Jack & Jill Politics

Barack aced the debate in every way. Totally 21st century in his delivery, persona and message. FORWARD HO!!!!!

John King can take his electronic map of red states and blue states and shove them up his ass! His skills as a reporter are so obviously mediocre. to suggest that democratics were a larger part of the debate's vieweing audience is just hysterically some dumbass shit!

McSahme: " I'm white , I'm right, I'm in Mississippi, "I see dead people" I looked into Obama's eyes, and I saw the letters : L.O.S.T"

The pundits on CNN (Con News Network) are already setting stage for Palin & the VP debate by making excuses. Gloria Borger: "I think the bar is set so low, if she can get through the evening without any major gaffes, she'll be alright.' She only has one debate. Give me a effing break. And Jeff Tobin did just that.

My boy Jeffie called her and Wolf-man Blitzer on that shyt. Jeff: "I don't think we (talking heads) to say the bar is too low... (as Gloria squints sheepishly at Jeff and sqirms. Before he could finish making his point on contention, Wolfie boy says."That's all the time we have."

Yes, that's all the time we have for your bullshit!

OBAMA/BIDEN 2008

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rikyrah: I watched the debate where I had no access to my computer [at the hospital with my friend and her son]. But I was sooo proud of Mr. Obama!!
He is KNOWLEDGEABLE, had a COMMANDING, RELAXED PRESENCE [even when he was putting "McAncient" "on blast!] and WENT FOR THE JUGULAR when necessary!!

HE WON on all points :>)

Obama-Biden '08!!

It's wonderful to read so many anecdotes on so many different blogs - left and right - that so many undecideds and independents are going to vote for Barack after this debate.

I've been saying from day one that it does not matter how either of them actually performs. It's about who the Undecideds and Independents percieve the "winner" to be. People who have made up their minds are not likely to change it at this point.

I am thrilled to hear that both left and right blogs are stating that this crucial demographic is leaning towards Obama. That is what's important at this stage.

I think the deciding factors were two things:

1.) McCain came across as a petulant, spoiled brat. He did not come across as an Alpha Male, the way Bush managed to do at this point in the game 8 years ago. The difference is crucial. Most of us as a nation are sick and tired of the tactics of Neo-Con Artist in not being respectful. We are in a moment of crisis, and say what you want about the American people, but when it comes to money, we don't want our politicians stroking egos and playing games. We need ideas and consensus that will lead to results. That is what Obama was showing he can offer as opposed to McCain.

2.) We are tired of being vilified by the rest of the world; and being seen as ignorant, simple-minded bullies. Most of the Independents and Undecideds want to change that perception. Obama's actions tonight shows that with him, we have that possibility. McCain's actions show the exact opposite.

Biden giving the response. Where is Caribou Barbie?

Revving up the Caribou Barbie Snowmobile and hightailing it back to Alaska.

I've seen Biden's post game analysis, where is Palin?

Somewhere hiding and praying that nobody asks her any questions.

I was impressed with Obama this evening. He really tamed the stuttering, looked confident, informed, authoritative and most importantly presidential. I could have watched another hour of this because he really laid out who he would be as a our leader, not by reading a speech, but going head to head with the competition addressing real issues.

Bravo, Obama, Bravo.

The debate started out kinda boring actually. McCain began to catch my attention, and then for a brief moment I began to worry that he might actually finish with some cred. But then I realized that the past few days' drama was all about getting me to drop my guard and lower my expectations of McCain.

That's when Barack took control of the debate, and assumed the role of statesman rather than ... well ... punk, the way McCain did. Barack debated in a classic, conventional style; listening carefully, acknowledging the obvious area of agreement while disagreeing and drawing distinction where appropriate.

Barack had an overall better command of the issues. And he wore the garment of President quite well. In my mind, he won this thing based upon my perception of how a debate is traditionally won. If I had any criticism, it would be (a) not to "agree" with McCain ever again (basically because McCain showed himself to be utterly disagreeable); and (b) immediately hire a speech coach to rid himself of the stammer with which leads off his sentences.

McCain held his own, and demonstrated a better-than-average grasp of world geography--he's 722 years old, so he's been around the world a few times. Still, he came across as dismissive, condescending and at times contemptuous. Not a quality that we want in a 21st century president with plenty of fence-mending on his to-do list.

