Jed Said: "After days of blasting Russians for their belligerence in Georgia, NOW John McCain seems to be suggesting who is to blame for the crisis there."
"McAncient" said: "We will decide in subsequent days as whether degree of provocation and whe -- who was right and who was wrong."
"McAncient"???? HUH???? HUH??? "Tell Me What You Said" [kinda Ray Charles :>) Tell Me What'd I Say"]
Now remember - he wants to be the POTUS!! He who cain't speak with clarity!!!! :>)
The commenters said: Out with Dick Gregory - In with Rachel!!!
What say ye?? :>) :>)
caligirl
u mean DAVID gregory. :-)
but didn't i hear that dick was hatin' on obama too...?
GreenLadyHere
Yes, caligirl: OOPS!!! :>) :>)
Now on Dick: I believe that I watched him on a YouTube video and he was wishy-washy in his comments about Mr. Obama!! Hmmmmm? :>) :>)
Probably need to find it, again. But, I'll be away starting Fri./815. :>) :>)
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: Has there been a picture of The Honorable Shirley Chisholm? I thought I remembered some tribute, but not sure. Thank you very much. :>) :>) :>)
rikyrah
GreenLady,
I have put up a pic of Chisholm previously.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: Thank you. So it was here! :>) Chalk it up to my head and not my heart! TRANSLATION: My age is showin'! :>) :>) :>)
You know, I am not one who is ga-ga over Obama's looks or sex appeal. I don't think of him as a sex symbol. But in these pics, his back is looking niiiiiiice. And he doesn't look as scary-skinny as he usually does. He could work on his abs and pecs a little, of course, but that's just nitpicking.
GreenLadyHere
taritac: I AM!!!!! :>) :>) :>) [with all due respect to Mrs. Obama :>)]
Town
He needs some Jergens Self Tanning lotion to even himself up [/shallow]
GreenLadyHere
town: O.K. Where would I get some?? :>) :>) [with all due respect to Mrs. Obama. Just concerned about the well-being of the future POTUS :>)]
Town
LOL, I think you can go to any store in the lotion section and get it.
GreenLadyHere
Town: I'm on it!! :>) :>) Seriously, Thanks for entertaining my frivolous moment!! :>) :>) :>) :>) :>)
taritac
Har. Is that what they call a farmer's tan?
GreenLadyHere
O.K. In light of this "AGE-ISSUE", what's the deal with the GOLD metal and who's gonna make the righteous decision?
At Least 2 women gymnasts WERE NOT WOMEN!!! :>) How does that work?? :>) :>)
taritac
Unfortunately, I think no one is willing to hold China accountable. It's really sickening. Why the world continually bows down to this cheating, lying, torturing, authoritarian regime I don't know.
China wins by cheating in every aspect of international interaction. They steal copyrighted intellectual property, they use materials that are cheap but dangerous in their manufactured products, they cheat in Olympic competition, they support genocidal, but oil-rich nations, they lie when they say they aren't hording American currency (which means that either they've flooded the market with American dollars in the last couple years, driving the value of the dollar down, or our already devalued dollar is artificially high, and the Chinese have a nice ace in the hole), and they promise, but don't deliver, human and civil rights reforms in return for being accepted into world trade and being allowed a place on the world stage. Yet, the world just plays along, bringing no consequences for their shenanigans. We will live to regret it.
GreenLadyHere
taritac: Thank you for pointing out the BIGGER PICTURE!! :>)
pjamma
I had a totally random thought today. Do you think Obama inspired McDonalds new chicken for breakfast campaign because of his statements about how cold Popeye's chicken is not breakfast for children. Do you think someone said "there is a whole demographic out there eating chicken for breakfast? We have got to tap into that." And, thus, the breakfast chicken biscuit was born?
Just a thought.
taritac
LOL!!!
TruthSeeker
Pilot declared emergency on O's plane mishap in July.
GreenLadyHere
Corsi, "Obama Nation" author received a royal beat down on Larry King Live!!
OOPS! First there was the Milli Vanilli(??) "mis-step on DAY 1! Just Kidding - the girl "singing- it wasn't her voice!
Now: The WOMEN (??) gymnasts who won that GOLD metal!! Uhhhh - they WEREN'T WOMEN!!! Something about Ages 12, 13, 14, etc.!!!! OOOOOOO!! :>) :>)
One commenter said: "Just hand over the GOLD to the US Women's Team and we'll forget about this little mess." :>) :>) :>)
Whew! Shaking my head while looking for some additional mis-steps Deep Breaths! :>) :>)
MsKitty
Color me shocked...not. Anybody with a functioning set of eyeballs could see that some of those girls didn't look a day over 11. But it wouldn't be an Olympics without somebody being screwed over while the IOC looks the other way (*cough*Roy Jones*cough*).
