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	<title>Comments on: The shit ain&#8217;t subtle, and you ain&#8217;t slick, John McCain</title>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/the-shit-aint-subtle-and-you-aint-slick-john-mccain/comment-page-2/#comment-162232</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not feeling the Gematria angle.  If there is a connection, it&#039;s probably less mystical than that.  All I know, Is what I see and what my gut tells me.   Right now, it&#039;s saying &quot;cheesecake&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not feeling the Gematria angle.  If there is a connection, it&#39;s probably less mystical than that.  All I know, Is what I see and what my gut tells me.   Right now, it&#39;s saying &#8220;cheesecake&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not feeling the Gematria angle.  If there is a connection, it&#039;s probably less mystical than that.  All I know, Is what I see and what my gut tells me.   Right now, it&#039;s saying &quot;cheesecake&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m not feeling the Gematria angle.  If there is a connection, it&#39;s probably less mystical than that.  All I know, Is what I see and what my gut tells me.   Right now, it&#39;s saying &#8220;cheesecake&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhondacoca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhondacoca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No O&#039;Reilly is the equivalent of David Duke!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Can they leave those me alone. O&#039;Reilly is trying to scare the American public out of desperation. This topic is old. Brining it back up is so obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No O&#39;Reilly is the equivalent of David Duke!</p>
<p>Can they leave those me alone. O&#39;Reilly is trying to scare the American public out of desperation. This topic is old. Brining it back up is so obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 12:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You tell me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I haven&#039;t a clue, but it seems to bring it all together - royalty, pedigree, entitlement, Nixon, Bush, Rothschild, 666 - doesn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You tell me.</p>
<p>I haven&#39;t a clue, but it seems to bring it all together &#8211; royalty, pedigree, entitlement, Nixon, Bush, Rothschild, 666 &#8211; doesn&#39;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 06:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy shit!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Is this credible???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy shit!</p>
<p>Is this credible???</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see, this is why I love JJP readers. They find stuff that makes you step back and think hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see, this is why I love JJP readers. They find stuff that makes you step back and think hard.</p>
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		<title>By: dcgatn</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcgatn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ll answer your question when you answer mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#39;ll answer your question when you answer mine.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 02:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clinton&#039;s Family Tree&lt;br&gt;by William F. Dankenbring&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In a recent issue of &quot;Prophecy in the News&quot; magazine, author J. R.  Church informs us of a most striking genealogy. He writes:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    In an Associated Press article published in The Daily Oklahoman, October 28, 1996, Harold Brooks-Baker, director of Burke&#039;s Peerage, a London-based publishing house that traces the lineage of royal and noble families, said that Bill Clinton and Bob Dole have more in&lt;br&gt;    common than wanting to be president. They are distant cousins! However, Clinton has bluer blood, giving him an election edge.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe, but took his stepfather&#039;s name as a teenager. Clinton&#039;s ancestry can be traced&lt;br&gt;    back, on his mother&#039;s side, to King Henry III who ruled England from 1227 to 1272. He is descended from King Robert I of France.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    Furthermore, he is related to every Scottish monarch to the current British royal family. Clinton&#039;s royal roots include several medieval&lt;br&gt;    monarchs and Simon de Montfort, a statesman and soldier under King Henry III. Through de Montfort, Clinton is related to every ancient aristocratic family in Britain today.