limitations that Obama is operating under by virtue of who he is.

If they wanted a fighter, they should have nominated Hillary.

Obama has many limitations and so many unrealistic expectations were placed on him, by himself and his supporers.

The frustration they have with Obama, is also frustration with themselves as they realize that they nominated another weak candidate.

"If they wanted a fighter, they should have nominated Hillary."

Pre or post Tuzla?

If he's so weak, why are McCain and Palin copying him?

Town: Co-sign! :>)

Co-sign

Are these the same Democratic strategists who haven't won an election since 1992?

OK.

I think many people have the "Barack is an inadequate black male" meme implanted in their minds. Harriet Christian was the only one man or woman enough to come out and say it.

They completely lose me when they start saying Barack should be more like the black man in some movie or TV show....LOL....that is so offensive and so damn funny at the same time.

Morgan Freeman drove Miss Daisy and is in 50-11 movies being Ashley Judd's sidekick.

Will Smith routinely fights aliens every July 4. Oh, I forgot when he was homeless living in the bathroom and he had to kiss the white people's ass to get that internship with Smith Barney.

Denzel gets acclaim when he's playing shady but smooth characters.

I guess they want Obama to bust out in a stump speech "Call me Mr. Obama!"

LOL.........not that I wouldn't mind seeing him slap the ish outta Karl Rove...LOL

LOL...

That's what I was thinking when I read and rec'd Town's post - that was akin to one of the black Freedom Riders slapping Bull Connor back in the day when Sidney slapped his white co-star back. Sidney put some R&B soul in that slap too. My favorite scene in what was to me an otherwise boring movie. "They call me Mister Tibbs!"

Eh hee!

The Article by Arianna Huffington:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffingto...

rikyrah: From WashPost: During this time when vetting appears to be the watch word, Paul Farhi looks at the campaign ads in this light!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...
The Ads That Aren't: candidates let the media spread the message

When Democrats turned their attention to national security themes at their nominating convention last month, Sen. John McCain's campaign was ready. In a withering TV commercial called "Tiny," McCain claimed that Sen. Barack Obama had called Iran a "tiny" country that "doesn't pose a serious threat."

As reporters scrambled to vet the claims -- which, it reportedly turned out, distorted Obama's comments -- few noticed something curious about the commercial itself: "Tiny" appeared almost nowhere on the air except in news accounts. Since introducing the much-discussed commercial two weeks ago, in fact, McCain's campaign has bought airtime for it just 10 times.

The McCain ad, in other words, wasn't really much of an ad at all.

In political parlance, "Tiny" was a "vapor," or "ghost," ad. The goal of such spots is to stir up news-media interest rather than to reach voters directly through the purchase of expensive TV time.

Campaign ads-that-aren't are "the oldest trick going," says Kenneth Goldstein, a University of Wisconsin political scientist who tracks political advertising. "You call a press conference, announce the ad, then run it once or twice. It's like Lucy pulling the football from Charlie Brown."

The author goes on to say that both campaigns have used this technique.

Tracey says vapor ads may be increasing in frequency due to the rise of YouTube and the proliferation of political blogs. Before they were around, it was more difficult for a campaign to persuade reporters to do stories on a new ad until it was in wide circulation, he says. But nowadays, Tracey says, the ad is on the Internet somewhere almost as soon as a candidate announces it, providing an immediate justification for making a news story out of what is little more than a video press release.

Finally:

TV stations that air the ads as news "end up making the campaign's point for them, with exactly the words and pictures" the campaign wants, he adds. "The campaign is getting a willing partner in the media because [the media is] filling in the rest of the story for them."

But the news media's willingness to turn over airtime for such unfiltered messages troubles some journalists. "Reporters and news executives fall for this every time," says Brooks Jackson, a veteran political reporter who runs the Annenberg Center's FactCheck.org, which vets political speeches and other campaign statements. He says the ads' flashy images and inflammatory rhetoric make them "irresistible" to TV stations.

"When [the campaigns] tell people that an ad is going to be seen and talked about by everyone, it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy" when stations put it on the air, Jackson says. With YouTube and such popular Web sites as Drudge.com, however, "the gatekeeper function that the news media executives used to perform is long gone."

At the very least, Jackson says, the news media should be "pushing back" by sorting out what's true and what's false in the ads.

IMO: Here's another area where Mr. Obama is using his "game-winning strategies!!"
Seems as if the media has "vetted" the recent "McAncient" ads as

VAPORS/GHOSTS. POOF!!! :>) :>)

This is really, fundamentally, about the news being narcissistically obsessed with themselves -- reporting on ads is just like reporting on news. And the blog culture, the one that keeps posting articles about ads and news reporting, is just fueling it even more.

Not that there's anything we can do about it.

I stan for Melissa Lacewell Harris and this is why. She is succinct smart and accessible. She was on Rachel Maddow and I was so pleased. I hope she becomes a regular; since I stan for Maddow, too.

