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	<title>Comments on: Why Karl Rove Should Go To Jail</title>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-161486</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job on the debut show of Meet the Bloggers!  The two-tier system of &quot;justice&quot; is the heart of the issue with Rove&#039;s defiance of the law, and you brought it home. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glad I followed the link here to find your pointer to the Katrina petition. Thanks, and hope to see you regularly on MtB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on the debut show of Meet the Bloggers!  The two-tier system of &#8220;justice&#8221; is the heart of the issue with Rove&#39;s defiance of the law, and you brought it home. </p>
<p>Glad I followed the link here to find your pointer to the Katrina petition. Thanks, and hope to see you regularly on MtB.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-161487</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 14:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring a subpoena from the Volksgerichtshof is not a criminal act. John “Freisler” Conyers is attempting another one of his Nazi moves, in order to impress the Dems &lt;i&gt;Brownshirts&lt;/i&gt; base.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rove’s lawyer says that he is immune and protected by executive privilege, so the ball is back in John “Freisler” Conyers’ Volksgerichtshof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring a subpoena from the Volksgerichtshof is not a criminal act. John “Freisler” Conyers is attempting another one of his Nazi moves, in order to impress the Dems <i>Brownshirts</i> base.</p>
<p>Rove’s lawyer says that he is immune and protected by executive privilege, so the ball is back in John “Freisler” Conyers’ Volksgerichtshof.</p>
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		<title>By: Nell</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27324</link>
		<dc:creator>Nell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job on the debut show of Meet the Bloggers!  The two-tier system of &quot;justice&quot; is the heart of the issue with Rove&#039;s defiance of the law, and you brought it home. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Glad I followed the link here to find your pointer to the Katrina petition. Thanks, and hope to see you regularly on MtB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job on the debut show of Meet the Bloggers!  The two-tier system of &#8220;justice&#8221; is the heart of the issue with Rove&#39;s defiance of the law, and you brought it home. </p>
<p>Glad I followed the link here to find your pointer to the Katrina petition. Thanks, and hope to see you regularly on MtB.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27370</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignoring a subpoena from the Volksgerichtshof is not a criminal act. John “Freisler” Conyers is attempting another one of his Nazi moves, in order to impress the Dems &lt;i&gt;Brownshirts&lt;/i&gt; base.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rove’s lawyer says that he is immune and protected by executive privilege, so the ball is back in John “Freisler” Conyers’ Volksgerichtshof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring a subpoena from the Volksgerichtshof is not a criminal act. John “Freisler” Conyers is attempting another one of his Nazi moves, in order to impress the Dems <i>Brownshirts</i> base.</p>
<p>Rove’s lawyer says that he is immune and protected by executive privilege, so the ball is back in John “Freisler” Conyers’ Volksgerichtshof.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27343</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 05:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baratunde:  Thanks!  Continue to enjoy the conference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baratunde:  Thanks!  Continue to enjoy the conference!</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27340</link>
		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey sorry for the delay. been out at the conference all day. i just hit up karmi with a quick reply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey sorry for the delay. been out at the conference all day. i just hit up karmi with a quick reply</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27369</link>
		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove ignored a subpoena from the US Congress. He is a criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove ignored a subpoena from the US Congress. He is a criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: baratunde aka jack turner</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27330</link>
		<dc:creator>baratunde aka jack turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 04:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh this is too much! Biscuit!!? LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh this is too much! Biscuit!!? LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Noelani</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27325</link>
		<dc:creator>Noelani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Send his big-headed ass to jail ... asap!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send his big-headed ass to jail &#8230; asap!</p>
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		<title>By: lexusOakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexusOakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:53:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that was a California case (my state)... although I believe there have been similar instances in other states. I share your discomfort with high school military recruiters. I think most schools get enough military exposure through ROTC; to additionally plant recruiters on site who, in California at least, do not even have to notify the office of their presence on campus, is way over the top. I worked for years as a social worker, and we were required to sign in at the office even though the schools knew us, yet a Marine recruiter can be on campus all day, without admin being aware of his/her presence. One would wish that colleges would recruit in urban high schools with the same fervor... If a kid who has been through our failing school system can be remediated to make it in the military, why not in college? I would love to see a system where local college recruiters put in the same time and effort courting students that military recruiters do--and I mean the students who are NOT in the top 10 percent... rather the ones who perceive they have no where to go but the military.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that was a California case (my state)&#8230; although I believe there have been similar instances in other states. I share your discomfort with high school military recruiters. I think most schools get enough military exposure through ROTC; to additionally plant recruiters on site who, in California at least, do not even have to notify the office of their presence on campus, is way over the top. I worked for years as a social worker, and we were required to sign in at the office even though the schools knew us, yet a Marine recruiter can be on campus all day, without admin being aware of his/her presence. One would wish that colleges would recruit in urban high schools with the same fervor&#8230; If a kid who has been through our failing school system can be remediated to make it in the military, why not in college? I would love to see a system where local college recruiters put in the same time and effort courting students that military recruiters do&#8211;and I mean the students who are NOT in the top 10 percent&#8230; rather the ones who perceive they have no where to go but the military.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27326</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rove should have to go to the Cook County jail where prisoners are having to sleep in shifts and the guards are abusing prisoners and they&#039;re not getting medical treatment because of the overcrowding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rove should have to go to the Cook County jail where prisoners are having to sleep in shifts and the guards are abusing prisoners and they&#39;re not getting medical treatment because of the overcrowding.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27328</link>
