Excellent thread, I saw this really intriguing thread today and I wanted to link to it. Thanks again for taking the time to post….

Excellent thread, I saw this really intriguing thread today and I wanted to link to it. Thanks again for taking the time to post….

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I am probably more vocal about BLT than most white Americans; however, I suspect that their silence will show up in November as votes against Obama.

A ‘form’ of BLT may have been started by the NCNC in 1996, but it was not the doctrine of hatred that James Cone started with his Black Theology and Black Power (1969), and his A Black Theology of Liberation (1970). James Cone’s works were also heavily influenced by Islamism and Marxism…as he has stated.

The NT offers very little of Jesus’ own words, and offers a lot of words from the Roman citizen Paul, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Even the four Gospels have difficulty agreeing on what Jesus said, and/or even what actually happened, e.g. the sign on the cross, the crucifixion, and the resurrection. The few actual recorded words of Jesus are misunderstood to this day. Today’s NT is actually what the Roman Emperor Constantine I authorized, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Thomas Paine’s The Age Of Reason – Part I does a much better job at explaining the NT’s many discrepancies that I can.

Take a look at Dr. Cleophus James Larue, Professor of Preaching at Princeton Theological Seminary: “[the book] The Heart of Black Preaching is an effort to go back into three hundred years of black preaching history to see if we could discover some thread that ran throughout the whole of our preaching in this country. What I was able to discover is that there is in black preaching a common thread that centers around a sovereign God. Throughout history, in every period of our lives upon these shores, we have always believed that a sovereign, all powerful God was at work on our behalf. Had we not believed that I don’t know if we could have come through the dark night of slavery or the oppression of segregation and many other things that we have been able to come through.
http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/LaRue_4517.htm

That's definitely Black, but not Black theology – just plain old theology of a sovereign God.

On God requiring worship, we differ on the historical record of the bible, e.g. Romans 12 or Luke 4:8 which are pretty clear on God saying he's worthy of worship and demanding that. worship.

Not talking theology, per se, as much as history of the Bible and Jesus. “Some writers may toy with the fancy of a 'Christ-myth', but they do not do so on the ground of historical evidence. The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for the unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar. It is not historians who propagate the 'Christ-myth' theories.” (F.F. Bruce: 'The New Testament documents: Are they reliable?')

Essentially, historicity is not in dispute by secular of religious scholars. Jesus' theology, what he said, is what he himself has left us to believe or not, not forcing belief but warning us against rejecting him and even further commanding worship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jes…

The warning is for us to stop the silly judging of each other because we'll all stand before God one day:

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

I’m against any doctrine, theology, dogma or religion that teaches and/or promotes hate, and/or claims ownership of God – particularly any one of the main three Abrahamic Religions. Thru Judaism, the other two are based on the God/s of ancient Sumer and Egypt civilizations – primarily the Gods Ptah and Enki, which Yahweh can be traced back to. God cannot be owned…does not require worship…does not require belief in or faith in, and does not punish or reward humans.

The Democratic Party is about promoting hate, e.g. hate the “Evil Rich”, “BIG Corporations”, “White Men”, “White America”, etcetera etcetera etcetera. BLT is just one of the forms that the Democratic Party uses to promote hate.

I am probably more vocal about BLT than most white Americans; however, I suspect that their silence will show up in November as votes against Obama.

A ‘form’ of BLT may have been started by the NCNC in 1996, but it was not the doctrine of hatred that James Cone started with his Black Theology and Black Power (1969), and his A Black Theology of Liberation (1970). James Cone’s works were also heavily influenced by Islamism and Marxism…as he has stated.

The NT offers very little of Jesus’ own words, and offers a lot of words from the Roman citizen Paul, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Even the four Gospels have difficulty agreeing on what Jesus said, and/or even what actually happened, e.g. the sign on the cross, the crucifixion, and the resurrection. The few actual recorded words of Jesus are misunderstood to this day. Today’s NT is actually what the Roman Emperor Constantine I authorized, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Thomas Paine’s The Age Of Reason – Part I does a much better job at explaining the NT’s many discrepancies that I can.

Take a look at Dr. Cleophus James Larue, Professor of Preaching at Princeton Theological Seminary: “[the book] The Heart of Black Preaching is an effort to go back into three hundred years of black preaching history to see if we could discover some thread that ran throughout the whole of our preaching in this country. What I was able to discover is that there is in black preaching a common thread that centers around a sovereign God. Throughout history, in every period of our lives upon these shores, we have always believed that a sovereign, all powerful God was at work on our behalf. Had we not believed that I don’t know if we could have come through the dark night of slavery or the oppression of segregation and many other things that we have been able to come through.
http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/LaRue_4517.htm

That's definitely Black, but not Black theology – just plain old theology of a sovereign God.