See excerpt from the Kitchen Table blog below. Take a "field trip" to her blog if you have the time to see her analogy on how McCain/Palin is terrorizing America

"These people have nothing to lose. They are willing to blow up the whole system in order to have their way. It does not matter if they destroy the environment, ruin the economy, undermine citizens' capacity to believe in their country, bend the democratic process, lie boldly and repeatedly, continue an immoral war, and plant seeds of racial and gender discontent. It does not matter as long as they appeal to the lowest instincts of mob mentality in order to hold onto their power. The GOP's ridiculous, ruthless, and dishonest attacks and distractions are just startling. I shudder to think of the ugly we are going to see in the next two months."

Obama '08

http://princetonprofs.blogspot.com/

OMG, You guys. McBush's new interview. PA-THE-TIC!

This guy should NOT be President. No. No. No.

T.

OH MY GOD - If they don't find Obama in Bed with a dead boy, THEY ARE GOING DOWN IN A BALL OF FLAMES.

This was so bad, I couldn't watch the whole video - he's almost senile. He had about twenty brain farts in about two minutes.

His kids really need to step in and tell their father to go take a nap. Sometimes you just have to do that with senior citizens. You just have to go there. We had to take my grandmama's license from her. Its the circle of life, you just gotta reel'em in when you see they're getting in their own way. Like toddlers. McCain is tired. He sounds tired, looks tired, moves tired. Time for him to take a nice nap.

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Whistleblower_bre...

Whistleblower spills the tea on Cindy McCain's drug addiction.

Uh-oh, Town!
Now you've done it!
You've made Elisabeth Hasselbeck cry!

ybguide: Well, I took a "Field Trip" over to your site. Nice letter!! :>) :>) But, admittedly, I hadta do a lot of research [which you provided :>) :>)]in order to get the Napoleon Dynamite message. :>) :>) And, I think I got it!! :>) :>)

Thanks for the post! :>)

Gov Plain is a distraction but her beliefs have opened the floor for a serious discussion of her religious and social beliefs-which are closer to Bush than McCain. Over at Pam's House blend they posed 5 questions for her. Let's ask them of McCain and avoid the distraction.
http://pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do;jsession...

The big messaging problem we face right now is that McCain isn't a perfect fit for Bush; Palin is. She's so much Bush in a dress: she's intellectually closed, never left the US, sticks close to her friends and allies (and therefore prone to cronyism), shares out-of-the-mainstream Christian views, and talks a good "compassionate conservative" talk without actually doing anything. So how to hit her with this when we've already spent the bullet on McCain is an open question... or I suppose we can just let her fester and hope the pus boil bursts on its own.

McCaint is still a perfect fit for Shrub since he's voted with him and the rest of the repugs at least 90% of the time, during Shrub's tenure. McCaint is still a perfect fit for Shrub because McCaint is trying to replace Shrub and like Shrub is a member of the same party. McCaint is still a perfect fit for Shrub because McCaint is running for president with the same issues that Shrub campaigned with; he's using the same tactics as Shrub, and using the same tactician (Turd Blossom). Should McCaint lose, then his VP pick loses.

It's still not about the VP pick; it is about McCaint. Attack McCaint and you attack his VP pick; defeat McCaint and his VP pick is defeated. It's about McCaint; it is not about the VP pick.

Did you look at Pam's house blend?
The questions are for McCain because he bought a Bush in Gov Palin.
Bad pun. Should read McCain opted for Bush's far right Christian views in selecting Gov Palin.
The boil is oozing already. To lance it you have to ask questions.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/11/palin-...

Diaper Palin was told in July to apologize for Troopergate before it morphed into something bigger.

Off topic but I love love love this photo of Wilma Rudolph.

http://billoreilly.com/newslettercolumn?pid=24183

Bill O'Reilly discusses Obama.

Town: DING! DING! DING!! You brought another WINNER!! :>) :>)

Thank you!! :>) :>)

p.s.: I like this part of his statement, including GOD HELP HIM.

It is true that we don't know whether Senator Obama has the ability to solve complex problems, but you can say that about all presidential contenders.

Like most politicians, Obama has used guile and good luck to accumulate his power. He can be ruthless, kind, unfair, and generous. In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position-that of the most powerful person in the world.

God help him.

Wow.

O'Reilly writes:

After going mano-a-mano with Obama on television, I am also persuaded that he is a sincere guy-that he wants the best for all Americans.

and

In short, he's a real person trying to achieve an unreal position-that of the most powerful person in the world.

Wow.

I remember people saying Senator Obama was unwise to go on this person's show.

I assumed then that he knew what he was doing.

I see now: Clearly he did.

O'Reilly seems to be responding just as Senator Obama calls on people who disagree to respond. Criticism of the policies from a place of respect.

Town, thank you for posting this!

Obama's response to O'Loofah when Falafel was trying to denigrate Daily Kos was awesome.