RonnieB: Could you imagine having a "POUTING PRESIDENT"!! He gets mad and then stops talking to a heads of state! :>) :>) PUH-leeze!

Obama-Biden '08!!

But I think I saw CNN's tracking poll (FWIW) go up when Obama said he agreed with John. It's part of Obama's brand to disagree without being disagreeable. McCain smirks. Obama finds common ground. After 8 years of smirking, Americans are ready for affability.

I do agree that Obama needs more coaching on that stammer, but he's SO much better now than a year ago. (C'mon, let's say it: thank you, Hillary, for all the practice).

I loved it when McCain turned beet red when Obama pointed to McCain's failed lead singing career with the Beach Boys. McCain damn near looked like he was ready to say that word Republicans been itchin' to say when they settled on 'uppity.'

Score that one and "I got a bracelet too" to Barack... Now, me... I would have had McCain old azz running from behind his podium wanting to fight. If I was Obama, I would have looked down at the short man and said, "I gave up playing with Rock 'Em, Sock 'Em Robots when I was a kid. Get yo' stiff azz back over them behind that podium. You act like I sung your version of the song or something. Look at you..."

Nquest: LOL!!

L....O....L !!!!!!!

McAncient was so petty, using his final remarks to attack Obama. But then again, what could you expect from a Punk.Ass.Bitch

I think Obama was wise to begin forcefully and end in a conciliatory fashion.

I think Obama looked very strong and unafraid, which IMHO was a very key objective for Obama. Obama confronted McCain straight on though also, a success IMO.

Rikyrah:

That's Senator Punk.Ass.Beeyotch!

Screw the pundits; bring out Chris Rock for his take on this shyt.

I am surprise at those who are surprised that McCain would do better. When it comes to debates McCain is no Bush.

Who said he did better - we didn't.

Some people on the blogosphere was expecting McCain to be an old doddering fool.

Well they left out angry - angry doddering fool!

LOL

he wasn't...?

LOL!!!

Let's add bratty, angry, doddering, fool. The way he wouldn't look at Obama, it came across like a spoiled brat.

It is more about winning the spin AFTER the debate than the debate itself. Bush LOST all six debates but won the spin afterwards every time

Well they can try and spin it all they want but the viewers just polled by ALL NEWS ORGANIZATIONS SAY OBAMA WON - by large margains I might add.

Of course, John King tried to say they were probably democrats (haha, yeah right only democrats are watching - no republicans).

Then Christine Amanpour came in to say that she spoke to many people around the country would like America restored in the rest of the worlds eyes. The usual McCain puppet pundits were silent.

Seeing America restored got big ups on the CNN tracker... we all feel it.

I hate that motherfucker John KIng. I really do.

Anthony: Me 2!!

Obama looked good tonight. Very good command of the facts

Why the hell is Harold Ford's ass on MSNBC? I should turn the tv, but I can't stomach the hateration on CNN.

He's there to provide hateration from a so-called "brotha".

That, plus he was fired at Fox Noise.

Ditto, me. I'm looking for the least hateration too. I also thought the same about Harold, but he didn't suck too bad. More koolaid for Harold!

That's not koolaid Harold's drinking. Merrill Lynch might not be around much longer. That brotha's trying to line up his next hustle...hopefully in an Obama Administration.

Harold will probably be the first brotha Obama says "Thanks, but No THANKS.!"

No that is Michael Nutter

ROFL

No, Ford was surprisingly decent.

That's a stretch, considering all the haterade he's thrown at Obama since 2007.

He has gotten aboard the Obama lave train ever since he realized Obama was going to be the Dem nom. It was a sudden and obvious change in attitude. He's been positioning himself for a role in the White House for a few months.

Yeah, I could tell. He's been using more of the jeri curl juice in his hair. It was so shiny on TV. Does anyone else think he looked like he got a tan? Tryna be "down for the cause" now...I guess... *shrugs*

Too late, JunePearl.

Like anyone's gonna forget he got Snowflake on his arm, now. Unless he's going to tan her up and kink up her hair and get her to "pass" for a sista.

LOL

LOL!! I can see it now: First he calls Cousin Pam'n'em to come over to his house to fix up his wifey's hair. Then Cousin Pam's kinking iron isn't working, so she tells D.Sith to run over to the all night bodega from some Yaki, some superglue, and some spray-on tan.