Miranda
11?? I was thinking 9 myself. What do the old folks say? "dem gals dont even have no hairs"........LMAO!
taritac
Yeah, I thought 9, too. Even the 20 year old didn't look like she'd really hit puberty yet.
taritac
I saw that article. Pretty damning. Yet ANOTHER reason the IOC should never have given Beijing the Olympics.-- the Chinese CHEAT!!
Now, the American gymnasts certainly could have done better, but at least they played by the rules. The IOC is compounding this problem by refusing to do anything about it.
There are reasons that they set an age limit, not only because tiny people have a natural advantage in gymnastics, but also because putting growing bodies through such extreme conditioning may have long-term consequences.
Even if the girls are the right age, someone needs to ask what in the world have they been doing to keep themselves so small? They obviously haven't had puberty yet, something that should have happened even by age 14, certainly by age 16.
There needs to be outrage about this. If they can strip Marion Jones' medal away years after using performance enhancing drugs, they certainly should do something about this. Even if they let the girls keep the medals (they performed admirably-- it's not their fault, it's the government's), China needs to be heavily penalized in some way.
GreenLadyHere
taritac: Yes, on the American gynmasts! Not on their A-game! :>) Yes, on the negative effects on their growing bodies. Hmmm, on Marion Jones. She showed no respect for her team mates! Maybe they can PAINT one side of the Gold metal - SILVER!! :>) :>) That'll larn'em!!! :>) :>) :>)
Jay; I said this B4: On the statement that billary "suspended" her campaign and, therefore, did not release her delegates: I wondered if those delegates got the memo about Mr. Lincoln's actions abolishing slavery and their ability to vote - how they want to!!?? :>) :>) :>) So, I'm re-posting jes in case!! :>) :>) :>) :>)
APeach
It makes a certain amount of sense. You have her nominated, and her supporters vote for Obama. It would be a nice, symbolic, healing moment...if everyone follows the script.
And THAT is the concern. I do not trust the Clintonistas as far as I can throw them.
I am going to just hope that the Obama campaign has prepared for all scenarios.
APeach
I just want to thank you for posting a pic of the late, great Shirley Horn. I just loved her! Still do. She is dearly missed.
IF Rangel had any control over billary, he should be in the "KITTY LITTER BOX" with the PUMA"S!!!
But he HAS NO CATNIP - does he??? That would be a NO!!! So he hasn't delivered and, therefore, has NERVE asking for his 15 minutes - I hesitate to say fame!! :>) :>)
The whole essay is fierce, but this is how it ends:
The end of the Cold War was an opportunity to create a new one. For some, we now realize, the Cold War was not about democratic values versus totalitarianism, in the Kirkpatrick formulation. It was about American hegemony against any rival power, totalitarian or not, globally expansionist or not. The end of Communism was, for some, a problem. It removed a key rationale for military power. China was the first object of demonization, in the first months of the Bush administration; then - defensibly - Islamism; then Iran, Iraq and NoKo; now, Russia. Islamism may well be seen as a rival to Communism in ideological terms, and worthy of a new Cold War of sorts. But we also learned fast enough that its asymmetrical dispersal across the world made traditional warfare, as in the Cold War, irrelevant, even counter-productive. But we still put a militarist template on it in Iraq and Afghanistan. And it remains an over-arching defense of more traditional hegemonic actions - largely centered on oil supplies - in the Middle East. You can absolutely understand and defend a military state-centered response to 9/11 at the time. But we have surely learned the limits of its potential - indeed the further damage it can do.
McCain is very, very comfortable in this situation. It speaks his language. A thoroughly twentieth-century figure, he lives and breathes war and conflict as a state of being. For him, it is always 1938 somewhere; America's duty is to control, occupy or intervene wherever any rival seeks influence and any group does not share our alleged values. And so American power must be brought to bear in Georgia and Iraq and Iran and Burma and Darfur and Bosnia and anyplace else where American interests are threatened or democratic allies seek help. And for militarist American exceptionalists, this all makes sense. This is the higher purpose McCain lives for: the glory of liberation, the thrill of conquest, the adoration of the soldier, the defeat of evil.
But for conservatives whose goal is peace, not war; who are quite comfortable balancing global power with other great powers such as Russia, China, India and Europe rather than demanding an expanding American hegemony; who believe that defense means defense, not a proactive preference for war; who see war and control of other countries as something distasteful if it goes beyond pragmatic self-interest; those conservatives do not agree. For me, for example, the 1990s were a golden age. I missed none of the infirm glories of the end of Communism. It was fantastic not to have the West rallying to fight or living with existential threat or on the edge of ideological conflict. 9/11 indeed changed that - but the threat, we have discovered, is not something Cold War tactics can blunt. It does require police work, and strong alliances, and much better human intelligence, and better surveillance and smarter border control. Compared with these, the invasion of Iraq remains at best a wash in the terror war. We created terrorists that we subsequently had to fight, putting us in the awful position of recreating the dynamics of the war on drugs in the war in terror.
