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		<title>By: sbs</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-162577</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 21:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wan to be in Oxford University Education Faculty Please help me</description>
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		<title>By: sbs</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 18:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wan to be in Oxford University Education Faculty Please help me</description>
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		<title>By: Thunderheart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thunderheart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 15:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The EU is one of the slowest to extend true free trade to Africa, and has been very resistant to reduce its farm subsidies in particular.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Unfortunately, the EU has also taken to making sure the tariff barriers to outside countries go over higher as they integrate more new countries like Poland into the EU itself. In France and Germany, there is ridiculous fears over &quot;Polish plumbers&quot; taking away jobs, so the EU tends to deal with this by making sure tariffs on goods coming from outside the EU are high.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Contrast this with the US, which recently was pushing for a global reduction in tariffs on farm goods, as well as a global reduction on farm subsidies, which in this country overwhelmingly favor the small number of large corporate farms and NOT, as their supporters would have you believe, the small family farms.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In that respect, support for the most 2008 Farm Bill was a vote in favor of a bill where 80% of the money goes to the top 20% wealthiest corporate farm interests.  It was more about courting those wealthy farmers in Indiana and Illinois and Iowa than about really helping hard-pressed small farmers.  And it certainly wasn&#039;t about helping feed people outside of the United States!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t take my word for it, Google &quot;Farm Bill 2008&quot; and follow the links and decide for yourself.  But here&#039;s one essay from economist Greg Mankiw I found instructive:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/05/farm-bill-veto.html&quot;&gt;http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/05/farm-bil...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It it worth noting that McCain voted against this pork-fest, and Obama voted for it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Similarly, there is a debate in this country over switching to ethanol and away from gasoline as a means to achieving the dual goals of emitting less CO2 and also sending less money to those lovely Saudis, Iranians and Venezuelans who dig us so much.  Not to mention just spending less money on filling up one&#039;s car!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brazil has gone from having 3% of their new cars being flex-fuel in 2003, to 70% of their new cars being flex-fuel in 2006!  Brazil has done this by investing heavily in cheap, plentiful sugar-based ethanol, so Brazil has now effectively achieved the elusive goal of being energy-independent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But, because of the corn-growing ethanol lobby here in the U.S., there is a huge tariff on the import of sugar-based ethanol that amounts to 54 cents a gallon!  This is not about helping the American consumer -- rather, it is all about protecting the Iowa and Illinois corn ethanol farmers from competition.   Again, as with the farm bill, Obama sides with the giveaway for Illinois and Iowa farmers over lower ethanol prices for all Americans.  Google &quot;sugar ethanol tariff&quot; for the relevant links.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My point is, and I know I&#039;ve wandered all over the place in getting here, is that the tariffs and protectionism of the sort favored by both the EU and Senator Obama do NOT favor the customers that are supposedly being protected, nor do they favor the exporters in Africa, Brazil and elsewhere who simply want to get access to the big markets in the EU and the U.S.  The best way the U.S. could help African nations grow and prosper is to drop all the ridiculous tariffs we have on the very export goods that African nations send our way.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In this respect, the U.S. is better than the EU, but that&#039;s not saying much at all. We still need to be far better than we&#039;ve been thus far.  Sadly, for all his rhetoric Senator Obama stands squarely in the way of lowering tariffs on African goods exported to the U.S., whereas old white Senator McCain has been a staunch opponent of tariffs against foreign goods, and an equally strong foe of the giveaways to the bloated farm lobby here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The EU is one of the slowest to extend true free trade to Africa, and has been very resistant to reduce its farm subsidies in particular.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the EU has also taken to making sure the tariff barriers to outside countries go over higher as they integrate more new countries like Poland into the EU itself. In France and Germany, there is ridiculous fears over &#8220;Polish plumbers&#8221; taking away jobs, so the EU tends to deal with this by making sure tariffs on goods coming from outside the EU are high.</p>