This was an excellent move on his part; shows that he can work with people whose ideology is vastly different; shows he has the grace and the wisdom to deal with people across the aisle, an attribute that we ought to want our President to possess. This guy is not only a wonk, he's a mensch and a guy who has the quality of mediation that allows him to get things done. Imagine having him negotiating with foreign leaders. If he can deal with that blowhard egoist, O'Loofah, without losing his cool, he can deal with anyone.

99 Percent Sure, you said the things about this situation that I couldn't figure out how to put into words ... thank you so much!

This was an excellent move on his part; shows that he can work with people whose ideology is vastly different; shows he has the grace and the wisdom to deal with people across the aisle, an attribute that we ought to want our President to possess. This guy is not only a wonk, he's a mensch and a guy who has the quality of mediation that allows him to get things done. Imagine having him negotiating with foreign leaders. If he can deal with that blowhard egoist, O'Loofah, without losing his cool, he can deal with anyone.

Yes yes yes.

Speaking with doing. It's beautiful.

99% Sure: Co-sign!! Mr. Obama knows how ta play chess!!! [or any other game requiring a high level of strategic moves!!

IMHO, he used that visit to foreign countries to prove that to them as well as himself!! :>) :>) He now knows it. They want to talk to HIM!!! [even the enemies!!] And he ain't scurred of them! :>) :>) Heck, from his biographical data, he grew up in a multicultural family and in a variety of cultural environments!! I was going to say, compare his life to Shrub/"McAncient"/"The Gov." THERE IS NONE!!! :>) :>)
Just another reminder: Alaska: 75% White!! 4.5% Black

Actually, he's known for playing poker. And through most of this campaign he's been great at keeping that poker face: cool, unruffled, which might be somewhat offputting but in me inspires confidence that he's thinking, not just feeling.

I'd wager he's also a chess player - and exceptional at it. Or he at least knows the pieces, and how to set up the board, which is as much as I learned in college when the Alphas attempted to teach interested coeds how to play the game. But I digress . . .

I wouldn't be at all surprised to discover that he plays chess well, as he's made some masterful 'check' moves, yet still has most of his pieces, including his bishops, knights and his castles/rooks. In fact, he's lost only a couple of pawns even with checkmating the Clintons way back in February, and he's now using them as pawns to get to the WH. He's checked McCaint at every turn, which is why McCaint's constantly making wild moves while Obama calmly uses the time left on his clock after each move.

Yeah, he probably plays an excellent game of chess but that would make him look too elitist and Tweety and the like would crucify him for it, which is why they play up the poker player angle, with poker being so popular these days. Another good media relations strategy, as is this - The Winning Frame has Emerged -

In the wake of John McCain's 'pig' ploy scandal, I wanted to draw attention to a new frame that is taking shape at break neck speed in the debate.

I call this the 'Solve Real Problems' frame and it has the potential to set the stage for Democrats to win the election.

Sometimes, people think of framing in Presidential elections as a tug of war. We set our frame, they set theirs--whichever side pulls the hardest wins.

In fact, the more accurate metaphor is that of a chess game. Each side sets out to establish a broad, opening frame, but through a series of middle ground debates, the election ultimately arrives at an end frame--a final, compelling way to re-establish one side's opening frame, and which ultimately captures enough people's imagination to win the most votes.

'Solve Real Problems' is a pragmatic end frame emerging right now. . . . If activists recognize it and push it hard, we have the potential to turn the gains in this campaign into an election victory in November.

The guy's good, and he was wonderful on Letterman last night. I just have to shake my head - and give Michelle her props - she done good and I have to admit that I envy her. She's impressive but I envy her because she scored big time - and he did too. Yet I'm a scraight woman, so I got to give her R-E-S-P-E-C-T as well as props.

99% Sure: . . which is why they play up the poker player angle. . . .

Sooo co-signing!! Maybe that's why I didn't hear/know about this!! And I was guessing on the chess because I believe that he didn't choose to mention this for just the reason that you stated!!

Soooo, I haven't been taken off my game!!! He is a master CHESS player!!! And to quote myself . . or any other game requiring a high level of strategic moves!!!

Finally, there is a song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_QTKyIP_mE&feat...
R-E-S-P-E-C-T!!! :>) :>)

Sure, you're right, GreenLady. Anyone who has ever played chess, ever studied the game can recognize good chess moves when they see them.

Obama's made superb moves from the time he announced in Springfield until now. Notice that he's lost only one person from his campaign staff which, on hindsight, he probably saw as an error. The campaign had an Excel sheet of the states they were likely to win in the primaries and the accuracy was eerie. No doubt they have an Excel sheet for electoral votes during the GE campaign which, maybe, we'll get to see if someone "accidentally" faxes it to the news media as they did previously.