Where does thus leave us? If the reaction to the last week is any indicator, Americans are still viscerally committed to the kind of Cold War dynamics we once had a chance to leave behind. The Republican party especially thrives on such conflict, enabling it to dominate domestic politics with appeals to bravado and patriotism and empire. Meanwhile, America's fiscal standing continues to slide down and down; its military consumes more and more resources; dependence on foreign oil does not prompt us to find alternative energy resources as an urgent national security matter, but to face off against Petro-powers, demonize oil companies, offer gas tax gimmicks, and occupy dysfunctional regions in far away countries because our addiction to a substance that is wrecking the planet is too great to resist.
This is the way great powers fall. And this election presents us with a very rare chance to move in a different and more rational direction. Turning this around will be a monumental task because so many forces now conspire to push this country further and further along on this declinist, neo-imperial path. But it can be done over a generation.
Or to put it more bluntly: yes, we can. And yes, we must.
TruthSeeker
"McCain is very, very comfortable in this situation. It speaks his language. A thoroughly twentieth-century figure, he lives and breathes war and conflict as a state of being."
Yes.
I look at McCain's eyes and I don't see his soul. What I see is purely physical. Irises as black as deepest night, and peculiarly, do not reflect light. Somebody turned out the light in that room. Nuts? Maybe. I spent a lot of time studying people's faces as a kid...and compulsively sketching faces. The result being, whenever I see a photo, I get a mad urge to take a pencil and fill in the areas that don't seem proportional. Can't explain it, it just doesn't look "right".
Then one day I'm watching a 60 Minutes segment where a Canadian woman with severe depression is having an experimental, brain stimulating implant placed into area 25 of her brain. She's conscious, and can respond to the medical team. I think, If I saw her on the street, I wouldn't think she's depressed by looking at her face/eyes. But, I wouldn't think she looked cheerful either. Anyway, the surgeon is moving the probe around to find the sweet spot. Then suddenly, her face lights from within. She didn't pop her eyes wider - she didn't change her expression in any way, HER FACE LOOKED LIKE SOMEONE TURNED THE LIGHT ON, especially in her eyes! The nurse,(curse her) says to her(paraphrasing) did something happen, you look different! The patient had been about to speak without prompting....the nurse suggested to her that something was different(drat!). The woman responds that she suddenly noticed the colour of something in the room, she seemed animated somehow, and I had watched her face change right before my eyes.
I kinda look out for that light in people's faces...and sometimes the absence of it. It ain't science....but the peculiar absence of light in McCain's irises make the fine hairs along my spine, prickle. Sorta like that moment in a Stephen King novel when your sphincter tells you some bad shit is about to go down.
What does a masterful horror writer, Area 25, resistant depression and McCain have to do with each other? Only the intuition knows.
Know Your McCain just debuted with this Kossackian article that states McCain should be medicated because of his imprisonment by the North Vietnamese, and not elected to the presidency.
As clammy c indicates:
But even with that, it still goes deeper than the torture, the threats, the grudges, the sweeping comments and derogatory statements that offend multiple entire races. In a precarious global situation – one that the United States is already not looked favorably in, we see chest thumping about "100 years in Iraq", we hear of excluding Russia from the G8 (not to mention his apparent desire to restart the Cold War), we hear talk of there being more wars, we have a Presidential candidate whose view of diplomacy is to physically assault foreign diplomats, just to name a few of the more major alarming issues.
If we want to look at how he treats those on the homefront, he blows off reporters when he isn’t berating them individually (this pattern goes back to 1982) or what he thinks of his wife or rape victims, there are plenty of examples of what is clearly an angry and disturbed man with little tolerance.
These issues are serious ones, and as much as some people want to ignore them or call them "quirks" or "gaffes" or part of his personality, they are scary and are not befitting of someone who aspires to be President or Commander in Chief.
This excerpt doesn't have the connecting links...you should visit and read the entire article and check the updates at the website.
Bad enough we have had a president for eight years who is thought to be mentally disturbed by many psychologists. Let's not make the same mistake and elect yet another prize case.
But there is no excuse for what the McCain campaign is doing on the "putting America first" front. There is no way to balance it, or explain it other than as evidence of a severe character defect on the part of the candidate who allows it to be used. There is a straight up argument to be had in this election: Mcain has a vastly different view from Obama about foreign policy, taxation, health care, government action...you name it. He has lots of experience; it is always shocking to remember that this time four years ago, Barack Obama was still in the Illinois State Legislature. Apparently, though, McCain isn't confident that conservative policies and personal experience can win, given the ruinous state of the nation after eight years of Bush. So he has made a fateful decision: he has personally impugned Obama's patriotism and allows his surrogates to continue to do that. By doing so, he has allied himself with those who smeared him, his wife, his daughter Bridget, in 2000. Those tactics won George Bush a primary--and a nomination. But they proved a form of slow-acting spiritual poison, rotting the core of the Bush presidency. We'll see if the public decides to acquiesce in sleaze in 2008, and what sort of presidency--what sort of country--that will produce.
a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/14/92445/0849/738/567759">How can McCain fix the economy when he doesn't even know it's broken?
