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		<title>By: ruthdfw</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164098</link>
		<dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my only concern is that this will set them up for unnecesary criticism about giving the oppt to someone else in the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only concern is that this will set them up for unnecesary criticism about giving the oppt to someone else in the party.</p>
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		<title>By: 99 Percent Sure</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164102</link>
		<dc:creator>99 Percent Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, you hit the nail on the head, &lt;b&gt;CraigHickman&lt;/b&gt;.  I initially didn&#039;t support Obama because I saw no real differences in him and the Clintons; I saw both of them as corporate candidates.  Obama has incorporated more populist policies in his campaign, and he has rejected public campaign financing, but he still has corporate bundlers. I understand that, to some extent, they are a necessary evil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Though he slung his schlong outside of marriage, I like Edwards because he rabidly attacked corporatism; IMO, he had a great populist message.  I still like his poverty eradication plan as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, you hit the nail on the head, <b>CraigHickman</b>.  I initially didn&#39;t support Obama because I saw no real differences in him and the Clintons; I saw both of them as corporate candidates.  Obama has incorporated more populist policies in his campaign, and he has rejected public campaign financing, but he still has corporate bundlers. I understand that, to some extent, they are a necessary evil.</p>
<p>Though he slung his schlong outside of marriage, I like Edwards because he rabidly attacked corporatism; IMO, he had a great populist message.  I still like his poverty eradication plan as well.</p>
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		<title>By: 99 Percent Sure</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164097</link>
		<dc:creator>99 Percent Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the start, Michelle Obama has been prominent on the stump for her husband.  She appeared before thousands at UCLA along with O!, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg and Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger, a couple of days before Super Tuesday.  In fact, her speech was so persuasive that I became an Obama supporter at that moment, voting for him rather than Edwards on Super Tuesday, since Edwards had already suspended his campaign. The Clintons were never an option, nor were any of the other primary candidates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mrs. Obama became a target for the neo-cons &lt;em&gt;et al.&lt;/em&gt; because she was so out front from the start of the campaign. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a different time and a different campaign like no other, so it is perfectly reasonable that she would be a speaker at the 2008 DNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the start, Michelle Obama has been prominent on the stump for her husband.  She appeared before thousands at UCLA along with O!, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg and Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger, a couple of days before Super Tuesday.  In fact, her speech was so persuasive that I became an Obama supporter at that moment, voting for him rather than Edwards on Super Tuesday, since Edwards had already suspended his campaign. The Clintons were never an option, nor were any of the other primary candidates.</p>
<p>Mrs. Obama became a target for the neo-cons <em>et al.</em> because she was so out front from the start of the campaign. </p>
<p>This is a different time and a different campaign like no other, so it is perfectly reasonable that she would be a speaker at the 2008 DNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164095</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to many in these parts, he, in fact, did endorse Hillary before talking about himself and then stating his support for Barack almost like an afterthought.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn&#039;t see it that way when it happened, but now I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to many in these parts, he, in fact, did endorse Hillary before talking about himself and then stating his support for Barack almost like an afterthought.</p>
<p>I didn&#39;t see it that way when it happened, but now I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! It looks like you&#039;ve nailed it. Except, if he was part of the Clinton machine, he would have endorsed her instead of O. If she literally had half of the popular vote (18 million) and was REALLY winning, why wouldn&#039;t he give her further validation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES! It looks like you&#39;ve nailed it. Except, if he was part of the Clinton machine, he would have endorsed her instead of O. If she literally had half of the popular vote (18 million) and was REALLY winning, why wouldn&#39;t he give her further validation?</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think like I do.</description>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164100</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if he chooses the Mormon Romney as his running mate, there will be some merging, if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if he chooses the Mormon Romney as his running mate, there will be some merging, if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164099</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He wasn’t a very good running mate for John Kerry, and as a presidential candidate, he always struck me as being about 2 inches deep.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2 inches, huh?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go Gail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He wasn’t a very good running mate for John Kerry, and as a presidential candidate, he always struck me as being about 2 inches deep.</i></p>
<p>2 inches, huh?</p>
<p>Go Gail.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think he&#039;s right of Bill Clinton, quite frankly. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But he&#039;s has more a grasp of the human condition than Hill Billy Jeff ever will.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That&#039;s why folks think, erroneously, that he&#039;s a left winger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think he&#39;s right of Bill Clinton, quite frankly. </p>
<p>But he&#39;s has more a grasp of the human condition than Hill Billy Jeff ever will.</p>
<p>That&#39;s why folks think, erroneously, that he&#39;s a left winger.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164103</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EE knows she married an egomaniac. How can she not know who her husband of all those years is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Same way Hillary knows Bill is a predator.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In both cases, the women accept who their husbands are and clearly know what&#039;s up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No shame in that game.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Politically, however, they deceived folks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I don&#039;t pity them one bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EE knows she married an egomaniac. How can she not know who her husband of all those years is.</p>