The community organization combiined with the 50-state strategy helped him win the primary and it will help him win the election since he already had at least one campaign office in most states, with well-trained grassroots people running them. When he so proudly said this

We have seen the kinds of volunteerism in our own campaign, which by the way, we're channeling not just to work on our campaign. We've had a thousand hours of community service by our volunteers not organized by us, but organized by themselves, and that's the kind of opportunity that I think we have to tap into. We sell too many of our citizens short.

He was bursting with pride tonight as he said this, as well he should have been. The guy with the help of the people, has set himself up to win, and he knows how to win - by engaging the people.

He knows that the reason that people are so energized and engaged is because he has run an inclusive campaign - of the people, by the people and for the people, thus indicating that government under his leadership will also be of the people, by the people, and for the people. Just like the Constitution says.

99% Sure: And he has the nerve to have a 50 State strategy with 7 offices in Alaska! :>) :>)

As McDonald ads say - - - -

I'm Lovin' it!! :>) :>) :>)

Anderkoo: Thanks for this info. Co-sign on the THINKING, not just feeling!! :>) :>)

But, I'm believing that he knows how to play chess and bid whist!! :>) :>) :>)

Basically, he now knows that Barack is genuine.

If Barack wins the "hard-working, white American" voters, it will be because they know it too.

That's exactly why I wasn't up in arms about BO going on O'Reilly. He really didn't have anything to lose and the Fox News viewers could see for themselves he wasn't one of satan's minions. Who knows, maybe he even won a handful of them over.

Tony Perkins of Family Research Council says what we all knew anyway...Palin simply a political pick to appease social conservatives:

http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/perkins-says-p...

RAW has an exclusice on McCain hiding Cindy'd drug problem
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Whistleblower_bre...

I saw that story on Open Left. Hopefully it will have some legs but I don't have much faith in the MSM to do anything with it.

Today would be a good day to step back and reflect on the state of the Obama campaign. Take off your partisan party hat and strap on that good ol' 'Thinking Cap."

'I am a liberal, but I'm blown away by Sarah Palin'

Here a link to help everyone here get there heads back on straight.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/portal/main.jhtml?xm...

IF left wing blogs and the lazy MSM had shown some restraint and intelligence, instead of sprinting, absoluely panicked, into the fever swamp of lies and smears, Palin could have been vetted.

If Obama has simply acknowledged her then ignored her, he could have undone some of the damage he has done to himself since the convention.

What Sarah Palin Tells Us About Obama.

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/09/...

"The character question it raises is not that he is a sexist or that he lacks courtesy. It is that he folds under pressure. Obama has looked amazingly uncomfortable under the pressure that Palin has put him under. He relies on his cool - it is a core part of his appeal. So he looks bad when he loses it. During the Hillary contest he rarely came under any pressure from the media. When he did he reacted badly."


Obama's Woes have nothing to do with 'Lipstick'

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26640489/

Obama is off message with no over arching theme. 'Change we need' has been co-opted by McCain and has morphed into 'Reform we can deliver", they can shake up Washington...McCain's been doing this his whole career and Palin has delivered on reforms in Alaska.

He is NOT George Bush, so Obama better find another line of attack. McSame isn't selling.

While many of McCain's plans are standard Republican fare, so too are many of Obama's plans, typical Democrat proposals. Higher taxes that make the rich 'pay their fair share,' Higher taxes on corporations, Billions of proposed spending on new programs, alternatives only approach to energy, more federal money for education.

McCain has seized on 'reform' and it can be summed up in a 3 E's: Earmarks. Energy. Education. McCain promises to veto any bill with earmarks. McCain proposes an 'all of the above' energy policy. McCain supports school choice and making teachers accountable to parents and students.

And finally,

Democrats Need to Shake The 'Elitist' Tag

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122109030550621...

I agree with the Times, MSNBC and WSJ, particularly the MSNBC piece (Howard Fineman). It's not just pride that is undoing Obama, but loyalty. David Plouffe and David Axelrod do not have the collective experience, attack and counter attack savvy, or killer instinct needed to win a general election campaign. Senator Obama may be a good poker player, but he clearly is not a chess player and neither are any of his key strategists. They have been totally impotent in anticipating McCain's moves or countering them. It didn't take a rocket scientist to predict that McCain would choose a woman if Obama didn't choose Hillary. Even McCain chose a woman who couldnt' completely sure up the base, she would still appeal to women, white women period? After Hillary's run, how could they have under estimated and under appreciated the desire for women, white women, to see a woman in the Oval office irrespective of her social and political views? I could go on and on, but you get the point.

As for the liberal who is 'blown away by Palin', here's by response:

Can this writer honestly say if Sarah Palin, with the same personal attributes, were a black female Republican, she would be 'blown away' and vote for her?

NO!

This article only re-enforces my view of the self-serving and often selfish attitudes of white women. It actually infuriates me to know that African Americans, like myself, have cow towed to the Democratic Party for decades being told wait your turn, but vote your interests.