Barack is running a brilliant general election ad campaign so far. Positive, upbeat, visionary ads on a national level and powerful hard-hitting attack ads on the local evel.
Doesn't mean I can't be nervous about so many things falling into place for a potential coup.
Teacher
That makes 2 of us, especially for those who could see the writing on the wall from the start. Thankfully, O and his team are as smart as the clintons are cunning. Their biggest problem is not being proactive enough, which is why we sweat. We know the clintons are making calls trying to calculate the possibility of a coup d'etat.
Her minion are not going to accept anything but her having the nomination. They are still not going to support him no matter how many concessions O makes. This is is grounding my nerves into a powder. It practically makes me glad to be going back to work.
GreenLadyHere
A reference was made to this, I think , but this is OLD NEWS!!!!!
OLD NEWS! OLD NEWS! OLD NEWS! OLD NEWS! OLD NEWS!!!
Sorry. Hope this is not offensive to JJP.
GreenLadyHere
This comes under the title: Here's my excuse for my absence, teacher: :>) :>) As a teacher, I was the recipient of excuses for student absences; so when I'm away [from JJP] I feel the need to hand in my "excuse". :>) :>) So here it is:
Dear Mr. Jack and Ms. Jill: Please excuse my daughter, GreenLadyHere [I don't know where she got that name. I didn't put that on her birth certificate.] for the next 9 days 'cause she's got ta "Come See About Me" [the Supremes]. Thank you! Whew! Happy Deep Breaths!!! :>) :>) Her Mother.
Ya know, I guess I inherited SOME writing traits from my mom! :>) :>) :>)
I'll try to check in erry once in a while, but, seriously, this will be an intense visit since she is frail [just turned 92 Blessed years! ]
JJP Rules!! :>) I'll be thinking 'bout y'all!! :>) :>) :>) Much love!!
Teacher
Have a great trip, GLH. Try to get some rest, cause soon it will be back to the trenches. I went in yesterday, got my keys, arranged my room and deleted the email that has built up over the summer. The parking lot was full! So many people have come in early! We don't have to report back until the 19th. So far, we have counted 30 staff members who won't be returning this year. This is the largest # in my 7 years at the school & represents about a quarter of the staff. Did I mention that the principal is a case? I'm putting my transfer papers immediately.
Word to your mother.
GreenLadyHere
teacher, teacher: Thanks fa da luv!! Best wishes on that transfer!!! :>) :>)
caligirl
i love how you keep the humour going greenlady!
GreenLadyHere
caligirl: My pleasure!!! I really LOVE HUMOR! Got that from my daddy!! :>) :>) He was a nut!!! :>) :>)
when I teach, it is so on!! :>) :>)
C U L8R! :>) :>)
Texas_Girl_in_LA
Oh my!
AFL-CIO will soon drop it like it's hot tomorrow with their latest mailer.
I saw that this morning. I wonder why the black population is not growing faster.
caligirl
i have strong opinions on this. i think it's a multilayered issue (as most are):
-super high infant mortality rates in black communities (uninsured mothers!)
-high abortion rates
-we have started to mimic white people in that women are waiting til they're damn near old enough to be grandparenting before having their 1st child, which results in fewer overall births--no offense to anyone reading this who may have waited til 40 (or beyond) to have their first child.
i also think that we allowed ourselves to be socially shamed into thinking that large families were somehow disgraceful. i'm not advocating people going out and having more children than they can afford, but our birth rates have declined. i honestly can't remember the last time i saw a PREGNANT black woman in public.
APeach
"we have started to mimic white people in that women are waiting til they're damn near old enough to be grandparenting before having their 1st child, which results in fewer overall births--no offense to anyone reading this who may have waited til 40 (or beyond) to have their first child."
Hey, that's not fair to a lot of women who don't necessarily choose to wait, but are doing so for a suitable partner; or those of us choose to wait because that's what was best for us; or those of us who may have reproductive issues. I have friends who fall into all three categories; and I fall into one of them, too.
I know--I'm a little sensitive :) but it seems like we get blamed for everything.
I also don't think folks were "shamed" out of having large families; it's just that no one can afford them, unless you're a farming family.
caligirl
it's true that women hold off for many reasons. .. this issue is complex. i certainly didn't mean to lump women with reproductive challenges under that umbrella--they don't choose that condition.
no blaming going on here. just stating some of the reasons i think the black american population isn't higher.
