Comments on: Sunday Open Thread

By: Teacher

Teacher — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:06:10 +0000

Well, there appears to be some dispute about this. No surprise there. It seems like Mcsame is about 5-8 & O is about 6-1.5, except for the other night when McSame was also 6 ft.

Here is a photo of the crypster with Guliani (5-11) & Romney (6-3)
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0czx9jr0eUf...

Here is a photo of him with Bush, 5-11
http://mccainandbush.com/wp-content/uploads/apr...

By: D.

D. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:50:47 +0000

(it's not funny, but……) LOL.

I'm not sure. McCain wouldn't get attacked like Obama probably would on Dobson's show. It'd probably be a NAACP redux-guarded, grudging respect-and no one would really listen.

By: RonnieB

RonnieB — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:40:08 +0000

At New Birth, McCain would be accorded every courtesy befitting a statesman. At Focus on the Family–in very white Colorado Springs–Obama would be regarded as a savage, radical, second coming of Huey Newton who prays on wholesome White women.

By: D.

D. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:51:13 +0000

Interesting....I suggested New Birth above.

Better idea: send McCain to New Birth, and put Obama on Focus on the Family.

That would be interesting.

By: RonnieB

RonnieB — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:36:01 +0000

I'm gonna give Rick Warren his props for his body of work. He does what most White pastors won't do, and he goes where most won't go. The Saddleback forum was a little one-sided (toward McCain) probably because more White Christians gravitate toward the leadership of Warren than they would toward T.D. Jakes or Eddie Long. Hold the same forum at New Birth or the Potter's House, and the appearance of favor would probably be the opposite. Nonetheless, Barack was his usual thoughtful, engaging, conversational self.

By: taritac

taritac — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:29:57 +0000

Raising taxes on corporations (2/3 of which paid NO taxes last year) and people making $250K will actually help close the deficit Bush has been running up for the last 8 years. Poor people spend the money they have, they can't hoard it or invest in overseas companies like rich people and corporations do, thereby putting more money in the economy. Middle and lower income people will actually see a tax BREAK under Obama.

See here.

By: s

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:22:05 +0000

"Doing well" and 'lackluster' in my mind are comparable. "Well" is not great, 'lackluster' is not great.

Whatever.

McCain won the night. That's the consensus opinion. Deal with it.

By: D.

D. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:21:05 +0000

As opposed to the rookie of the year candidate who's been sitting on the sidelines for the majority of the decade?

Course, if we're going to look at the candidates by the actions of their party....didn't the dhimmicrats say they were going to lower fuel price and break foreign dependence on energy when they took control of Congress in 2006? And haven't they gone up since then?

How does that motivate me to trust a dhimmicrat with the country in a time of war?

By: Admiral_Komack

Admiral_Komack — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:05:26 +0000

From reading some of the posts about the Warrenlopaloosa, I'm glad I missed it.

By: s

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:05:15 +0000

Look, the accusation is that McCain cheated, that he was too well prepared, he did too well, so he must have heard Obama's interview or had the questions in advance.

There is no way to prove this charge. In his limo, in the ready room, I do not believe that McCain cheated.

It is looking increasingly like a desperate move to distract the public from Obama's lackluster performance.

His 'nuance' is not playing as well as anticipated and stands in stark contrast to McCain's strong, decisive answers.

But if you want to persist with this meme by all means go ahead, but I feel it simply looks immature and desperate.

By: Town

Town — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:55:47 +0000

Ok, the GOP had SIX years in which to get things done. Did they? No. They sat on their asses doing nothing except making people feel they needed to wear flag pins and put flag magnets on their car doors. So why should the veteran who's been cruising on the job for six+ years be rewarded with a promotion, instead of the new guy who's energetic and shows promise?

By: Town

Town — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:52:23 +0000

“It is increasingly being seen as a way to distract the public from Obama's lackluster performance.”

But you just said a few posts ago that Obama did well during the forum. So which is it? He did well or he was 'lackluster?” You're flip flopping worse than McCain. Regardless of if Obama was lackluster or not, McCain was not in the “Cone of Silence” (as confirmed by both Rick Davis and Rick Warren) and had every opportunity to find out what the questions were beforehand.

By: D.

D. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:44:22 +0000

Point of contention: The GOP had up until they lost control of Congress to fix the country. After that, all bets were off.

I would answer yes to that question.

By: Miranda

Miranda — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:37:53 +0000

Its truly pathetic that you sincerely want to believe that McCain was late for a nationally televised forum because of…of what? traffic? A bad accident blocked up the streets? Whatever. The man was late to a nationally televised forum. The “coin toss” to see who would go first…well, if only one person is there at 8pm, I guess its HE who will go first. But in your delusional psychosis, you have created a cocoon which ignores the little fact that McCain WAS NOT IN THE CONE OF SILENCE FROM 8pm until at least 8:30pm. Now you can continue to deny that truth, because if you don't it might just cause something to pop off, but everybody's not on those drugs, so stop the perpetrating.

By: Miranda

Miranda — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:29:23 +0000

So you're saying the part about McCain being in his limo part of the time that Obama was on stage, is not true? Are you saying he was in the “cone of silence” the entire time that Obama was on stage with Rick Warren?? Is that what you're saying? That everyone who said that McCain was actually in a limo for the first half hour of Obama's segment are lying? Including his campaign manager?

By: s

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:28:38 +0000

Raising taxes in a time of economic uncertainty is a recipe for disaster. Obama's own advisors have now backtracked somewhat on taxes.

Raising taxes is a losing issue.

By: taritac

taritac — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:26:21 +0000

I thought Obama was 6'1″ and McCain was 5'9″.

By: Lilytiger

Lilytiger — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:26:11 +0000

At least this was mile about Wikipedia to quote from.

What an unimaginative and fraudulent man.

By: taritac

taritac — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:24:51 +0000

Actually, the only proof necessary is knowing that McCain is a Republican with Rovian operators on his team. Cheating, lying, stealing are their modus operandi. I wouldn't put it past them one bit.

By: s

Mon, 18 Aug 2008 16:24:47 +0000

You are doing Obama a grave disservice by promoting this meme. It is increasingly being seen as a way to distract the public from Obama's lackluster performance.