James.Dobson.In.A.Dress Open Thread

1 Sep 2008 Author: rikyrah

As promised.

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Tags: 2008 Presidential Race, Sarah Palin

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TruthSeeker
I suppose you could argue that “accepting her fate” is a form of courage. But, it would be nice if she could truly choose. Maybe deep inside, she is terrified. Maybe she knows in her heart this is the wrong outcome for her.
Republicans are asking for privacy. They say this is a family affair. Yet, they seek to impose their will on all families with anti-abortion legislation. There must be no “privacy” for other women.
They are hypocrites!
GreenLadyHere
nancelyn: Noting that you just arrived here.
This comes under the heading of DOUBLE (IL)LOGIC!! [similar, and with all due respect to our newest thread :>)]:
“The FACT that Trig has Down's Syndrome is nothing more than that, a FACT.”
O.K. A FACT!!
“Barack Obama is black, is he using his race for political advantage?”
Several things:
1. Black should be capitalized!! That's A FACT!!!
2. Barack Obama is Black. That's a FACT!! Period!!! [NOT comma!!]
It it NOT LOGICAL to move beyond “Barack Obama is black” IF you're going to put a PERIOD at the end of your “Down's Syndrome” fact.
In fact it's a non-parallelism and a non-sequitur and, therefore,
ILLOGICAL!!! But, enjoy your visit!! And y'all come back now!!
JJai
We don't know her true desires. I am sure she is terrified. Lots of expectant mothers are; expecially first time mothers. I can agree that being forced in any direction is unaceptable.
I will say that that even though I am am not pro abortion; I am pro choice. I disagree with any agenda that seeks to legislate morality.
Miranda
Not only domestic issues involving sexual behavior, but what about Palin's stance on supporting initiatives to combat AIDs in Africa?? What about her stance on making contraceptives available to our men and women serving on military bases abroad? Ooops….I forgot she probably doesn't have ANY stance just yet…but I am very curious to find out what her position is.
Miranda
Its about the mother's choice, and only her choice. Sort of like you having the choice to come a running to defend the honor of Miss Sarah and young Miss Bristol, but was nowhere to be found when Michelle Obama was being demonized and bashed.
nickwah22
emm.. good question..!!! where were you though??
nickwah22
LMAO! Boy is it heated today.
But just like these conservatives are crossing over today I had to go read some of their comments to see where they are coming from. I just want to know what her stances are! How long do we have to wait to get some damn answers!!
ljf
Monica, why are your still supporting Hillary Clinton? What office is she running for? Last time I checked she is still the senator of my state –New York. She has not announced that she is running for to any us New Yorkers.
In the primary I voted for Kucinich. He did not win. Guess what? I don't support him anymore because he is no longer running for President. I SUPPORTED Kucinich, but I no longer SUPPORT him.
But if you still support Hillary Clinton than why don't you become an OBAMA SUPPORTER and identify yourself as such, she does
rikyrah
From DailyKos:
Sarah Palin Isn't Ready To Be Commander In Chief.
- She has been Governor for 18 months of a state that ranks 47th in population. Only North Dakota, Vermont, and Wyoming have fewer people to govern than Alaska.
- Prior to that, she was Mayor of Wasilla, Alaka for 6 years and sat on Wasilla's City Council for 4 years. Wasilla's 2005 population estimate is 8,471.
- Sarah Palin has no foreign policy experience. Physical proximity of Alaska to Russia doesn't count.
Sarah Palin is woefully out of the mainstream in her views.
- She opposes abortion, even in cases of rape and incest. Only 18% of Americans agree with her that it should be illegal in all cases (source).
- She opposes sex education in schools and is firmly behind abstinence-only programs (source). 69% of Americans think sex education in schools is very important, and 21% think its somewhat important (source – PDF, p. 6).
- She supports the idea of “school choice”, or vouchers (source). 70% of Americans do NOT support vouchers when it means public school funding would be cut (source).
- She supports teaching creationism in science classes (source).
- She is skeptical of global warming and doesn't believe climate change is man-made (source). 85% of Americans believe the planet is warming and a full 70% believe that it is attributable to either BOTH nature and man (49%) or solely to humans (21%) (source).
Palin is hardly free of old-Washington influence and tactics.
- She was FOR the Bridge to Nowhere, before she was against it (source).
- She openly praises Hillary Clinton, but thinks Clinton is a “whiner” (source).
- She is under investigation for ethics abuses in the firing of Alaska's Public Safety Director (source – worth noting also that CNN just reported Palin has retained a lawyer on the same issue).
- She was director of Senator Ted Stevens' PAC (source). It's worth noting here also that Stevens himself is under indictment for 7 felonious counts.
parker404
Governor Grandma's parenting skills have rightfully been called into question (i.e., boarding a 12 hour flight after her water broke), and there are still so many facts that are not sitting right with me:
What kind of mother asks her pregnant daughter (of any age) to stand on a stage behind her for 30+ minutes holding a baby? Why not get poor Bristol a chair? Was painting a false portrait of the perfect, conservative family so important that no one, not mama or daddy, thought to speak up for their DAUGHTER and make sure she was comfortable? Why not put little Trig in a freaking stroller, or let his own Daddy hold him?