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;J. R. Church continues the incredible story:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    Over the past six years, efforts to uncover Clinton&#039;s personal history have been nigh unto impossible to confirm. The President had&lt;br&gt;    all records of his family history, school records, medical history, etc. sealed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    In 1992, we called Burke&#039;s Peerage and asked if they had done any research into Clinton&#039;s lineage. We were told that they had not done&lt;br&gt;    a genealogical search on his ancestry. It seemed strange to us at the time that they denied knowing anything about Clinton. Shortly&lt;br&gt;    afterward, we came across an AP story that linked Clinton to a Gypsy king--citing Burke&#039;s Peerage as a source. We again called Burke&#039;s&lt;br&gt;    Peerage and repeated our request. Again, they told us that no work had been done. That&#039;s when we read the article to the person on the&lt;br&gt;    phone, naming Harold Brooks-Baker as a source. She then admitted that they had done some work on the genealogy. She said that we should talk with Harold Brooks-Baker, himself. She requested that we fax a letter and request a reply.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    We did as she asked. Two days later, having received no reply, we called again. This time, we were able to get Mr. Harold Brooks-Baker on the phone. He asked why we wanted the information, and said he would have to clear our request with Washington. He said, &#039;It&#039;s a very touchy subject.&#039; He talked like there might be something to hide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Indeed! What might that closely-guarded secret be? J. R. Church continues his riveting story:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    Bill Clinton&#039;s family goes back to William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, making him related to Gerald Ford and Jimmy&lt;br&gt;    Carter. His kinship to Ford makes him &#039;near kin&#039; to Richard Nixon and George Bush. Small world, isn&#039;t it?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#039;Royal Boy Chosen&#039;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    There is no official documentation for what I am about to relate. I talked with a man in the summer of 1996 who claimed to be a&lt;br&gt;    descendant of the Rothschild banking family. He informed me that Bill Clinton used to attend their family functions as a boy.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    This man grew up in the same town with Clinton. They attended the same schools. He would see Bill at family get-togethers wearing a&lt;br&gt;    Jewish skullcap. According to him, Bill Clinton is a descendant of the Rothschild family.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    He said the rabbis would kiss his hand and refer to him as the Segulah Yeled Eklatosh--the &#039;royal-boy-chosen.&#039; He said that&lt;br&gt;    according to private family records, the original Meyer Amschel (Bauer) Rothschild (pictured, right) claimed to have had a heavenly visitor in 1773,&lt;br&gt;    who informed him that Jesus was not the Messiah. He told Meyer Amschel that the family from which he descended would produce the&lt;br&gt;    Messiah in the last half of the twentieth century.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    A few weeks later I read in &#039;The Jewish Festivals&#039; by Hayyim Schauss (published in 1938) that the Roman Emperor Nero had faked his death, escaped and married a Jewish woman. The famous thirteenth century&lt;br&gt;    Rabbi Meir (also spelled Meyer) of Rothenberg, Germany, claimed direct descent from Nero. I called my Rothschild family friend and&lt;br&gt;    asked it there was a family connection. Two days later he called me back, and said &#039;Yes! The Rothschilds are descended from Nero!&#039;...&quot;&lt;br&gt;    (&quot;Roots of the Presidents,&quot; by J. R. Church, Prophecy in the News, July 1998, pages 18-19).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[This article goes on to describe Nero&#039;s character and ends by saying Nero&#039;s Aramaic name (Nron Ksr) equals 666. They also show&lt;br&gt;William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton as both adding up to 666 but the numbers are off as published.] &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.realnews247.com/clinton%2527s_family_tree.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.realnews247.com/clinton%27s_family_t...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;::&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wasn&#039;t even looking for this. I&#039;m sure it&#039;s full of shit, but there&#039;s something so metaphysically accurate about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clinton&#39;s Family Tree<br />by William F. Dankenbring</p>
<p>In a recent issue of &#8220;Prophecy in the News&#8221; magazine, author J. R.  Church informs us of a most striking genealogy. He writes:</p>
<p>    In an Associated Press article published in The Daily Oklahoman, October 28, 1996, Harold Brooks-Baker, director of Burke&#39;s Peerage, a London-based publishing house that traces the lineage of royal and noble families, said that Bill Clinton and Bob Dole have more in<br />    common than wanting to be president. They are distant cousins! However, Clinton has bluer blood, giving him an election edge.</p>
<p>    Bill Clinton was born William Jefferson Blythe, but took his stepfather&#39;s name as a teenager. Clinton&#39;s ancestry can be traced<br />    back, on his mother&#39;s side, to King Henry III who ruled England from 1227 to 1272. He is descended from King Robert I of France.</p>