GreenLadyHere
caligirl: I'm going to co-sign. Thinking the same thing!!! :>) :>)
jelana
That was the headline of my newspaper today in Ohio. They are trying to scare them to death and make them rethink voting for Obama!
According to my "resident editor" -Sister: :>) :>)
1. The Rethugs are coming out with an ad linking KK with Mr. Obama. 2. Rep. Mama K used an "old" statement/and picture that KK had taken with Mr. Obama in her campaign stuff! 3. KK had been "tethered" since he was ordered to jail. BUT another judge -TOWNSEND - attempted to remove it and the restrictions on his travel, which would have allowed him to attend the DNC Convention.
That judge, she said, is a BLACK REPUG!!
However, the Attorney General sided with the prosecutors and the tether is back on again!!! Whew!!
4. She also said that Blacks and supportive non-Black citizens are calling for Mr. Obama to make a statement bout KK. Hmmm????? Not sure.
For anyone who follows tennis, this is huge. Blake has always genuflected at the altar of Roger Federer. Always. He's had the talent and the game to beat Roger, but never the mindset. That he would get over himself and beat Roger in straight sets at the Olympics is simply grand.
caligirl
that's too bad. something's going on with roger. no genuflection required because federer is the better athlete in this case. blake is sloppy. in this case, the fact that he's black doesn't necessarily translate into better athleticism.
GreenLadyHere
I do! I do! YAAAAAAAA!!!! Thanks for this info. I'll see it later!!!
isonprize
Love it! Obama's new ad will play in AK, CO, FL, IA, MI, MO, MT, NM, NV, NH, NC, ND, OH, PA, VA, and WI. h/t This week with Barack Obama
I'm gonna have to trust Obama and his team and cross my fingers on this one because I don't trust Billary as far as I can throw 'em. This election is a 'must win' game and I hope that this is the right move. Clinton Likely to be Placed in Nomination
Charlie Rangel feels "snubbed" by Obama because he doesn't get to speak at the convention. He feels he should speak to signify "unity." I thought that's what Bill and Hillary were there for?
angee
He wants to save his behind in Harlem. To hell with unity he is looking at his legacy with blacks and he needs to show a happy face for Obama.
rikyrah
Pardon my french, but..
WHY THE FUCK WOULD OBAMA LET CHARLIE RANGEL SPEAK?
HELL NO
ANYONE Black speaking at that convention should have been one that threw down with Obama - BACK WHEN.
HELL NO to any of HHH getting to utter ONE fucking word at that convention.
GreenLadyHere
rikyrah: "uDDer": Is that the PART of that COW that Rangel and his CBC buddies and Stephanie and Sheila and, and ,and -------DRANK at???? :>) :>)
Pardon my French 2. :>) :>) :>) :>)
GreenLadyHere
town: So that's how "old school politics is played!" Rangel just reminded us with his "quid pro quo" example. Let me get this straight: 1. I came out strong in support for billary. And I could manufacture all the reasons why I did. And I was able to show that I wasn't voting along racial lines. I'm such a good boy!! :>)
2. Then the tides turned, and I came to Sen Obama's rescue, and told billary to "LET IT GO!" Now I support Sen. Obama. [IMHO-NOT!]
3. Therefore, I deserve a spot on the DNC Convention's agenda!!
Exactly. But Black people are supposed to feel that the "uppity negro" isn't down with his own. This is supposed to help that meme along, don't you think?
gaiilonfong
The ReTHUGS at Politico have this headline..."Obama snubbs Rangel" the comment section is hillarious too.
Why should Obama put Rangel to speak at the convention?...he wasn't just a Hillpatine supporter, he was a reTHUGlican enabler, by making statments along with Tubbs-Jones that Obama was not ready to be Prez......I hope this sends a signal to the CBC that it is time for some NEW leadership, and that Rangel needs to be called-out for the way he behaved during the primary...I say good on Obama that Rangel is left out!
Oh please! Rangel sat by and did nothing, NOTHING when Billary unleashed their dog whistle attacks against Obama. Sure, he reeled her in in June but in reality her run was over way before that and he said nothing.
It's about LOYALTY, Mr. Rangel. You decided to be loyal to Billary and support them, and Obama decided to be loyal and reward those who had his back. THE END.
Dont worry the CBC, Tavis and all are all waiting (which is losely translated to hoping) for Sen. Obama to fail...Thats when they'll speak loud and proud...
GreenLadyHere
Smoothie: ". . . hoping for Sen Obama to fail. . ."
pinksun: Thank you for this info in print. My sister told me similar info. I'm waiting for additional stuff, but I will be away on Friday - for a WEEK! Please keep this info flowing if you have the time and interest. Thank you. :>) :>)
No, Mr. President of Georgia it is your challenge.I know you bought McCain's foreign policy advisor Randy Shuereman but even though McCain will sell out to foreign agents like a $5 crack whore the rest of us put American Interest first.
