Comments on: Obama’s Speech To The NAACP http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:41:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: TruthSeeker http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-349099 TruthSeeker Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:10:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-349099 Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,<br><br>Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.<br><br>The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the "preachers" would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.<br><br>I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race...they are human faults.<br><br>I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.<br><br><i>"One last thing--</i> Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,

Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.

The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the “preachers” would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.

I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race…they are human faults.

I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.

“One last thing–

]]> By: kenyaw http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-349098 kenyaw Thu, 17 Jul 2008 09:04:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-349098 Truth,<br>I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done. <br>I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle. <br>He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.<br> <br>Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.<br>With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.<br><br>One last thing-- <br>Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute--I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao Truth,
I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done.
I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle.
He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.

Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.
With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.

One last thing–
Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute–I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao

]]> By: TruthSeeker http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-160208 TruthSeeker Thu, 17 Jul 2008 06:10:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-160208 Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,<br><br>Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.<br><br>The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the "preachers" would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.<br><br>I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race...they are human faults.<br><br>I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.<br><br><i>"One last thing--</i> Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,

Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.

The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the “preachers” would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.

I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race…they are human faults.

I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.

“One last thing–

]]> By: kenyaw http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-160207 kenyaw Thu, 17 Jul 2008 05:04:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-160207 Truth,<br>I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done. <br>I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle. <br>He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.<br> <br>Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.<br>With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.<br><br>One last thing-- <br>Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute--I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao Truth,
I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done.
I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle.
He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.

Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.
With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.

One last thing–
Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute–I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao

]]> By: TruthSeeker http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37796 TruthSeeker Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:10:05 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37796 Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,<br><br>Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.<br><br>The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the "preachers" would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.<br><br>I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race...they are human faults.<br><br>I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.<br><br><i>"One last thing--</i> Thanks for your reply Kenyaw,

Barack's uplifting messages had me soaring. I could feel a definite negative shift in my mood after listening to his first speech.

The phenomenon with your pastor is common. I think we settle into that familiar place of self-criticism and get lazy. Maybe the ones who preach are suffering from the same generalized depression. Depressed people can't get out of bed until they begin to feel better. I wish the “preachers” would make us feel better. I wish they would be inspired and write a love letter as sermon.

I see our faults, I have some myself. I don't want to talk and talk about the faults because it makes me feel bad, and then I don't want to get out of bed, figuratively speaking. And, it is a lie that any faults are inherent to our race…they are human faults.

I want to hear the happy stories that propel us forward with their positive energy.

“One last thing–

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]]> By: kenyaw http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37795 kenyaw Thu, 17 Jul 2008 02:04:27 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37795 Truth,<br>I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done. <br>I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle. <br>He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.<br> <br>Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.<br>With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.<br><br>One last thing-- <br>Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute--I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao Truth,
I agree with you on one point. My cousin and I have this discussion often. I do get tired of black people with a mic not pointing out all of the many wonderful things that blacks have done.
I even get disappointed with my own Pastor for never giving sermons about all of the other positive things our people have accomplished, in the face of the struggle.
He really mad me mad one Sunday when he was trying to make a point, and he made a long reference to MLK and the civil rights movement. I am was thinking, is that all that taught you at Emory University?? Did we not have any other accomplishments of note before 1955 or after 1968.

Black folks started building schools the day after we they legally freed. They ran successful business and whole communities, and invented all types of shit. But, it is as if the only thing we can mention is 1964.
With you taking beyond Obama, I honestly feel where the angst is coming from.

One last thing–
Remember the MLK day sermon that Bishop Vashti McKenzie preached? It was all about dropout rates and all the losers. Again, I am thinking, the “dream” is happening everyday and you can’t find one good thing to tell the world when they are actually paying us some attention. Umm, wait a minute–I think I just talked myself out of every argument that I have made since fathers day. Lol & lmao

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37749 mitch Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:58:06 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37749 We are not making baby steps. This is my point. He has just repackaged what has been thrown at us for decades. I am just fed up with him and all other politicians. Think about one great policy that has been created over the last quarter of a century that has made a big impact. Name one. The reason, we are not able to name any is because being a politician today is about getting rich. The majority come into office either of meager means or middle class status, but walk out of office as wealthy men and women. We are not making baby steps. This is my point. He has just repackaged what has been thrown at us for decades. I am just fed up with him and all other politicians. Think about one great policy that has been created over the last quarter of a century that has made a big impact. Name one. The reason, we are not able to name any is because being a politician today is about getting rich. The majority come into office either of meager means or middle class status, but walk out of office as wealthy men and women.

]]> By: Texas_Girl_in_LA http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37825 Texas_Girl_in_LA Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:07:17 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37825 exactly! exactly!