Meanwhile Snowflake is crying because she doesn't know who "these dark people are, he never told me he was Black", and is confused about why she needs to apply Soul Glo on him everynight so his curls stay fresh.

Then after Obama becomes president he's sitting by the phone waiting for the phone call from Obama to join the Cabinet. But after two months he realizes it isn't going to happen and he calls up his buddy Clinton to put in a good word for him.

But when Clinton says Hillary has him waiting by the phone, in case Obama calls them, D.Sith breaks down crying while his wife is cutting up all the split ends from over-processing his hair.

At the end of the day, this Debate wasn't about anything specific, it was about who was the biggest Alpha Male. On that score, the meanness, petulance and condescending attitude displayed by John McCain gives him the edge.

Barack was and is a gentleman and a scholar. We're back in stalemate again because there was no knockout punch tonight. If anything, McCain did better than I expected.

uhhh no.

Tonight was John McCain's night. He was on his home turf -- foreign policy. Obama had to correct HIM once and then he stumbled over a name he should have known. Then he kept going back into 1940 something because whatever he was talking about went way over my head and I am 40 years old. He was stuck in time, very combative and proved we cannot afford to have that loose cannon representing the US in any emergency situation. He knows nothing outside of WAR.

He couldn't even bring himself to look at Barack and called him Senator Obama whereas Barack called him JOHN. LOL

sad and touching. No dear, McCain LOST. He got his butt kicked in his own front yard. They can't spin it any other way.

How does McCain come off "knowledgeable" and Obama "professorial"? Damn you pundits!

At the very end when McCain got all nasty saying Obama did not have the judgement or experience, and he himself did not need "on the job training", I think Obama should have went back at him.

But that is the vengeful side of me. He took the diplomatic route and just made a closing statement. I don't know how this will be interpreted.

So far Obama acting with maturity is being portrayed as weak. That really tells us where our values are doesn't it. Acting like a grown-up is a sign of weakness. Hmm, how about that?

If this campaign season has taught us anything its that...being mature and calm is weak, being intelligent and raising the level of discourse is bad, speaking in thought provoking sentences is not the way to go.

We are a society of reality TV, catchy phrases and slogans and microwaveable food. I am ashamed of this country.

I hope you're saying that ironically, Miranda: Obama won the primary after all.

I'm ready to believe (hope!) that Americans are ready for more. We don't need all of them to want something better. Just most.

And if you're interested in traveling the world and getting to know other cultures that makes you an elitist (so sez Alaska Governor Lady).

McCain proved one thing. He is king of the assholes. Look up "asshole" in the dictionary and you will see a fake McCain smiling back at you.

Chris Matthews just called McAncient out for not looking at Obama.

Did I just see McCain's eye twitching.. yikes. He just seems like such a poor sport. The type to want to go to war with a country if he doesn't get what he wants.. (sound familiar?)

Oh, McCain looked at Obama for 2.6 seconds when he shook his hands. That makes 2.9 seconds for the whole debate.

McCain looked like he just wanted to get the hell out of there.

He knows he lost this debate. And I wish Katie Couric would drink her can of STHU, cause she's trying to spin this for McCain and is failing badly.

I think Obama won the debate too.
I am curious how the media will spin the debate.

I can hardly wait for the other debates.

Say what you like about who won or loss, but the indies were not feeling McCain.

Pat B. is trying the same thing. I don't understand these people. Oh, and btw, I told y'all McCain repeating the same thing over and over again is going to be talked about. We need to watch and pray guys.

Buchannan says McShame won also..

That's Pat. If he said Obama won I would fall off my chair. He is there to be the old conservative close minded white guy. It's who he is and lucky for him he gets paid for it.

pjamma: True dat!! Him - I can't stand!! He's a "born-again RACIST!"

Obama-Biden '08!!

But that's a given...

Where is Ron Paul when we need him?

I can't stand it! Take care of the troops but you voted against the recent GI Bill?!!!! Obama doesn't have the knowledge or experience?!!!!! Can you get any more disrespectful and low?

McCain wouldn't know knowledge if it found its way into his big ass head

Awww hell. When he came home from prison...

did McSlain say American blood an' treasure ??!!

