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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-165060</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 07:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the video of the woman who collapsed and died in the waiting room of the King&#039;s County hospital in New York.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Apparently, she&#039;d been taken to the hospital and was told to wait until a bed became available.....in the waiting room!  One report said she&#039;d been waiting 24 hours, sitting in a chair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This was a human being, a black woman who collapsed in a waiting room with other black people seated observing.  No one flinched or went over to see if she needed help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did anyone else see this?  What do you think?  Did anyone see the vid of the cop who dumped a disabled man from his wheelchair to prove he was faking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ignorance?&lt;br&gt;Cruelty?&lt;br&gt;Self Hatred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve seen the video of the woman who collapsed and died in the waiting room of the King&#39;s County hospital in New York.</p>
<p>Apparently, she&#39;d been taken to the hospital and was told to wait until a bed became available&#8230;..in the waiting room!  One report said she&#39;d been waiting 24 hours, sitting in a chair.</p>
<p>This was a human being, a black woman who collapsed in a waiting room with other black people seated observing.  No one flinched or went over to see if she needed help.</p>
<p>Did anyone else see this?  What do you think?  Did anyone see the vid of the cop who dumped a disabled man from his wheelchair to prove he was faking?</p>
<p>Ignorance?<br />Cruelty?<br />Self Hatred?</p>
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		<title>By: icebergslim</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-165062</link>
		<dc:creator>icebergslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much will be redeemed when he endorses Obama.  He is not hopless, he was just hapless.  He did heavy lifting to validate the Iraq War and then saw himself and image kicked to the MF&#039;en curb by the Bush Administration.  When he endorses Obama, he will BLAST the right.  And there are many who admire him, even through what has happened.  Watch Bush&#039;s War, Frontline on PBS.  The story is told THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much will be redeemed when he endorses Obama.  He is not hopless, he was just hapless.  He did heavy lifting to validate the Iraq War and then saw himself and image kicked to the MF&#39;en curb by the Bush Administration.  When he endorses Obama, he will BLAST the right.  And there are many who admire him, even through what has happened.  Watch Bush&#39;s War, Frontline on PBS.  The story is told THERE.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-165061</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama had a meeting with Powell. I know that there are those of us who won&#039;t forgive Powell. But, isn&#039;t anyone going to give him the chance to redeem himself? Is he hopeless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama had a meeting with Powell. I know that there are those of us who won&#39;t forgive Powell. But, isn&#39;t anyone going to give him the chance to redeem himself? Is he hopeless?</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-165063</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 05:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I see in him a man that is aware of his abilities and one who has little patience for those who don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I see in him a man that is aware of his abilities and one who has little patience for those who don&#39;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-3/#comment-29222</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 04:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen the video of the woman who collapsed and died in the waiting room of the King&#039;s County hospital in New York.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Apparently, she&#039;d been taken to the hospital and was told to wait until a bed became available.....in the waiting room!  One report said she&#039;d been waiting 24 hours, sitting in a chair.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This was a human being, a black woman who collapsed in a waiting room with other black people seated observing.  No one flinched or went over to see if she needed help.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Did anyone else see this?  What do you think?  Did anyone see the vid of the cop who dumped a disabled man from his wheelchair to prove he was faking?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ignorance?&lt;br&gt;Cruelty?&lt;br&gt;Self Hatred?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#39;ve seen the video of the woman who collapsed and died in the waiting room of the King&#39;s County hospital in New York.</p>
<p>Apparently, she&#39;d been taken to the hospital and was told to wait until a bed became available&#8230;..in the waiting room!  One report said she&#39;d been waiting 24 hours, sitting in a chair.</p>
<p>This was a human being, a black woman who collapsed in a waiting room with other black people seated observing.  No one flinched or went over to see if she needed help.</p>
<p>Did anyone else see this?  What do you think?  Did anyone see the vid of the cop who dumped a disabled man from his wheelchair to prove he was faking?</p>
<p>Ignorance?<br />Cruelty?<br />Self Hatred?</p>
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		<title>By: icebergslim</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29224</link>
		<dc:creator>icebergslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much will be redeemed when he endorses Obama.  He is not hopless, he was just hapless.  He did heavy lifting to validate the Iraq War and then saw himself and image kicked to the MF&#039;en curb by the Bush Administration.  When he endorses Obama, he will BLAST the right.  And there are many who admire him, even through what has happened.  Watch Bush&#039;s War, Frontline on PBS.  The story is told THERE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much will be redeemed when he endorses Obama.  He is not hopless, he was just hapless.  He did heavy lifting to validate the Iraq War and then saw himself and image kicked to the MF&#39;en curb by the Bush Administration.  When he endorses Obama, he will BLAST the right.  And there are many who admire him, even through what has happened.  Watch Bush&#39;s War, Frontline on PBS.  The story is told THERE.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29223</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama had a meeting with Powell. I know that there are those of us who won&#039;t forgive Powell. But, isn&#039;t anyone going to give him the chance to redeem himself? Is he hopeless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama had a meeting with Powell. I know that there are those of us who won&#39;t forgive Powell. But, isn&#39;t anyone going to give him the chance to redeem himself? Is he hopeless?</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29283</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree.  