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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-162132</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 16:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RhondaCoca:  Major &quot;virtual daps&quot; to you/family!!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  :&gt;0&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What inspiring accomplishment(s) for both the men and women!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yaaaaaa!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RhondaCoca:  Major &#8220;virtual daps&#8221; to you/family!!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  :&gt;0</p>
<p>What inspiring accomplishment(s) for both the men and women!!!</p>
<p>Yaaaaaa!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39208</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 13:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RhondaCoca:  Major &quot;virtual daps&quot; to you/family!!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  :&gt;0&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What inspiring accomplishment(s) for both the men and women!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yaaaaaa!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RhondaCoca:  Major &#8220;virtual daps&#8221; to you/family!!!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)  :&gt;0</p>
<p>What inspiring accomplishment(s) for both the men and women!!!</p>
<p>Yaaaaaa!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: RhondaCoca</title>
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		<dc:creator>RhondaCoca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 08:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamaica is in a frenzy over this. My aunt called and told me that their are televisions in all of the squares.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My house was lit up because as I&#039;ve said here before, i&#039;m Jamaican so this is exciting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamaica is in a frenzy over this. My aunt called and told me that their are televisions in all of the squares.</p>
<p>My house was lit up because as I&#39;ve said here before, i&#39;m Jamaican so this is exciting.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39219</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 02:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99%:  &quot;WE&#039;RE the surrogates.&quot;    I agree!!!  That&#039;s why I keep learning from y&#039;all, then contributing [I hope!   :&gt;)]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am R-E-T-I-R-E-D!  Whooo - hoo!  For the past 9 days, I have been intensely caring for my mom [92 years Blessed!]  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Will return on Sat./Sun. 23/24.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been trying to contribute on my breaks!  :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Missed you/y&#039;all during the day [some nights, 2]   :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Thank you.   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99%:  &#8220;WE&#39;RE the surrogates.&#8221;    I agree!!!  That&#39;s why I keep learning from y&#39;all, then contributing [I hope!   :&gt;)]</p>
<p>I am R-E-T-I-R-E-D!  Whooo &#8211; hoo!  For the past 9 days, I have been intensely caring for my mom [92 years Blessed!]  :&gt;)</p>
<p>Will return on Sat./Sun. 23/24.</p>
<p>I have been trying to contribute on my breaks!  :&gt;)</p>
<p>Missed you/y&#39;all during the day [some nights, 2]   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>Thank you.   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39008</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>caligirl:   &quot;TURN, TURN. TURN!&quot;  [don&#039;t remember who sang it.   :&gt;)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>caligirl:   &#8220;TURN, TURN. TURN!&#8221;  [don&#39;t remember who sang it.   :&gt;)]</p>
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		<title>By: Admiral_Komack</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39030</link>
		<dc:creator>Admiral_Komack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 13:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Bud&#039;s for you (and this 6-pack, and this keg, hell, take these longnecks too).</description>
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		<title>By: taritac</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39013</link>
		<dc:creator>taritac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The McCains are a piece of work, aren&#039;t they? What kind of amoral people would lie about MOTHER THERESA?</description>
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		<title>By: taritac</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-38958</link>
		<dc:creator>taritac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 06:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two-thirds of US corporations paid no taxes last year. Two-thirds. You can&#039;t get a lower tax rate than zero.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two-thirds of US corporations paid no taxes last year. Two-thirds. You can&#39;t get a lower tax rate than zero.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s not suggesting he can&#039;t be elected, she&#039;s just pointing out that a lot of the opposition is about race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s not suggesting he can&#39;t be elected, she&#39;s just pointing out that a lot of the opposition is about race.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s not suggesting he can&#039;t be elected, she&#039;s just pointing out that a lot of the opposition is about race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#39;s not suggesting he can&#39;t be elected, she&#39;s just pointing out that a lot of the opposition is about race.</p>
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		<title>By: 99 Percent Sure</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39218</link>
