Comments on: The GOP’s New Theme: Those Uppity Obamas http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sun, 22 Nov 2009 09:33:52 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: glory http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-2/#comment-161788 glory Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:59:36 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-161788 Ain't no thing, Big Man. I recognize that it's just a word too. But what disappoints me is that when someone suggests that we refrain from using it, like Nardwilly did, people want to argue over why WE SHOULD use it. On some level that's profoundly disturbing. When others use it, I wish they didn't, but I usually don't say anything because they often don't mean any disrespect - like when you used it at first. It's when people start saying that's what we actually ARE or using stereotypes of us to justify its appropriateness like "nigger behavior," that I have to say my peace. Ain't no thing, Big Man. I recognize that it's just a word too. But what disappoints me is that when someone suggests that we refrain from using it, like Nardwilly did, people want to argue over why WE SHOULD use it. On some level that's profoundly disturbing. When others use it, I wish they didn't, but I usually don't say anything because they often don't mean any disrespect – like when you used it at first. It's when people start saying that's what we actually ARE or using stereotypes of us to justify its appropriateness like “nigger behavior,” that I have to say my peace.

]]> By: glory http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-161791 glory Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:48:49 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-161791 Yes, he was making a point... but he didn't need to use that word to make it. Refraining from using the word does not give it any more power than if you use the word ad nauseum. In this country, it will always mean what it has always meant, no matter how many times people put it in a different context, claiming that they can change its power. The word wasn't necessary to oppress us but it has and will always carry the stain. So why use it? Why affirmatively make the decision to use it? I don't need to use it to keep from giving bigots the satisfaction of a flustered response to it when they use it. I can refrain from the use of the word and still brush racist attempts to use it to offend me off my shoulder like so much lint. When Michael Richards used it, it had no power - it was simply pitiful.<br><br>But when we use it on each other, it is evidence of the power of the oppressors who gave us the word, which remains with us as so intertwined with our image of ourselves that African people are actually arguing for their right to use it and embrace it. Talk about power - talk about a mind job! Its continued use by us is the result of a combination of apathy, internalized hatred, and having bought into the lie that we can change its meaning. Yes, having a funeral for it was asinine. Yes, losing all sense when someone uses it on us is unnecessary and regards the word too personally. But if people really want to strip it of its power, not even bothering to use it would be the very best start. Yes, he was making a point… but he didn't need to use that word to make it. Refraining from using the word does not give it any more power than if you use the word ad nauseum. In this country, it will always mean what it has always meant, no matter how many times people put it in a different context, claiming that they can change its power. The word wasn't necessary to oppress us but it has and will always carry the stain. So why use it? Why affirmatively make the decision to use it? I don't need to use it to keep from giving bigots the satisfaction of a flustered response to it when they use it. I can refrain from the use of the word and still brush racist attempts to use it to offend me off my shoulder like so much lint. When Michael Richards used it, it had no power – it was simply pitiful.

But when we use it on each other, it is evidence of the power of the oppressors who gave us the word, which remains with us as so intertwined with our image of ourselves that African people are actually arguing for their right to use it and embrace it. Talk about power – talk about a mind job! Its continued use by us is the result of a combination of apathy, internalized hatred, and having bought into the lie that we can change its meaning. Yes, having a funeral for it was asinine. Yes, losing all sense when someone uses it on us is unnecessary and regards the word too personally. But if people really want to strip it of its power, not even bothering to use it would be the very best start.

]]> By: GreenLadyHere http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-161790 GreenLadyHere Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:08:59 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-161790 He stopped that mess 2 weeks back: There was ONE/1 e-mail that that wench sent to one of his aides. The aide sent it to Mr. Obama-cause that wench doesn't have his direct e-mail address. Mr. Obama stated that he thanked her for her support - like he thanks anyone else.<br>Among other things, I wonder how much she was paid to create that 'BIT OF DRAMA' Additionally, it was an INSULT to Mrs. Obama! But, that "DRAMA QUEEN" didn't seem to mind! OUTRAGEOUS!!! He stopped that mess 2 weeks back: There was ONE/1 e-mail that that wench sent to one of his aides. The aide sent it to Mr. Obama-cause that wench doesn't have his direct e-mail address. Mr. Obama stated that he thanked her for her support – like he thanks anyone else.
Among other things, I wonder how much she was paid to create that 'BIT OF DRAMA' Additionally, it was an INSULT to Mrs. Obama! But, that “DRAMA QUEEN” didn't seem to mind! OUTRAGEOUS!!!

]]> By: bigassbelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-161787 bigassbelle Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:50:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-161787 Narwilly ~ the idea of "white niggers" is one that's proffered by racists caught in the act of being bigoted assholes. Just for the record, my grandkids are black. Narwilly ~ the idea of “white niggers” is one that's proffered by racists caught in the act of being bigoted assholes. Just for the record, my grandkids are black.