Time-and-time again, well-qualified African American candidates have been denied a presence on state-wide tickets, often substitued for less qualified white women because they have more rural appeal and because white folks generally, but especially white women, can't see themselves in black candidates male or female.

Yes, black folks have gotten angry and threatened to vote for black Republicans out of spite, but when we've walked into that voting both, we've ALWAYS sided with the Democratic Party, choosing to vote our interests and the interests of others who share the same economic and social struggles regardless of color. You see it's not about seeing ourselves in the candidate but recognizing that elections are bigger than us. It's sad that this writer and her mother in a single minded desire to see a woman, a white woman, in the Oval office, can't think about black and brown kids languishing in under funded public schools or single mothers living in cities who are doing the same balancing act as Sarah Palin, but for far less money and no glory having to 'rob Peter to pay Paul' in order to afford diapers, back to school supplies and bus fare. You see, they dont' have the luxury of choosing gender over their interests.

I disagree with your assertion that white women are self-serving and selfish. I would narrow your definition to 'liberal white women.'

Condi Rice would have been widely cheered by conservative women, who admire her as much as Sarah Palin.

African Americans who always side with the Democrat Party choose to put party above their self interest.

Women, and black women in particular, who demonize and reject Sarah Palin on the basis of her party affiliation, probably have more in common with this strong, independent, grounded woman than with they choose to acknowledge.

I would argue that there are as many or more self serving and selfish conservative white women or women for that fact.

You are ranting at windmills, there is no one here that will be converted by such simplistic and points. If those are indeed talking points,

heh

Oh.....here comes the paternalistic rantings of another pilgrim.

Yeah y'all just love some single childless Condi...let Condi Rice have had a big black husband by her side. She probably would never made it to Secretary of State.

You just keep feeding yourself this s**t and voting Democrat.

I'm thinking of passing around the collection plate so we can double what they are paying to get ta's stepping!

Greenladyhere, where is my choir robe?

What would help is if people clicked the down arrow; probably the way the rating system's set up, if you get a certain number of red clicks your posts get hidden or something..

Why don't people use the rating system here anyway? Looks like there are very few of us who do so.

This person is as profane as McCaint, and he has no control over his temper, just like McCaint.

99% Sure: I'm constantly on the "Rate Down Arrow" for "some posts"!! They jes don't care!! They jes keep coming here for more!! It's about that FIRST AMENDMENT! :>) :>) It's O.K.!!! :>) :>)

I would appreciate an overall explanation of how the site works. I have discovered things along the way, but am really interested in knowing everything.

JJai: LOL!!! :>) :>) :>) :>) Hangin' up in the "Choir Room." :>) :>)

Attached is the Morning Song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dxX8YcZfWA
This morning when I rose, I didn't have no doubt!!

ENJOY!!! :>) :>)

I know the lord will take care of me. Will provide for me, Lead and guide me all the way.

rorysmomma: What part are you singing?? [soprano? alto? :>) :>) ]

Amen! :>)

alto, we can get my tone deaf aunt to sing baritone....LOL

Rorysmomma:
You know where the Choir Robes are!! :>) :>)LOL!! :>)

you are a mess!

JJai: Thank you!! :>) :>) :>)

I chose this on behalf of Mr. Obama. :>)

Bllllaaahhhh - what's 0 x 0?

You just keep changing your username and thinking no one can tell.

If only YOU were a surrogate for Obama. Well said!

Go vote for Hillary...oh, that's right, SHE LOST!

Come on now, let's be fair. The analysis is accurate, and Team Obama needs to get out that cacoon and listen. Pretending that Senator Obama now has no better odds of winning this election than McCain will not make it so. It's no over, but they are in trouble, and they need to fix it.

Indie-ed= troll.

That's a whole lotta bullshyt.

No there's some truth to what is being said. By spreading rumors no matter how baseless the left blogosphere didn't help itself therefore hurt Obama.

Exactly! They made her into a sympathetic victim. Now, the press clearly is frightened and waged they can offer to piss US off (what's new) then white women who are a larger share of their audience and revenue.

Well at least Oprah will stay strong.

So why hasn't McCain done any of this before?

Done any of what, exactly?

Fought his own party? Fought against earmarks? Stood against the NEA? Support an 'all of the above' energy policy?

Why hasn't McCain pressed for all this reform he's promising to bring to Washington? He's been there for over 25 years.

AHEM...Keating Five.

That was then, he didn't fight his party in the last 8 years. That's when it would have matter.

Immigration. Campaign Finance Reform. Global Warming. Gang of 14.
Earmarks.

Where have you been?

The party is behind him now. This is his time to lead the Republican Party and he is doing it with the pledge of "Reform." "Putting government back on the side of the people."

What has Obama done to bring meaningful change and reform to Washington? How will he do it now that he has his party behind him?

Bush was in favor of that bill and besides the bill sucked as well as Gang of 14. With respect to Global Warming, he had only done so because he is the nominee.