<p>    Furthermore, he is related to every Scottish monarch to the current British royal family. Clinton&#39;s royal roots include several medieval<br />    monarchs and Simon de Montfort, a statesman and soldier under King Henry III. Through de Montfort, Clinton is related to every ancient aristocratic family in Britain today.</p>
<p>J. R. Church continues the incredible story:</p>
<p>    Over the past six years, efforts to uncover Clinton&#39;s personal history have been nigh unto impossible to confirm. The President had<br />    all records of his family history, school records, medical history, etc. sealed.</p>
<p>    In 1992, we called Burke&#39;s Peerage and asked if they had done any research into Clinton&#39;s lineage. We were told that they had not done<br />    a genealogical search on his ancestry. It seemed strange to us at the time that they denied knowing anything about Clinton. Shortly<br />    afterward, we came across an AP story that linked Clinton to a Gypsy king&#8211;citing Burke&#39;s Peerage as a source. We again called Burke&#39;s<br />    Peerage and repeated our request. Again, they told us that no work had been done. That&#39;s when we read the article to the person on the<br />    phone, naming Harold Brooks-Baker as a source. She then admitted that they had done some work on the genealogy. She said that we should talk with Harold Brooks-Baker, himself. She requested that we fax a letter and request a reply.</p>
<p>    We did as she asked. Two days later, having received no reply, we called again. This time, we were able to get Mr. Harold Brooks-Baker on the phone. He asked why we wanted the information, and said he would have to clear our request with Washington. He said, &#39;It&#39;s a very touchy subject.&#39; He talked like there might be something to hide.</p>
<p>Indeed! What might that closely-guarded secret be? J. R. Church continues his riveting story:</p>
<p>    Bill Clinton&#39;s family goes back to William Henry Harrison and Benjamin Harrison, making him related to Gerald Ford and Jimmy<br />    Carter. His kinship to Ford makes him &#39;near kin&#39; to Richard Nixon and George Bush. Small world, isn&#39;t it?</p>
<p>&#39;Royal Boy Chosen&#39;</p>
<p>    There is no official documentation for what I am about to relate. I talked with a man in the summer of 1996 who claimed to be a<br />    descendant of the Rothschild banking family. He informed me that Bill Clinton used to attend their family functions as a boy.</p>
<p>    This man grew up in the same town with Clinton. They attended the same schools. He would see Bill at family get-togethers wearing a<br />    Jewish skullcap. According to him, Bill Clinton is a descendant of the Rothschild family.</p>
<p>    He said the rabbis would kiss his hand and refer to him as the Segulah Yeled Eklatosh&#8211;the &#39;royal-boy-chosen.&#39; He said that<br />    according to private family records, the original Meyer Amschel (Bauer) Rothschild (pictured, right) claimed to have had a heavenly visitor in 1773,<br />    who informed him that Jesus was not the Messiah. He told Meyer Amschel that the family from which he descended would produce the<br />    Messiah in the last half of the twentieth century.</p>
<p>    A few weeks later I read in &#39;The Jewish Festivals&#39; by Hayyim Schauss (published in 1938) that the Roman Emperor Nero had faked his death, escaped and married a Jewish woman. The famous thirteenth century<br />    Rabbi Meir (also spelled Meyer) of Rothenberg, Germany, claimed direct descent from Nero. I called my Rothschild family friend and<br />    asked it there was a family connection. Two days later he called me back, and said &#39;Yes! The Rothschilds are descended from Nero!&#39;&#8230;&#8221;<br />    (&#8221;Roots of the Presidents,&#8221; by J. R. Church, Prophecy in the News, July 1998, pages 18-19).</p>
<p>[This article goes on to describe Nero&#39;s character and ends by saying Nero&#39;s Aramaic name (Nron Ksr) equals 666. They also show<br />William Jefferson Clinton and Hillary Rodham Clinton as both adding up to 666 but the numbers are off as published.] </p>
<p><a href="http://www.realnews247.com/clinton%2527s_family_tree.htm"></a><a href="http://www.realnews247.com/clinton%27s_family_t.." rel="nofollow">http://www.realnews247.com/clinton%27s_family_t..</a>.</p>
<p>::</p>
<p>I wasn&#39;t even looking for this. I&#39;m sure it&#39;s full of shit, but there&#39;s something so metaphysically accurate about it.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
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		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, either they will get called out, or someone dropped a dime on someone and someone&#039;s on their way to the Big House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, either they will get called out, or someone dropped a dime on someone and someone&#39;s on their way to the Big House.</p>
