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1) “You already pay the taxes. The question is in how those taxes are utilized. I think there is a definite meanness component in Conservative ideology. They believe in punishment and shame as motivation for good behaviour.”

First of all, I think that it is a generalization to say that there is a component of “meanness” in conservative ideology. How is it “mean” to expect people to take care of themselves? And again, I go back to the fact that people are well aware that they have to pay taxes to provide for infrastructure, security, etc. but many people do NOT want their tax money to go to programs that are enabling bad behavior, which they see as a dependent relationship on government assistance. I was focusing my comments on Black people, but this goes for everyone. And I will speak for myself. I don't want the money that I make at my job to go to someone who doesn't know how or doesn't try to take care of themselves. I guess that makes me mean, but that's fine.

“Not even the extremely wealthy are completely self-sufficient. They require infrastructure and the civilization it fosters in order to survive.”

Of course no one is absolutely self-sufficient. But people just want to take it back to the basics, and not throw in a lot of social programs that are doing more harm than good.

“It's in everyone's best interest to ensure that those people are fed and cared for. As a matter of fact, it's a bargain! If not, then that person will flounder, they may turn to crime, they may take someone's life, they may end up in jail.”

That's just the point. It's in YOUR best interest to make sure that you are fed and cared for NOT the government. I refuse to subscribe to the belief that people can just be lax and irresponsible in their personal decision making, but its okay because its in everyone's best interest that they land on their feet so we should just pitch in and help them out. Um no. We need to go to the root of the problem. And the root of the problem is that people need to make better decisions for themselves and take more initiative to invest in their future. If you feel that your schools are inadequate, form a group/organization and petition the school board/hang out in the library as much as you can/or move. If you feel that you need more money to live comfortably, look for ways to get training or more education or get another job. And if you can't afford to have children right away, either invest in sound birth control methods or abstain. These are things that individuals can do that have nothing to do with the government, but can change people's quality of life significantly.

And when has poverty become an excuse for criminality? And how is that a bargaining chip? I should support these paternalistic social programs that I don't agree with, or these people may end up robbing/killing me later? Again, I think it shifts the argument to the wrong group of people. Instead of shaming others into thinking that it is their duty to take care of everyone in this way, we should be encouraging people to find ways to take care of themselves.

“Maybe Conservatives need to acquire some wisdom and understanding to go with their prejudice and greed.” This is another generalization. Just because many conservatives believe in self-sufficiency doesn't make them prejudiced. And just because people want to make sure the money in their pocket doesn't go to certain social programs doesn't make them greedy.

But to sum up, I think we can agree to disagree.

That argument hasn't been made with supportive facts and evidence. So, it is more of a 'prejudice' rather than an argument. It's like saying black people are lazy …but never providing measurement of their laziness in comparison to any other race. You already pay the taxes. The question is in how those taxes are utilized. I think there is a definite meanness component in Conservative ideology. They believe in punishment and shame as motivation for good behaviour.
Not even the extremely wealthy are completely self-sufficient. They require infrastructure and the civilization it fosters in order to survive.

“..And the next person doesn't make wise decisions, or fails to properly
plan for a child, and then seeks government assistance in the form of
food stamps, welfare, etc. when they can't make ends meet Many people
feel that these types of programs are encouraging bad behaviour.”

It's in everyone's best interest to ensure that those people are fed and cared for. As a matter of fact, it's a bargain! If not, then that person will flounder, they may turn to crime, they may take someone's life, they may end up in jail. At each step, taxes will be used to bring them to justice, and punish them. It is far cheaper to provide food and housing. The problem is, that even food and housing is used to shame and punish the recipients. It is not the government's job to use the necessities of life to punish and mitigate “behaviour”. It is the government's job to make sure we maintain our civilization and keep ALL people moving forward.

“So when people look at their situation, and understand that they made
sacrifices to live comfortably, to simply say that it is selfish to
expect someone else to do the same is short sighted.”