He said he'd take care of veterans.

He does that...by VOTING AGAINST ANY BILL THAT WOULD HELP THEM!

Only listening to Caribou Barbie, have I heard more lying than I've heard tonight.

He said he loved them....

I don't think O nailed him on that lie.

"He does that...by VOTING AGAINST ANY BILL THAT WOULD HELP THEM!"


Exactly, I wanted Obama to emphasize that point. Also, I have heard it mentioned that his contributions by military personnel in uniform far exceeds McCain.

Obama has an 80% rating from Vets

McCain 20%

I'm sorry, but they both want to fight a war. I will not vote for anyone that thinks we need to stay overseas. Bring them home, rebuild this economy and infrastructure!

sparkie07: Did you vote for any president? Some war has been going on forever under their watch. Guess you'll be staying home on Nov. 4.

Obama-Biden '08!!

Well I for one think war is necessary. Does anyone here really believe that war is off the table under Obama? Seriously? lol . And yes I would love it if we could live in a world with no war, in a world where all the troops can all come home. But that will never happen. We do have an enemy that needs to be killed for what happened on September 11th.

You're right. Even if you go with Sen. Obama, you could get sent to Afghanistan (if you're a soldier).

But at least Obama will have consulted everyone before storming in.

Unlike McCain, who just wants to Bomb, Bomb, Bomb the hell out of everything instead of negotiation before firing the first shot.

We have no allies - even Britain, France and Germany don't want to deal with out shyt because of George Bush's attitude of "My way or the Highway."

I know in Britain, all American expats are voting because they want Obama to win. And the British are wishing they could vote, because they want someone in the White House that makes sense and can articulate thoughts and talking points.

Something Bush never did and McCain never will.

McCain lied about warning of the impending financial crisis. In November 2007 he said he didn't see it coming. http://tinyurl.com/438knf

UUUUUUGGGGGHHH!! Stop saying "Obama doesn't understand", it's too obvious!!! Everyone knows what you're trying to do McCain! It doesn't work if people know what you're trying to do. It has to be subtle to be most effective.

He sounds like Sarah with 2 talking points

1) Work in Ronald Reagan
2) Attempt to belittle Obama by saying he just doesn't understand.

Can you believe that idiot Palin calling Obama "naive"?

you know I couldn't believe it. You would think that I would begin to expect the unexpected.

obama you see sonny boy you don't understand.....

McCain's lying has gotten out of hand and I wish Obama would say "Jim, I mean John, you are telling a bold face, Sarah Palin lie!!"

I hope he puts up some information on his site tomorrow that addresses all of the lies McCain has spewed tonight.

"Let's move on", said Obama

"Before you start lying again," Obama's thinking.

WTF? McCain just invoked Lieberman? GTFOH!

RE: Lieberman

I'm saying? WTH?

Shug, that screeching you hear is the screaming of ReThugs who are going to stay home on November 4th.

Especially invoking his partnership with Lieberman. Doesn't that rat bastard know the best way to rally the fence-sitters is to invoke Lieberman?

Since when has Venezuela been a rogue nation?

Since they got oil and won't let America have it unless it's on Chavez' terms. LOL

It also doesn't help that Hugo is a light-skinned Black guy with a whole lotta oil. That was Saddam's problem, too.

Brothas with oil.

Burned them every time!

CPL,

Can't nobody say that brotha Chavez's terms, whatever they may be, are unreasonable.

No, SB, they can't.

But our government leaders are so used to stealing and just taking what they want, they don't know how to ask nicely.

Obama won this debate. All McCain has is bitter smiles, condescension, and anger.

80% of live bloggers at mudflats think Obama won

most def

DAMN!

Swipe at Bush "looking into his eyes and seeing his soul"

DAYUM

I can't listen to McCain anymore. I really can't.

neither can i. all i hear is blahblahblahblah...lies...blah.

and Sen. Obama just doesn't understand....argh!

"Senator Obama, Can you see Russia from your house????"

John McCain is about to lose it!

YES! Please let him. McCryptkeeper is a psychotic warmonger (think Dr. Strangelove). I hope that O states that The Mummy has voted the least of any Senator in america, only 36% of the time.

Yes he is - O want Obama to keep pushing him - he's on the edge.