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		<title>By: Maurice Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maurice Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a political strategy strategy from McCain?  Does he really believe that Barack Obama and the American public is stupid and cannot see through this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1) Keeping his Vice-President nominee from the media?&lt;br&gt;2) Negotiating a special deal for the vice-President debates?&lt;br&gt;3) Now suspending his campaign?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;WTF?  Hope he suspends his campain until Nov.4th!  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;President Obama&lt;br&gt;Vice-President Biden&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Get used to it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a political strategy strategy from McCain?  Does he really believe that Barack Obama and the American public is stupid and cannot see through this?</p>
<p>1) Keeping his Vice-President nominee from the media?<br />2) Negotiating a special deal for the vice-President debates?<br />3) Now suspending his campaign?</p>
<p>WTF?  Hope he suspends his campain until Nov.4th!  </p>
<p>President Obama<br />Vice-President Biden</p>
<p>Get used to it!</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He&#039;s not going to pull them at all.  The TV stations won&#039;t get paid anymore and then they&#039;ll cease to play them.  I wonder what Tucker Bounds gots to say about that?</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What happens when McCain gets laughed at nationwide for not showing up to the debate.  How will you feel then?</description>
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		<title>By: dcgatn</title>
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		<dc:creator>dcgatn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what happens when obama votes for the bailout? how will you all feel then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what happens when obama votes for the bailout? how will you all feel then?</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can&#039;t pull ads within 24 hours.</description>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack needs to continue to attack McCain on his record, his lies, and his lobbyists.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;He must not let up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let McCain do what he does. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We the people can see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack needs to continue to attack McCain on his record, his lies, and his lobbyists.</p>
<p>He must not let up.</p>
<p>Let McCain do what he does. </p>
<p>We the people can see.</p>
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		<title>By: hustleandfloe</title>
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		<dc:creator>hustleandfloe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the games is gangsta.  i hope o&#039;s people are fighting back on the ground in michigan.  any word?  any word how folks outside can help during this &quot;break from the campaign?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the games is gangsta.  i hope o&#39;s people are fighting back on the ground in michigan.  any word?  any word how folks outside can help during this &#8220;break from the campaign?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to kick it around with you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to kick it around with you too.</p>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
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		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When was this &quot;suspension&quot; supposed to start?  Because I&#039;m still seeing McCain ads left and right.  Somebody needs to tell McCain &quot;Bitch, this ain&#039;t the primaries!&quot;  He&#039;s acting like he&#039;s Huckabee or Clinton &quot;I&#039;m going to suspend my campaign.&quot;  Suspend = OVAH.  FINISHED.  DONE.  Is McCain telling the American public he&#039;s finished?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When was this &#8220;suspension&#8221; supposed to start?  Because I&#39;m still seeing McCain ads left and right.  Somebody needs to tell McCain &#8220;Bitch, this ain&#39;t the primaries!&#8221;  He&#39;s acting like he&#39;s Huckabee or Clinton &#8220;I&#39;m going to suspend my campaign.&#8221;  Suspend = OVAH.  FINISHED.  DONE.  Is McCain telling the American public he&#39;s finished?</p>
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		<title>By: Anderkoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anderkoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno, I think I agree that if McCain goes silent, Obama switches to positive message ads. This would give him a chance to set the agenda and the message and put McCain on defense. Running contrast ads is a defensive strategy and dilutes the message, because you waste half the time on your opponent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would love to see the first 30 seconds of this speech as an ad:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWPYRxb26Q&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWPYRxb26Q&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&quot;You are stewards not only of your companies but of workers and communities all across the country who have put their trust in you. With the enormous rewards you&#039;ve reaped, come certain responsibilities, and we expect and demand that you live up to those responsibilities.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(See Luke 12:48)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I love about this is the muscular moralism. He shows the same kind of backbone that people like about Bush -- &quot;Don&#039;t make that mistake&quot; -- but he follows it up with a call to a better world, not a threat of force.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(Thanks Baratunde for the pointer)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno, I think I agree that if McCain goes silent, Obama switches to positive message ads. This would give him a chance to set the agenda and the message and put McCain on defense. Running contrast ads is a defensive strategy and dilutes the message, because you waste half the time on your opponent.</p>