You mean the flip flops on immigration?

Or Keating 5?

The party isn't behind McCain, they're behind Palin. If McCain keeled over and died today, the Republicans wouldn't shed a tear, they'd just keep on keeping on with Palin.

Why elect a guy that's been there for almost 30 years doing nothing?

Fox News (yea I know) mocks blind Gov. Paterson

Where are you TruthSeeker? I guess the reThugs really did go there!

What I would like to see is a little more intelligence exhibited when journalists are reporting the news, instead of feigning naivete, when we all know damn well what levels of depravity and greed flourish within our government and within our political process. "Reckless Reporting" Is The Rage These Days

I know its not just the reporter, its also the system they work under, but damn, "do they think we're stupid?"

Could the networks really be paying all those staffers all that money to come up with the kind of copy for their newsreaders that sounds like the kind of trivial bullshit a middle schooler talks about on the back of the bus after school?

The answer to your questions, Brown Man, is yes and yes. They do think we're stupid, and yes the media do pay their staff to come up with the most trivial of topics to pass off as "news".

Problem is, just as with politics, the media have learned that the majority of consumers like their news and politics dumbed down and pre-chewed.

That's why they're so scared of Obama. They know that when he takes office, serious news will make a comeback -- whether some purposefully-naive white folks want it or not.

Jerry Lanson: Don't Be Swept Away by Hype in the Palin Campaign

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0910/p09s01-coop....

Al Giordano reminds everyone how WRONG Matt Stoller has been about the Obama campaign after Stoller gave a nice gift to the reTHUGS yesterday with a video comparing Obama to Dukakis.
Here are the links:
Stollers disgusting gift to the thugs: http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=8133

Al Giordanos smackdown ; http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield

Stoller has been hating on Obama since before the primary and frankly I have had enough....he is just angry because he thinks the Obama campaign should ask for his and other so-called A-list blogger advice...and why (he worked on the Dean campaign?...how did that work out?
by the way I love Howard Dean, but he lost!

Did anyone see the interview with Paul Begala and Katie "Everything is sexist" Couric?
(Paraphrasing)

She said: Don't you think that the phrase "lipstick" was sexist and Obama regretted saying it?

He said: Look when McCain was asked a question from a supporter that referred to Clinton as a b!tch he could have shown some real leadership, but he didn't. He laughed and said, thank you for your question. I don't think lipstick is sexist, but the B-word is!

We're inching closer to 'McCain called his wife a CUNT', which I think should be brought to the table.

There is definitely an opening her that can and should be exploited. Now that Team McCain has cried fake sexism one too many times, this gives permission to Team Obama to inform the public about McCain's blatant and crude sexism.

Wow! What show was this on?

This morning on the TODAY show. I can't watch videos at work, but I believe the video of the interview is on MSNBC's website.

For those of you who are Harry Potter fans -or not- here's a link to why Scary Palin is like the worst villiian in the whole potter series - Dolores Umbridge. This is too good a meme not to to pass along.

http://listofnow.com/?p=411

I was thinking Bellatrix Lestrange actually.

Unbelievably good analogy

Yeah it is. I saw her referred to as "Mooselini" over on the Field Negro last night (and am still chuckling this morning). I'm not sure that's a correct analogy but I liked it better than "Caribou Barbie" which cuts awfully close to the sexisim for me. But this Dolores Umbrdige is the best yet.

I'm kind of partial to Moosevita. It is a take off of Evita. She and McCain are kind of like Eva and Juan Peron.

Factcheck.org: McCain-Palin Distorts Our Finding

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/mccain-...

Miranda: I liked the very last statement! :>) :>)

Sliming Obama
Dueling chain e-mails claim he's a radical Muslim or a 'racist' Christian. Both can't be right. We find both are false.

I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!

Video- Craig Ferguson's Righteous Voting Rant
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/11/11651/5...

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Nutjob Chuck Norris Says He's Done Two Tours in Iraq
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/11/31320/1...

Oddly enough, Norris seems to be under the impression that having visited the troops twice in Iraq has somehow endowed him with a certain moral authority he can now wield against "liberals." After listening to his nearly unhinged, whackjob rant on Larry King Live last night, I came away with the feeling that Missing in Action guy felt as though he had actually sacrificed for his country by going over there; that having talked to a few "commanders," he was now a military expert.

Some people just feel they can say anything they want. The worst part is comments/people like this hardly go uncorrected. Someone needs to put him in his place.

Craig Ferguson was fantastic. I want everyone to see it. Excellent.

Co-sign. I slept in today and see Truthseeker and Paddy? beat me to posting Ferguson's rant. It was the last thing I watched before calling it a night and his rant was brillant - just brillant. It's really worth it's own mini post on JJP so that nobody misses it in all the comments and linkage.

Hey bajanlady..

It won't happen again!! LOL. I've got my sea legs and won't be around much commenting up a storm.