]]> By: CraigHickman http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37824 CraigHickman Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:56:38 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37824 Yawn. Yawn.

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37742 mitch Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:51:09 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37742 Brown man you are a little clueless to throw white immigrants into this mess. You continue to forget a major issue that impacts us is the color of our skin. All of these groups assimilated into the American mainstream, but changing their names and speech patterns. Yes, that is bad, but a little easier to move into the system in America. My parents were not afforded this opportunity. And, many folks are not afforded this opportunity today. You need to get a clue on this one. Brown man you are a little clueless to throw white immigrants into this mess. You continue to forget a major issue that impacts us is the color of our skin. All of these groups assimilated into the American mainstream, but changing their names and speech patterns. Yes, that is bad, but a little easier to move into the system in America. My parents were not afforded this opportunity. And, many folks are not afforded this opportunity today. You need to get a clue on this one.

]]> By: mitch http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37823 mitch Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:42:18 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37823 Do you actually believe what you are saying? For months, Barack was the darling of the media. Campaign after campaign, the news pundits from MSNBC and CNN just loved the spanking he was providing to Hillary Clinton. They absolutely loved his speeches. He mesmerized all of them. As with any media relationship, sooner or later they are going to have to look into your closet and do a little digging. When that happened, Barack looked a little less glamorous. Also, add in the fact that Hillary kicked his butt time over time in debates did not help. Add to this his poor performance in Philadelphia only created an opportunity. Only station that provided some serious negative coverage on Barack is Fox, which is to be expected. Do you actually believe what you are saying? For months, Barack was the darling of the media. Campaign after campaign, the news pundits from MSNBC and CNN just loved the spanking he was providing to Hillary Clinton. They absolutely loved his speeches. He mesmerized all of them. As with any media relationship, sooner or later they are going to have to look into your closet and do a little digging. When that happened, Barack looked a little less glamorous. Also, add in the fact that Hillary kicked his butt time over time in debates did not help. Add to this his poor performance in Philadelphia only created an opportunity. Only station that provided some serious negative coverage on Barack is Fox, which is to be expected.

]]> By: rikyrah http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37807 rikyrah Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:10:15 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37807 BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA

]]> By: djchefron http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37806 djchefron Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:47:53 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37806 Yes it is .It was called the US Constitution for 170 give or take years. Yes it is .It was called the US Constitution for 170 give or take years.

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37739 msmartin Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:42:10 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37739 I'm not that concerned with how the media represents Barack on the black/responsibility issues as he has not bothered to step up and make clear his position. He puts it out there and leaves it for them to play with. I'm not that concerned with how the media represents Barack on the black/responsibility issues as he has not bothered to step up and make clear his position. He puts it out there and leaves it for them to play with.

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37765 msmartin Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:36:51 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37765 Me too. Me too.

]]> By: msmartin http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37805 msmartin Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:35:38 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37805 Lily, What are you talking about? I didn't say it was Barack's fault. Point is, I have little sympathy for her position that there is no National Association for the Advancement of White People. Lily, What are you talking about? I didn't say it was Barack's fault. Point is, I have little sympathy for her position that there is no National Association for the Advancement of White People.

]]> By: urwrong http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37760 urwrong Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:23:30 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37760 Obama is no differant than the rest. Remember his race speech we are all Americans, well why has he been bashing blacks only? Obama is no differant than the rest. Remember his race speech we are all Americans, well why has he been bashing blacks only?

]]> By: make children s army stuff http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-23670 make children s army stuff Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:21:45 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-23670 [...] up on our behalf of the sacrifices that were made for us by those we never knew and of the gianthttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/Comments, corrections clarifications, and c*ckups - Crikey subscriptionThat fable??s been around for [...] [...] up on our behalf of the sacrifices that were made for us by those we never knew and of the gianthttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/Comments, corrections clarifications, and c*ckups – Crikey subscriptionThat fable??s been around for [...]

]]> By: taritac http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/obamas-speech-to-the-naacp/comment-page-3/#comment-37781 taritac Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:21:03 +0000 http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/?p=1602#comment-37781 Yes, as always, Barack's speech was very good. And as much as I rail against him preaching to us, I don't have any issue with the *idea* of personal responsibility; there is a limit to how much government or other entities can do. I only take issue with the notion that Black people are the only people guilty of eschewing it and need "correction" and with letting government and society off the hook for past and present shortcomings. Yes, as always, Barack's speech was very good. And as much as I rail against him preaching to us, I don't have any issue with the *idea* of personal responsibility; there is a limit to how much government or other entities can do. I only take issue with the notion that Black people are the only people guilty of eschewing it and need “correction” and with letting government and society off the hook for past and present shortcomings.

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