<p>I would love to see the first 30 seconds of this speech as an ad:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWPYRxb26Q">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sWPYRxb26Q</a></p>
<p>&#8220;You are stewards not only of your companies but of workers and communities all across the country who have put their trust in you. With the enormous rewards you&#39;ve reaped, come certain responsibilities, and we expect and demand that you live up to those responsibilities.&#8221;</p>
<p>(See Luke 12:48)</p>
<p>What I love about this is the muscular moralism. He shows the same kind of backbone that people like about Bush &#8212; &#8220;Don&#39;t make that mistake&#8221; &#8212; but he follows it up with a call to a better world, not a threat of force.</p>
<p>(Thanks Baratunde for the pointer)</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From TPM:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Obama Avoids Getting A GOP Bitch-Slapping&lt;br&gt;By Greg Sargent - September 24, 2008, 5:52PM&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Readers familiar with Josh&#039;s Republican Bitch-Slap Theory of electoral politics will recognize that Obama has thus far handled McCain&#039;s call for a suspension of the debate in precisely the right way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain&#039;s real goal here was to be seen as the one setting the agenda and driving the action. His goal was to be seen ordering Obama to jump and getting him to, well, jump.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama didn&#039;t jump.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Had Obama agreed to a suspension of the debate, McCain would have achieved precisely what he wanted. He&#039;d be perceived as the one who&#039;d forced a suspension of campaign activity and brought everyone together in a show of temporary unity in response to the crisis. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Plus, by agreeing to the suspension, Obama would have legitimized a stunt so transparent that it&#039;s astonishing that McCain was able to deliver his statement on TV without dissolving into hysterical laughter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Obama didn&#039;t jump. And no jump=no bitch slap.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Late Update: A number of you rightly point out that part of what&#039;s key here is that Obama did some slapping of his own, by pointing out that we can do two things at once here.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also: To be clear, I&#039;m not arguing that McCain won&#039;t be able to somehow use Obama&#039;s refusal to suspend the debate in future attacks and ads or whatever. Of course he will. My point was that agreeing to McCain&#039;s bogus suspension call would have been the worst possible move.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From TPM:</p>
<p><i>Obama Avoids Getting A GOP Bitch-Slapping<br />By Greg Sargent &#8211; September 24, 2008, 5:52PM</p>
<p>Readers familiar with Josh&#39;s Republican Bitch-Slap Theory of electoral politics will recognize that Obama has thus far handled McCain&#39;s call for a suspension of the debate in precisely the right way.</p>
<p>McCain&#39;s real goal here was to be seen as the one setting the agenda and driving the action. His goal was to be seen ordering Obama to jump and getting him to, well, jump.</p>
<p>Obama didn&#39;t jump.</p>
<p>Had Obama agreed to a suspension of the debate, McCain would have achieved precisely what he wanted. He&#39;d be perceived as the one who&#39;d forced a suspension of campaign activity and brought everyone together in a show of temporary unity in response to the crisis. </p>
<p>Plus, by agreeing to the suspension, Obama would have legitimized a stunt so transparent that it&#39;s astonishing that McCain was able to deliver his statement on TV without dissolving into hysterical laughter.</p>
<p>But Obama didn&#39;t jump. And no jump=no bitch slap.</p>
<p>Late Update: A number of you rightly point out that part of what&#39;s key here is that Obama did some slapping of his own, by pointing out that we can do two things at once here.</p>
<p>Also: To be clear, I&#39;m not arguing that McCain won&#39;t be able to somehow use Obama&#39;s refusal to suspend the debate in future attacks and ads or whatever. Of course he will. My point was that agreeing to McCain&#39;s bogus suspension call would have been the worst possible move.</p>
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