Comments on: Obama/Hagel? Obama/Kerry? Obama/Reed? Obama/Clark??? http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:13:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-2/#comment-334168 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:34:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334168 Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of "slam dunk" fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? "CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency". Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of “slam dunk” fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? “CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency”.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-2/#comment-334166 D. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:18:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334166 No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target. No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-2/#comment-334167 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:51:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334167 Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST. Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-2/#comment-334165 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:45:17 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334165 You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who - Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil - - OIL. You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who – Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil – - OIL.

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-334162 mitch Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:39:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334162 Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom. Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-334164 D. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:28:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334164 Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.<br><br>Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.<br><br>Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril. Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.

Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.

Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-334163 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:08:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-334163 Obama may not be as "experienced" as some, but he is certainly not weak. Why did the Iraqi Prime minister, Bush & McCain RUN to his position on withdrawing troops? Was he "weak" when he warned us of the disastrous results of a hasty invasion of a country? With Clark, he won't have a "steady hand". He'll have someone of like mind and judgement about diplomacy, engagement and common sense.<br><br>P.S. Was he a Clinton surrogate when he made the accurate comments about John McCain's experience BEFORE THEY WERE DISTORTED McCain's DC Media freaks? He did not back down or back track. That is what a VP is supposed to do - take the incoming and keep standing. How many other Obama surrogates have done that this season? Obama may not be as “experienced” as some, but he is certainly not weak. Why did the Iraqi Prime minister, Bush & McCain RUN to his position on withdrawing troops? Was he “weak” when he warned us of the disastrous results of a hasty invasion of a country? With Clark, he won't have a “steady hand”. He'll have someone of like mind and judgement about diplomacy, engagement and common sense.

P.S. Was he a Clinton surrogate when he made the accurate comments about John McCain's experience BEFORE THEY WERE DISTORTED McCain's DC Media freaks? He did not back down or back track. That is what a VP is supposed to do – take the incoming and keep standing. How many other Obama surrogates have done that this season?

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160511 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:34:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160511 Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of "slam dunk" fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? "CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency". Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of “slam dunk” fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? “CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency”.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160509 D. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 01:18:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160509 No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target. No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160510 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:51:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160510 Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST. Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160508 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:45:17 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160508 You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who - Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil - - OIL. You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who – Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil – - OIL.

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160505 mitch Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:39:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160505 Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom. Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160507 D. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:28:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160507 Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.<br><br>Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.<br><br>Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril. Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.

Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.

Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-160506 Terri Wed, 13 Aug 2008 00:08:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-160506 Obama may not be as "experienced" as some, but he is certainly not weak. Why did the Iraqi Prime minister, Bush & McCain RUN to his position on withdrawing troops? Was he "weak" when he warned us of the disastrous results of a hasty invasion of a country? With Clark, he won't have a "steady hand". He'll have someone of like mind and judgement about diplomacy, engagement and common sense.<br><br>P.S. Was he a Clinton surrogate when he made the accurate comments about John McCain's experience BEFORE THEY WERE DISTORTED McCain's DC Media freaks? He did not back down or back track. That is what a VP is supposed to do - take the incoming and keep standing. How many other Obama surrogates have done that this season? Obama may not be as “experienced” as some, but he is certainly not weak. Why did the Iraqi Prime minister, Bush & McCain RUN to his position on withdrawing troops? Was he “weak” when he warned us of the disastrous results of a hasty invasion of a country? With Clark, he won't have a “steady hand”. He'll have someone of like mind and judgement about diplomacy, engagement and common sense.

P.S. Was he a Clinton surrogate when he made the accurate comments about John McCain's experience BEFORE THEY WERE DISTORTED McCain's DC Media freaks? He did not back down or back track. That is what a VP is supposed to do – take the incoming and keep standing. How many other Obama surrogates have done that this season?

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31062 Terri Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:34:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31062 Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of "slam dunk" fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? "CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency". Yes, that was sad. Three (3) Chinese nationals lost their lives, and President Clinton issued apologies to the Chinese premier for that incident. General Clark relied upon the intellence gathering of the CIA, who told the command that the Chinese were transmitting Yugoslav coordinates against NATO forces. The CIA Director? George Tenet. He of “slam dunk” fame of Iraq intelligence, remember? “CIA director George Tenet said the operation which led to the bombing of the Chinese embassy was the only one organized and directed by his agency”.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31059 D. Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:18:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31059 No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target. No, really: look up the bombing of the Chinese embassy during the Bosnian conflict. Can't blame the right wing for that. Say what you will about Iraq, but we have-for the most part-put our bombs on the right target.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31061 Terri Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:51:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31061 Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST. Oh, by the way, Clinton LOST.

]]> By: Terri http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31058 Terri Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:45:17 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31058 You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who - Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil - - OIL. You wish. Clark brings instant credibility. Errant bombings, reported by who – Wing Nut Daily? How about the errant bombings going on for 5+ years in Iraq? The US engaged in Kosovo to stop the ethnic cleansing, and Clark remains a hero to this day. The US engaged in Iraq for the root of all evil – - OIL.

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31023 mitch Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:39:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31023 Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom. Oh this ship is sinking fast. If he selects an unknown White male as VP bayh, kaine, or any of the folks mentioned the boat is sunk. Obama and is handlers better come into the REAL WORLD and realize they better select a WHITE candidate that is known by the general public. This race is too tight for him to think he can carry it on his own. The numbers are going to break the same as they have over the past eight years. Nothing new is going to change this election. We just need to solidfy the base and keep what we have. And, by bringing in another new face to add to the uncertainity about a Black president equates to doom.

]]> By: D. http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/obamahagel-obamakerry-obamareed-obamaclark/comment-page-1/#comment-31056 D. Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:28:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1812#comment-31056 Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.<br><br>Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.<br><br>Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril. Obama's plan to withdraw from Iraq was not rooted in strategy. And let's not forget that even he is now saying that any withdrawal must be based on conditions on the ground.

Clark was a referee. He didn't do that great of a job in Bosnia. There were more errant bombings under his watch there then there have been in Iraq, reportedly.

Clark sold his uniform to the highest bidder. Clinton won. Obama brings him on at his own peril.

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