Yes, Craig is so right. Isn't it frustrating that so many don't vote when so much is at stake? Especially minorities! I HOPE things will be different this time. Maybe it's time to automatically register voters from data from other agencies..non-partisan registration...then have a separate, voluntary partisan registration.

In Canada, I've never registered, but each election, I get a little card in the mail telling me where to vote. They pull the info from the Revenue, Motor Vehicles, Citizenship & Immigration and census agencies. It makes it very easy.

Ahh, Canada. See that's where my Mom is from originally. She is the one
who instilled in us all the absolute duty to go and vote and to be
informed. She kept her citizenship right up until a decade ago when my
parents were living in North Carolina. She decided it was the perfect
time to go naturalize so she could vote against Jessie Helms! She may
look like Snuggles the fabric softner bear but she is hella fiesty!

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Yep,
They were chanting Obama, Obama!

rikyrah: Homage to Sister Wilma!! :>) :>) She went for and got the GOLD!! :>) :>) :>)

Arianna Spars With Chuck Norris On "Larry King" (VIDEO)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-tv/arianna-s...

Larry King is a sexist pig. Whenever there are women on his panel, and more than one speaks at the same time...he barks at them "one at a time"... Th is time, that dufus Norris talks over Arianna and he doesn't intervene to control his guest.

Anyway, Norris refuses to go on record as endorsing McCain (Palin remorse?) But lets it slip that he's "backing Palin". I suppose, just in case she & McCain blows up the world..he won't look bad.

"Larry King is a sexist pig". I noticed that last night, after the panel of women were finished, he said you have just watched the "View".

Larry likes it when there's a "catfight". He had Warren on after the Saddleback fiasco and gave him only softball questions...but that female hostage from Colombia, he asked her if she was raped. Can you imagine??

He needs to retire!

rikyrah: Food is running low in Haiti relief efforts!

http://blackpoliticsontheweb.com/2008/09/10/foo...

HEAD BOW to all. God Bless!

rikyrah: Seems as if we need ta pay some attention to the FORMER "Hip Hop Mayor's" paramour - Sista Beatty!!

http://blackpoliticsontheweb.com/2008/09/11/mic...
Michigan Eyes 90 Days for Kilpatrick Staffer

- Christine Beatty, former chief of staff and lover of Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, is facing 90 days in jail for her role in his downfall, sources say.

Beatty, who resigned her city job in January, is charged with seven felonies, including perjury, obstruction of justice and misconduct in office, all stemming from testimony she gave at a police whistle-blower trial last year, the Detroit Free Press reported Wednesday.

Beatty’s text messages to Kilpatrick indicated she had lied on the stand, including when she was asked if she had a sexual relationship with the mayor. Kilpatrick pleaded guilty to two felonies last week and resigned from office.

Kilpatrick’s deal with prosecutors will see him serve a 120-day jail sentence, and Beatty is being offered 90 days, unnamed sources told the Free Press.

The newspaper said Wayne County officials are also proposing she plead guilty to two felonies and accept five years of probation and a low six-figure restitution amount.

Christine! Christine! Christine!! And he's still with his wife!! Hmmmm!

Wow....

How sad. He gets 4 months, she's looking at possible 5 years probation AND 6 figure restitution. It's her own damned fault for standing by him instead of cutting a deal.

He also got 5 years probation and he has to pay $1 million restitution.

Kilpatrick's job options dwindle
His law license is gone; return to teaching may be difficult

After nearly seven years of access to a riverfront mansion, police chauffeurs and first-class treatment at restaurants, airports and society events, life for Kwame Kilpatrick, mayor of Detroit, will change dramatically once he becomes Kwame Kilpatrick, convicted felon and probationer.

But the change will be in more than just his station in life. His ability to move freely -- even his career options -- will be severely curtailed.

Narrower career choices
The likelihood Kilpatrick will regain his law license any time soon is a long shot.

Even if he had not pleaded guilty to two felony counts of obstruction of justice by committing perjury and no contest to one felony count of assault, the Michigan Attorney Grievance Commission would have almost certainly taken away his law license for lying under oath at a police whistle-blower trial last year.

The plea deal Kilpatrick reached with Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy on the perjury case forbids him to run for office for the next five years.

So the return to politics Kilpatrick foreshadowed when he told Detroiters last week, "You done set me up for a comeback," won't be happening any time soon.

Back to classroom?
And a return to teaching, the field in which Kilpatrick got his degree and worked at before being elected to the state House in 1996, won't be easy, either.

Kilpatrick never obtained his teaching certificate, so he worked for the Detroit Public Schools on a year-to-year basis.

The district hired him to teach at the Marcus Garvey Academy because it did not have enough teachers. Facing severe budget deficits, the district now is closing schools and may lay off teachers.

If Kilpatrick seeks work in another district, under a Michigan law enacted in 2006, certain convictions bar people from teaching or working for a school district.

