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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Open Thread- One more day til the weekend</title>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/poll_suggests_obama_is_putting.php&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;North Carolina- In Play?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/06/poll_suggests_obama_is_putting.php" REL="nofollow">North Carolina- In Play?</a></p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11041.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rezko: Feds Pushed for Dirt on Obama&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0608/11041.html" REL="nofollow">Rezko: Feds Pushed for Dirt on Obama</a></p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/12/1134992.aspx&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama&#039;s Bump&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/12/1134992.aspx" REL="nofollow">Obama&#8217;s Bump</a></p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama moves DNC Operations to Chicago&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html" REL="nofollow">Obama moves DNC Operations to Chicago</a></p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it was for security..I can&#039;t recall where I saw that..so don&#039;t hold me absolutely to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it was for security..I can&#8217;t recall where I saw that..so don&#8217;t hold me absolutely to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-one-more-day-til-the-weekend-2/comment-page-1/#comment-20758</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Do they use computers in the oval office? I read somewhere that Presidents can&#039;t use e-mail.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No freaking way! Really? Like what, lack of connection infrastructure in the oval office or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Do they use computers in the oval office? I read somewhere that Presidents can&#8217;t use e-mail.</i></p>
<p>No freaking way! Really? Like what, lack of connection infrastructure in the oval office or what?</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh heh, isonprize..I read that yesterday.  Do they use computers in the oval office?  I read somewhere that Presidents can&#039;t use e-mail.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;out of touch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh heh, isonprize..I read that yesterday.  Do they use computers in the oval office?  I read somewhere that Presidents can&#8217;t use e-mail.  </p>
<p>out of touch.</p>
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		<title>By: isonprize</title>
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		<dc:creator>isonprize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did the MSM miss this one, hmmm?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_Admits_He_Doesn_t_Know_How_To_Use_A_Computer&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;McCain is clueless about computers&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did the MSM miss this one, hmmm?</p>
<p><a HREF="http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/McCain_Admits_He_Doesn_t_Know_How_To_Use_A_Computer" REL="nofollow">McCain is clueless about computers</a></p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh sweet Jesus...Wolf says Lou Dobbs may run for Governor.  Was there anyone who didn&#039;t know that his show was a vehicle for political office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh sweet Jesus&#8230;Wolf says Lou Dobbs may run for Governor.  Was there anyone who didn&#8217;t know that his show was a vehicle for political office.</p>
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		<title>By: isonprize</title>
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		<dc:creator>isonprize</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the definition of &#039;expert German dollmaker&#039;?    &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;From Speigel (German paper)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,558768,00.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;German Toymaker Launches Barack Obama Doll&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also, don&#039;t you just love the mildly  menacing picture of Obama, next to Clinton and McCain.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Clinton is still in the picture because...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the definition of &#8216;expert German dollmaker&#8217;?    </p>
<p>From Speigel (German paper)<br /><a HREF="http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,558768,00.html" REL="nofollow">German Toymaker Launches Barack Obama Doll</a></p>
<p>Also, don&#8217;t you just love the mildly  menacing picture of Obama, next to Clinton and McCain.  </p>
