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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-164630</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a tenor. We need a bass and a soprano for starters and maybe a baritone, a contralto, and a mezzo.</description>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-46106</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 10:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a tenor. We need a bass and a soprano for starters and maybe a baritone, a contralto, and a mezzo.</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-46105</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sing along with me:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes. Multi-part harmony on this. All those voices together.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I love great singing harmony.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, it&#039;s true.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;!!!!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m sort of an alto.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sing along with me:</p>
<p>John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.</i></p>
<p>Yes. Multi-part harmony on this. All those voices together.</p>
<p>I love great singing harmony.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#39;s true.</p>
<p><b>John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.</b></p>
<p>!!!!</p>
<p>I&#39;m sort of an alto.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-45997</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>djchefron  - Truly!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have been thinking about this too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s not just about Petraeus, IMO. It also goes to McCain trying to associate military experience with fitness to be Commander in Chief. It looks &quot;ok&quot; to make such an association (oooh, military = Commander in Chief) only because of ignorance or willful disregard for the fact that Commander in Chief is deliberately a civilian post.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway, I remember Senator Obama&#039;s marvelous clarity in one of the debates where he said that the Commander in Chief sets the mission. That was solid stuff -- he is clear on what&#039;s what IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djchefron  &#8211; Truly!</p>
<p>I have been thinking about this too.</p>
<p>It&#39;s not just about Petraeus, IMO. It also goes to McCain trying to associate military experience with fitness to be Commander in Chief. It looks &#8220;ok&#8221; to make such an association (oooh, military = Commander in Chief) only because of ignorance or willful disregard for the fact that Commander in Chief is deliberately a civilian post.</p>
<p>Anyway, I remember Senator Obama&#39;s marvelous clarity in one of the debates where he said that the Commander in Chief sets the mission. That was solid stuff &#8212; he is clear on what&#39;s what IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-46108</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 00:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first debate in Mississippi.</description>
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		<title>By: Town</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-46117</link>
		<dc:creator>Town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got the intention of your blog, because it was so over the top.  LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got the intention of your blog, because it was so over the top.  LOL</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-45911</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:50:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_military_execution_9&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: eclecticbrotha</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-5/#comment-46003</link>
		<dc:creator>eclecticbrotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget the fact Petraeus is paying off the militias so they won&#039;t shoot Americans and the ethnically cleansed - oops, I mean &quot;soft partitioned&quot; - the neighborhoods so the warring factions would be separated from one another. I wonder how long he thinks he can keep that up....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#39;t forget the fact Petraeus is paying off the militias so they won&#39;t shoot Americans and the ethnically cleansed &#8211; oops, I mean &#8220;soft partitioned&#8221; &#8211; the neighborhoods so the warring factions would be separated from one another. I wonder how long he thinks he can keep that up&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:35:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watching McCrank on CNN - he&#039;s such a liar.  Larry King of course let him slide on all his lies and criticisms of Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watching McCrank on CNN &#8211; he&#39;s such a liar.  Larry King of course let him slide on all his lies and criticisms of Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: eclecticbrotha</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-4/#comment-46107</link>
		<dc:creator>eclecticbrotha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We need to start a pool about how long before McCain let&#039;s a racial ephitet slip in an interview. The way he&#039;s letting his anger get the best of him its only a matter of time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to start a pool about how long before McCain let&#39;s a racial ephitet slip in an interview. The way he&#39;s letting his anger get the best of him its only a matter of time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: msmartin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-4/#comment-46042</link>
		<dc:creator>msmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TruthSpeaker!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I can&#039;t reconcile the thought that God would say no to the starving and helpless, those living horrific lives and no ability to change them and the fact that he apparently has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TruthSpeaker!</p>
<p>I can&#39;t reconcile the thought that God would say no to the starving and helpless, those living horrific lives and no ability to change them and the fact that he apparently has.</p>
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		<title>By: goc</title>
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		<dc:creator>goc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone watching McCain on larry king?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I like to joke about how anything is possible in America cause I graduated third from bottom position in my navy class. Yeah its a great country. C yale-legacy students can also become president. And people who graduate top of their Harvard Law School class can become president .... oh wait never mind they arn&#039;t qualified and are elitist. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Asswipe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone watching McCain on larry king?</p>
<p>I like to joke about how anything is possible in America cause I graduated third from bottom position in my navy class. Yeah its a great country. C yale-legacy students can also become president. And people who graduate top of their Harvard Law School class can become president &#8230;. oh wait never mind they arn&#39;t qualified and are elitist. </p>
<p>Asswipe.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Obama is doing a good job at discrediting himself, and after this eye-opener it appears he clearly needs no help. The photo ops were the giveaway, especially at that Wall…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Obama is doing a good job at discrediting himself, and after this eye-opener it appears he clearly needs no help. The photo ops were the giveaway, especially at that Wall…</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-4/#comment-46104</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He wants to inject race directly into the campaign.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It was only a matter of time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sing along with me:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He wants to inject race directly into the campaign.</p>