]]> By: bigassbelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-161789 bigassbelle Wed, 09 Jul 2008 19:49:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-161789 but Kenyaw ~ the rumors on <i>that</i> have already started to fly . . . the actress, what's her name? Scarlett Johansen? their "email relationship" has been news on even the huffington post. revolting. but Kenyaw ~ the rumors on that have already started to fly . . . the actress, what's her name? Scarlett Johansen? their “email relationship” has been news on even the huffington post. revolting.

]]> By: glory http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38375 glory Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:59:36 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38375 Ain't no thing, Big Man. I recognize that it's just a word too. But what disappoints me is that when someone suggests that we refrain from using it, like Nardwilly did, people want to argue over why WE SHOULD use it. On some level that's profoundly disturbing. When others use it, I wish they didn't, but I usually don't say anything because they often don't mean any disrespect - like when you used it at first. It's when people start saying that's what we actually ARE or using stereotypes of us to justify its appropriateness like "nigger behavior," that I have to say my peace. Ain't no thing, Big Man. I recognize that it's just a word too. But what disappoints me is that when someone suggests that we refrain from using it, like Nardwilly did, people want to argue over why WE SHOULD use it. On some level that's profoundly disturbing. When others use it, I wish they didn't, but I usually don't say anything because they often don't mean any disrespect – like when you used it at first. It's when people start saying that's what we actually ARE or using stereotypes of us to justify its appropriateness like “nigger behavior,” that I have to say my peace.

]]> By: glory http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38397 glory Wed, 09 Jul 2008 18:48:49 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38397 Yes, he was making a point... but he didn't need to use that word to make it. Refraining from using the word does not give it any more power than if you use the word ad nauseum. In this country, it will always mean what it has always meant, no matter how many times people put it in a different context, claiming that they can change its power. The word wasn't necessary to oppress us but it has and will always carry the stain. So why use it? Why affirmatively make the decision to use it? I don't need to use it to keep from giving bigots the satisfaction of a flustered response to it when they use it. I can refrain from the use of the word and still brush racist attempts to use it to offend me off my shoulder like so much lint. When Michael Richards used it, it had no power - it was simply pitiful.<br><br>But when we use it on each other, it is evidence of the power of the oppressors who gave us the word, which remains with us as so intertwined with our image of ourselves that African people are actually arguing for their right to use it and embrace it. Talk about power - talk about a mind job! Its continued use by us is the result of a combination of apathy, internalized hatred, and having bought into the lie that we can change its meaning. Yes, having a funeral for it was asinine. Yes, losing all sense when someone uses it on us is unnecessary and regards the word too personally. But if people really want to strip it of its power, not even bothering to use it would be the very best start. Yes, he was making a point… but he didn't need to use that word to make it. Refraining from using the word does not give it any more power than if you use the word ad nauseum. In this country, it will always mean what it has always meant, no matter how many times people put it in a different context, claiming that they can change its power. The word wasn't necessary to oppress us but it has and will always carry the stain. So why use it? Why affirmatively make the decision to use it? I don't need to use it to keep from giving bigots the satisfaction of a flustered response to it when they use it. I can refrain from the use of the word and still brush racist attempts to use it to offend me off my shoulder like so much lint. When Michael Richards used it, it had no power – it was simply pitiful.

But when we use it on each other, it is evidence of the power of the oppressors who gave us the word, which remains with us as so intertwined with our image of ourselves that African people are actually arguing for their right to use it and embrace it. Talk about power – talk about a mind job! Its continued use by us is the result of a combination of apathy, internalized hatred, and having bought into the lie that we can change its meaning. Yes, having a funeral for it was asinine. Yes, losing all sense when someone uses it on us is unnecessary and regards the word too personally. But if people really want to strip it of its power, not even bothering to use it would be the very best start.

]]> By: GreenLadyHere http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38380 GreenLadyHere Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:08:59 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38380 He stopped that mess 2 weeks back: There was ONE/1 e-mail that that wench sent to one of his aides. The aide sent it to Mr. Obama-cause that wench doesn't have his direct e-mail address. Mr. Obama stated that he thanked her for her support - like he thanks anyone else.<br>Among other things, I wonder how much she was paid to create that 'BIT OF DRAMA' Additionally, it was an INSULT to Mrs. Obama! But, that "DRAMA QUEEN" didn't seem to mind! OUTRAGEOUS!!! He stopped that mess 2 weeks back: There was ONE/1 e-mail that that wench sent to one of his aides. The aide sent it to Mr. Obama-cause that wench doesn't have his direct e-mail address. Mr. Obama stated that he thanked her for her support – like he thanks anyone else.
Among other things, I wonder how much she was paid to create that 'BIT OF DRAMA' Additionally, it was an INSULT to Mrs. Obama! But, that “DRAMA QUEEN” didn't seem to mind! OUTRAGEOUS!!!

