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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle on Ellen for Season Premiere&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michelle-obama-sarah-palins-kids-absolutely-off-limits&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michelle-obama-s...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle on Ellen for Season Premiere<br /><a href="http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michelle-obama-sarah-palins-kids-absolutely-off-limits" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michelle-obama-s.." rel="nofollow">http://www.usmagazine.com/news/michelle-obama-s..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And white, conservative republicans care about that because.....?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And white, conservative republicans care about that because&#8230;..?</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/thursday-open-thread-8/comment-page-3/#comment-162027</link>
		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am so thankful for Stephanie Miller who has been a faithful surrogate for O when the others haven&#039;t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I still think Wasserman-Schultz is passing and I think her voice is sultry. Note to Debbie: Its called relaxer. Get a jar of mild with a little black girl&#039;s face on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am so thankful for Stephanie Miller who has been a faithful surrogate for O when the others haven&#39;t.</p>
<p>I still think Wasserman-Schultz is passing and I think her voice is sultry. Note to Debbie: Its called relaxer. Get a jar of mild with a little black girl&#39;s face on it.</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val, lease email me a &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val, lease email me a <a href="mailto:cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val, please email me a &lt;a href=&quot;mailto:cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val, please email me a <a href="mailto:cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow">cooca_la_rue@yahoo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: delfinajones</title>
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		<dc:creator>delfinajones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve thought about this all day at work and I am not about to hi-5 children having children --Bristol  and her shotgun wedding is not a badge of pride for Palin. And Palin is putting alot of folks who are not well off in danger- a pregnant teen with no family to back them up can end up on the street as a prostitute or dead. Palin cutting services for poor teens does just that. I&#039;d like to smack her right now &lt;br&gt;with my old slipper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve thought about this all day at work and I am not about to hi-5 children having children &#8211;Bristol  and her shotgun wedding is not a badge of pride for Palin. And Palin is putting alot of folks who are not well off in danger- a pregnant teen with no family to back them up can end up on the street as a prostitute or dead. Palin cutting services for poor teens does just that. I&#39;d like to smack her right now <br />with my old slipper.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:40:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good luck, PJamma. Give it a week or 2 to see if you can gain more objectivity. If you are inclined, pray for wisdom, understanding and discernment. Unfortunately, humans assult each other&#039;s souls. We just do...often out of ignorance or sometimes out of a desire to control or manipulate. I might say something to my kids or one of my students that really hurts their feelings,  or they might say something to me. Coworkers can be rude. Bosses can be ignorant. Let us know how things play out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good luck, PJamma. Give it a week or 2 to see if you can gain more objectivity. If you are inclined, pray for wisdom, understanding and discernment. Unfortunately, humans assult each other&#39;s souls. We just do&#8230;often out of ignorance or sometimes out of a desire to control or manipulate. I might say something to my kids or one of my students that really hurts their feelings,  or they might say something to me. Coworkers can be rude. Bosses can be ignorant. Let us know how things play out.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What job &amp; company is this? Do they have an office in Houston, TX? Let a teacher know!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What job &#038; company is this? Do they have an office in Houston, TX? Let a teacher know!</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>delfinajones:  Co-signing!!   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>delfinajones:  Co-signing!!   :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sepia:   With respect, IF Biden would have reacted negatively today, I can GUARANTEE  you that the program tonight would have been changed to TROT OUT as MANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS as they could find, fly, bus, train, horseback, camel, donkey, moose and/or caribou in to make a statement of SUPPORT for &quot;McAncient&quot;!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WAIT for the FINAL GAVEL!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It GOES DOWN 2night!!!   LITERALLY!!!!    :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sepia:   With respect, IF Biden would have reacted negatively today, I can GUARANTEE  you that the program tonight would have been changed to TROT OUT as MANY COMMUNITY ORGANIZERS as they could find, fly, bus, train, horseback, camel, donkey, moose and/or caribou in to make a statement of SUPPORT for &#8220;McAncient&#8221;!!</p>
<p>WAIT for the FINAL GAVEL!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  </p>
<p>It GOES DOWN 2night!!!   LITERALLY!!!!    :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob M:   AND he was trotted off ta have a visit with some of his &quot;homies&quot; in jail!!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the real:   This is a sad state of affairs!!  That city has suffered!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob M:   AND he was trotted off ta have a visit with some of his &#8220;homies&#8221; in jail!!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>On the real:   This is a sad state of affairs!!  That city has suffered!</p>
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		<title>By: pjamma</title>