He keeps invoking Reagan.

Didn't Reagan pull out of Pakistan when it became apparent we weren't going to win?

That rat bastard won't mention those facts.

I wish he could mention the Keating Five and watch McCain turn beetroot.

John is losing it!!!!

GOOD! Let him lose it!

He can hardly believe he is at Ole Miss having a presidential debate with a Negro.

And that Negro is whupping his melted behind!

Exactly!

McCain keeps talking about Russia. Has Palin given him all of her insights on Russia since she can see Russia from Alaska? Bwwwaahahahaaa!!

Is McCain seriously arguing about the height of N. Koreans and S. Koreans? He's pathetic.

He has nothing else - nothing.

that was ridiculous

Did he just respond to Obama calling him out for lambasting an ally by saying "I don't have a seal yet"? He's been waiting to say that all night, you could tell by that laughing voice he said it with.

Go 'head Obama. Call him out on that not meeting with Spain stuff. I love it!!!

O is warming up!!! McCain almost had a fit with his notepad over the "preconditions" argument!

O is really throwing down on the International relations! You go, O!

oh yeah almost making jokes regaridng having tea and the Spain comment.

That was great.

He got a chuckle from the audience on that one.

and we know our boy isn't known for his humor =-)

Obama is killing him on Iran response!

okay, it's 7:10pm pacific: john mccain just lost this debate.

Barack just landed a sucker punch with the response to McCain's no diplomatic talking shyt.

Kapow!!!!

i really do not want this to end! Palin is rubbing off on McCain. I want to hear McCain try to pronounce Medvedev's name.

WTF is LEAGUE OF DEMOCRACIES?

US History is my passion. never heard of it.

Did McCain just say "so we don't ever torture a prisoner ever again???"

LOD ? Code for New World Order 4.0 sis. Replace paralyzed UN...another lame ass attempt to chop Russia from the sandbox....not go' happ'n on McSlain's desparate words alone.

doesn't he want to create a "leage of democracies?"

barack has one HELL of a voice---a GREAT, beautiful timbre. africa is all in that voice. good lord.

I agree & it is something that I love about him. I'm sure Michelle loves it more! I love to see him walk.

MCSame said he doesn't even have a seal yet. I said, you got a seal, punk. Its your wife.

* (flicker of hope...I'm done)........ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!.........*tears*............YOU ARE SO WRONG FOR THAT!!!!!.....................LMAO!

LOL!

Is he trying to Rediscover the UN?

Last seen, McCain was all in favor of eliminating the UN.

Wasn't it McCain that wanted the back and forth between them? Why the hell can't he cock his head a bit to the left and look at the man? He hasn't even addressed Obama like he is speaking TO him.

He can't look at Barack. If he looks at Barack, he will become real. If he becomes real, he won't be able to make up stuff about him.

The minimum O had to do was not loseon McCain's "turf".....mission accomplished.

In fact, I think he did a great job in many areas. It's just hard to deal with a blizzard of lies from a dishonourable opponent, especially when the moderator doesn't help out by pointing out inconsistencies.

That's too much like respect, Nick.

And we know McCaint doesn't show anyone respect...not even his wife.

I'm telling y'all, we need to paint the man as the elitist that he is. Can't even look our man in the eye. He knows he's lying through his teeth and playing games.

YES.

No eye contact, even during the closing handshake.

Obama: I've got a bracelet too. From the mother of Sgt. Ryan David Jopek http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

McCain is winning this debate :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(

Some will see it that way, as you do.

I'm actually quite bored because they won't actually debate. Because McCain can't actually talk to Barack.

That's a sure sign that he thinks himself superior. It's Hillary all over again.

Yeah, I bored too. Which is why I finally logged on to see what everybody was saying.

I don't know if it is because all of the drama of this week and this being the first debate that expectations are so high that the debate so far is just, eh.

Not seeing it, Webb, but always welcome skeptics.

If your idea of McCain winning is him speaking the same "points" over and over, then yes, McCain is winning.

But remember, that's how public relations works. Say the same thing over and over so everyone remembers it. But as far as winning? Really, I still think it's too early to tell. It doesn't matter who wins, it's who the mainstream thinks wins.

No, actually he is not.

What the debate are you watching?