<p>Clinton is still in the picture because&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone remembers that Bruce Dixon mentioned that BAR was planning to re-publish an analysis about organizing and Obama&#039;s campaign this week -- they did, and I think it&#039;s well worth reading! &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&amp;task=view&amp;id=654&amp;Itemid=1&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Campaign Obamizing VS Community Organizing?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t agree with all of it, but IMO it&#039;s really really good, in a critical, raising important questions kind of way. I also put a comment in there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=BEF8005DADF0B9A0E9945A21BFA7E0F5?diaryId=6111&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;And -- the original article with more discussion in the comments is here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone remembers that Bruce Dixon mentioned that BAR was planning to re-publish an analysis about organizing and Obama&#8217;s campaign this week &#8212; they did, and I think it&#8217;s well worth reading! </p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.blackagendareport.com/index.php?option=com_content&#038;task=view&#038;id=654&#038;Itemid=1" REL="nofollow">Campaign Obamizing VS Community Organizing?</a></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t agree with all of it, but IMO it&#8217;s really really good, in a critical, raising important questions kind of way. I also put a comment in there.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=BEF8005DADF0B9A0E9945A21BFA7E0F5?diaryId=6111" REL="nofollow">And &#8212; the original article with more discussion in the comments is here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view.bg?articleid=1100394&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[Deval] Patrick’s daughter says she’s gay; Dad says he’s proud&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Posted because it makes my heart happy to read this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://news.bostonherald.com/news/regional/politics/view.bg?articleid=1100394" REL="nofollow">[Deval] Patrick’s daughter says she’s gay; Dad says he’s proud</a></p>
<p>Posted because it makes my heart happy to read this.</p>
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		<title>By: honey01</title>
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		<dc:creator>honey01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous at 6:54, GTFOH with that &quot;In other words, the voters in Chicago concurred with Rush that Obama was not experienced enough or accomplished enough to be their Congressman in 2000. Seven and a half years later, we&#039;re told he&#039;s ready to be commander-in-chief.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As a lifelong resident of Chicago and who lives in Bobby Rush district, I can tell you he has tremendous respect and name recognition. Obama&#039;s previous loss was not a vote against Obama but rather a vote for a man who is respected by many. Rush&#039;s many efforts on behalf of civil rights are lauded in the Black community. Even as a child I knew who Bobby Rush was. My Dad always pointed him out on the streets of Chicago and made sure I knew about various political figures in Chicago. This is similar to Obama&#039;s current situation in terms of of running against candidates with name recognition. Of course, this does not apply to the majority of Appalachian voters who I believe were voting against the Black man, ie. voting against their economic interests.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And to be honest with you, I like many who initially bought into the Clinton mystique. We thought we &quot;knew them and their baggage&quot;, we bought her line of lifelong  experience, and &quot;ready from day one&quot;. Who was exactly this Barack. As we got to know him over the course of the campaign, as we heard more about his experience (and sorry that includes his full resume, as Hillary and her supporters like to claim for her), his brilliant mind and commitment, yeah we realized he had the right stuff. I will take it a step further and say for African-Americans we realized gdammit he could actually win this thing. Let&#039;s not the most forget the most influential factor in the changing tide, the racebaiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous at 6:54, GTFOH with that &#8220;In other words, the voters in Chicago concurred with Rush that Obama was not experienced enough or accomplished enough to be their Congressman in 2000. Seven and a half years later, we&#8217;re told he&#8217;s ready to be commander-in-chief.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a lifelong resident of Chicago and who lives in Bobby Rush district, I can tell you he has tremendous respect and name recognition. Obama&#8217;s previous loss was not a vote against Obama but rather a vote for a man who is respected by many. Rush&#8217;s many efforts on behalf of civil rights are lauded in the Black community. Even as a child I knew who Bobby Rush was. My Dad always pointed him out on the streets of Chicago and made sure I knew about various political figures in Chicago. This is similar to Obama&#8217;s current situation in terms of of running against candidates with name recognition. Of course, this does not apply to the majority of Appalachian voters who I believe were voting against the Black man, ie. voting against their economic interests.</p>