I see in him a man that is aware of his abilities and one who has little patience for those who don&#039;t get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree.  I see in him a man that is aware of his abilities and one who has little patience for those who don&#39;t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29247</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, Truthseeker he is a jerk who was forever altered by his circumstances - hence all the anger</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, Truthseeker he is a jerk who was forever altered by his circumstances &#8211; hence all the anger</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29238</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 01:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That would mean that he&#039;s changing and adjusting positions just as we all have.  However, a lie is quite different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That would mean that he&#39;s changing and adjusting positions just as we all have.  However, a lie is quite different.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29262</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, since we want to dig deeper into backgrounds and all....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, since we want to dig deeper into backgrounds and all&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29252</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:32:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it&#039;d be easier for you if you took the positions out of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it&#39;d be easier for you if you took the positions out of it.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29255</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a flip flop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s a flip flop.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29251</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still bogus.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Electing a sheriff and electing a president don&#039;t deserve comparison.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Since you want to hide behind semantics.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still bogus.</p>
<p>Electing a sheriff and electing a president don&#39;t deserve comparison.</p>
<p>Since you want to hide behind semantics.</p>
<p>Foul.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29241</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;click of the &#039;profile&#039; tab&lt;br&gt;click &#039;edit profile&#039;&lt;br&gt;Then change your  &#039;display name&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela,</p>
<p>click of the &#39;profile&#39; tab<br />click &#39;edit profile&#39;<br />Then change your  &#39;display name&#39;</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29261</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 00:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So that&#039;s how you wanna throw down?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You&#039;re foul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So that&#39;s how you wanna throw down?</p>
<p>You&#39;re foul.</p>
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		<title>By: lexusOakland</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29306</link>
		<dc:creator>lexusOakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Al Giordano has an excellent article on the issue of the storm around Barack&#039;s positions these last few days. I was going to paste a paragraph here, but it&#039;s better read in it&#039;s entirety. He talks about &quot;smart dissent&quot; ... quite insightful and provocative. I will indulge in one sentence: &quot;Too many progressive activists suffer from the illusion that if they leverage a candidate during a campaign that getting him or her to say one thing or another will later translate into policy. &quot; The post can be read at: &lt;a href=&quot;http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/smart-dissent&quot;&gt;http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/smart...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Al Giordano has an excellent article on the issue of the storm around Barack&#39;s positions these last few days. I was going to paste a paragraph here, but it&#39;s better read in it&#39;s entirety. He talks about &#8220;smart dissent&#8221; &#8230; quite insightful and provocative. I will indulge in one sentence: &#8220;Too many progressive activists suffer from the illusion that if they leverage a candidate during a campaign that getting him or her to say one thing or another will later translate into policy. &#8221; The post can be read at: <a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/smart-dissent"></a><a href="http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/smart.." rel="nofollow">http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/smart..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CPL</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29264</link>
		<dc:creator>CPL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have long said that I didn&#039;t trust Andrea Mitchell to be objective; she&#039;s a ReThug operative, and she&#039;s married to the guy who lied about the American economy to appease his ReThug supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have long said that I didn&#39;t trust Andrea Mitchell to be objective; she&#39;s a ReThug operative, and she&#39;s married to the guy who lied about the American economy to appease his ReThug supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29250</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But I didn&#039;t say hiring, did I? My sherrif is elected, hence the comparison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But I didn&#39;t say hiring, did I? My sherrif is elected, hence the comparison.</p>
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		<title>By: Brown Man</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/tuesday-open-thread/comment-page-2/#comment-29225</link>
		<dc:creator>Brown Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 21:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I frequent a few sites like Daily Kos - I am TIRED of the LINE IN THE SAND all of these people who have never been elected to a political office in their lives want Obama to draw regarding FISA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They already look at all your emails anyway.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t say it better than I&#039;ve said it here - &lt;a href=&quot;http://simplifythepositive.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;Barack Obama: The Hunchback of Cyberspace&lt;/a&gt; - but my mother would give you the short version: &quot;don&#039;t throw the baby out with the bathwater&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I frequent a few sites like Daily Kos &#8211; I am TIRED of the LINE IN THE SAND all of these people who have never been elected to a political office in their lives want Obama to draw regarding FISA.</p>
<p>They already look at all your emails anyway.  </p>
<p>I can&#39;t say it better than I&#39;ve said it here &#8211; <a href="http://simplifythepositive.blogspot.com/">Barack Obama: The Hunchback of Cyberspace</a> &#8211; but my mother would give you the short version: &#8220;don&#39;t throw the baby out with the bathwater&#8221;.</p>
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