<p>Same way Hillary knows Bill is a predator.</p>
<p>In both cases, the women accept who their husbands are and clearly know what&#39;s up.</p>
<p>No shame in that game.</p>
<p>Politically, however, they deceived folks.</p>
<p>I don&#39;t pity them one bit.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-164104</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Say it again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it again.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: ruthdfw</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-40896</link>
		<dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my only concern is that this will set them up for unnecesary criticism about giving the oppt to someone else in the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my only concern is that this will set them up for unnecesary criticism about giving the oppt to someone else in the party.</p>
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		<title>By: 99 Percent Sure</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-41108</link>
		<dc:creator>99 Percent Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, you hit the nail on the head, &lt;b&gt;CraigHickman&lt;/b&gt;.  I initially didn&#039;t support Obama because I saw no real differences in him and the Clintons; I saw both of them as corporate candidates.  Obama has incorporated more populist policies in his campaign, and he has rejected public campaign financing, but he still has corporate bundlers. I understand that, to some extent, they are a necessary evil.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Though he slung his schlong outside of marriage, I like Edwards because he rabidly attacked corporatism; IMO, he had a great populist message.  I still like his poverty eradication plan as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, you hit the nail on the head, <b>CraigHickman</b>.  I initially didn&#39;t support Obama because I saw no real differences in him and the Clintons; I saw both of them as corporate candidates.  Obama has incorporated more populist policies in his campaign, and he has rejected public campaign financing, but he still has corporate bundlers. I understand that, to some extent, they are a necessary evil.</p>
<p>Though he slung his schlong outside of marriage, I like Edwards because he rabidly attacked corporatism; IMO, he had a great populist message.  I still like his poverty eradication plan as well.</p>
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		<title>By: 99 Percent Sure</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-40895</link>
		<dc:creator>99 Percent Sure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the start, Michelle Obama has been prominent on the stump for her husband.  She appeared before thousands at UCLA along with O!, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg and Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger, a couple of days before Super Tuesday.  In fact, her speech was so persuasive that I became an Obama supporter at that moment, voting for him rather than Edwards on Super Tuesday, since Edwards had already suspended his campaign. The Clintons were never an option, nor were any of the other primary candidates.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mrs. Obama became a target for the neo-cons &lt;em&gt;et al.&lt;/em&gt; because she was so out front from the start of the campaign. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is a different time and a different campaign like no other, so it is perfectly reasonable that she would be a speaker at the 2008 DNC Convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the start, Michelle Obama has been prominent on the stump for her husband.  She appeared before thousands at UCLA along with O!, Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg and Maria Shriver Schwarzenegger, a couple of days before Super Tuesday.  In fact, her speech was so persuasive that I became an Obama supporter at that moment, voting for him rather than Edwards on Super Tuesday, since Edwards had already suspended his campaign. The Clintons were never an option, nor were any of the other primary candidates.</p>
<p>Mrs. Obama became a target for the neo-cons <em>et al.</em> because she was so out front from the start of the campaign. </p>
<p>This is a different time and a different campaign like no other, so it is perfectly reasonable that she would be a speaker at the 2008 DNC Convention.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-40871</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to many in these parts, he, in fact, did endorse Hillary before talking about himself and then stating his support for Barack almost like an afterthought.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn&#039;t see it that way when it happened, but now I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to many in these parts, he, in fact, did endorse Hillary before talking about himself and then stating his support for Barack almost like an afterthought.</p>
<p>I didn&#39;t see it that way when it happened, but now I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YES! It looks like you&#039;ve nailed it. Except, if he was part of the Clinton machine, he would have endorsed her instead of O. If she literally had half of the popular vote (18 million) and was REALLY winning, why wouldn&#039;t he give her further validation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YES! It looks like you&#39;ve nailed it. Except, if he was part of the Clinton machine, he would have endorsed her instead of O. If she literally had half of the popular vote (18 million) and was REALLY winning, why wouldn&#39;t he give her further validation?</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/sunday-open-thread-12/comment-page-7/#comment-40872</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You think like I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You think like I do.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So if he chooses the Mormon Romney as his running mate, there will be some merging, if you will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if he chooses the Mormon Romney as his running mate, there will be some merging, if you will.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;He wasn’t a very good running mate for John Kerry, and as a presidential candidate, he always struck me as being about 2 inches deep.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;2 inches, huh?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Go Gail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>He wasn’t a very good running mate for John Kerry, and as a presidential candidate, he always struck me as being about 2 inches deep.</i></p>
<p>2 inches, huh?</p>
<p>Go Gail.</p>
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