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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-163903</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 03:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He ain&#039;t nothing to play with.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You ain&#039;t neva lied.... LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He ain&#39;t nothing to play with.&#8221;</p>
<p>You ain&#39;t neva lied&#8230;. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: carolinagirl</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43255</link>
		<dc:creator>carolinagirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 00:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He ain&#039;t nothing to play with.&quot;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You ain&#039;t neva lied.... LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He ain&#39;t nothing to play with.&#8221;</p>
<p>You ain&#39;t neva lied&#8230;. LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43259</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 19:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...love only goes so far.  They can love them out of office too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;love only goes so far.  They can love them out of office too.</p>
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		<title>By: jelana</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43258</link>
		<dc:creator>jelana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Believe it or not, but a lot of people in Detroit love the mayor and his mother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Believe it or not, but a lot of people in Detroit love the mayor and his mother.</p>
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		<title>By: jelana</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43307</link>
		<dc:creator>jelana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you ever seen this?&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://northstarview.blogspot.com/2007/03/they-didnt-get-memo-that-slavery-was.html/&quot;&gt;They Didn&#039;t Get the Memo that Slavery Was Over&lt;br&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever seen this?<br /><a href="http://northstarview.blogspot.com/2007/03/they-didnt-get-memo-that-slavery-was.html/">They Didn&#39;t Get the Memo that Slavery Was Over<br /></a></p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43294</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I recieved their own words in emails telling me those things, it isn&#039;t imagination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I talk to Gold and Blue Star families who tell me their sons/daughters/husbands/wives believe in what we&#039;re doing there, it isn&#039;t imagination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;When I recieve it in emails from friends-and now, family-who are there currently, it isn&#039;t imagination.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Don&#039;t ever attempt to project what you imagine on me, especially when you have no idea when my information comes from.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If it makes you feel any better, one of my best friends disagrees with me wholeheartedly about the war. We argue about it at least weekly, and I&#039;d still go through hell for him and him for me. Hell, I disagree with smoothie/djchefron here, but I still call them brothers (or sisters, if apporpriate).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I recieved their own words in emails telling me those things, it isn&#39;t imagination.</p>
<p>When I talk to Gold and Blue Star families who tell me their sons/daughters/husbands/wives believe in what we&#39;re doing there, it isn&#39;t imagination.</p>
<p>When I recieve it in emails from friends-and now, family-who are there currently, it isn&#39;t imagination.</p>
<p>Don&#39;t ever attempt to project what you imagine on me, especially when you have no idea when my information comes from.</p>
<p>If it makes you feel any better, one of my best friends disagrees with me wholeheartedly about the war. We argue about it at least weekly, and I&#39;d still go through hell for him and him for me. Hell, I disagree with smoothie/djchefron here, but I still call them brothers (or sisters, if apporpriate).</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43293</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your attempting to use your dead&lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt; to pull rank in a message board is an indication of the value of your friendship.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It is irrelevant what you IMAGINE soldiers believe they are in Iraq to do.  We already KNOW there are no WMD, we already KNOW Iraq was not a threat; therefore, responsible, moral behaviour dictates that the war be brought to an end, quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your attempting to use your dead<i>friends</i> to pull rank in a message board is an indication of the value of your friendship.</p>
<p>It is irrelevant what you IMAGINE soldiers believe they are in Iraq to do.  We already KNOW there are no WMD, we already KNOW Iraq was not a threat; therefore, responsible, moral behaviour dictates that the war be brought to an end, quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did he say to Laraza?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did he say to Laraza?</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43274</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like the article at all. I thought it was a slick hit job. I&#039;ve read Lizza&#039;s earlier writings about Barack and while they&#039;re usually fair, there&#039;s always been something lurking between the lines.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Not this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#39;t like the article at all. I thought it was a slick hit job. I&#39;ve read Lizza&#39;s earlier writings about Barack and while they&#39;re usually fair, there&#39;s always been something lurking between the lines.</p>
<p>Not this time.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43288</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..As I&#039;m watching an interrogation tape of a 15 year old at Guantanamo,  D. attempts to pull rank on me, saying he is more qualified to comment on unjust wars because he&#039;s lost &lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt; in said war.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Friendship&lt;/i&gt; with D. has it&#039;s benefits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..As I&#39;m watching an interrogation tape of a 15 year old at Guantanamo,  D. attempts to pull rank on me, saying he is more qualified to comment on unjust wars because he&#39;s lost <i>friends</i> in said war.</p>