<p>And to be honest with you, I like many who initially bought into the Clinton mystique. We thought we &#8220;knew them and their baggage&#8221;, we bought her line of lifelong  experience, and &#8220;ready from day one&#8221;. Who was exactly this Barack. As we got to know him over the course of the campaign, as we heard more about his experience (and sorry that includes his full resume, as Hillary and her supporters like to claim for her), his brilliant mind and commitment, yeah we realized he had the right stuff. I will take it a step further and say for African-Americans we realized gdammit he could actually win this thing. Let&#8217;s not the most forget the most influential factor in the changing tide, the racebaiting.</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The detainees in GTMO have been given habeus corpus protection by the Supreme Court.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;i&gt;In its third rebuke of the Bush administration&#039;s treatment of prisoners, the court ruled 5-4 that the government is violating the rights of prisoners being held indefinitely and without charges at the U.S. naval base in Cuba. The court&#039;s liberal justices were in the majority.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts criticized his colleagues for striking down what he called &quot;the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas also dissented.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Scalia said the nation is &quot;at war with radical Islamists&quot; and that the court&#039;s decision &quot;will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter and John Paul Stevens joined Kennedy to form the majority.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The detainees in GTMO have been given habeus corpus protection by the Supreme Court.</p>
<p><i>In its third rebuke of the Bush administration&#8217;s treatment of prisoners, the court ruled 5-4 that the government is violating the rights of prisoners being held indefinitely and without charges at the U.S. naval base in Cuba. The court&#8217;s liberal justices were in the majority.</p>
<p>In dissent, Chief Justice John Roberts criticized his colleagues for striking down what he called &#8220;the most generous set of procedural protections ever afforded aliens detained by this country as enemy combatants.&#8221;</p>
<p>Justices Samuel Alito, Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas also dissented.</p>
<p>Scalia said the nation is &#8220;at war with radical Islamists&#8221; and that the court&#8217;s decision &#8220;will make the war harder on us. It will almost certainly cause more Americans to be killed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Justices Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, David Souter and John Paul Stevens joined Kennedy to form the majority.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I just don&#039;t think he&#039;s got yet the proven substance or experience to be president.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Former President Jimmy Carter, on November 30, 2006, asked about a presidential run by Barack Obama:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I just don&#039;t think he&#039;s got yet the proven substance or experience to be president.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The RNC is showcasing that, and it&#039;s a nice quote to throw at Carter. But you know what quote goes well with that?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Just what&#039;s he done? I mean, what&#039;s he done?&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;— Congressman Bobby Rush, in a debate with then state legislator Barack Obama, when both men were competing for the Democratic primary for Rush&#039;s seat in 2000. Rush won the primary, 61 percent to 30 percent.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In other words, the voters in Chicago concurred with Rush that Obama was not experienced enough or accomplished enough to be their Congressman in 2000. Seven and a half years later, we&#039;re told he&#039;s ready to be commander-in-chief.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s got yet the proven substance or experience to be president.&#8221;</p>
<p>Former President Jimmy Carter, on November 30, 2006, asked about a presidential run by Barack Obama:</p>
<p>&#8220;I just don&#8217;t think he&#8217;s got yet the proven substance or experience to be president.&#8221;</p>
<p>The RNC is showcasing that, and it&#8217;s a nice quote to throw at Carter. But you know what quote goes well with that?</p>
<p>&#8220;Just what&#8217;s he done? I mean, what&#8217;s he done?&#8221;</p>
<p>— Congressman Bobby Rush, in a debate with then state legislator Barack Obama, when both men were competing for the Democratic primary for Rush&#8217;s seat in 2000. Rush won the primary, 61 percent to 30 percent.</p>
<p>In other words, the voters in Chicago concurred with Rush that Obama was not experienced enough or accomplished enough to be their Congressman in 2000. Seven and a half years later, we&#8217;re told he&#8217;s ready to be commander-in-chief.</p>
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		<title>By: s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 13:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WALL STREET JOURNAL:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;    Anyone wondering why U.S. energy policy is so dysfunctional need only review Congress&#039;s recent antics. Members have debated ideas ranging from suing OPEC to the Senate&#039;s carbon tax-and-regulation monstrosity, to a windfall profits tax on oil companies, to new punishments for &quot;price gouging&quot; – everything except expanding domestic energy supplies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;    Amid $135 oil, it ought to be an easy, bipartisan victory to lift the political restrictions on energy exploration and production. Record-high fuel costs are hitting consumers and business like a huge tax increase. Yet the U.S. remains one of the only countries in the world that chooses as a matter of policy to lock up its natural resources. The Chinese think we&#039;re insane and self-destructive, while the Saudis laugh all the way to the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WALL STREET JOURNAL:</p>
