Jack & Jill Politics

They need to have a story to keep people interested. Just like the myth that this race is neck and neck… I think Barack should win comfortably… Not a blowout, but comfortable.

Thank you so much for being there and telling us what's really going on. From the way the networks are reporting this, you'd think white female Hillary supporters are going at Barack supporters with weapons or something. Glad to know that's not how it's actually going down.

Thanks Jill for linking to that piece. The media is really doing a # on the Party.

After hearing Hillary speak, I feel much better. I feel momentum shifting back in the right direction…but we will have to see how Joe does tomorrow…following Bill.

I can't lie; she did her thang! She was not only classy and gracious, but she gave Senator Obama and this Campaign a gift: a clear message and direction that has soarly been missing from this Convention and Campaign AND the best ready made resonse ad to McCain's lame ads that they could have ever wished for. No way, Now how, No McCain!

Thanks for sharing those articles and letting us know what's really going on. Does anyone else have the DNC 08 Channel? I discovered it yesterday on Dish Network here Los Angeles and it's so refreshing. It's all convention: no commentary, no commercials. You can actually watch what's happening for yourself and come to your own conclusions. I switched the channel to CNN immediately following Michelle Obama's speech yesterday and Hillary's speech tonight and wondered if these “experts” were watching the same convention.

Los Angelista: Co-signing! :>) :>)

The media coverage of the convention has been reprehensible. Its non stop “man bites dog” stories and pundits talking over speeches. Thank God for C-Span.

There two points in the Media Matters article that I want to address:

-Fact: Many in the press have portrayed Clinton's planned convention address, as well as the fact that her name is being placed into nomination, as an unprecedented, heavy-handed power grab.

Fact: It's not. In years past, Democratic candidates who won lots of primaries and accumulated hundreds of delegates (sorry, Howard Dean and Bill Bradley) have always been allowed to address the convention and very often place their name into nomination. It's the norm. It's expected. It's a formality.

-Based on previous conventions, if a candidate had accumulated as many delegates and votes as Clinton did during the primaries and then did not have her name placed into nomination, that would represent a radical departure from the convention norm.

I thought that it had been 16 years since a Democratic candidate who lost in the primary put their name in for nomination at the convention? It happened in 1992 and — ironically — the Clintons were pissed off about it.

Can someone help me out here?

Forget the Clinton News Network, someone oughta fire Chris Matthews straight up. Even Keith Olbermann was embarrassed to hear him squawk about Hillary-Hillary-Hillary getting dissed and dismissed by the Obama campaign and how much stress and bitterness is between the two (or three if you count Bill). I am so over Tweety, seriously!

Thanks for sharing this link!

This is great info! Thanks for sharing

It has been 16 years…it did not happen under Gore and Kerry..but it did happen with Dukais, Carter, and Clinton.

JesseJackson gave a one hour long speech and Dukakis did not call and tell him his decision on the VP either, despite Jesse having the second highest number of votes.

Bill Clinton was inDEED pissed off at Jerry Brown putting his name up for roll call.

Kennedy would not embrace Carter at that convention and that is what is said to have led to Carter not being re-elected…Democratic dissension and a divided party could not get behind the nominee and we lost the election to Regan.

What is unprecedented is for a Democrat to smear the party nominee by endorsing the opposing party's candidacy. never in the history of democratic primaries has that occurred. It took Hillary clinton to committ that vile heinous act.

She should have been kicked out of the party when she did that. But then her and Bill and McCain see Obama as their foe and Hillary did call McCain 'my friend' last night even if she also said 'no way, no how, no McCain” what she failed to say was that she believed Obama was ready to lead.

That is the sticky point with her supporters, over 60 voters and all the republicans are saying…even with Hillary in their ads saying it.

What made Hillarys actions particularly egregious is that her character assaults on Obama all came AFTER she had lost the nomination. Which happened by the end of February. hillary never once lead in delegates and by the end of February after Obama's 12 consecutive victories there was no mathematically possible way for Hillary to accrue the delegates needed to win the nomination. Her camp knew that.

What did they do? HRC loaned her campaign money and they went on the rampage, throwing the kitchen sink at Obama in a fit of rage and spite and hate the likes of which have never been seen before on the national political stage. Her goal was 'if I can't have the nomination, Obama won't win the WH even if he does get the nomination' because she was hellbent on tearing him down. And that is what her and Bill preceeded to do. Going in to rural communities and stirring up 'her base' the whiteworkingclass.

So Hillary alone is unique in democratic presidential primaries for not only not conceding when she no longer could win, but in also taking 4 more months to bash and destroy what was inDEED the party nominee all for her own selfish ambitions.

She HAD to give a ringing endorsement..she had to say she supports Obama effusively but gosh darn it…her and Bill's actions continue to show they do not support the nominee.

Their henchmen are out there carrying 'leaks' to the press every chance they can it.

It is not coincidental that all those 'leaks' carry one consistent message…obama can't win and Hillary will run in 2012.

Puhleeeeze.

whiterosebuddy: CO-SIGNING ON ALL POINTS!!! WELL SAID!!!!! :>) :>)

Or…if we were cynical we could say that Obama is going to talk about America being at the crossroads of demiss …like the fall fo the Roman empire.

That speech Hillary gave last night was a rousing endorsement of Obama however Schweitzer's speech embraced Obama and that is what the Clintons have yet to do.

I am praying that Bill comes out tonight and denounces and unequivocally rejects the most damning indictment Hilary made during the primaries when she endorsed the opposing party nominee, McCain over Obama by saying ..she had experience, mcCain had experience and all Obama had was a speech he gave in 02.