I understand where Webb could be coming from in this respect, the expectation for McCain is SO low that if he is even somewhat coherent he appears to be winning. Or at the minimum, it will be called a draw.

Obama!
STOP SAYING YOU ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH HIM. Even if there is a point that you do. Dang.

to show he is bipartisan and can find common ground and agree on basic issues even if they have profound disagreements.

It worked with the independents.

Exactly! Whenever the rat bastard senses an opening, he attacks. Barack keeps giving him openings by saying he agrees with him.

I have a bracelet too boo.

Obama's bracelet: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/ar...

That was the line of the night.

I think part of the reason McCain won't look at Obama is that he's trying to control his anger. We all know that's his weak spot. Obama "daring" to look at him at eye level (oh, and knowing that Obama is right) makes him upset at the "uppity-ness" of Obama. He's a fit to be tied.

BTW, what's up with the personal stories? Is this a speech? I thought this was a debate about issues?

OMG, our boy just said "I got a bracelet too"!! Oh, it's on y'all!

I wish this whole "elitist" problem didn't exist because the next time I hear McCain tell Obama he doesn't understand I want him to throw up his credentials in his face. But that'll do nothing but make me (and probably some of you) feel better.

Why is McCain telling this same story? I mean, call me insensitive, and God rest that boys soul, but now is not the time to tell the same tired (probably exaggerated) stories!


"I've got a bracelet too!" lol

Its a strategy to reach audiences by inserting the human interest element. Remember Hillary got blasted for "embellishing" a story of a woman who allegedly got turned away from a hospital when she took her child there for health care. It humanizes the candidate and makes them likeable. It shows their connection with "every man." O needs to do more of it.

mccain needs to stop with the dumb ass military family sob stories.

Don't go there. alot of front line soldiers are AfricanAmerican or Hispanic. They do not make much money and lose a lot if the member dies.

I know one thing, McCain is pissing me off with this "Senator Obama doesn't understand" shit.

and there it as at 9:00 on the dot, his reference to his service.

I thought I was the only one getting pissed at that shyt.

Politico points out Obama is calling McCain John or Sen McCain while McCain is consistently calling him Sen. Obama

When will we ever stop hearing about how great Reagan was???? Let the man rest. He is GONE, wasn't that smart, and that trickle down mess has failed!

McCain keeps saying "I don't think Sen. Obama understands..."

I bet that is working....

I'll bet that a lot of people see it as condescending.

It's incredibly disrespectful. He deserves to get hit for that mess.

That is getting on my nerves!

When McCain said Barack doesn't know the difference between a "strategy and a tactic," Barack should have paused, got a HUGE GRIN on his face, and said, "Dear John, you and George Bush's strategies have placed our men and women in harm's way on the basis of FALSE PREMISES. You have engaged our nation FOR THE FIRST TIME IN PRE-EMPTIVE WARFARE!!! Don't DARE lecture me on the difference between Strategy and Tactics!"

Barack's letting McCain DRIVE this debate. Barack NEEDS to take CONTROL of this SHYT.

That's all right. "Ride or Die" Joe Biden cleaned that up quick on CNN and pointed out that one of the generals (I think) called the surge a "tactic" used in the overall strategy to create space for the Iraqi government.

Biden also picked up on what Obama didn't: the surge is IN THE PAST just like the "bad" decision to go war (I wish Obama could just call that racist sh*t out for what it is AND, since he can't raise the idea of Iraqis killed via invasion/occupation in humanity terms, raise the Iraqi refugee and casualty/loss of life issue as how the war strategy is a failure and none of the Iraqi dead (their families) or refugee feel like we liberated them from a damn thing. Unfortunately he had to dodge the "are we safer" question but I would have gone there: "think about it, when 911 happened, when civilian Americans suffered... think about the anger and feelings of revenge that stirred in Americans... Now tell me how going into Iraq has made us safer."

???

Obama hit him on his silly "bomb bomb bomb Iran" comment.

Go O

kapow!!!!

Missed the beginning. What was Michelle wearing?

I didn't love it. It was a very busy pattern with some random bow at the collar. Maria Pinto again I do believe.

Didn't love it, but I like it better than the dress the night of his acceptance speech.

yeah, and that acceptance speech dress was just a smidge tight in the hips, which was a bit problematic.