On God requiring worship, we differ on the historical record of the bible, e.g. Romans 12 or Luke 4:8 which are pretty clear on God saying he's worthy of worship and demanding that. worship.

Not talking theology, per se, as much as history of the Bible and Jesus. “Some writers may toy with the fancy of a 'Christ-myth', but they do not do so on the ground of historical evidence. The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for the unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar. It is not historians who propagate the 'Christ-myth' theories.” (F.F. Bruce: 'The New Testament documents: Are they reliable?')

Essentially, historicity is not in dispute by secular of religious scholars. Jesus' theology, what he said, is what he himself has left us to believe or not, not forcing belief but warning us against rejecting him and even further commanding worship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jes…

The warning is for us to stop the silly judging of each other because we'll all stand before God one day:

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

I am probably more vocal about BLT than most white Americans; however, I suspect that their silence will show up in November as votes against Obama.

A ‘form’ of BLT may have been started by the NCNC in 1996, but it was not the doctrine of hatred that James Cone started with his Black Theology and Black Power (1969), and his A Black Theology of Liberation (1970). James Cone’s works were also heavily influenced by Islamism and Marxism…as he has stated.

The NT offers very little of Jesus’ own words, and offers a lot of words from the Roman citizen Paul, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Even the four Gospels have difficulty agreeing on what Jesus said, and/or even what actually happened, e.g. the sign on the cross, the crucifixion, and the resurrection. The few actual recorded words of Jesus are misunderstood to this day. Today’s NT is actually what the Roman Emperor Constantine I authorized, i.e. Pauline Christianity. Thomas Paine’s The Age Of Reason – Part I does a much better job at explaining the NT’s many discrepancies that I can.

Take a look at Dr. Cleophus James Larue, Professor of Preaching at Princeton Theological Seminary: “[the book] The Heart of Black Preaching is an effort to go back into three hundred years of black preaching history to see if we could discover some thread that ran throughout the whole of our preaching in this country. What I was able to discover is that there is in black preaching a common thread that centers around a sovereign God. Throughout history, in every period of our lives upon these shores, we have always believed that a sovereign, all powerful God was at work on our behalf. Had we not believed that I don’t know if we could have come through the dark night of slavery or the oppression of segregation and many other things that we have been able to come through.
http://www.csec.org/csec/sermon/LaRue_4517.htm

That's definitely Black, but not Black theology – just plain old theology of a sovereign God.

On God requiring worship, we differ on the historical record of the bible, e.g. Romans 12 or Luke 4:8 which are pretty clear on God saying he's worthy of worship and demanding that. worship.

Not talking theology, per se, as much as history of the Bible and Jesus. “Some writers may toy with the fancy of a 'Christ-myth', but they do not do so on the ground of historical evidence. The historicity of Christ is as axiomatic for the unbiased historian as the historicity of Julius Caesar. It is not historians who propagate the 'Christ-myth' theories.” (F.F. Bruce: 'The New Testament documents: Are they reliable?')

Essentially, historicity is not in dispute by secular of religious scholars. Jesus' theology, what he said, is what he himself has left us to believe or not, not forcing belief but warning us against rejecting him and even further commanding worship. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jes…

The warning is for us to stop the silly judging of each other because we'll all stand before God one day:

Rom 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.

Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

I’m against any doctrine, theology, dogma or religion that teaches and/or promotes hate, and/or claims ownership of God – particularly any one of the main three Abrahamic Religions. Thru Judaism, the other two are based on the God/s of ancient Sumer and Egypt civilizations – primarily the Gods Ptah and Enki, which Yahweh can be traced back to. God cannot be owned…does not require worship…does not require belief in or faith in, and does not punish or reward humans.

The Democratic Party is about promoting hate, e.g. hate the “Evil Rich”, “BIG Corporations”, “White Men”, “White America”, etcetera etcetera etcetera. BLT is just one of the forms that the Democratic Party uses to promote hate.

I know some polls are showing the race closer than it should be but I think that come election, Washington will be firmly in Obama's column.

What I hate is that the value and freedom to worship culturally – vs. worshiping one's own race or denigrating others – is a true Christian freedom. We can mix and not – and both are all good. It is possible to enjoy Black culture and find comfort there as a Black person with none of that remotely having to do with hating white.

But we's all confused. There is no black theology or white theology that can be justifiable. We can justify theology held by both and operating in a cultural context – because we ain't defining theology for ourselves and giving weight to some racial standard.

I think if you could hear the black expository preaching of W.J. Shaw, Caesar Clark, Gardner C. Taylor, Wyatt Tee Walker, or Manuel Scott, you'd be happy to pull up a pew on sunday after sunday…

Obama-Biden '08!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEM8JgPninI
“Hallelujer!” :>)

Obama-Biden '08