		<dc:creator>99 Percent Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, in the age of the internet, WE&#039;RE the surrogates.  We shouldn&#039;t be waiting for someone else to do what we can do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;School must have started; I&#039;ve missed you online during the da. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, in the age of the internet, WE&#39;RE the surrogates.  We shouldn&#39;t be waiting for someone else to do what we can do.</p>
<p>School must have started; I&#39;ve missed you online during the da. :)</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-38957</link>
		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheap Labor and low taxes are the main reasons why businesses are moving overseas.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The BIGGEST incentive we can offer to corporations is a lower tax rate.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;U.S. corporate taxes are way too high and they are inhibiting American competitiveness. Corporations are sitting on literally trillions of dollars of gains locked up on their balance sheets. They’re sitting on this cash hoard because it doesn’t make sense to unlock them at the current 35 percent rate. It’s too high. Deals that look attractive on a pre-tax basis make little sense at all on an after-tax basis.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not only would slashing the corporate rate result in making the U.S. more competitive, and attract more investment to our shores (as it has done with remarkable success in Ireland and Eastern Europe), but it would actually result in higher wages for American workers. This would help ameliorate the wage inequality problem because the tax savings would go roughly 70 percent to workers and 30 percent to shareholders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But Obama and Democrats in general demonize corporations for wanting to (gasp) actually make money and they oppose pro-growth tax policies that would lay the foundation for US cities to compete for their business, spurring  improvements in infrastructure and creating jobs.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Obama&#039;s general view of this nation is not one of optimism and exceptionalism but one of moral equivalence that places totalitarian regimes such as China and Russia on the same plane as the US. I do not ascribe to this philosophy. We are an outstanding  nation because of our freedom, our confidence and our drive and our ingenuity, yet nothing in Obama&#039;s remarks convey that positive attitude.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;To further illustrate my point  today Obama equated Russia&#039;s invasion of Georgia with our toppling of Saddam Hussein:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    &quot;Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia again on Wednesday for invading another country’s sovereign territory while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    The Illinois senator’s opposition to the Iraq war, which his comment clearly referenced, is well known. But this was the first time the Democratic presidential candidate has made a comparison between the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Russia’s recent military activity in Georgia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;    “We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So our &quot;charging into&quot; Iraq--with dozens of allies, supported by a U.N. resolution, as a last resort after six months of build-up and negotiations, to unseat one of the cruelest dictators of modern times who had twice invaded neighboring states, was in violation of more than a dozen U.N. resolutions and was responsible for the deaths of something like two million people, who was shooting at American aircraft and had tried to assassinate a former President of the United States, in Obama&#039;s  mind, was just like Russia&#039;s &quot;charging into&quot; Georgia, which resembles Saddam&#039;s Iraq in no respect. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Russia invaded a peaceful democracy that it wants to re-incorporate into its empire.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was George F. Kennan, America’s ambassador to the Soviet Union, who said, &#039;Russia can have at its borders only enemies or vassals.&#039; Now, Georgia has been all but dismembered. The opening phase of this crisis may soon come to a close, but it is shaping up to be merely the first chapter in a potentially long and dangerous era.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The liberal progressive mindset that Obama possess and professes: moral equivalence with our enemies and a general worldview that we are the problem is not a message voters will respond favorably to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheap Labor and low taxes are the main reasons why businesses are moving overseas.</p>
<p>The BIGGEST incentive we can offer to corporations is a lower tax rate.</p>
<p>U.S. corporate taxes are way too high and they are inhibiting American competitiveness. Corporations are sitting on literally trillions of dollars of gains locked up on their balance sheets. They’re sitting on this cash hoard because it doesn’t make sense to unlock them at the current 35 percent rate. It’s too high. Deals that look attractive on a pre-tax basis make little sense at all on an after-tax basis.</p>
<p>Not only would slashing the corporate rate result in making the U.S. more competitive, and attract more investment to our shores (as it has done with remarkable success in Ireland and Eastern Europe), but it would actually result in higher wages for American workers. This would help ameliorate the wage inequality problem because the tax savings would go roughly 70 percent to workers and 30 percent to shareholders.</p>
<p>But Obama and Democrats in general demonize corporations for wanting to (gasp) actually make money and they oppose pro-growth tax policies that would lay the foundation for US cities to compete for their business, spurring  improvements in infrastructure and creating jobs.</p>
<p>Obama&#39;s general view of this nation is not one of optimism and exceptionalism but one of moral equivalence that places totalitarian regimes such as China and Russia on the same plane as the US. I do not ascribe to this philosophy. We are an outstanding  nation because of our freedom, our confidence and our drive and our ingenuity, yet nothing in Obama&#39;s remarks convey that positive attitude.</p>