America should also be interested in Genocide. Yet not one Troop on the ground in Darfur.
America should also be interested in Dictators who run there oposition out of the country and send people fleeing by the hundreds to neighboring countries for sovreingty..Yet not one troop on the Ground in my In-laws country of Zimbabwe..
Id be happy with Mugabe gone. Sanctions dont seem to work for him. As for Sudan, find out who in the Gov. is funding and supporting the militia and arrest or detain them.
again, not a left stance i get that, but the grater good in these instances alone cant be denied. 2 African nations on the brink of exten
Get it right Georgia initiated this conflict and got spanked.Now Russia is going to far but Russia did not start this aggression.Now what I want to know since Mccain's campaign is run by foreign agents what promises were made to Georgia as far as what the US involvement would be?
Um, Georgia attacked separatists within their own borders after the separatists alledgedly attacked Georgian cities. Georgia didn't haul off and attack Russia; Russia invaded Georgia-the entire country, including naval bombardment!-over what amounts to an internal dispute.
Are you suggesting that the Russians are morally right for getting involved?
Town
If Germany up and attacked American citizens living in Germany don't you think the US would do something about it?
After reading more about this Georgia situation, I shrug my shoulders at Georgia and say "Punks jump up to get beat down."
But we wouldn't invade Germany; we'd deal with the problem where it was.
The Russian response is disproportionate; that's my point.
Town
We invaded Iraq...because somebody's brother's mother's cousin's best friend's sister's roommate told somebody that Saddam (not Iraq in general) had WMDs and was colluding with Osama...
We claimed we did it for democracy's sake but we sat around shrugging and scratching our dandruff when it came to Zimbabwe and Sudan.
I just can't condemn Russia for doing something we are still doing.
We invaded Iraq because someone either said that they were a threat to us, or lied and made them a threat to us. What you think depends on what side of the aisle you sit on. We did free the Iraqi people from life under Saddam (and again, what you think of their current situation depends on what side of the aisle you're on).
The Georgians pose no threat to Russia at all. And if the Russians are there to "liberate" the people in South Ossetia, it's a land grab at its most basic.
The two don't compare. We took action based on intelligence that was right/wrong/made up (to cover all three sides). The Russians took action just because.
Town
Iraq wasn't posing any threat to us, either. Yet we invaded them on faulty gossip. And we sit twiddling our thumbs while other peoples are being massacred.
I'm not feeling real sorry for Georgia right about now. They fired on a group of people in a disputed area that Russia considers their citizens. Russia did go overboard in defending who they considered to be their citizens, but the fact remains that Georgia started it. You can't pop the biggest dude in class and then cry when the dude smashes in your face.
South Ossetia is a territory of Georgia. Its independence from Georgia is not recognized by any entity on the planet, including the United Nations.
So, again, are the Russians morally right for getting involved in an internal dispute? Doesn't this whole thing smell like some of the past stunts of the old USSR?
Racist Rev. Meeks says - “We want the white money!” Another Chicago State Senator moron like Obama was. BTW, why don’t we hear more about the condemned and crumbling housing projects that Obama left behind? Because Rezko and Obama took the money and ‘ran-with-it’! Anyway, the Rev. Wright is having a brand new house (more like Mansion) built.
Anyone know what the property taxes are like…in and around the New Trier Township High School District? I’m sure that Obama and the Rev. Meeks are against "school choice" and/or voucher programs, but for high taxes in some areas, and get lots of support from Teachers Unions.
goldenstar
Hey, if you're gonna post here, at least try to use facts.
Obama has nothing to do with the state-structured system of property taxes funding the bulk of education. The Governor and the General Assembly take care of that. And, they do not have the courage nor the will to do it at the moment. If enough voters get moving, they would find some religion in no time.
Second, Obama has nothing to do with the crumbling public housing highrises. The first Mayor Daley contained this black population in these tall horror shows. The son is now tearing down his father's prisons to open the floodgates to developers. It's a City of Chicago scenario and the Daleys have controlled this mess for some 50 years now.
Third, I live in New Trier Township and yes, I know what the property taxes are like. Just last night, the rich with lakefront property showed up at a tax relief meeting. Their rates have been hiked to as much as 100+%. And, that's the property tax system at work.
Fourth, State Senator Rev. Meeks is all about funding public education. Has nothing to do with school vouchers. If New Trier gets $17,000/pupil and Chicago gets $10,000 per pupil, there will be vast differences in educational environments. As Meeks has stated, if New Trier had to exist on $10,000/pupil for the next 30 years, there would be about a $30M difference and they could not do what they have been able to do. He got that from the NT Supt. mouth. Even the educators know.