<p>    Anyone wondering why U.S. energy policy is so dysfunctional need only review Congress&#8217;s recent antics. Members have debated ideas ranging from suing OPEC to the Senate&#8217;s carbon tax-and-regulation monstrosity, to a windfall profits tax on oil companies, to new punishments for &#8220;price gouging&#8221; – everything except expanding domestic energy supplies.</p>
<p>    Amid $135 oil, it ought to be an easy, bipartisan victory to lift the political restrictions on energy exploration and production. Record-high fuel costs are hitting consumers and business like a huge tax increase. Yet the U.S. remains one of the only countries in the world that chooses as a matter of policy to lock up its natural resources. The Chinese think we&#8217;re insane and self-destructive, while the Saudis laugh all the way to the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<description>consortiumnews.com&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain Makes Stuff Up &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;By Robert Parry &lt;br/&gt;June 12, 2008&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;For years now, the U.S. political press corps has traveled with John McCain on his “Straight Talk Express,” buying into his image as a paragon of truth-telling. But the real truth is that McCain routinely makes stuff up, as he did on June 11 in lying about Barack Obama’s “bitter” comment.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;During a political talk in Philadelphia, McCain claimed that Obama had described “bitter” small-town voters as clinging to religion or “the Constitution” – when the second item in Obama’s comment actually was “guns.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But the Arizona senator didn’t stop with a simple word substitution. He added that he will tell these voters that “they have trust and support the Constitution of the United States because they have optimism and hope. … That’s what America’s all about.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In other words, McCain didn’t just make a slip of the tongue. He willfully accused Obama of disparaging the U.S. Constitution, a very serious point that, if true, might cause millions of Americans to reject Obama’s candidacy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Still, when some of the U.S. broadcast networks – including NBC evening news – played the clip of McCain lashing out at Obama’s purported dissing of the Constitution, they didn’t correct McCain&#039;s falsehood.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That fits with a long-standing pattern of the political press corps giving McCain a break when he makes statements at variance with the truth. Even in the rare moments when he is caught in an inaccuracy – such as accusing Shiite-ruled Iran of training Sunni extremists in al-Qaeda – the falsehood is minimized as an unintentional gaffe.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, McCain actually seems to be following a trail blazed by George W. Bush, saying what’s useful at the time even if it’s not true and then counting on the U.S. press corps to timidly look the other way.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Through all his misstatements, McCain’s “straight-talk” reputation survives.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Sweeping Denials&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In another instructive case, McCain got away with sweeping denials in his reaction to a New York Times article on Feb. 21. The story led with unsubstantiated suspicions among some McCain staffers that their boss had gotten too cozy with female lobbyist Vicky Iseman, but McCain went beyond simply denying any sexual improprieties.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He put out a statement declaring that in his quarter-century congressional career, he “has never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists.” But that simply isn’t true.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As the Times story already had recalled, McCain helped one of his early financial backers, wheeler-dealer Charles Keating, frustrate oversight from federal banking regulators who were examining Keating’s Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At Keating&#039;s urging, McCain wrote letters, introduced bills and pushed a Keating associate for a job on a banking regulatory board. In 1987, McCain joined several other senators in two private meetings with federal banking regulators on Keating’s behalf.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Two years later, Lincoln collapsed, costing the U.S. taxpayers $3.4 billion. Keating eventually went to prison and three other senators from the so-called Keating Five saw their political careers ruined.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain drew a Senate reprimand for his involvement and later lamented his faulty judgment. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” he wrote in his 2002 memoir, Worth the Fighting For.