It's short-sighted to preoccupy ourselves with what someone else does. There are bigger fish to fry. I don't care what choices they've made, I care that they have the opportunity to change course and move forward…whatever that takes. Maybe Conservatives need to acquire some wisdom and understanding to go with their prejudice and greed.

Say for example, I wait to have children until I am married and have two incomes, or I am single with a significant income to support that child. And the next person doesn't make wise decisions, or fails to properly plan for a child, and then seeks government assistance in the form of food stamps, welfare, etc. when they can't make ends meet Many people feel that these types of programs are encouraging bad behavior. That instead of restraint, responsibility, and sound financial planning, people are getting themselves into situations that they are ill equipped to handle and then turning to government assistance to fill in the gaps (this is a generalization, I realize there are exceptions). So when people look at their situation, and understand that they made sacrifices to live comfortably, to simply say that it is selfish to expect someone else to do the same is short sighted. Yes, we live in a collective society, but ultimately we have to take care of ourselves.

Your pay cheque pays for an unjust war. I don't hear a great outcry from Conservatives especially….the ones who are averse to taxes.

The model they propose has been tried before. It was called the Dark Ages. The advent of government, social programs, unions, law enforcement, health care system, fire department, public school, has brought us to our present civilization.

Now that we have reaped the benefit of that civilization, we look askance at the very institution that has made it possible: Government and taxation.

Now that we've made it safely out of infancy, have gone to the schools that others have helped build (surely your parents tax dollars alone were not sufficient to educate you) we look suspiciously at taxes.

It is meanness. Selfishness. Small-mindedness.

And as far as program funding, it might take a will, but it also takes money. And plenty of people are not happy that their paychecks are constantly being sliced and diced to support government programs. I think a total overhaul is needed, and some of these programs should be cut. And is the war really a good analogy? We are in a huge deficit right now because of it, and we are going to pass it on to our children.

You say “it” in reference to goverment as if it forms an entity of it's own, with it's own rights that need to be protected. I say “us” in reference to government. Government is a tool.

As for program funding…all it takes is will. You've waged a 5 year war in a sovereign country that was not a threat. The Iraq war has lasted longer than the 2nd world war. There was a will to invade Iraq.

And to address your responses below, the government does represent its citizens, but we in should no way be looking for it to take care of our children. It's about proper planning. And where is the money going to come from to sustain these programs? I honestly think that within the next 10 years or so, a lot of these programs are going to be cut altogether, which should give plenty of people an incentive to take initiative.

Obama and McCain have both committed to total amnesty (with a token “back taxes” payment of maybe $3000 – chump change) of illegals and to letting them stay in America and keep working AND to bring their families here.

This is going to be a devastating blow to our already overburdened now-multilingual school systems, welfare systems, and medical systems.

Obama, as a member of the Democratic Party (which 40 years ago was the working class party) can probably be worked on better than McCain. And he should be.

As Booker T. Washington explained, America has a duty to black folks and ought to “cast down its bucket” right here in the black community rather than inviting aliens of questionable (or no) loyalty to this country. See:

http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/88.

Which also has a recording of Mr. Washington giving that portion of his speech in Atlanta,1895.

Mexicans are not going to stop sneaking illegals into the USA and protecting them.

issues of privacy notwithstanding (and i daresay any person abandoned by their father probably always owns a little “angst”) , it's about time that parental responsibility gets a national stage. sweeping it under the rug has not worked well.

an aside: reading about your fundraiser made me HUNGRY!!!

http://docsouth.unc.edu/fpn/washeducation/washi…

2) Here is the breakdown by race of the American problem:

The nation's out-of-wedlock birth rate is 38%. Among white children, 28% are now born to a single mother; among Hispanic children it is 50% and reaches a chilling, disorienting peak of 71% for black children. According to the National Center for Health Statistics, nearly a quarter of America's white children (22%) do not have any male in their homes; nearly a third (31%) of Hispanic children and over half of black children (56%) are fatherless.

So by shear numbers, yes it is an American problem. But if you are going to single out any race to make a point the one with alarming statistics may be the one that you reference in your speech.