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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Open Thread- Let it all hang out</title>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-3/#comment-22487</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 09:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right, anon at 12:27.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;They are not real humans. They do not deserve respect like real humans. The only Muslim women who would ask for such respect must be plants. Others who are not plants would shut up and understand that their physical presence is politically offensive and would accept this complacently.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Any Muslim women who call on Senator Obama to respond like the real human being he is, to respect them as actual human beings, must be plants.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s all a big GOP plot! Exactly! Made more credible by the anonymous-ness of this courageous troll, I mean commentator here.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Good thing Senator Obama doesn&#039;t fall for such foolishness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right, anon at 12:27.</p>
<p>They are not real humans. They do not deserve respect like real humans. The only Muslim women who would ask for such respect must be plants. Others who are not plants would shut up and understand that their physical presence is politically offensive and would accept this complacently.</p>
<p>Any Muslim women who call on Senator Obama to respond like the real human being he is, to respect them as actual human beings, must be plants.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all a big GOP plot! Exactly! Made more credible by the anonymous-ness of this courageous troll, I mean commentator here.</p>
<p>Good thing Senator Obama doesn&#8217;t fall for such foolishness.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shimaa Abdelfadeel and Hebba Aref were PLANTS. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pure and simple.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It was a SET-UP!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;A set-up designed to keep the Muslim narrative nipping at Obama&#039;s heels. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Abdelfadeel and Aref HAD to know just like anyone else following this election that a picture of Obama at ONE OF HIS OWN EVENTS with Muslim women directly in camera view would provide content for countless GOP smear 527 commercials  and emails.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I believe the GOP sent them there, hoping the Obama camp would be PC and let them stay, only to use the footage later.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;EFF all the other politically correct stuff.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Most Muslims are fine but it is about the ignorance of white uneducated Americans around this country that don&#039;t know that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Those women were DELIBERATELY planted to eff Obama up. Their continued complaints and demands for Obama to seat them at future events only confirms this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shimaa Abdelfadeel and Hebba Aref were PLANTS. </p>
<p>Pure and simple.</p>
<p>It was a SET-UP!</p>
<p>A set-up designed to keep the Muslim narrative nipping at Obama&#8217;s heels. </p>
<p>Abdelfadeel and Aref HAD to know just like anyone else following this election that a picture of Obama at ONE OF HIS OWN EVENTS with Muslim women directly in camera view would provide content for countless GOP smear 527 commercials  and emails.</p>
<p>I believe the GOP sent them there, hoping the Obama camp would be PC and let them stay, only to use the footage later.</p>
<p>EFF all the other politically correct stuff.</p>
<p>Most Muslims are fine but it is about the ignorance of white uneducated Americans around this country that don&#8217;t know that.</p>
<p>Those women were DELIBERATELY planted to eff Obama up. Their continued complaints and demands for Obama to seat them at future events only confirms this.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;re: Is this funny to you?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Some things ought to be left alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah,</p>
<p>re: Is this funny to you?</p>
<p>Some things ought to be left alone.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-3/#comment-22255</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1013609,CST-NWS-mitch19.article&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michelle Obama bitter? Not likely&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/news/mitchell/1013609,CST-NWS-mitch19.article" REL="nofollow">Michelle Obama bitter? Not likely</a></p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-3/#comment-22254</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/1015939,wright062008.article&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Wright, Pfleger appear together, but play it safer&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/lifestyles/religion/1015939,wright062008.article" REL="nofollow">Wright, Pfleger appear together, but play it safer</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to show your support for the Obama campaign 24/7 go to www.committothedream.com and get your &quot;Yes We Can&quot; silicone bracelet Today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to show your support for the Obama campaign 24/7 go to <a href="http://www.committothedream.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.committothedream.com</a> and get your &#8220;Yes We Can&#8221; silicone bracelet Today!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s about as funny as that DailyKos picture from a few weeks back...you know the one. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And, these are supposed to be our allies. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Uh huh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s about as funny as that DailyKos picture from a few weeks back&#8230;you know the one. </p>
<p>And, these are supposed to be our allies. </p>
<p>Uh huh.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-3/#comment-22249</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if we will decide to do this as a main post, but I&#039;m just gonna say it:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;THESE FOLKS HAVE LOST THEIR DAMN MINDS.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://michelleobamawatch.com/?p=73&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Is this funny to you?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if we will decide to do this as a main post, but I&#8217;m just gonna say it:</p>