He is willing to point a gun at Iran and Russia but not Pakistan get the fuck out of here.

If he points a gun at Russia I'm ducking for cover in the caribbean!

That's because the shit in Pakistan IS FUCKING SERIOUS.
Pakistan IS the most dangerous country on Earth, and his lameass cookie cutter, cowboy STUNTS won't mean shit there.

Russia - we just have to watch

Iran -nothing but bullshit. They're no closer to an atomic weapon than you or me. Iran hasn't invaded other countries, in what, centuries? Not in their nature. Our problems with Iran are because of our 51st state.

Tell it.

McCain's probably pissed that he might be forced to take Barbie off the VP ticket. At this stage of the game, that's a goalpost he can't move without literally stealing a touchdown.

His goose is cooked - all that's needed is the duck sauce to wind it up.

And if I were Obama, I'd be pissed, too:

Offered an olive branch - got spat in his face and McCain tried to punk him;
Wife attacked as an angry Black Woman; McCain's wife wears $300K worth of shyt and still looked like something the cat dragged in;
Every concession made and every rule followed - no anger shown; and Obama is still being dissed on every level thrown at him.

This has been going on for over a year. I don't blame him for his pissivity. Not in the least.

O is not allowing McAncient to lie on him!

Obama's graph is going up as his temper cools down.

He needs to highlight that point about "Spending money in Iraq and borrowing money to take care of home". I almost missed that, and the phrasing is very good.

John really is not looking at Obama! If he keeps this up he's gonna look condescending and, dare I say it, elitist. Keep digging your hole McCain!

O is bringing it! McCon is such a rat bastard (hence, the teeth). A majority of the american people want an end to the war. O is doing great!

"rat bastard"...that's it.

rat bastard...I'll use it interchangeably with Punk.Ass.Bitch

'Fraid I can't take credit for that stroke of brilliance....that was Teacher.

I'm sick of the rat bastard saying Obama doesn't understand, I want Obama to stop that bullshit RIGHT NOW!

he is challenging it by what he is doing.

he can't control McCain's actions.

Where is Mccain's flag pin?

check the temple of his campaign manager

You don't want to know.

He is doing a good jog keeping the debate on a conversational and average Joe/John level!

He poked fun of John not knowing how committees work. love it

Obama/Biden 08

Obama said the surge would not work, BUT HE ALSO SAID WAYYYYY BEFORE THAT WE SHOULD NOT HAVE GONE THERE. He forgets to mention that part that McAncient.

What is there to win in Iraq? THEIR FREEDOM? Get the fuck out and they'll be free.

John almost lost it when Obama said he voted with Bush 90% of the time. O needs to keep hitting that point.

Well, TS, you can't be a "Maverick" if you do what someone else does 90% of the time.

That's a good line...I wish O had used it.

McAncient's speaking is getting to be as disjointed and nonsensical as Caribou Barbie's. She's dragging him down to her trailer park level!!

That's 2 "Miss Congeniality" references! Is McCain pissed at Pfailin for making him look bad (erratic, crazy???)

What's up with the Miss Congeniality? What man refers to a beauty pageant?

A rat bastard, punk assed biotch with a beauty pageant dumb ass Miss Congeniality VP

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Maybe he's gay.

I think McCain's unconscious is telling on him. His sexist mind is pissed that Palin is messing up. 2 Miss Congeniality references?????

I think he is trying to get some of the female votes back for when/if he gives Palin the boot.

I don't think that at all. I think he's a clueless sexist from a bygone generation with a bad temper.

Oh snap!! He called him John and called him out! I loves it!

IF I HEAR HIS MISS CONGENIALITY LINE ONE MORE TIME

Add "fundamental", "many many years"and "Maverick" to that

I got $20 on 10 "fundamentals", 15 "many many years"...and no less than 30 "mavericks". Any takers?

John will not look at Obama!!!! Not once!!!

That left eye droops whenever he looks at Obama. LOL

even the pic on CNNs website where they are shaking hands McCain isn't looking at him. just disrespectful.

it IS disrespectful. but then, I expect no less from Senator Country Last

Some bad shit went down in that meeting at the White House! LOL

Like McCain trying to punk Obama into that meeting and sat through said meeting while getting pwkned by Obama, was not what McCain had in mind.