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But some people close to the case thought McCain got off too easy.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not only was McCain taking donations from Keating and his business circle, getting free rides on Keating’s corporate jet and enjoying joint vacations in the Bahamas – McCain’s second wife, the beer fortune heiress Cindy Hensley, had invested with Keating in an Arizona shopping mall.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In the years that followed, however, McCain not only got out from under the shadow of the Keating Five scandal but found a silver lining in the cloud, transforming the case into a lessons-learned chapter of his personal narrative.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain, as born-again reformer, soon was winning over the Washington press corps with his sponsorship of ethics legislation, like the McCain-Feingold bill limiting “soft money” contributions to the political parties.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;However, there was still that other side of John McCain as he wielded enormous power from his position as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, which helped him solicit campaign donations from corporations doing business before the panel.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Times story reported that McCain did favors on behalf of Iseman’s lobbying clients, including two letters that McCain wrote in 1999 to the Federal Communications Commission demanding that it act on a long-delayed request by Iseman’s client, Florida-based Paxson Communications, to buy a Pittsburgh television station.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Rather than simply acknowledge this fact, McCain’s campaign issued another sweeping denial of impropriety, calling those letters routine correspondence that were handled by staff without McCain meeting either with Paxson or anyone from Iseman’s firm, Alcalde &amp; Fay.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;No representative of Paxson or Alcalde &amp; Fay personally asked Senator McCain to send a letter to the FCC,&quot; his campaign said.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain’s Own Words&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But that also turned out not to be true.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Newsweek’s investigative reporter Michael Isikoff dug up a sworn deposition from Sept. 25, 2002, in which McCain himself declared that “I was contacted by Mr. Paxson on this issue. … He wanted their [the FCC’s] approval very bad for purposes of his business. I believe that Mr. Paxson had a legitimate complaint.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Though McCain claimed not to recall whether he had spoken with Paxson’s lobbyist [presumably a reference to Iseman], he added, “I’m sure I spoke to [Paxson],” according to the deposition. [See Newsweek’s Web posting, Feb. 22, 2008]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain’s letters to the FCC, which Chairman William Kennard criticized as “highly unusual,” came in the same period when Paxson’s company was ferrying McCain to political events aboard its corporate jet and donating $20,000 to his campaign.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;After the Feb. 21 Times article appeared, McCain’s spokesmen confirmed that Iseman accompanied McCain on at least one of those flights from Florida to Washington, though McCain had said in the 2002 deposition that “I do not recall” if Paxson’s lobbyist was onboard.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams, who conducted the deposition in connection with a challenge to the McCain-Feingold law, asked McCain if the benefits that he received from Paxson created “at least an appearance of corruption here?”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;“Absolutely,” McCain answered. “I believe that there could possibly be an appearance of corruption because this system has tainted all of us.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When Newsweek went to McCain’s 2008 campaign with the seeming contradictions between the deposition and the denial of the Times article, McCain’s people stuck to their story that that the senator had never discussed the FCC issue with Paxson or his lobbyist.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;“We do not think there is a contradiction here,” campaign spokeswoman Ann Begeman told Newsweek. “It appears that Senator McCain, when speaking of being contacted by Paxson, was speaking in shorthand of his staff being contacted by representatives of Paxson. Senator McCain does not recall being asked directly by Paxson or any representative of him or by Alcalde &amp; Fay to contact the FCC regarding the Pittsburgh license transaction.”&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That new denial crumbled, too, when the Washington Post interviewed Paxson, who said he had talked with McCain in his Washington office several weeks before McCain sent the letters to the FCC.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The broadcast executive also believed that Iseman had helped arrange the meeting and likely was in attendance. “Was Vicki there? Probably,” Paxson said. [Washington Post, Feb. 23, 2008]&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;So, in the months ahead, there’s urgency for American voters to figure out whether John McCain is the maverick “straight-shooter” of his usual press clippings or a sanctimonious phony who’s just masquerading as the guy who tells it like it is.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Is John McCain like George W. Bush, someone who has learned that the mainstream news media – ever sensitive to accusations of “liberal bias” – is hesitant to call a prominent Republican politician a liar, regardless of the facts and the circumstances?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In this political/media climate, McCain appears to believe he can get away with falsifying key details of something even as heavily reported as Obama’s infamous “bitter” remark.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press</description>