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		<dc:creator>pjamma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your response.  I did offer counter arguments and we will see what happens.  The interesting thing is while I was with the company they recruited me from I gained respect and buzz because of what i did while managing one of the largest accounts based in the South.  Also interesting, or disturbing, is during the interview for that promotion in my last job I was asked &quot;how did I think I would be successful considering I was a young black female dealing with old white guys&quot;.  I was able to convince them to give me the opportunity and ended up bringing over $100 million to the company and that shut them up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am so am just so frustrated having to deal with this again.  I am really good.  I&#039;m much better then the next guy (and they are all guys).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I live in Northern California so while I may know better my executive team may not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Val, I like your idea of suing, but it is a heavy decision to evaluate.  I will not be hired again if I sue, that&#039;s the way it works.  Because of the company I work for they will settle but unless I can get an equivalent amount to what i would earn in the next 35 years of working including interest, options, rate increases which take into account logical promotions I don&#039;t think its a good idea.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As far as finding a new job, considering this has been brought up in the only two companies I have worked for I&#039;m not convinced it won&#039;t be different elsewhere.  I&#039;m starting to think (from looking around) that once you get into upper management the rules change.  I now appreciate Michelle Obama even more.  I use to think her job was no big deal, she was good and she deserved it.  But now I&#039;m learning It&#039;s really not that easy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wish me luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your response.  I did offer counter arguments and we will see what happens.  The interesting thing is while I was with the company they recruited me from I gained respect and buzz because of what i did while managing one of the largest accounts based in the South.  Also interesting, or disturbing, is during the interview for that promotion in my last job I was asked &#8220;how did I think I would be successful considering I was a young black female dealing with old white guys&#8221;.  I was able to convince them to give me the opportunity and ended up bringing over $100 million to the company and that shut them up.</p>
<p>I am so am just so frustrated having to deal with this again.  I am really good.  I&#39;m much better then the next guy (and they are all guys).</p>
<p>I live in Northern California so while I may know better my executive team may not.</p>
<p>Val, I like your idea of suing, but it is a heavy decision to evaluate.  I will not be hired again if I sue, that&#39;s the way it works.  Because of the company I work for they will settle but unless I can get an equivalent amount to what i would earn in the next 35 years of working including interest, options, rate increases which take into account logical promotions I don&#39;t think its a good idea.  </p>
<p>As far as finding a new job, considering this has been brought up in the only two companies I have worked for I&#39;m not convinced it won&#39;t be different elsewhere.  I&#39;m starting to think (from looking around) that once you get into upper management the rules change.  I now appreciate Michelle Obama even more.  I use to think her job was no big deal, she was good and she deserved it.  But now I&#39;m learning It&#39;s really not that easy.</p>
<p>Wish me luck.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:50:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>val:   Good visual!!  SAD but true!!   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>val:   Good visual!!  SAD but true!!   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelani:  Co-signing.   I didn&#039;t even contact his site to give him any advice.   :&gt;)     :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)   &quot;That&#039;s above my pay grade!&quot;     :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some tv commentator said that they had anticipated that the Gov. would implode, BUT that was not the case!    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IMHO  -  That WAS the case!!  We didn&#039;t like sarcasm, anger, evil, vicious, vitriol, etc. in billary.   ANNNNDDD we DON&#039;T like it in the GOV.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you saw what happened to billary AND bull!!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;)     :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelani:  Co-signing.   I didn&#39;t even contact his site to give him any advice.   :&gt;)     :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)   &#8220;That&#39;s above my pay grade!&#8221;     :&gt;)     :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
<p>Some tv commentator said that they had anticipated that the Gov. would implode, BUT that was not the case!    </p>
<p>IMHO  &#8211;  That WAS the case!!  We didn&#39;t like sarcasm, anger, evil, vicious, vitriol, etc. in billary.   ANNNNDDD we DON&#39;T like it in the GOV.</p>
<p>But you saw what happened to billary AND bull!!!  :&gt;)    :&gt;)     :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey pjamma - have you thought about working for another company?  There are NO limitations at the job where I am and they completely support work/life balance. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are pro - minorities, they invest in their employees and the community, we have groups for black professionals, hispanics, gay and lesbians, everything.  They include mentoring programs and you can add to your current skillset as much as you want.  There are challenging positions, client facing positions, some of our Partners work remotely (from home) some have limited travel, and some work in the offices.  I have worked from home for over 8 years and got promoted at least 6 times, receive substantial bonuses at times twice a year and there is always opportunities to get some additional incentives depending on your role.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not sure what your career path is or if you are remotely interested in seeing what is out there but.  let me know the best way to connect with you to give you some information. Good luck to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey pjamma &#8211; have you thought about working for another company?  There are NO limitations at the job where I am and they completely support work/life balance. </p>