]]> By: bigassbelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38372 bigassbelle Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:50:25 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38372 Narwilly ~ the idea of "white niggers" is one that's proffered by racists caught in the act of being bigoted assholes. Just for the record, my grandkids are black. Narwilly ~ the idea of “white niggers” is one that's proffered by racists caught in the act of being bigoted assholes. Just for the record, my grandkids are black.

]]> By: bigassbelle http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38379 bigassbelle Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:49:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38379 but Kenyaw ~ the rumors on <i>that</i> have already started to fly . . . the actress, what's her name? Scarlett Johansen? their "email relationship" has been news on even the huffington post. revolting. but Kenyaw ~ the rumors on that have already started to fly . . . the actress, what's her name? Scarlett Johansen? their “email relationship” has been news on even the huffington post. revolting.

]]> By: P-niiice http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38376 P-niiice Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:04:31 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38376 I'm cool with it coming from a brother. I just don't let 'others' use it as a weapon against me, and I wish more of us felt that way. I'm cool with it coming from a brother. I just don't let 'others' use it as a weapon against me, and I wish more of us felt that way.

]]> By: P-niiice http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38395 P-niiice Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:51:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38395 There's nothing wrong with refraining to use a word at all. My point is that if it is used, the whole world shouldn't come to a halt while we wait for a verdict from whatever black leader gets the call from CNN. The person who used it just branded themselves as a jackass. Don't encourage them further by giving them the exact reaction they were looking for. <br><br>Through its use, it needs to become a way for idiots to label themselves rather than a way to rile up black people. We need to take the power (over us) out of the word, completely. Then it's use doesn't matter. There's nothing wrong with refraining to use a word at all. My point is that if it is used, the whole world shouldn't come to a halt while we wait for a verdict from whatever black leader gets the call from CNN. The person who used it just branded themselves as a jackass. Don't encourage them further by giving them the exact reaction they were looking for.

Through its use, it needs to become a way for idiots to label themselves rather than a way to rile up black people. We need to take the power (over us) out of the word, completely. Then it's use doesn't matter.

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38382 msmartin Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:55:36 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38382 The picture may be enough, a lot of people don't know about her. The picture may be enough, a lot of people don't know about her.

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38384 msmartin Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:54:13 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38384 I wonder if she's Republican? I wonder if she's Republican?

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38383 msmartin Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:53:26 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38383 I've been wondering about that. I've been wondering about that.

]]> By: My new WordPress MU Site » Blog Archive » The GOP’s New Theme: Those Uppity Obamas http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-23616 My new WordPress MU Site » Blog Archive » The GOP’s New Theme: Those Uppity Obamas Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:17:44 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-23616 [...] Silence Dogood wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMatthews has said stuff like: Is Obama “too University of Chicago or too South Side Chicago” for working-class voters? When the fact of the matter is that Barack and Michelle Obama actually grew up a whole lot closer to the struggles … [...] [...] Silence Dogood wrote an interesting post today onHere’s a quick excerptMatthews has said stuff like: Is Obama “too University of Chicago or too South Side Chicago” for working-class voters? When the fact of the matter is that Barack and Michelle Obama actually grew up a whole lot closer to the struggles … [...]

]]> By: Nardwilly http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38371 Nardwilly Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:16:12 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38371 BigMan,<br><br>We all are responsible for how others respond to our words. If our use creates hurt for others we need to stop.<br><br>"I watched my grandkids' hurt response to an old buzzard at my health club pool who called them "little niggers." I could have killed him."<br><br>This idea of white n----- I do not understand. They are usually called white trash. BigMan,

We all are responsible for how others respond to our words. If our use creates hurt for others we need to stop.

“I watched my grandkids' hurt response to an old buzzard at my health club pool who called them “little niggers.” I could have killed him.”

This idea of white n—– I do not understand. They are usually called white trash.

]]> By: CraigHickman http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38381 CraigHickman Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:07:36 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38381 But will she tell a story? But will she tell a story?

]]> By: CraigHickman http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38393 CraigHickman Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:39:16 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38393 Karl Rove said it. So did Bill Clinton. Said it right in West Virginia in fact. Karl Rove said it. So did Bill Clinton. Said it right in West Virginia in fact.

]]> By: CraigHickman http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/the-gops-new-theme-those-uppity-obamas/comment-page-1/#comment-38405 CraigHickman Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:36:22 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1533#comment-38405 If they listen, and hear, and see, they won't need Barack to do anything to make them understand other than what he's already doing:<br><br>Telling his truth. If they listen, and hear, and see, they won't need Barack to do anything to make them understand other than what he's already doing:

Telling his truth.

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