<p>Contrast this with the US, which recently was pushing for a global reduction in tariffs on farm goods, as well as a global reduction on farm subsidies, which in this country overwhelmingly favor the small number of large corporate farms and NOT, as their supporters would have you believe, the small family farms.</p>
<p>In that respect, support for the most 2008 Farm Bill was a vote in favor of a bill where 80% of the money goes to the top 20% wealthiest corporate farm interests.  It was more about courting those wealthy farmers in Indiana and Illinois and Iowa than about really helping hard-pressed small farmers.  And it certainly wasn&#39;t about helping feed people outside of the United States!</p>
<p>Don&#39;t take my word for it, Google &#8220;Farm Bill 2008&#8243; and follow the links and decide for yourself.  But here&#39;s one essay from economist Greg Mankiw I found instructive:</p>
<p><a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/05/farm-bill-veto.html"></a><a href="http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/05/farm-bil.." rel="nofollow">http://gregmankiw.blogspot.com/2008/05/farm-bil..</a>.</p>
<p>It it worth noting that McCain voted against this pork-fest, and Obama voted for it.</p>
<p>Similarly, there is a debate in this country over switching to ethanol and away from gasoline as a means to achieving the dual goals of emitting less CO2 and also sending less money to those lovely Saudis, Iranians and Venezuelans who dig us so much.  Not to mention just spending less money on filling up one&#39;s car!</p>
<p>Brazil has gone from having 3% of their new cars being flex-fuel in 2003, to 70% of their new cars being flex-fuel in 2006!  Brazil has done this by investing heavily in cheap, plentiful sugar-based ethanol, so Brazil has now effectively achieved the elusive goal of being energy-independent.</p>
<p>But, because of the corn-growing ethanol lobby here in the U.S., there is a huge tariff on the import of sugar-based ethanol that amounts to 54 cents a gallon!  This is not about helping the American consumer &#8212; rather, it is all about protecting the Iowa and Illinois corn ethanol farmers from competition.   Again, as with the farm bill, Obama sides with the giveaway for Illinois and Iowa farmers over lower ethanol prices for all Americans.  Google &#8220;sugar ethanol tariff&#8221; for the relevant links.</p>
<p>My point is, and I know I&#39;ve wandered all over the place in getting here, is that the tariffs and protectionism of the sort favored by both the EU and Senator Obama do NOT favor the customers that are supposedly being protected, nor do they favor the exporters in Africa, Brazil and elsewhere who simply want to get access to the big markets in the EU and the U.S.  The best way the U.S. could help African nations grow and prosper is to drop all the ridiculous tariffs we have on the very export goods that African nations send our way.  </p>
<p>In this respect, the U.S. is better than the EU, but that&#39;s not saying much at all. We still need to be far better than we&#39;ve been thus far.  Sadly, for all his rhetoric Senator Obama stands squarely in the way of lowering tariffs on African goods exported to the U.S., whereas old white Senator McCain has been a staunch opponent of tariffs against foreign goods, and an equally strong foe of the giveaways to the bloated farm lobby here.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-29334</link>
		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 05:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d look to other sources of information than what you easily find in the corporate media here and abroad. I never advocated Mugabe as blameless either. It&#039;s just historically this gov&#039;t has overthrown democratically elected gov&#039;ts in favor of brutal dictators who terrorized the citizens of the countries they were given control over. See: Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet etc etc etc. These rulers enjoyed privileged status and favorable relations/good press until they stopped towing the line then they were suddenly &#039;bad&#039;. They trained people to fight against one gov&#039;t during one particular conflict then were turned on by them. See: Osama Bin Laden. These things are not mistakes. It&#039;s blowback for continually messing in the affairs of other countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;d look to other sources of information than what you easily find in the corporate media here and abroad. I never advocated Mugabe as blameless either. It&#39;s just historically this gov&#39;t has overthrown democratically elected gov&#39;ts in favor of brutal dictators who terrorized the citizens of the countries they were given control over. See: Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet etc etc etc. These rulers enjoyed privileged status and favorable relations/good press until they stopped towing the line then they were suddenly &#39;bad&#39;. They trained people to fight against one gov&#39;t during one particular conflict then were turned on by them. See: Osama Bin Laden. These things are not mistakes. It&#39;s blowback for continually messing in the affairs of other countries.</p>
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		<title>By: Koop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While too young and politically naive at the time I believe I would have supported the (eventual) actions against apartheid South Africa by the US and the UK (among others).  The fact that Mugabe was one of the trailblazers for black rule does not excuse what he has done to his country and countrymen.  Judging the man based on the content of his character I would have to say that Mugabe deserves to be locked up and I do not flinch at governments around the world taking actions similar to apartheid SA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;With that said, my knowledge is admittedly superficial and I would be open to hearing new facts that would shed new light on Mugabe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While too young and politically naive at the time I believe I would have supported the (eventual) actions against apartheid South Africa by the US and the UK (among others).  The fact that Mugabe was one of the trailblazers for black rule does not excuse what he has done to his country and countrymen.  Judging the man based on the content of his character I would have to say that Mugabe deserves to be locked up and I do not flinch at governments around the world taking actions similar to apartheid SA.</p>