<p>To further illustrate my point  today Obama equated Russia&#39;s invasion of Georgia with our toppling of Saddam Hussein:</p>
<p>    &#8220;Democrat Barack Obama scolded Russia again on Wednesday for invading another country’s sovereign territory while adding a new twist: the United States, he said, should set a better example on that front, too.</p>
<p>    The Illinois senator’s opposition to the Iraq war, which his comment clearly referenced, is well known. But this was the first time the Democratic presidential candidate has made a comparison between the U.S. invasion of Iraq and Russia’s recent military activity in Georgia.</p>
<p>    “We’ve got to send a clear message to Russia and unify our allies,” Obama told a crowd of supporters in Virginia. “They can’t charge into other countries. Of course it helps if we are leading by example on that point.”</p>
<p>So our &#8220;charging into&#8221; Iraq&#8211;with dozens of allies, supported by a U.N. resolution, as a last resort after six months of build-up and negotiations, to unseat one of the cruelest dictators of modern times who had twice invaded neighboring states, was in violation of more than a dozen U.N. resolutions and was responsible for the deaths of something like two million people, who was shooting at American aircraft and had tried to assassinate a former President of the United States, in Obama&#39;s  mind, was just like Russia&#39;s &#8220;charging into&#8221; Georgia, which resembles Saddam&#39;s Iraq in no respect. </p>
<p>Russia invaded a peaceful democracy that it wants to re-incorporate into its empire.</p>
<p>It was George F. Kennan, America’s ambassador to the Soviet Union, who said, &#39;Russia can have at its borders only enemies or vassals.&#39; Now, Georgia has been all but dismembered. The opening phase of this crisis may soon come to a close, but it is shaping up to be merely the first chapter in a potentially long and dangerous era.</p>
<p>The liberal progressive mindset that Obama possess and professes: moral equivalence with our enemies and a general worldview that we are the problem is not a message voters will respond favorably to.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TruthSeeker:   LOL  x2   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
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		<title>By: caligirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-38989</link>
		<dc:creator>caligirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so so so true!</description>
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		<title>By: caligirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/thursday-open-thread-6/comment-page-6/#comment-39007</link>
		<dc:creator>caligirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think their timing is perfect.  everything has a season.</description>
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		<title>By: caligirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>caligirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nooooo!   i REFUSE to go back to 1980!!!!    ;-)</description>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 01:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found this while watching C-SPAN:  &quot;When Women Vote-2008.  It was hosted by the Peter Hart Research Associates!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emilyslist.org&quot;&gt;www.emilyslist.org&lt;/a&gt; is an organization which is committed to electing pro-choice Democratic women to offices.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DATA presented:  Obama was leading &quot;McAncient&quot; by nice margins EXCEPT for so-called evangelical women.  I couldn&#039;t copy the chart fast enough.   SORRY!   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found this while watching C-SPAN:  &#8220;When Women Vote-2008.  It was hosted by the Peter Hart Research Associates!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.emilyslist.org">http://www.emilyslist.org</a> is an organization which is committed to electing pro-choice Democratic women to offices.</p>
<p>DATA presented:  Obama was leading &#8220;McAncient&#8221; by nice margins EXCEPT for so-called evangelical women.  I couldn&#39;t copy the chart fast enough.   SORRY!   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99%:  Maybe this is why I keep asking - - Where da surrogates!!?????&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Re:  billary - - Lawd I pray.   Please NO!!!!! &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Whew!  Praying Deep Breaths!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99%:  Maybe this is why I keep asking &#8211; - Where da surrogates!!?????</p>
<p>Re:  billary &#8211; - Lawd I pray.   Please NO!!!!! </p>
<p>Whew!  Praying Deep Breaths!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
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		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>msmartin:  I was able to watch it 2!   Whooo Hoo!!!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A Jamaican lady helps to care for my mom!  She was ecstatic!!  Kept giving me &quot;daps&quot;!!  It was 2 cute!!!!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)  :&gt;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>msmartin:  I was able to watch it 2!   Whooo Hoo!!!   :&gt;)   :&gt;)</p>
<p>A Jamaican lady helps to care for my mom!  She was ecstatic!!  Kept giving me &#8220;daps&#8221;!!  It was 2 cute!!!!!  :&gt;)   :&gt;)  :&gt;)</p>
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		<title>By: Miranda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miranda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 00:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh you aint neva lied.....she canNOT play anything off. Oh well, lots of black folks wear a mask every single day on their jobs, I don&#039;t have any sympathy that she neva had to learn to wear one too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh you aint neva lied&#8230;..she canNOT play anything off. Oh well, lots of black folks wear a mask every single day on their jobs, I don&#39;t have any sympathy that she neva had to learn to wear one too.</p>
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