This stuff is just not adding up. Is it more likely that:
a. A 5 month pregnant girl was asked to hold her baby brother while standing on stage for nearly an hour;
b. A 2-3 month pregnant girl was asked to use her infant son as a prop to hide her baby #2 containing belly; or,
c. A new mom was asked to pass off her son as her brother in order to spare her ambitious mom embarrassmentt?
Whichever is the case, the Palins really don't seem to do things the way the rest of us do.
JJai
ABC News has confirmed Palin's inclusion in the Alaska Independence Party. Now, this is something that the right could get upset about and it completely juxtaposes McCain's Country First agenda. This organization's slogan is “Alaska Fir, Alaska Always.”
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09…
delfinajones
Reviewing her talking points from the RNC?
Miranda
From Bill O'Reilly's Pinhead and Patriots on Dec 20, 2007
On the pinhead front, 16-year-old Jamie Lynn Spears is pregnant. The sister of Britney says she is shocked. I bet.
Now most teens are pinheads in some ways. But here the blame falls primarily on the parents of the girl, who obviously have little control over her or even over Britney Spears. Look at the way she behaves.
Hmmmm……do you think he still feels this way?
parker404
What's worse – living out of the country as a young child and attending public school with Muslims, or belonging to an organization as an adult that Advocates. For. The. Overthrow. of. the. United States. Government.
nickwah22
NO, he doesn't. I was just watching Fox News and apparently this should be private.
marvy
“Get over yourselves.” Gee, what an intelligent response. I am not one who seeks to impose my personal beliefs on others, so I am far from intolerant. McCapin, Palin and the Republicans kept harping about her son's condition as though it gave her some moral authority, and that is also a fact. Your comparison to Obama's color is irrelevant and incorrect. He never campaigned on his color.
JJai
God and Country are first to the RNC base. So, the idea that he is muslim is just as bad. Honestly, and with these conservatives then you would have to go back to Rev. Wright.
Perhaps, those things together would squell voter turnout if this story of her inclusion in AIP gets legs.
Anon
You are right, the rate of Black teenage pregnancies have decreased. However, Black girls represent 30% of all teenage pregancies of all races, which is disproportionate to when compared to the total population of African Americans – say 12-13%. This is 2006 data, so things may have changed over the last 18 months, but not that much.
http://www.gerardbutler-afterdark.com Noelani
I'm sorry but … are you crazy?
I can't believe you just responded to me, making a comparison between the Spears to the scenario I presented.
I could cut that idiotic stance down in a heartbeat, but why bother … it's too ignorant to expend the energy to do so.
FYI, I did not know the Spears political affiliation, but I do recall that “virgin pledge”
Oh the hypocrisy. You can't make this shit up *laughs and shakes head* … really you can't.
evita
Oh please stop acting like this thing she has “courage” for is something she had no control over. The worst part of ALL of this is making 17 year olds get married. CRAZY. That is WAY to young to be married. This is no way to compound the issue but its not my family… so I'll back off of that.
My issue is her POLITICAL STANCE on sex education and abortion. For me, it is always about having a choice. I wonder how much choice this kid is having… And don't you think its kind of hypocritical to have a moral stance on privacy when people were poking around Obama in HIS CHURCH. It wasn't us here at JJP. How about when they nose around in a the best wishes book at the Jewish Memorial in Israel? It wasn't us here at JJP.
The nation is doing this, not us.
http://noelanimahana.wordpress.com Noelani
correcting my post, I misread your message.
evita
Oh please stop acting like this thing she has “courage” for is something she had no control over. The worst part of ALL of this is making 17 year olds get married. CRAZY. That is WAY to young to be married. This is no way to compound the issue but its not my family… so I'll back off of that.
My issue is her POLITICAL STANCE on sex education and abortion. For me, it is always about having a choice. I wonder how much choice this kid is having… And don't you think its kind of hypocritical to have a moral stance on privacy when people were poking around Obama in HIS CHURCH. It wasn't us here at JJP. How about when they nose around in a the best wishes book at the Jewish Memorial in Israel? It wasn't us here at JJP.
The nation is doing this, not us.
http://getbad.net/blog Noelani
correcting my post, I misread your message.
http://blog.evavegadiversity.com/ evita
Oh please stop acting like this thing she has “courage” for is something she had no control over. The worst part of ALL of this is making 17 year olds get married. CRAZY. That is WAY to young to be married. This is no way to compound the issue but its not my family… so I'll back off of that.
My issue is her POLITICAL STANCE on sex education and abortion. For me, it is always about having a choice. I wonder how much choice this kid is having… And don't you think its kind of hypocritical to have a moral stance on privacy when people were poking around Obama in HIS CHURCH. It wasn't us here at JJP. How about when they nose around in a the best wishes book at the Jewish Memorial in Israel? It wasn't us here at JJP.
The nation is doing this, not us.
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