<p>With that said, my knowledge is admittedly superficial and I would be open to hearing new facts that would shed new light on Mugabe.</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 02:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does being funded by the US and UK to overthrow a gov&#039;t make one a victim?</description>
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		<title>By: Koop</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-29331</link>
		<dc:creator>Koop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:20:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is imprisoning, threatening, beating and killing your political opponents and their supporters what we are calling &quot;election fraud&quot; nowadays?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is imprisoning, threatening, beating and killing your political opponents and their supporters what we are calling &#8220;election fraud&#8221; nowadays?</p>
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		<title>By: GoldenAh</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-29325</link>
		<dc:creator>GoldenAh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fastest growing trade Africa has is with China. Ask the instructors about how the EU, et al plan to compete with people (China) who don&#039;t have a history (at least for now) of asking struggling Africans to jump through so many ideological and fiscal hoops just to be left at the altar of &quot;fair trade.&quot; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/126/special-report-china-in-africa.html&quot;&gt; Fast Company has an interesting article about this.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fastest growing trade Africa has is with China. Ask the instructors about how the EU, et al plan to compete with people (China) who don&#39;t have a history (at least for now) of asking struggling Africans to jump through so many ideological and fiscal hoops just to be left at the altar of &#8220;fair trade.&#8221; <a href="http://www.fastcompany.com/magazine/126/special-report-china-in-africa.html"> Fast Company has an interesting article about this.</a></p>
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		<title>By: deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-29326</link>
		<dc:creator>deocliciano Okssipin Vieira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;u&gt;I think they want to deal with Africa to the extent that when time comes, Africa may be lobbied to either join the EU or receive benefits in some manner.&lt;br&gt;...&lt;/u&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yeah!&lt;br&gt;...  North Africa you mean.&lt;br&gt;They are being HARD pressed by China regarding Sub-Sahara Africa, tho.</description>
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<p><u>I think they want to deal with Africa to the extent that when time comes, Africa may be lobbied to either join the EU or receive benefits in some manner.<br />&#8230;</u></p>
<p>Yeah!<br />&#8230;  North Africa you mean.<br />They are being HARD pressed by China regarding Sub-Sahara Africa, tho.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/08/being-at-oxford/comment-page-1/#comment-29329</link>
		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 18:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My problem with American Free Trade Agreements is that there&#039;s no mechanism to facilitate accountability on the part of the partners, and there&#039;s no enforcement mechanism for those who violate the terms and conditions of the agreements.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sure, there may be some job losses within economic cycles that can be planned for or contengencies made.  But with NAFTA and CAFTA, those FTAs were ushered in by corporate lobbyists who saw opportunities to make fat profits at low wages paid in the partner participants.  When things were made in the USA, the unions saw to it that their members were paid prevailing wage, and the Labor Department enforced that.  With partners like third world countries involved, there&#039;s no reason to keep paying prevailing wages, when the partner countries pay 90% less.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you really want to know, look at the job cycles after an FTA with the US as a participant, is enacted, and see which companies start announcing cutbacks in employment, such as manufacturing jobs, and industries that supported entire towns, like Detroit or Cleveland.  Those employees look at what happened pre-NAFTA and post-NAFTA.  I would also recommend Robert Greenwald&#039;s &quot;Wal-Mart; The High Cost of Low Price&quot; which is a documentary that details how Wal-Mart hits towns and small businesses dry up and go out of business; how Wal-Mart decimates entire communities while giving nothing back.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Inglewood, Ca wasn&#039;t having it.  They got Wal Mart run out of town after Wal Mart tried to circumvent the process and tried to get a referendum passed that would have allowed them to build.  That ballot failed by a 2/3 margin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Usually when economic cycles hit, they may put some people out of work, but not forever - the cycle usually cycles back around to where people can return to work.  Ever since the FTAs, jobs have been leaving the country never to return.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My problem with American Free Trade Agreements is that there&#39;s no mechanism to facilitate accountability on the part of the partners, and there&#39;s no enforcement mechanism for those who violate the terms and conditions of the agreements.</p>