Sounds like you live there, and still don't know the facts...do you vote? Sheesh!
I'm not going to waste much of my time replying to you, since you look at the facts on Obama with a closed mind; however, read this - Grim proving ground for Obama's housing policy for starters.
"The candidate endorsed subsidies for private entrepreneurs to build low-income units. But, while he garnered support from developers, many projects in his former district have fallen into disrepair."
"Valerie Jarrett, a senior adviser to Obama's presidential campaign and a member of his finance committee. Jarrett is the chief executive of Habitat Co., which managed Grove Parc Plaza from 2001 until this winter and co-managed an even larger subsidized complex in Chicago that was seized by the federal government in 2006, after city inspectors found widespread problems."
"Allison Davis, a major fund-raiser for Obama's US Senate campaign and a former lead partner at Obama's former law firm. Davis, a developer, was involved in the creation of Grove Parc and has used government subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,500 units in Chicago, including a North Side building cited by city inspectors last year after chronic plumbing failures resulted in raw sewage spilling into several apartments."
"Antoin "Tony" Rezko, perhaps the most important fund-raiser for Obama's early political campaigns and a friend who helped the Obamas buy a home in 2005. Rezko's company used subsidies to rehabilitate more than 1,000 apartments, mostly in and around Obama's district, then refused to manage the units, leaving the buildings to decay to the point where many no longer were habitable."
Not even close. Here are a FEW of Obama’s friends, associates, family, and advisors:
* Rabidly anti-Israel Columbia University professor Rashid Khalidi. The Obamas were regular dinner guests at Khalidi’s Hyde Park home for years.
* Terrorist sympathizer Ali Abunimah, who runs the viciously anti-Israel web site Electronic Intifada.
* Unrepentant Weather Underground terrorists William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn.
* Reverend Jeremiah Wright. What more needs to be said?
* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Samantha Power — fired after calling Hillary Clinton a “monster.”
* Anti-Israel foreign policy adviser Robert Malley — fired when it was revealed he has been holding talks with Hamas.
* Hatem El-Hady, former official of the Hamas-linked charity Kindhearts, closed by the Justice Department. El-Hady’s web page—with Michelle Obama listed as an opt-in “friend”—suddenly vanished from the Obama campaign site with no explanation, after being exposed by LGF and others.
* Tony Rezko — a Chicago fixer currently in a whole lot of legal trouble.
* Zigniew Brzezinski, anti-Israel foreign policy advisor who cut his teeth in the Carter administration.
* Cornel West – a racist who is anti-America and anti-Israel.
* Louis Farrakhan - Endorses Obama…loved by Rev. Wright, and is a racist, homophobic, and anti-Semitic.
* Cynthia K. Miller - a member of the Nation of Islam…former Treasurer of Obama’s U.S. Senate campaign.
* Jennifer Mason - a member of the Nation of Islam…is Obama’s Director of Constituent Services in his U.S. Senate office and is also in charge of selecting Obama’s Senate interns.
* Shakir Muhammad - a member of the Nation of Islam…held important roles in Obama’s state senate campaign.
* Edward Said – a “prominent PLO/Arafat advisor”…“overwhelmingly sympathetic to Islam, and helpful to its causes”…Obama associate.
* Carl Davidson – anti-America…former vice-president of SDS, with friends like Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda. Webmaster for “Progressives for Obama.”
* Frank Marshall Davis – member of the Communist Party of the United States, and Obama’s childhood mentor.
* Raila Odinga - Obama’s cousin, from the same Kenyan tribe that Obama is. “Odinga supporters are the people that are burning christians alive, trapped inside churches … most of Odinga’s fanatical followers are radical Islamists who have pushed for Islamic Sharia Law.”
* Abongo “Roy” Obama – a Kenyan Luo activist and a militant Muslim…Obama’s half-brother… Obama admits that Abongo felt that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.”
Monie
Phil Gramm- "U.S. is a nation of whiners"- lobbyist for Swiss Bank UBS which is at the center of the housing crisis. Also sponsored the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act of 1999 which deregulated the banking industry, which some analyst say may have given way to the mortgage crisis.
Carly Fiorina- McCain econonic advisor who was forced out of Hewlett Packard in 2005 who ran the company down through questionable acquistions and decisions and who lost the support of board. Thousands of jobs were lost due to her actions.
Deal Hudson-McCain National Steering Committee for Catholics--was forced to resign as the chair of the Republican National Commitee in 2004 after allegations that he solicited an improper sexual encounter with an 18-year-old woman in one of his classes at Fordham University
John Hagee-pastor of Cornerstone Church--McCain actively sought his endorsement than rejected it--referred to the Roman Catholic Church as "the great whore" and called it a "false cult system."