<p>It was only a matter of time.</p>
<p>Sing along with me:</p>
<p>John McCain is UNFIT to be POTUS.</p>
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		<title>By: purplehawk</title>
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		<dc:creator>purplehawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 23:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here.  My very bright kids went to Duke and Harvard, and then on to professional degrees in medicine and law.  They were National Merit Scholars coming out of high school.  I got so tired of white people posing &quot;just interested&quot; questions as to whether or not they were National Achievement Scholars or &quot;the real thing.&quot;  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;McCain is coming out against Affirmative Action, another flip from where he was 10 years ago.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-27-mccain_N.htm&quot;&gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2...&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here.  My very bright kids went to Duke and Harvard, and then on to professional degrees in medicine and law.  They were National Merit Scholars coming out of high school.  I got so tired of white people posing &#8220;just interested&#8221; questions as to whether or not they were National Achievement Scholars or &#8220;the real thing.&#8221;  </p>
<p>McCain is coming out against Affirmative Action, another flip from where he was 10 years ago.  <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-27-mccain_N.htm"></a><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2.." rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2..</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/28/181811/924/958/558410&quot;&gt;TN Shooter Influenced by Right-Wing Pundits&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/28/181811/924/958/558410">TN Shooter Influenced by Right-Wing Pundits</a></p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/07/monday-open-thread-2/comment-page-4/#comment-45961</link>
		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comment from the first article:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;i&gt;You&#039;re kidding, right, Zvika?  Because nobody with a functioning cerebral cortex could possibly be taking this seriously.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, what... the Obama campaign &quot;approved the prayer for publication&quot; and went to the trouble to pre-crease it?  How cunning!  You&#039;ll also note that Yediot Aharonot says it &quot;obtained&quot; the note, but didn&#039;t publish it out of respect for Obama&#039;s privacy.  So they decided to respect the privacy of the candidate that leaked it to them?  What a fascinating manner of dealing with leaks!  Also, they didn&#039;t say that they obtained the note FROM HIS CAMPAIGN.  An important detail to notice, Zvika.  Makes you seem more... I dunno... intellectually honest and professionally rigorous.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, one other charming detail... the Ma&#039;ariv spokesman apparently thinks that this is all a moot point, since a goy like Obama doesn&#039;t deserve to have to privacy of his prayers respected in the first place.  Kind of undercuts his legitimacy, don&#039;t ya think?  But you didn&#039;t bother to mention that, did you, Zvika?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Good to know that TNR isn&#039;t suffering from a hack shortage.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;::&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Ma&#039;ariv is protecting itself and it&#039;s lie is all too transparent.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Someone is simply looking for another way to discredit Barack because his trip was such a success and someone simply can&#039;t stand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment from the first article:</p>
<p><i>You&#39;re kidding, right, Zvika?  Because nobody with a functioning cerebral cortex could possibly be taking this seriously.</p>
<p>So, what&#8230; the Obama campaign &#8220;approved the prayer for publication&#8221; and went to the trouble to pre-crease it?  How cunning!  You&#39;ll also note that Yediot Aharonot says it &#8220;obtained&#8221; the note, but didn&#39;t publish it out of respect for Obama&#39;s privacy.  So they decided to respect the privacy of the candidate that leaked it to them?  What a fascinating manner of dealing with leaks!  Also, they didn&#39;t say that they obtained the note FROM HIS CAMPAIGN.  An important detail to notice, Zvika.  Makes you seem more&#8230; I dunno&#8230; intellectually honest and professionally rigorous.</p>
<p>Also, one other charming detail&#8230; the Ma&#39;ariv spokesman apparently thinks that this is all a moot point, since a goy like Obama doesn&#39;t deserve to have to privacy of his prayers respected in the first place.  Kind of undercuts his legitimacy, don&#39;t ya think?  But you didn&#39;t bother to mention that, did you, Zvika?</p>
<p>Good to know that TNR isn&#39;t suffering from a hack shortage.  <br /></i></p>
<p>::</p>
<p>The Ma&#39;ariv is protecting itself and it&#39;s lie is all too transparent.</p>
<p>Someone is simply looking for another way to discredit Barack because his trip was such a success and someone simply can&#39;t stand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s more: &lt;a href=&quot;http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13021.htm&quot;&gt;Paper, rapped for outing Obama note, claims campaign pre-approved leak&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;i&gt;&quot;What initially seemed to be a journalistic scoop of dubious moral propriety now seems to be a case of an Israeli paper being played by the Barack Obama campaign.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; Wonder if MSM will report this? Probably not...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s more: <a href="http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13021.htm">Paper, rapped for outing Obama note, claims campaign pre-approved leak</a>. <i>&#8220;What initially seemed to be a journalistic scoop of dubious moral propriety now seems to be a case of an Israeli paper being played by the Barack Obama campaign.&#8221;</i> Wonder if MSM will report this? Probably not&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A “conspiracy”? &lt;b&gt;Nope!&lt;/b&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/28/is-anything-sacred.aspx&quot;&gt;Is Anything Sacred?&lt;/a&gt; …&lt;i&gt;the Obama campaign actually leaked the note to reporters before Obama even placed it in the wall.&lt;/i&gt; A quote from &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&amp;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&quot;&gt;Ma&#039;ariv&lt;/a&gt;: &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;“Barack Obama&#039;s note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel (Western Wall), a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.”&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt; It was a photo op…fully staged, and has now backfired…OOPS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A “conspiracy”? <b>Nope!</b> <a href="http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/28/is-anything-sacred.aspx">Is Anything Sacred?</a> …<i>the Obama campaign actually leaked the note to reporters before Obama even placed it in the wall.</i> A quote from <a href="http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1215331112489&#038;pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull">Ma&#39;ariv</a>: <i><b>“Barack Obama&#39;s note was approved for publication in the international media even before he put in the Kotel (Western Wall), a short time after he wrote it at the King David Hotel in Jerusalem.”</b></i> It was a photo op…fully staged, and has now backfired…OOPS!</p>
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		<title>By: CraigHickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>CraigHickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a  href=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/28/182731/449/931/558413&quot;&gt;Former Ramstein Medical Chief Rips New McCain Ad&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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