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<p>McCain Makes Stuff Up </p>
<p>By Robert Parry <br />June 12, 2008</p>
<p>For years now, the U.S. political press corps has traveled with John McCain on his “Straight Talk Express,” buying into his image as a paragon of truth-telling. But the real truth is that McCain routinely makes stuff up, as he did on June 11 in lying about Barack Obama’s “bitter” comment.</p>
<p>During a political talk in Philadelphia, McCain claimed that Obama had described “bitter” small-town voters as clinging to religion or “the Constitution” – when the second item in Obama’s comment actually was “guns.”</p>
<p>But the Arizona senator didn’t stop with a simple word substitution. He added that he will tell these voters that “they have trust and support the Constitution of the United States because they have optimism and hope. … That’s what America’s all about.”</p>
<p>In other words, McCain didn’t just make a slip of the tongue. He willfully accused Obama of disparaging the U.S. Constitution, a very serious point that, if true, might cause millions of Americans to reject Obama’s candidacy.</p>
<p>Still, when some of the U.S. broadcast networks – including NBC evening news – played the clip of McCain lashing out at Obama’s purported dissing of the Constitution, they didn’t correct McCain&#8217;s falsehood.</p>
<p>That fits with a long-standing pattern of the political press corps giving McCain a break when he makes statements at variance with the truth. Even in the rare moments when he is caught in an inaccuracy – such as accusing Shiite-ruled Iran of training Sunni extremists in al-Qaeda – the falsehood is minimized as an unintentional gaffe.</p>
<p>However, McCain actually seems to be following a trail blazed by George W. Bush, saying what’s useful at the time even if it’s not true and then counting on the U.S. press corps to timidly look the other way.</p>
<p>Through all his misstatements, McCain’s “straight-talk” reputation survives.</p>
<p>Sweeping Denials</p>
<p>In another instructive case, McCain got away with sweeping denials in his reaction to a New York Times article on Feb. 21. The story led with unsubstantiated suspicions among some McCain staffers that their boss had gotten too cozy with female lobbyist Vicky Iseman, but McCain went beyond simply denying any sexual improprieties.</p>
<p>He put out a statement declaring that in his quarter-century congressional career, he “has never violated the public trust, never done favors for special interests or lobbyists.” But that simply isn’t true.</p>
<p>As the Times story already had recalled, McCain helped one of his early financial backers, wheeler-dealer Charles Keating, frustrate oversight from federal banking regulators who were examining Keating’s Lincoln Savings and Loan Association.</p>
<p>At Keating&#8217;s urging, McCain wrote letters, introduced bills and pushed a Keating associate for a job on a banking regulatory board. In 1987, McCain joined several other senators in two private meetings with federal banking regulators on Keating’s behalf.</p>
<p>Two years later, Lincoln collapsed, costing the U.S. taxpayers $3.4 billion. Keating eventually went to prison and three other senators from the so-called Keating Five saw their political careers ruined.</p>
<p>McCain drew a Senate reprimand for his involvement and later lamented his faulty judgment. “Why didn’t I fully grasp the unusual appearance of such a meeting?” he wrote in his 2002 memoir, Worth the Fighting For.</p>
<p>But some people close to the case thought McCain got off too easy.</p>
<p>Not only was McCain taking donations from Keating and his business circle, getting free rides on Keating’s corporate jet and enjoying joint vacations in the Bahamas – McCain’s second wife, the beer fortune heiress Cindy Hensley, had invested with Keating in an Arizona shopping mall.</p>
<p>In the years that followed, however, McCain not only got out from under the shadow of the Keating Five scandal but found a silver lining in the cloud, transforming the case into a lessons-learned chapter of his personal narrative.</p>
<p>McCain, as born-again reformer, soon was winning over the Washington press corps with his sponsorship of ethics legislation, like the McCain-Feingold bill limiting “soft money” contributions to the political parties.</p>
<p>However, there was still that other side of John McCain as he wielded enormous power from his position as chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, which helped him solicit campaign donations from corporations doing business before the panel.</p>
