<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Is Obama the End of Black Politics? &#8211; Asks NY Times</title> <atom:link href="http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/</link> <description>A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:24:05 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1</generator> <item><title>By: facebook123</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-808592</link> <dc:creator>facebook123</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 Sep 2011 09:17:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-808592</guid> <description>&lt;strong&gt;Check this out...&lt;/strong&gt;[...] that is the end of this article. 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öåíû...&lt;/strong&gt;demontaj...</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>äåìîíòàæ äà÷íûõ äîìîâ öåíû&#8230;</strong></p><p>demontaj&#8230;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529292</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529292</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529293</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529293</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529294</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529294</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529295</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529295</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529296</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529296</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529297</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529297</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529298</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529298</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529299</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529299</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ruthdfw</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-529300</link> <dc:creator>ruthdfw</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 05 Mar 2011 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-529300</guid> <description>http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134" rel="nofollow">http://time-to-holiday.co.cc/2134</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Payday Loan Advocate</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-73090</link> <dc:creator>Payday Loan Advocate</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:54:36 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-73090</guid> <description>The television network, the CW, premiered a new drama on October 5th, 2008, called Easy Money, from the producers of the Sopranos. The show is based around a family who owns and operates a payday loan store called Prestige Payday Loans. Shows based around groups of people or cultures that do not get represented equally are all fine and good, however if and only if they’re represented fairly and accurately, and are not vehicles of perpetuating stereotypes and ignorance. A glance at the trailers and episode summaries make it clear that the show is indeed only portraying stereotypes, bearing in mind, of course, that the media rarely ever deviates from the narrow minded stereotype of the payday loan industry. Most of the coverage is horror stories of people in an “endless cycle” of debt, and it always begins when someone needs to fix their car or be able to cover an emergency bill. It proves, really, that networks aren’t interested in REAL reporting, they only like to cover whatever is shocking enough to get people to watch. The CW must be hungry to get viewers back after the writer’s strike. Just look at the show’s tagline: “For this family of loan sharks, money is easy.” Perhaps the show’s writers will actually show the positive side of the payday loan industry. However, chances are good that they won’t.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Post Courtesy of Personal Money Store&lt;br&gt;Professional Blogging Team&lt;br&gt;Feed Back:  1-866-641-3406&lt;br&gt;Home: &lt;a href=&quot;http://personalmoneystore.com/NoFaxPaydayLoans.html&quot;&gt;http://personalmoneystore.com/NoFaxPaydayLoans....&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Blog: &lt;a href=&quot;http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/&quot;&gt;http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/&lt;/a&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The television network, the CW, premiered a new drama on October 5th, 2008, called Easy Money, from the producers of the Sopranos. The show is based around a family who owns and operates a payday loan store called Prestige Payday Loans. Shows based around groups of people or cultures that do not get represented equally are all fine and good, however if and only if they’re represented fairly and accurately, and are not vehicles of perpetuating stereotypes and ignorance. A glance at the trailers and episode summaries make it clear that the show is indeed only portraying stereotypes, bearing in mind, of course, that the media rarely ever deviates from the narrow minded stereotype of the payday loan industry. Most of the coverage is horror stories of people in an “endless cycle” of debt, and it always begins when someone needs to fix their car or be able to cover an emergency bill. It proves, really, that networks aren’t interested in REAL reporting, they only like to cover whatever is shocking enough to get people to watch. The CW must be hungry to get viewers back after the writer’s strike. Just look at the show’s tagline: “For this family of loan sharks, money is easy.” Perhaps the show’s writers will actually show the positive side of the payday loan industry. However, chances are good that they won’t.</p><p>Post Courtesy of Personal Money Store<br />Professional Blogging Team<br />Feed Back:  1-866-641-3406<br />Home: <a href="http://personalmoneystore.com/NoFaxPaydayLoans.html">http://personalmoneystore.com/NoFaxPaydayLoans&#8230;.</a><br />Blog: <a href="http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/">http://personalmoneystore.com/moneyblog/</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Zhana</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-24496</link> <dc:creator>Zhana</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:37:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-24496</guid> <description>As several have said here, this is not the end, this is just the beginning. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope all who have commented here will join my Obama phone-in on 19th August.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As several have said here, this is not the end, this is just the beginning.</p><p>I hope all who have commented here will join my Obama phone-in on 19th August.