		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Y&#039;all, I watched Baratunde live from Netroots Nation and am really proud of how he represented, especially with the nugget about the prison industry and how brothers are going to jail for a whole lot less than that slimy SOB Rove has done.  In any other country, Rove wouldn&#039;t be allowed to tell Congress to kiss his ass after being slapped with a subpeona.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope he gets sent to Pelican Bay State Prison, where he becomes the prison girlfriend of guys named Biscuit, LeRoy, Skillet and Hard Time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Y&#39;all, I watched Baratunde live from Netroots Nation and am really proud of how he represented, especially with the nugget about the prison industry and how brothers are going to jail for a whole lot less than that slimy SOB Rove has done.  In any other country, Rove wouldn&#39;t be allowed to tell Congress to kiss his ass after being slapped with a subpeona.</p>
<p>I hope he gets sent to Pelican Bay State Prison, where he becomes the prison girlfriend of guys named Biscuit, LeRoy, Skillet and Hard Time.</p>
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		<title>By: GreenLadyHere</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27359</link>
		<dc:creator>GreenLadyHere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>msmartin:  Got your back!!  Tell me how it is rational to say &quot;It is you doing the assuming. . .&quot;  What is that non-sequitur in response to? [dang those dangling participles!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>msmartin:  Got your back!!  Tell me how it is rational to say &#8220;It is you doing the assuming. . .&#8221;  What is that non-sequitur in response to? [dang those dangling participles!  :&gt;)  :&gt;)]</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27360</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is you doing the assuming...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is you doing the assuming&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27371</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another point, in favor of legalizing all drugs, it that many violent-crimes stem from the use of drugs, e.g. robberies and/or burglaries being committed in order to supply a drug habit. Legalizing drugs would also cut down on violent-crimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another point, in favor of legalizing all drugs, it that many violent-crimes stem from the use of drugs, e.g. robberies and/or burglaries being committed in order to supply a drug habit. Legalizing drugs would also cut down on violent-crimes.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27357</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You assume that because you&#039;re on a predominantly black blog that we don&#039;t know the definition of recidivism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You assume that because you&#39;re on a predominantly black blog that we don&#39;t know the definition of recidivism?</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27362</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27349</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure it was designed to feed the military and don&#039;t forget McCain didn&#039;t want to allow those children any benefits to complete their education after service thereby forcing them to remain in the military.  Wow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;m sure it was designed to feed the military and don&#39;t forget McCain didn&#39;t want to allow those children any benefits to complete their education after service thereby forcing them to remain in the military.  Wow.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27334</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I searched for some equivalent in Canada that allows military recruitment in high school, but it seemed that it&#039;s primarily on University campus career fairs.  Recruiters are often strenuously opposed  by University student groups, which is great.  I have less unease about the College recruitment because I imagine those &quot;kids&quot; have matured enough to make a better decision.  High school recruitment sends a cold chill down my spine.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did you hear about the recruiter who repeatedly raped a teenage girl?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response.  </p>
<p>I searched for some equivalent in Canada that allows military recruitment in high school, but it seemed that it&#39;s primarily on University campus career fairs.  Recruiters are often strenuously opposed  by University student groups, which is great.  I have less unease about the College recruitment because I imagine those &#8220;kids&#8221; have matured enough to make a better decision.  High school recruitment sends a cold chill down my spine.  </p>
<p>Did you hear about the recruiter who repeatedly raped a teenage girl?</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/why-karl-rove-should-go-to-jail/comment-page-1/#comment-27355</link>
		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recidivism is a problem, i.e. it is considered before Civil Rights can be restored...recidivist: &lt;i&gt;One who commits a second (or higher numbered) crime; a repeat offender; a habitual criminal.&lt;/i&gt; In 2005, &lt;i&gt;the recidivism rates for released prisoners in the United States of America was 60%.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The wait can be long, and in my case it was about 11-years after release. Some findings from a 1994 report: 1) &lt;i&gt;Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).&lt;/i&gt; 2) &lt;i&gt;The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated &lt;b&gt;4.1 million arrest charges&lt;/b&gt; before their most recent imprisonment and &lt;b&gt;another 744,000 charges&lt;/b&gt; within 3 years of release.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recidivism is a problem, i.e. it is considered before Civil Rights can be restored&#8230;recidivist: <i>One who commits a second (or higher numbered) crime; a repeat offender; a habitual criminal.</i> In 2005, <i>the recidivism rates for released prisoners in the United States of America was 60%.</i></p>
<p>The wait can be long, and in my case it was about 11-years after release. Some findings from a 1994 report: 1) <i>Released prisoners with the highest rearrest rates were robbers (70.2%), burglars (74.0%), larcenists (74.6%), motor vehicle thieves (78.8%), those in prison for possessing or selling stolen property (77.4%), and those in prison for possessing, using, or selling illegal weapons (70.2%).</i> 2) <i>The 272,111 offenders discharged in 1994 had accumulated <b>4.1 million arrest charges</b> before their most recent imprisonment and <b>another 744,000 charges</b> within 3 years of release.</i></p>
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