<p>They are pro &#8211; minorities, they invest in their employees and the community, we have groups for black professionals, hispanics, gay and lesbians, everything.  They include mentoring programs and you can add to your current skillset as much as you want.  There are challenging positions, client facing positions, some of our Partners work remotely (from home) some have limited travel, and some work in the offices.  I have worked from home for over 8 years and got promoted at least 6 times, receive substantial bonuses at times twice a year and there is always opportunities to get some additional incentives depending on your role.</p>
<p>Not sure what your career path is or if you are remotely interested in seeing what is out there but.  let me know the best way to connect with you to give you some information. Good luck to you.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noelani:  Co-signing on Schultz&#039;s VOICE!!   yuk!!!!    :&gt;)    :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noelani:  Co-signing on Schultz&#39;s VOICE!!   yuk!!!!    :&gt;)    :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Document the discussion, get some confirmation on it, then report them and file a suit.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Take the money and start your own business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Document the discussion, get some confirmation on it, then report them and file a suit.</p>
<p>Take the money and start your own business.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am also shocked that they told you. It&#039;s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Please document the incident and your feelings about it for posterity. Continue to document everything that is relevant to your job performance, as well as those assignments that you might feel you are qualified for but don&#039;t get.  I also encourage you to record conversations about your job performance. I know it seems cloak and dagger, but if you think they aren&#039;t recording stuff, you&#039;re wrong. There were some people (Black) here who worked for an oil company and won a class action discrimination law suit because one of them had the presence of mind to record conversations. If you never end up using it, you&#039;ll just throw it away.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I also think you need to let some time pass so you can get over the initial shock of this incident. When you have a little more distance, you will be better able to assess if you have a future at this company or not, and if you are ok with having a future or not.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From what you wrote, I can tell you don&#039;t live in the south. There are a lot of stereo types about the south that simply aren&#039;t true. Blacks and whites have a weird but familiar relationship in the south. White poeple in the south are very use to seeing and being around Black people. The south also produces the lions share of Black politicians in the country, and it is way more integrated than many northern areas. I think Chicago is the most segregated city in the country. I&#039;m saying all this to say that their argument is unsubstantialed. Maybe this is a test to see how much you want this promotion. Are you going to going to take no for an answer and fold or are you going to let them know that you believe you are the right person for the job and when can you get started? You can tell them that you forgive them for grossly underestimating your ability, intellect and excellence and inspite of it, you&#039;re willing to accept the position, perhaps on a trial basis.  Let us know when you&#039;ve changed their minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am also shocked that they told you. It&#39;s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Please document the incident and your feelings about it for posterity. Continue to document everything that is relevant to your job performance, as well as those assignments that you might feel you are qualified for but don&#39;t get.  I also encourage you to record conversations about your job performance. I know it seems cloak and dagger, but if you think they aren&#39;t recording stuff, you&#39;re wrong. There were some people (Black) here who worked for an oil company and won a class action discrimination law suit because one of them had the presence of mind to record conversations. If you never end up using it, you&#39;ll just throw it away.</p>
<p>I also think you need to let some time pass so you can get over the initial shock of this incident. When you have a little more distance, you will be better able to assess if you have a future at this company or not, and if you are ok with having a future or not.</p>
<p>From what you wrote, I can tell you don&#39;t live in the south. There are a lot of stereo types about the south that simply aren&#39;t true. Blacks and whites have a weird but familiar relationship in the south. White poeple in the south are very use to seeing and being around Black people. The south also produces the lions share of Black politicians in the country, and it is way more integrated than many northern areas. I think Chicago is the most segregated city in the country. I&#39;m saying all this to say that their argument is unsubstantialed. Maybe this is a test to see how much you want this promotion. Are you going to going to take no for an answer and fold or are you going to let them know that you believe you are the right person for the job and when can you get started? You can tell them that you forgive them for grossly underestimating your ability, intellect and excellence and inspite of it, you&#39;re willing to accept the position, perhaps on a trial basis.  Let us know when you&#39;ve changed their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Val</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/thursday-open-thread-8/comment-page-3/#comment-162017</link>
		<dc:creator>Val</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well there were people of different ethnic backgrounds there.  Few but they were there.  That doesn&#039;t bother me.  Most minorities tend to support the Democratic party.  What does bother me is the VILE stuff that came out of the mouths of those people.  It was like time shifted for a moment and Jim Crow was in the audience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well there were people of different ethnic backgrounds there.  Few but they were there.  That doesn&#39;t bother me.  Most minorities tend to support the Democratic party.  What does bother me is the VILE stuff that came out of the mouths of those people.  It was like time shifted for a moment and Jim Crow was in the audience.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/thursday-open-thread-8/comment-page-3/#comment-162016</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jack is funny</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jack is funny</p>
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