Jack & Jill Politics

So now Andrew Sullivan wants Barack to give a speech to Parents and Friends of Gays and Lesbians (PFLAG) before the general election?

Every single interest group in the nation is making all sorts of “historical” demands on Barack.

I guess people really do believe he’s a messiah.

I a single presidential campaign, he’s supposed to save the nation from all of its divisions just by giving a speech?

Make no mistake, if Barack gave such a speech I would applaud him. Just as I would applaud him for giving a faith speech that confronted Muslim discrimination for what it is.

But.

Can the man get elected first?

Of course Barack is the product of a union that was considered illegal in many states when he was born. But what if, just what if, he honestly doesn’t believe in full marriage equality?

My mother doesn’t, and she still came to my wedding. She still calls Job her son. My father didn’t and he still sang at my wedding. And he always called Job his son.

Maybe I just don’t need the Democratic nominee to make any more history than he’s already made in his attempt to get elected to the Oval Office.

But that’s me.

Maybe I need a break from this election.

D,

Question about the rape verdict. Can one see this from the perspective of now, that the Rapist has raped the kid, knowing that death awaits him or her, what motive is there for keeping the kid alive?

Im not going to say, as a parent, I woudlnt want the worst thing imaginable to happen to the offender, but not knowing the rationale of a rapist, I can say I dont want the worst imaginable thing happening to my child as a result…

Also, what constitutes a child? Does the Supreme Court mandate a national law for this? Ive seen consent laws ruin Military Careers when I served in the Navy. I’d hope that any decision that involves the topic of Rape also includes the topic of age and consent

Rhonda,

Couldnt agree more. I was a HUGE SWV fan.

Smoothie,
Damn squid.

I see the point. Since my son’s so young, it’s hard for me to look at it from the perspective you suggest.

I almost want to say that I don’t care about what the rapist might be thinking; he’s earned his ticket to hell, and we should expedite the trip as much as possible.

I think most states have consent laws, but I don’t think you could legally define a child without also defining other age groups.

I hope they get the 2nd Amendment case right tomorrow, but with this court, I’m kinda doubtful there….

d.,
Why don’t you want to talk about Iraq today? Do you think that not talking about it will make it go away? Out of sight out of mind? I don’t blame you righty’s for not wanting to talk about Iraq. I wouldn’t want to talk about it either.

As for McCain and Imus, McCain was the first guest Imus had on his show when he returned to radio after the “nappy headed hoe’s” incident. McCain was a regular guest on Imus’show. McCain needs to renounce and reject the same thing Obama had to renounce and reject. You ask what McCain has to reject and renounce, what did Obama have to reject and renounce?

d.,

I agree. totally. I’m tired of this guilt by association. Part of the reason I’m glad Obama and crew didn’t ask for Black’s head after the terrorist attack comment.

As to the supreme court case. If I’m correct only 9 states allowed for the death of child rapists. Given the courts movement in limiting capital punishment in recent years this outcome makes sense.

The offense in question is beyond horrible and whenever children are involved I think we’re more apt to raw vengeance. I will say that one thing my catholic up-bringing left me was a distrust of vengeance and belief that life should never be discarded, despite human ills.

Anon,
Aren’t you the same anon poster who asked that question-and got an answer-a day or two ago?

If so, please go back and read what I wrote then.

Guilt by association worked for Hagee/Parsley. It’s not gonna fly here. Hell, if it were that big a deal-if you really “needed” McCain to “renounce and reject” Imus, why didn’t you say something when he went on the show?

You know, no one-even bastions of liberalism such as Media Matters-really cares about this one.

And I’m gonna sin against JJP and invoke the words of Bill O’Reilly on this one:

If another big racial controversy erupts in America, even though Obama’s not involved, it focuses people on black-white issues. The Reverend Wright controversy obviously set back Barack Obama. Everybody knows that. And savvy folks also understand the less race stuff the better, as far as Obama is concerned.

What say you?

d.,
I say there is more than a whiff of hyprocrisy. What say you?

It’s a non starter for Imus but not Reverend Wright.

Michelle,

I read that interview when it came out. And had no problem with it at all.

If a presidential candidate can say, “I don’t believe in gay marriage, but I’ll leave it up to individual states to figure out” then fine.

At least he wants to repeal all of DOMA and keep the issue out of the Constitution.

I don’t always agree with Andrew Sullivan, but I’ve never known him to be this silly.

d,

The list of concerns about Obama are valid but I am surprised to find how easily they are overlooked, not addressed or defended.