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18 Aug 2008 Author: Cheryl Contee (Jill Tubman)

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taritac
More importantly, Obama needs to stop apologizing and responding every time someone says a controversial TRUTH like Wes Clark or Samantha Power.
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POW: I remember McCain telling the cross story in 1971
posted at 5:25 pm on August 18, 2008 by Allahpundit
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Hopefully the left will challenge this. Anything that keeps McCain’s heroism front and center, without a shred of evidence from any eyewitness that he’s lying, is tantamount to an in-kind campaign contribution. More, please.
I called Orson Swindle, a fellow POW who is campaigning for McCain, to ask him about it.
“I recall John telling that story when we first got together in 1971, when were talking about every conceivable thing that had ever happened to us when we were in prison” Swindle told me a few minutes ago. “Most of us had been kept apart or in small groups. Then, in 1970, they moved us into the big cell. And when we all got to see each other and talk to each other directly, instead of tapping through walls, we had 24 hours a day, seven days a week to talk to each other, and we shared stories. I vaguely recall that story being told, among other stories.”
“I remember it from prison,” Swindle continued. “There were several stories similar to that in which guards — a very few, I might add — showed compassion to the prisoners. It was rare, and I never met one, but some of the guys did.”
I’ll make you follow the link for Swindle’s assessment of the naysayers. He’s right too about the guards and their associates occasionally showing compassion; Bob Owens googled around to see if he could corroborate McCain’s story and stumbled upon a similar incident involving former POW (and GOP senator) Jeremiah Denton. The dumbest part of all of this — aside from the fact that the nutroots is pushing it into the mainstream media, where it’ll redound to McCain’s advantage and dirty St. Barack’s hands by association — is that if he was going to make up stories to prove his devotion while in prison, surely he could do better than this. I remember some lefty (at TNR, I think) noting quite rightly after McCain’s Christmas ad came out that the specifics of it really are more a testament to his captor’s faith and humanity than to McCain’s. If Maverick wanted to dazzle believers with evidence of his own grace under pressure, he’s got material to work with. But then, this is a guy whose son was stationed in Iraq and yet who almost never mentions that fact on the trail even though it gives him moral cover in his push for a sustained troop presence. Anyway, rock on, netroots.
Val
I translated that comment the same bison1. above my pay grade means – God's role.
TruthSeeker
Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…
TruthSeeker
More McCain lies…..
McCain Lied or Was Confused: You Make the Call
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/a-siegel/mccain-l…
McCain Voted For Earmark He Rails Against In Ad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/mccain…
His wife lies too… about stealing drugs, cookie recipes, receipts and being an only child…a wide cross-section
Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…
McCain says rich people are not necessarily happy, apparently they're not necessarily honest either.
Miranda
I just read this story and was about to post it. This is a shame.
TruthSeeker
Even the Repubs don't trust him….
Sorry Fellow Kossaks, But It Was Freepers Who First Spotted McCain's Plagiarism
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/18/769…
TruthSeeker
Isn't it?…
What reason could Cindy have for excluding her sister?
TruthSeeker
Bingo!
Lilytiger
I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy had tried to pass herself off as John's only wife, either.
taritac
How ugly. It's a shame that people can treat their own family members like this. I can understand Cindy not feeling “sisterly” toward her half-sister, but not even to acknowledge she exists? Wrong. Familial relationships are complicated, certainly, but this can only add to bad blood.
And what a winner Cindy's dad was– leaving his first wife for the new model (hmmm, sounds familiar), not raising his first child, barely supporting her, then leaing nearly his entire fortune to Cindy. No wonder Cindy doesn't have a moral compass (or at least one that doesn't reliably point North).
GreenLadyHere
TruthSeeker: I'm going with BOF-O-DEM!! LIED and C-O-N-F-U-S-E-D!!!!
Whew!! Angrily shakin' Deep Breaths!!! :>) :>) :>)
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/ ChaunceyDevega
Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ, We Didn't Get the Memo!