Rod Parsley--pastor of World Harvest Church--McCain actively sought his endorsement than rejected it--Parsley stated Islam is a conspiracy of spiritual evil. Parsley also said, "America was founded with the intention of seeing this false religion destroyed and I believe September 11, 2001 was a generational call to arms that we can no longer ignore." McCain called Parsley "one of the truly great leaders in America."
Ralph Reed--fundraiser for John McCain who is a longtime friend and business partner of disgraced and imprisoned lobbyist Jack Abramoff. Reed lost a 2006 campaign for Lt. governor in Georgia due to his ahdy relationship with Jack Abramoff inclusing a Senate probe that discoverd $4 million in payments Reed received to run a bogus anti-casino campaign.
Harry Seargeant--McCain bundler who solicited money though his business partner Mustafa Abu Nab'a, a dual citizen of Jordan and the Dominican Republican. McCain was forced to return ove $50,000 after questionable donations appeared from unlikely donors. Harry Seargant's oil company has been awarded contracts of about a billion dollars in Iraq, and was found to be overcharging the U.S. military.
Now for a short list of the many, many lobbyist ties (they are quite many): Charlie Black--powerful washington lobbyist, now a McCain advisor,. Black was chirmanof BKSH & Associates, who has strong ties to Ahmad Chalabi, the deceptive Iraqi exile who campaigned false information leading up to invasion of Iraq, even the CIA deemed Chalabi as untrustworthy and the White House has even distanced from Chalabi. Black most recently suggested that a terror attack on the U.S. would benefit McCain in the general election.
Tom Loeffler--was a National Finance Committee Co-Charman for McCain--resigned after revelations he lobbies for Saudi Arabia and arranged meetings for McCain with Prince Turki
Doug Davenport--was forced to resign as one of McCain's regional campaign mangers after he lobbied tor Myanmar's military junta.
Doug Goodyear--MCain tapped him to bea Republican Convention chief but had to step down after his firm was paid to represent Burma's military junta
Monie
I left off Randy Scheuenman, who is a top foreign policy advisor to John McCain--He was a lobbyist on behalf of the former Soviet republic of Georgia. He recently left his firm for McCain's campaign but he and his partner have brought in more than $800,000 in lobbyist money on behalf of Georgia. Scheueman lobbied McCain's office on 4 bills and reolutions regarding Georgia, with McCain as co-sponsor or supporter of all of them. Scheueneman was also on the board of the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). PNAC is the neoconservative think tank which included such members as William Kristol, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle, John Bolton, Richard Armitagem and I. "Scooter" Libby amonst others---some of the key players of the Bush Administration and Iraq War. Something very important to note : PNAC wrote a letter to President Bill CLinton in 1998 calling for a U.S. campaign to oust Saddam Hussein---and with a "selected" George W. Bush presidency, they got their wish.
Speaking to reporters about the situation in Georgia, Sen. John McCain denounced the aggressive posture of Russia by claiming that:"in the 21st century nations don't invade other nations."
-I think somebody better tell McCain about Iraq, quick!
On the same site that GreenLady got her article above from is another one called "Uncle Toms for McCain?" I won't link to it, but I found the opening paragraph funny:
Although some today view Black Republicans as Uncle Toms attempting to derail "a brother's" presidential bid in this historic election, the record to date shows that Barack Obama's downfall, if he loses, in November won't come from black Republicans. Remember, there are only five of us.
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caligirl
i thought of betty carter when i saw that photo of shirley horn too!!!
LOVE betty carter!!! had to stop listening to her for a while because i had such a visceral reaction to her voice. betty carter is, hands-down, THE jazz vocalist of the 20th century. for me, anyway.
The arrogant/elitist code is directed squarely at poor working class whites. . .
TRANSLATION: you may be poor, you may be struggling, and the jobs may have left your town; however, you have something more valuable than that - YOUR WHITENESS!!
Actually, we knew all along what billary meant - so did her "base!" :>)
Town
I think he needs to include the Democrats in with the GOP as far as using racial codes are concerned. It's not just the GOP, it's those white people who feel entitled to a certain position or station in life because they are white, and no matter how many Harvards, Princetons and Columbias you go to, no matter how many law degrees and best selling books you write, no matter how many rules you play by, if you're not white, you need to sit in the back of the bus.
IMO this election is not only important to black people, but to all non-whites and non-Christians, too because if the drive to shut down Obama because of his race and rumored religion succeeds, Latinos, Asians, non-Christians etc. need to just go to the back of the bus right along with black folks.
rikyrah
Town you speak so much truth, it's scary. And, isn't that how it's always been?
Black folk step out front, take all the bruises..
and all the rest of the folks scurry up as soon as the hard lifting is over to yell ' "What about me?"
IMO this election is not only important to black people, but to all non-whites and non-Christians, too because if the drive to shut down Obama because of his race and rumored religion succeeds, Latinos, Asians, non-Christians etc. need to just go to the back of the bus right along with black folks.
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