<p><i>Friendship</i> with D. has it&#39;s benefits.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43292</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s your connection to this war? Did you serve? Have you lost anyone-friends, family, or otherwise-there?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And if you did, did any of them tell you that they understood why there were in Iraq/Afghanistan, and what they were there to do, and that they believed in the same?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#39;s your connection to this war? Did you serve? Have you lost anyone-friends, family, or otherwise-there?</p>
<p>And if you did, did any of them tell you that they understood why there were in Iraq/Afghanistan, and what they were there to do, and that they believed in the same?</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43291</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly, people like D. don&#039;t understand.  Because upon having lost &lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt;, people like D. continue to insist on an unjust war so that more &lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt;, husbands, wives, parents are lost in an unjust war.  Or perhaps, their understanding fails to lead to wise conclusion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;People like D. should not make assumptions about the fitness to comment on said injust war, one criteria being whether that person has lost&lt;i&gt;friends&lt;/i&gt; in war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly, people like D. don&#39;t understand.  Because upon having lost <i>friends</i>, people like D. continue to insist on an unjust war so that more <i>friends</i>, husbands, wives, parents are lost in an unjust war.  Or perhaps, their understanding fails to lead to wise conclusion.</p>
<p>People like D. should not make assumptions about the fitness to comment on said injust war, one criteria being whether that person has lost<i>friends</i> in war.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43290</link>
		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like D.-who have lost close friends in Iraq and Afghanistan-probably understand the hell that is war better than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like D.-who have lost close friends in Iraq and Afghanistan-probably understand the hell that is war better than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43269</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He doesn&#039;t have to actually say black people.  He only gives the speech to &quot;black&quot; people.  Read his speech to Laraza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He doesn&#39;t have to actually say black people.  He only gives the speech to &#8220;black&#8221; people.  Read his speech to Laraza</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43299</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>soul stirring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>soul stirring.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43303</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This hurt me down in my soul.  I agree with no ID - until we really discuss this - please withhold instructions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This hurt me down in my soul.  I agree with no ID &#8211; until we really discuss this &#8211; please withhold instructions.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-hello-everyone/comment-page-3/#comment-43257</link>
		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, thanks for the link.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Endorsing her risks ties to her son amid Obama’s promises of a new kind of politics, while not endorsing her risks a big symbolic stiff for the CBC and could jeopardize Obama’s standing in a swing state.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hmm.  Somehow, I don&#039;t think O cares.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;Adolph Mongo, a political analyst and former consultant to Mayor Kilpatrick, said that Obama’s support would be a “tremendous endorsement” for Carolyn Kilpatrick in terms of the good perception it would generate amongst voters. &lt;b&gt;But he suggested it might be more important for Obama.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ha!  So, Obama needs her more than she needs him??  LOL&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;“Barack Obama cannot afford to snub the congresswoman and the mayor,” Mongo said. &lt;b&gt;“The mayor is the only one in Detroit that has the machine to turn out the vote.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone believe that the people of Michigan would care if O snubbed the Mayor and his mother?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, thanks for the link.</p>
<p><i>Endorsing her risks ties to her son amid Obama’s promises of a new kind of politics, while not endorsing her risks a big symbolic stiff for the CBC and could jeopardize Obama’s standing in a swing state.</i></p>
<p>Hmm.  Somehow, I don&#39;t think O cares.</p>
<p><i>Adolph Mongo, a political analyst and former consultant to Mayor Kilpatrick, said that Obama’s support would be a “tremendous endorsement” for Carolyn Kilpatrick in terms of the good perception it would generate amongst voters. <b>But he suggested it might be more important for Obama.</b></i></p>
<p>Ha!  So, Obama needs her more than she needs him??  LOL</p>
<p><i>“Barack Obama cannot afford to snub the congresswoman and the mayor,” Mongo said. <b>“The mayor is the only one in Detroit that has the machine to turn out the vote.”</b></i><i></p>
<p>Does anyone believe that the people of Michigan would care if O snubbed the Mayor and his mother?</i></p>
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		<title>By: Texas_Girl_in_LA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas_Girl_in_LA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mac had a family show on tv that lasted for a while. He knows how to make it family friendly and when to let loose...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, </p>
<p>Mac had a family show on tv that lasted for a while. He knows how to make it family friendly and when to let loose&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do wonder if this will finally get Michelle Obama a mention at my guilty pleasure  site- The Black Socialite?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just wondering. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do wonder if this will finally get Michelle Obama a mention at my guilty pleasure  site- The Black Socialite?</p>
<p>Just wondering. </p>
<p>LOL</p>
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