TS,

when I read that Obama ' CALLED ON MCCAIN'

don't need to know anything else about that meeting..LOL

I think we can translate that move by O to a "you got me f-ed up........better ask somebody"

I think Obama is doing very well so far. I'm amazed at how little McCain has to say. He's got nothing.

O is hanging in! He is doing great as far as not stammering is concerned.

Thats right! End the war! O is bringing it. Is anyone listening to Pacifica?

cosign, on the lack of stammering. Go O!

I'm so glad, I was worried about that.

Spending freeze!!!!!!!!! Taking care of veterans and defense. What about everything else? Wow, dude is scary.

McCain said in the 60 minutes interview that he'd cut defense spending!!

McCain just pulled that "spending freeze" out of his ass. He's never mentioned that sh1t before.

Straight up outta his ass is right.

He has been waiting to debut it! LOL, maybe to throw Obama off.

I'm ready for a TKO...ain't seen nothing yet...yawn

I know I live in Hollywood and so my pespective is skewed, but dayum, McCain needs some Crest Whitestrips or something!

I think Obama's trying to avoid the cool-hand Luke reputation. I kinda like him bringing the fiyah!

The chemicals in the whitening might mix poorly with his meds. Lord knows we don't want the man to have any more medical problems.

How would it look to have shiny whites in a death mask??

;-)

trick-or-treat!

LOL!!!!

If you're watching CNN, they've got a graph at the bottom showing what a group of repub, dem & ind think about the responses.

Is Obama foaming at the mouth???

I agree...HE NEEDS TO CALM THE **** DOWN. These debates are more about the aura of the Presidency...people need to be lookin at Barack and feelin, "I want him to be my President," and not see that apparent anger....The anger belongs to people like me. Barack ain't running for President of JJP. He's running to be the POTUS.

his ANGER is a perfect reflection of the ANGER that most of the people are feeling right now! he needs to mirror our ANGER!

anyway, he doesn't seem angry--he seems SERIOUS. as he sould be!

Between McCain and Lehrer he's about to get real

His anger is showing and it's going to either work for him or against him. At the same time, McCain appears Dazed and Confused and basically keeps bringing the same thing up over and over again...

I think for him, those undecideds are looking for a more aggressive Obama.

Obama is pissed from what happened in Washington.

He may be pissed, but he can not look like he's pissed. That's the job of people like me...BARACK NEEDS TO SMILE AND CUT/SLICE THAT MOTH****** UP....that's the way to victory. Anger is not the route to victory...A Smiling BodySlam is necessary.

I agree..he can turn it down just a tiny bit.....pace himself. Wait for McCain to say something really stupid, THEN turn up the fire!

I disagree. He can look pissed. The election is in 39 days.

Anovelista, you know the effect of media reverberation...Barack needs to be doing things that will reverberate beyond this debate...my FEAR is that the perception of "Angry Black Male" will be imposed upon him...that is my GREATEST FEAR...and if that occurs this race is over...

I don't think he needs to be limited by that tonight - the ABM stereotype. Take it from a woman who gets the ABW stereotype often. It's not like he's going off.

McCain is the one with the temper. Obama doesn't have to be a complete milquetoast.

do you think that is bad? IMy thinking is that it combats the perception that he is too cool.

I am SO glad that Obama is addressing McCain's idea of taxing health care benefits. The ppl at my job that are voting for McCain, particularly for tax purposes, didn't believe me.

McCain didn't rebutt...and Obama needs to keep going for the jugular.

McCain did not rebut either...

He just grins like an F-ing idiot. I like how Sen. Obama is calling him out on his lies. FINALLY.

me too. He is showing no fear.

I wish we could have a timeout, a commercial break, or something similar...like a boxing match, Barack needs to come over to his corner and have Axelrod tell him, "Calm down! Calm down! BE COOL HAND LUKE and take McCain OUT." Barack looks angry tonight...that's not cool.

I'm not watching, just listening and he sounds very very cool and composed.

Don't know the significance of that, if anything -- is sound part of the equation for people watching?

I think you need to calm down - his anger will draw out McCain's unbridled anger and he will fly off the handle.

McCain sounds like a commercial.

He is about to lose it. He is about to lose his mind. How dare Obama cal me john. He calls him senator because he can't say Barack....LOL