<p>Sure, there may be some job losses within economic cycles that can be planned for or contengencies made.  But with NAFTA and CAFTA, those FTAs were ushered in by corporate lobbyists who saw opportunities to make fat profits at low wages paid in the partner participants.  When things were made in the USA, the unions saw to it that their members were paid prevailing wage, and the Labor Department enforced that.  With partners like third world countries involved, there&#39;s no reason to keep paying prevailing wages, when the partner countries pay 90% less.</p>
<p>If you really want to know, look at the job cycles after an FTA with the US as a participant, is enacted, and see which companies start announcing cutbacks in employment, such as manufacturing jobs, and industries that supported entire towns, like Detroit or Cleveland.  Those employees look at what happened pre-NAFTA and post-NAFTA.  I would also recommend Robert Greenwald&#39;s &#8220;Wal-Mart; The High Cost of Low Price&#8221; which is a documentary that details how Wal-Mart hits towns and small businesses dry up and go out of business; how Wal-Mart decimates entire communities while giving nothing back.  </p>
<p>Inglewood, Ca wasn&#39;t having it.  They got Wal Mart run out of town after Wal Mart tried to circumvent the process and tried to get a referendum passed that would have allowed them to build.  That ballot failed by a 2/3 margin.</p>
<p>Usually when economic cycles hit, they may put some people out of work, but not forever &#8211; the cycle usually cycles back around to where people can return to work.  Ever since the FTAs, jobs have been leaving the country never to return.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 17:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to ask about their commitment to the development of the economic resources of Africa. Africans controlling their own economic destiny. Do they have programs for entrpreneurship. Yes, I want to see capitalism come to Africa. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And, what about infrastructure. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Education.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m going to ask about their commitment to the development of the economic resources of Africa. Africans controlling their own economic destiny. Do they have programs for entrpreneurship. Yes, I want to see capitalism come to Africa. </p>
<p>And, what about infrastructure. </p>
<p>Education.</p>
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		<title>By: Black Political Analysis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Black Political Analysis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hate to play Devil&#039;s Advocate, but how do we know that there wouldn&#039;t be job losses in certain sectors anyway? After all, there have always been economic cycles punctuated by job loss and job creation. How do we actually know that NAFTA is the culprit? Likewise, if America removes itself from NAFTA or CAFTA, is there a possible downside to American exporters?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hate to play Devil&#39;s Advocate, but how do we know that there wouldn&#39;t be job losses in certain sectors anyway? After all, there have always been economic cycles punctuated by job loss and job creation. How do we actually know that NAFTA is the culprit? Likewise, if America removes itself from NAFTA or CAFTA, is there a possible downside to American exporters?</p>
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		<title>By: heartsandflowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>heartsandflowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;d like some thoughts on the historical ramifications of colonialism and the continued sanctions against countries like Zimbabwe when rulers don&#039;t comply with the political wishes of the West. Yes, there&#039;s argument against Mugabe for election fraud but he did reclaim the land that was held by a minority that had been appointed by the Queen and other cronies. Under what circumstances was it ever right that 80% of land in a country of Black Africans be &#039;owned&#039; by whites? How do they plan to correct those wrongs when companies like De Beers are still in existence and so many natural resources are &#039;owned&#039; by white European companies - which they got due to occupation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#39;d like some thoughts on the historical ramifications of colonialism and the continued sanctions against countries like Zimbabwe when rulers don&#39;t comply with the political wishes of the West. Yes, there&#39;s argument against Mugabe for election fraud but he did reclaim the land that was held by a minority that had been appointed by the Queen and other cronies. Under what circumstances was it ever right that 80% of land in a country of Black Africans be &#39;owned&#39; by whites? How do they plan to correct those wrongs when companies like De Beers are still in existence and so many natural resources are &#39;owned&#39; by white European companies &#8211; which they got due to occupation?</p>
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