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/200…
A story that didn't get enough traction. Where is black leadership and the black blogosphere when Obama is labeled the anti-Christ? Asleep at the wheel?
TruthSeeker
More McCain lies…..
McCain Lied or Was Confused: You Make the Call
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/a-siegel/mccain-l…
McCain Voted For Earmark He Rails Against In Ad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/mccain…
His wife lies too… about stealing drugs, cookie recipes, receipts and being an only child…a wide cross-section
Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…
McCain says rich people are not necessarily happy, apparently they're not necessarily honest either.
Miranda
I just read this story and was about to post it. This is a shame.
TruthSeeker
Even the Repubs don't trust him….
Sorry Fellow Kossaks, But It Was Freepers Who First Spotted McCain's Plagiarism
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/18/769…
TruthSeeker
Isn't it?…
What reason could Cindy have for excluding her sister?
TruthSeeker
Bingo!
Lilytiger
I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy had tried to pass herself off as John's only wife, either.
taritac
How ugly. It's a shame that people can treat their own family members like this. I can understand Cindy not feeling “sisterly” toward her half-sister, but not even to acknowledge she exists? Wrong. Familial relationships are complicated, certainly, but this can only add to bad blood.
And what a winner Cindy's dad was– leaving his first wife for the new model (hmmm, sounds familiar), not raising his first child, barely supporting her, then leaing nearly his entire fortune to Cindy. No wonder Cindy doesn't have a moral compass (or at least one that doesn't reliably point North).
GreenLadyHere
TruthSeeker: I'm going with BOF-O-DEM!! LIED and C-O-N-F-U-S-E-D!!!!
Whew!! Angrily shakin' Deep Breaths!!! :>) :>) :>)
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/ ChaunceyDevega
Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ, We Didn't Get the Memo!
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/200…
A story that didn't get enough traction. Where is black leadership and the black blogosphere when Obama is labeled the anti-Christ? Asleep at the wheel?
Val
I translated that comment the same bison1. above my pay grade means – God's role.
TruthSeeker
Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…
TruthSeeker
More McCain lies…..
McCain Lied or Was Confused: You Make the Call
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/a-siegel/mccain-l…
McCain Voted For Earmark He Rails Against In Ad
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/mccain…
His wife lies too… about stealing drugs, cookie recipes, receipts and being an only child…a wide cross-section
Cindy McCain's Half Sister 'Angry' She's Hidden
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st…
McCain says rich people are not necessarily happy, apparently they're not necessarily honest either.
Miranda
I just read this story and was about to post it. This is a shame.
TruthSeeker
Even the Repubs don't trust him….
Sorry Fellow Kossaks, But It Was Freepers Who First Spotted McCain's Plagiarism
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/18/769…
TruthSeeker
Isn't it?…
What reason could Cindy have for excluding her sister?
TruthSeeker
Bingo!
Lilytiger
I wouldn't be surprised if Cindy had tried to pass herself off as John's only wife, either.
taritac
How ugly. It's a shame that people can treat their own family members like this. I can understand Cindy not feeling “sisterly” toward her half-sister, but not even to acknowledge she exists? Wrong. Familial relationships are complicated, certainly, but this can only add to bad blood.
And what a winner Cindy's dad was– leaving his first wife for the new model (hmmm, sounds familiar), not raising his first child, barely supporting her, then leaing nearly his entire fortune to Cindy. No wonder Cindy doesn't have a moral compass (or at least one that doesn't reliably point North).
GreenLadyHere
TruthSeeker: I'm going with BOF-O-DEM!! LIED and C-O-N-F-U-S-E-D!!!!
Whew!! Angrily shakin' Deep Breaths!!! :>) :>) :>)
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/ ChaunceyDevega
Barack Obama is the Anti-Christ, We Didn't Get the Memo!
http://wearerespectablenegroes.blogspot.com/200…
A story that didn't get enough traction. Where is black leadership and the black blogosphere when Obama is labeled the anti-Christ? Asleep at the wheel?

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