Comments on: Obama and Faith Based Initiatives

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Sun, 07 Aug 2011 05:01:00 +0000

When folks like you say you are a Christian it makes my skin crawl with your lack of understanding of the basic tenets of Christianity. If you are in total disagreement with Jesus Christ that homosexuality is an abomination then don’t tell me you are a Christian. A homosexual can certainly come to know Jesus as his/her Lord and Savior but the first thing one does is REPENT….Repent of our sins and ask the Lord to come into our hearts. If you think that abortion is ok and that the unmericiless slaughter of 53,000,000 (Fifty-three million) defenseless babies is a non issue then you are no more a Christian than Saddam Hussein. We have a GENOCIDE in America that makes anything in history pale. If your heart is so black that you so flippantly disregard these serious, serious issues then just stop saying you are a Christian. God can forgive anything (save blaspheming the Holy Spirit),,,but homosexuals must recognize the sinful life they are leading and repent……just as those women who murdered their unborn babies………….We all have sinned…the difference here is you think these two vile things are not part of repentence…….and that is sad. Even sadder when you think you are being “tolerant”…Jesus was tolerant of SIN…..wake up!

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By: Anderkoo

Anderkoo — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:10:09 +0000

Late to the party here, but as someone strongly committed to secularism, and married to an evangelical faith-based organizer, I not only have no objections to but support this move. I agree with several of the previous comments that the media are incorrectly interpreting this as a move to the “right.” The “right” does not equal religion and the “left” secularity. Some of the craziest, left-wing, outright communist groups have been religious, e.g. liberation theology Catholics.

I do believe that Obama can unite this country, but I'm naive enough to think that unity will last. But I do think that the next time the country divides, it won't be along the current fault lines, and by gosh I want the religious majority to be on MY side next time when it comes to the environment, poverty, fair labor…

By: Jonzee

Jonzee — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:31:48 +0000

ACORN and Common Ground Collective are seen as best practice–not all of ACORNS chapters are…but I digress.

It's clear he does not think that non-profits with religious affiliations will over take, folks like Catholic Charities or Abyssinian Development Corporation.

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By: Anderkoo

Anderkoo — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:10:09 +0000

By: Jonzee

Jonzee — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:31:48 +0000

ACORN and Common Ground Collective are seen as best practice–not all of ACORNS chapters are…but I digress.

It's clear he does not think that non-profits with religious affiliations will over take, folks like Catholic Charities or Abyssinian Development Corporation.

By: Anderkoo

Anderkoo — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:10:09 +0000

By: Jonzee

Jonzee — Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:31:48 +0000

ACORN and Common Ground Collective are seen as best practice–not all of ACORNS chapters are…but I digress.

It's clear he does not think that non-profits with religious affiliations will over take, folks like Catholic Charities or Abyssinian Development Corporation.

By: TruthSeeker

TruthSeeker — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 16:04:25 +0000

Religious faith is the null object of the masses. You can project whatever you want onto it and it will respond…faithfully. Does the paedophile and the preacher worship the same god?

By: CraigHickman

CraigHickman — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:41:40 +0000

A distinction with a difference.

Thanks, RonnieB

By: CraigHickman

CraigHickman — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:40:37 +0000

For the entire campaign Obama has been saying he wants to unite the country. Bring people together. Now he extends an invitation to what mainstream has pigeon holed into the RIGHT and now they say he is courting them only for votes. I think he is doing exactly what he said he was going to do.

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Couldn't agree more.

By: CraigHickman

CraigHickman — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:38:47 +0000

I'm a secularist and I don't have a problem with this. It's who he is. It's how he started community organizing, through churches.

And the Separation of Church and State is mythology in my mind. Folks swear into public office on the Bible, In God We Trust is on our currency, and no atheist could ever be elected president.

Barack's never had a problem with faith-based community organizing and if he didn't introduce something like this, I'd have been more surprised.

By: The_Black_Snob

The_Black_Snob — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 14:30:10 +0000

I'm fine with him wanting to tweak faith-based initiatives (even though I am strongly for a separation of church and state, mainly because too close relations ruins both). I'm more concerned with this move in conjunction with his changes on FISA (immunity for the Telecomm's that broke the law) and some additional moves to the right on issues. While I understand the move to the center in order to make yourself more electable, I don't think these actions necessarily helped past Democratic candidates like John Kerry and Al Gore.

There needs to be clear distinctions between the two party candidates otherwise you end up in Ralph Nader's “Never Neverland” where the two parties become indistinguishable with the exception of a few issues like abortion and maybe social justice separating the two.