A person convicted of a non-sex-related felony can teach, but they must declare their criminal record, and any school district hiring them must specifically approve the employment or work assignment in writing.

Given his charisma and connections, Kilpatrick could consider a career as a lobbyist, however.

After checking Michigan law on Friday, Secretary of State spokeswoman Kelly Chesney said: "I can't find anything that would prohibit somebody who is a convicted felon from being a lobbyist or a lobbyist agent."

Kilpatrick has not said what he will do after being released from jail. Kilpatrick spokespeople did not return messages seeking comment.

His deal with Worthy and Michigan Attorney General Mike Cox, who brought the assault charge after Kilpatrick shoved a deputy trying to serve a search warrant at his sister's house in July, requires him to step down as mayor Sept. 18.

He is to be sentenced Oct. 28 and, according to his attorney, Gerald Evelyn, is likely to be taken into custody immediately after Wayne County Circuit Judge David Groner hands down his sentence.

The sentence Kilpatrick and prosecutors agreed to calls for him to serve 120 days in jail. If he behaves while behind bars, he could get out in about 100 days, because of so-called good time credit.

Rules once he's out
Groner could impose additional restrictions on Kilpatrick that would affect his life once he is free on probation.

Judges may, but don't always, order probationers to steer clear of other felons.

That would prevent Kilpatrick from hanging out with Bobby Ferguson, a city contractor who is one of his best friends. Ferguson was convicted of pistol whipping one of his employees.

Such a restriction -- if it were imposed -- also would complicate family functions. Kilpatrick's sister, Ayanna, is married to Daniel Ferguson, a cousin of Bobby Ferguson. Daniel Ferguson served time in federal prison for drug trafficking.

Law enforcement officials familiar with probation terms said Kilpatrick will not be able to leave Michigan without the court's permission.

He also will have to meet with a probation officer regularly and pay costs associated with supervising him.

If Kilpatrick wants to move his family to the home they own in Tallahassee -- the Kilpatricks, who still are living in the city-owned Manoogian Mansion and have not disclosed their plans -- he will need the court's permission to move out of state.

Even if he gets approval in Michigan, Florida officials will have to agree to take over supervision of Kilpatrick.

Starting a career as a lobbyist in Tallahassee, the capital of Florida, could be tough. Florida law bars lobbyists from working again until they pay restitution.

That would be a huge hurdle for Kilpatrick. His plea deal requires him to pay the City of Detroit $1 million in restitution over the next five years.

So his wife is still with him for the moment but financially and professionally he's in no better shape than Beatty, and they have to be out of the Mayor's Mansion by Sept. 18, on the day he will be sentenced and will probably be incarcerated directly after.

99% Sure: ooooooo-EEEEEE!!! :>) :>) Can YOU say RESEARCH!??

YES YOU CAN!!! :>) :>) Good job!! :>) :>)

Actually, I didn't believe that his wife was with him in the Biblical sense! :>) :>) :>) She's waiting to see when/if she can extract that last penny B4 she heads out the door with a hardy "BYE! BYE! BYE! [I'll spare y'all the N'SYNC video. :>) :>) :>)

Thanks for the info. That is definitely a wake up call from the Universe.

So, that's where all the criminals go....lobbying.

We'll see if he gets to lobbyist since I suspect that Obama/Biden in the White House will change the way lobbyists do business in DC, KK the Hip-Hop mayor's career transition timing may be very off. Like a lot of us, the 21st century ain't turning out so well for him. Biden has the rep of not even talking to lobbyists and Obama has shown what he thinks of PACs and such by refusing most PAC money as well as Public Financing.

If Abramoff is in prison and his big lobbyist scam was broken down, can you imagine how hard it will be for a black KK? Even Abramoff's good friend and college buddy Ralph Reed, Mr Moral Majority himself had to step back from heading a fundraiser for McCaint.

Besides, in most states, before an ex-con can become a lobbyist, they have to pay back all their restitution. $1 million ain't gonna be easy for KK to come by, mark my words. Not even with a 5-year payment plan.

TruthSeeker: Deal or No Deal! :>) :>) :>)

She's a young woman and her life is messed up, and as you said, he's still with his wife....think anybody'll hire her after her face is splashed all over the tv? Think she won't be more vulnerable to sexual harassment in any job she gets because the raunchy texts were exposed?

Sigh... Didn't she have a friend or relative who could have talked some sense into her?

TruthSeeker: She WAS married! Hubby "got his hat and bounced!!" :>)

Did they really boo McAncient in Philly?


BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

LOL - I live in South Jersey (15 miles from Philly) and I didn't even know he was here. But I did hear on the radio Mayor Nutter say, yea McCain was here, talking about the economy, like he knows anything about it.

Classic! LMAO!

Hi Jay! Another South Jerseyite in da house.

Hhhheeey MsKitty - you wouldn't happen to be a lady of Zeta would you?

Not a Zeta, but I had one as a roommate once.