The Clintons owe the Democrati party and it is time to pay up after we stood behind Bill when he disgraced the office of the Presidency. We have paid dearly for that, with the last 8 years of republican rule because Bush was going to 'bring honor back' to the White House.

I need Clinton to talk about how Obama has the judgment to lead and the vision to move American back on course.

I want him to do so, enthusiastically, effusively and unabashedly.

Only THAt will bring us the white house as it is the one thing that Hill supporters and GOP keep saying. It is complete hypocrisy coming from Hill supporters given she has no individual political accomplishments to her name as an elected official.
She was truly the affirmative action candidate.

I was much taken aback by her Harriet Tubman reference as well. I thought it was a very divisive subliminal remark to white woman. Anyone who knows history understood that the suffragettes split from the aboltionists when black men were given the right to vote. Seeing as how it was the anniversary of the womens right to vote I thought she was sending out the message that white women should not vote for Obama, because she failed to tell them he had the judgement to lead. I thought her 'keep on going' was for her supporters to wait until 2012 when they would be able to elect a white female FIRSt as opposed to a black man obtaining the Presidency before white woman.

I thought blackfolks who did not know history would see this as her effort to assuage the racial polarization she and Bill created. Her way of asserting that theyw ere not racists even though they stooped to using racemongering as a tactic to win without regard for the historical and subsequent longterm consequences of stirring up all that racial hatred and animosity. And some blackfolks might just forgive that. I do not.

As a black female I saw her remarks as coldly calculated and shrewedly manipulative. She retained her political status by endorsing Obama but she was also telling her whitesisterHOOD that they were entitled on the basis of race to be first this time and to wait until 2012 for her.

Bill Clinton does not even plan to be at Obama's acceptance speech.

To me..actions speak louder than words.

I am unlike the millions who are swayed by words vs. deeds.

The Clintons actions to date are NOT fully behind Obama as the candidate.
Bill Clinton has a lot of nerve trying to castigate Obama for 'diminishing' his Presdency when he himself disgrace his own legacy. What a bunch of white entitlement crap. Bill Clinton owes the Democratic party and it is time to PAY!!

Clinton sold it last night — agreed.

cheryl aka Jill tubman:

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for “bringing it” to your JJP family!!!! :>)

Your coverage has been OUTSTANDING!!!! Whoo!!! Hoo!!!

LOVE YA!!!! :>) :>)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEUKW99ohuw

ENJOY!!! :>) :>)

The Greek-temple stage setting for Barack Obama's acceptance speech, tomorrow is the focus of some of the news anchors/pundits, today. They are say ing Obama is setting himself up as some sort of “Greek God.” Of course, any reasonable person would see the absurdity of what they are saying. Clearly, ancient Greece was birthplace of Democracy (Democratic Party) and the stage setting is a representation of that, as well as replica of a forum where all (Gr.) people were able to give voice and be heard.

Or…if we were cynical we could say that Obama is going to talk about America being at the crossroads of demiss …like the fall fo the Roman empire.

That speech Hillary gave last night was a rousing endorsement of Obama however Schweitzer's speech embraced Obama and that is what the Clintons have yet to do.

I am praying that Bill comes out tonight and denounces and unequivocally rejects the most damning indictment Hilary made during the primaries when she endorsed the opposing party nominee, McCain over Obama by saying ..she had experience, mcCain had experience and all Obama had was a speech he gave in 02.

The Clintons owe the Democrati party and it is time to pay up after we stood behind Bill when he disgraced the office of the Presidency. We have paid dearly for that, with the last 8 years of republican rule because Bush was going to 'bring honor back' to the White House.

I need Clinton to talk about how Obama has the judgment to lead and the vision to move American back on course.

I want him to do so, enthusiastically, effusively and unabashedly.

Only THAt will bring us the white house as it is the one thing that Hill supporters and GOP keep saying. It is complete hypocrisy coming from Hill supporters given she has no individual political accomplishments to her name as an elected official.
She was truly the affirmative action candidate.

I was much taken aback by her Harriet Tubman reference as well. I thought it was a very divisive subliminal remark to white woman. Anyone who knows history understood that the suffragettes split from the aboltionists when black men were given the right to vote. Seeing as how it was the anniversary of the womens right to vote I thought she was sending out the message that white women should not vote for Obama, because she failed to tell them he had the judgement to lead. I thought her 'keep on going' was for her supporters to wait until 2012 when they would be able to elect a white female FIRSt as opposed to a black man obtaining the Presidency before white woman.

I thought blackfolks who did not know history would see this as her effort to assuage the racial polarization she and Bill created. Her way of asserting that theyw ere not racists even though they stooped to using racemongering as a tactic to win without regard for the historical and subsequent longterm consequences of stirring up all that racial hatred and animosity. And some blackfolks might just forgive that. I do not.

As a black female I saw her remarks as coldly calculated and shrewedly manipulative. She retained her political status by endorsing Obama but she was also telling her whitesisterHOOD that they were entitled on the basis of race to be first this time and to wait until 2012 for her.

Bill Clinton does not even plan to be at Obama's acceptance speech.

To me..actions speak louder than words.

I am unlike the millions who are swayed by words vs. deeds.

The Clintons actions to date are NOT fully behind Obama as the candidate.
Bill Clinton has a lot of nerve trying to castigate Obama for 'diminishing' his Presdency when he himself disgrace his own legacy. What a bunch of white entitlement crap. Bill Clinton owes the Democratic party and it is time to PAY!!

Clinton sold it last night — agreed.

cheryl aka Jill tubman:

THANK YOU VERY MUCH for “bringing it” to your JJP family!!!! :>)

Your coverage has been OUTSTANDING!!!! Whoo!!! Hoo!!!

LOVE YA!!!! :>) :>)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEUKW99ohuw

ENJOY!!! :>) :>)