<p>The Times story reported that McCain did favors on behalf of Iseman’s lobbying clients, including two letters that McCain wrote in 1999 to the Federal Communications Commission demanding that it act on a long-delayed request by Iseman’s client, Florida-based Paxson Communications, to buy a Pittsburgh television station.</p>
<p>Rather than simply acknowledge this fact, McCain’s campaign issued another sweeping denial of impropriety, calling those letters routine correspondence that were handled by staff without McCain meeting either with Paxson or anyone from Iseman’s firm, Alcalde &#038; Fay.</p>
<p>&#8220;No representative of Paxson or Alcalde &#038; Fay personally asked Senator McCain to send a letter to the FCC,&#8221; his campaign said.</p>
<p>McCain’s Own Words</p>
<p>But that also turned out not to be true.</p>
<p>Newsweek’s investigative reporter Michael Isikoff dug up a sworn deposition from Sept. 25, 2002, in which McCain himself declared that “I was contacted by Mr. Paxson on this issue. … He wanted their [the FCC’s] approval very bad for purposes of his business. I believe that Mr. Paxson had a legitimate complaint.”</p>
<p>Though McCain claimed not to recall whether he had spoken with Paxson’s lobbyist [presumably a reference to Iseman], he added, “I’m sure I spoke to [Paxson],” according to the deposition. [See Newsweek’s Web posting, Feb. 22, 2008]</p>
<p>McCain’s letters to the FCC, which Chairman William Kennard criticized as “highly unusual,” came in the same period when Paxson’s company was ferrying McCain to political events aboard its corporate jet and donating $20,000 to his campaign.</p>
<p>After the Feb. 21 Times article appeared, McCain’s spokesmen confirmed that Iseman accompanied McCain on at least one of those flights from Florida to Washington, though McCain had said in the 2002 deposition that “I do not recall” if Paxson’s lobbyist was onboard.</p>
<p>First Amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams, who conducted the deposition in connection with a challenge to the McCain-Feingold law, asked McCain if the benefits that he received from Paxson created “at least an appearance of corruption here?”</p>
<p>“Absolutely,” McCain answered. “I believe that there could possibly be an appearance of corruption because this system has tainted all of us.”</p>
<p>When Newsweek went to McCain’s 2008 campaign with the seeming contradictions between the deposition and the denial of the Times article, McCain’s people stuck to their story that that the senator had never discussed the FCC issue with Paxson or his lobbyist.</p>
<p>“We do not think there is a contradiction here,” campaign spokeswoman Ann Begeman told Newsweek. “It appears that Senator McCain, when speaking of being contacted by Paxson, was speaking in shorthand of his staff being contacted by representatives of Paxson. Senator McCain does not recall being asked directly by Paxson or any representative of him or by Alcalde &#038; Fay to contact the FCC regarding the Pittsburgh license transaction.”</p>
<p>That new denial crumbled, too, when the Washington Post interviewed Paxson, who said he had talked with McCain in his Washington office several weeks before McCain sent the letters to the FCC.</p>
<p>The broadcast executive also believed that Iseman had helped arrange the meeting and likely was in attendance. “Was Vicki there? Probably,” Paxson said. [Washington Post, Feb. 23, 2008]</p>
<p>So, in the months ahead, there’s urgency for American voters to figure out whether John McCain is the maverick “straight-shooter” of his usual press clippings or a sanctimonious phony who’s just masquerading as the guy who tells it like it is.</p>
<p>Is John McCain like George W. Bush, someone who has learned that the mainstream news media – ever sensitive to accusations of “liberal bias” – is hesitant to call a prominent Republican politician a liar, regardless of the facts and the circumstances?</p>
<p>In this political/media climate, McCain appears to believe he can get away with falsifying key details of something even as heavily reported as Obama’s infamous “bitter” remark.</p>
<p>Robert Parry broke many of the Iran-Contra stories in the 1980s for the Associated Press</p>
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		<title>By: KarmiCommunist</title>
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		<dc:creator>KarmiCommunist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a picture of Obama&#039;s - &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/jamesjohnsonbus.png&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;New Bus&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a picture of Obama&#8217;s &#8211; <a HREF="http://michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/jamesjohnsonbus.png" REL="nofollow">New Bus</a>.</p>
<p>;-)</p>
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		<title>By: D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/its_getting_crowded_under_obam.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It&#039;s Getting Crowded Under Obama&#039;s Bus&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/its_getting_crowded_under_obam.html" REL="nofollow">It&#8217;s Getting Crowded Under Obama&#8217;s Bus</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New Gang of 14 won’t back McCain  &lt;br/&gt;By Kristen Coulter and Bob Cusack  &lt;br/&gt;Posted: 06/11/08 07:48 PM [ET]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Gang of 14 won’t back McCain  <br />By Kristen Coulter and Bob Cusack  <br />Posted: 06/11/08 07:48 PM [ET]</p>
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