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: michon</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-24497</link> <dc:creator>michon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:47:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-24497</guid> <description>Interesting article; better than what the NY Times usually does on the topic of race (usually very badly IMO).   But the ENDof black politics?  I don&#039;t think so.  That&#039;s like saying the founding of the NAACP marked the end of black politics a la Frederick Douglass; or the black power movement was the end of the politics of Bethune, Houston, Terrell.  I think the &#039;perceived power struggle has more to do with personalities like the black political power brokers sited in the articles than generation politics.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Among grassroots organizers and cultural professionals I know, I see a lot of back and forth respect between the generations and for those who&#039;ve come before any of us.   But everyone likes to have something they can call &quot;their stuff.&quot;  However, the environment, jobs, energy, Iraq, and globalization are and have been black issues.  They will be regardless of the outcome in November.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jill Tubman suggested I share my take on &quot;generation Obama.&quot;  It&#039;s like a border group between Gen X and the Baby Boomers.  [As of this election year we were kicked out of the Boomer group].  Our influences were the WW II generation (pragamatism) - grandparents, uncles, aunts, and perhaps parents.  They were our rocks.  They only had one TV and stereo (yep, that&#039;s what we called it) in the house.  We watched what they watched.  We listened to Nat King Cole, Sinatra, Sarah, maybe a little Johnny Cash.  They were unselfishly sentimental.  Second influence was the civil rights and black power generation (justice issues, multiculturalism, African diaspora).  They may have been our older siblings or parents.  If they were into the diaspora, they gave us the multi-cultural perspective. We were encouraged to demand, not ask; fight not flight and call it when we saw it.  We were proud of who were were as we were - &quot;Say It Loud...&quot; Finally there&#039;s the coming of age years (Reagan).  We were the test market for MTV and video games.  Hip Hop was Rap and some of it stuck with us or we slipped our parents&#039;/siblings&#039;Nina Simone, Coltrane, Aretha and Sarah stash into the trunk of the car and headed back to campus where we fused with Ruben Blades, Willie Colon, Celia Cruz.  Participated in panels hosted by the Asian Student Association, and pushed the board to divest from South Africa. AIDS came on the scene.  Crack on the city streets.   The divestment movement taught us something about investments, globalization, and commerce.  It may have been the first serious encounter with the Wall Street Journal.  We were intrigued. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All that said (and it&#039;s just a sprinkling), this group that includes Obama can&#039;t be neatly put into a box.  &quot;Border crossers&quot; may be the closest label.  The generations opened the doors.  So many influences; and we probably have been receptive in some form or fashion to all of them.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article; better than what the NY Times usually does on the topic of race (usually very badly IMO).   But the ENDof black politics?  I don&#39;t think so.  That&#39;s like saying the founding of the NAACP marked the end of black politics a la Frederick Douglass; or the black power movement was the end of the politics of Bethune, Houston, Terrell.  I think the &#39;perceived power struggle has more to do with personalities like the black political power brokers sited in the articles than generation politics.</p><p>Among grassroots organizers and cultural professionals I know, I see a lot of back and forth respect between the generations and for those who&#39;ve come before any of us.   But everyone likes to have something they can call &#8220;their stuff.&#8221;  However, the environment, jobs, energy, Iraq, and globalization are and have been black issues.  They will be regardless of the outcome in November.</p><p>Jill Tubman suggested I share my take on &#8220;generation Obama.&#8221;  It&#39;s like a border group between Gen X and the Baby Boomers.  [As of this election year we were kicked out of the Boomer group].  Our influences were the WW II generation (pragamatism) &#8211; grandparents, uncles, aunts, and perhaps parents.  They were our rocks.  They only had one TV and stereo (yep, that&#39;s what we called it) in the house.  We watched what they watched.  We listened to Nat King Cole, Sinatra, Sarah, maybe a little Johnny Cash.  They were unselfishly sentimental.  Second influence was the civil rights and black power generation (justice issues, multiculturalism, African diaspora).  They may have been our older siblings or parents.  If they were into the diaspora, they gave us the multi-cultural perspective. We were encouraged to demand, not ask; fight not flight and call it when we saw it.  We were proud of who were were as we were &#8211; &#8220;Say It Loud&#8230;&#8221; Finally there&#39;s the coming of age years (Reagan).  We were the test market for MTV and video games.  Hip Hop was Rap and some of it stuck with us or we slipped our parents&#39;/siblings&#39;Nina Simone, Coltrane, Aretha and Sarah stash into the trunk of the car and headed back to campus where we fused with Ruben Blades, Willie Colon, Celia Cruz.  Participated in panels hosted by the Asian Student Association, and pushed the board to divest from South Africa. AIDS came on the scene.  Crack on the city streets.   The divestment movement taught us something about investments, globalization, and commerce.  It may have been the first serious encounter with the Wall Street Journal.  We were intrigued.</p><p>All that said (and it&#39;s just a sprinkling), this group that includes Obama can&#39;t be neatly put into a box.  &#8220;Border crossers&#8221; may be the closest label.  The generations opened the doors.  So many influences; and we probably have been receptive in some form or fashion to all of them.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: PTCruiser</title><link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/is-obama-the-end-of-black-politics-asks-ny-times/comment-page-1/#comment-24528</link> <dc:creator>PTCruiser</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1760#comment-24528</guid> <description>You are not alone, sister! I think the brothers who were interviewed should have insisted that some black women be interviewed, too.  How could Donna Edwards, for example, have been overlooked?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are not alone, sister! I think the brothers who were interviewed should have insisted that some black women be interviewed, too.  How could Donna Edwards, for example, have been overlooked?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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