<p>THESE FOLKS HAVE LOST THEIR DAMN MINDS.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://michelleobamawatch.com/?p=73" REL="nofollow">Is this funny to you?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22247</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;No problem. when white political pundits attack republican operatives with explicit language about racism, my eyebrows arch mighty high.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Twilight zone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t wanna rehash a recent debate, but if a consequence of Father&#039;s Day is a public calling out of racism, white on white, well, then....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah,</p>
<p>No problem. when white political pundits attack republican operatives with explicit language about racism, my eyebrows arch mighty high.</p>
<p>Twilight zone.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wanna rehash a recent debate, but if a consequence of Father&#8217;s Day is a public calling out of racism, white on white, well, then&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22243</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://yourblackpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/conservative-talk-show-host-assaults.html&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The comments made in the video were ridiculous.  I have worked for several companies where LOTS of people get paid to do nothing.  I doubt Michelle Obama being Black and being a woman, was allowed to sit up in her big cushy job and do &#039;nothing.&#039;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wonder what Cindy McCain&#039;s resume looks like?  Would there even be room for comparison?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://yourblackpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/conservative-talk-show-host-assaults.html" rel="nofollow">http://yourblackpolitics.blogspot.com/2008/06/conservative-talk-show-host-assaults.html</a></p>
<p>The comments made in the video were ridiculous.  I have worked for several companies where LOTS of people get paid to do nothing.  I doubt Michelle Obama being Black and being a woman, was allowed to sit up in her big cushy job and do &#8216;nothing.&#8217;</p>
<p>I wonder what Cindy McCain&#8217;s resume looks like?  Would there even be room for comparison?</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22242</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>craig,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thanks for the tip about Alter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>craig,</p>
<p>thanks for the tip about Alter</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22240</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 03:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the Charlie Sheen thing,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have to ask our White readers:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Do you go around calling White people - &#039;N#*$er&#039;? &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t quite get it. I mean, is that really an insult to someone who isn&#039;t Black?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Or, is this Charlie Sheen&#039;s way of saying that Denise Richards has been &#039; passing&#039; all these years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About the Charlie Sheen thing,</p>
<p>I have to ask our White readers:</p>
<p>Do you go around calling White people &#8211; &#8216;N#*$er&#8217;? </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t quite get it. I mean, is that really an insult to someone who isn&#8217;t Black?</p>
<p>Or, is this Charlie Sheen&#8217;s way of saying that Denise Richards has been &#8216; passing&#8217; all these years?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22233</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig -- on this I wasn&#039;t sure what he was going to do and it felt like a lot of static around it to me ... maybe reading people making excuses for him confused/disoriented me somehow. Or, maybe it was unclear for a while if he would do the right thing. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Anyway, glad to see what he did. Weird how big a deal it was to me -- really weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig &#8212; on this I wasn&#8217;t sure what he was going to do and it felt like a lot of static around it to me &#8230; maybe reading people making excuses for him confused/disoriented me somehow. Or, maybe it was unclear for a while if he would do the right thing. </p>
<p>Anyway, glad to see what he did. Weird how big a deal it was to me &#8212; really weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22231</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 02:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>michelle, &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I trusted Barack to do the right thing on this matter and he did.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wonder what he said to the volunteer, if anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>michelle, </p>
<p>I trusted Barack to do the right thing on this matter and he did.</p>
<p>I wonder what he said to the volunteer, if anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22222</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senator Obama obviously doesn&#039;t need anyone to give excuses for him not doing right regarding what happened to the two Muslim women.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Clearly he knew what was right to do in this case and he did it. Clearly he got that what happened was a real disrespect that warranted his direct involvement. Clearly the first response from his staff was not enough. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The initial spokesman apology denied reality in a way that was messed-up. That has been corrected.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;His actions responded to what actually occurred, what he claims his campaign is about, and what he was called on to do by people who will be his constituents .. people who were wronged supposedly on his behalf. They accepted his actions and say they can move on. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is not just savvy politicking to how I feel it. This is a politician acting like a real human being. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I see his direct involvement in this case as a sign of groundedness and strength, and I respect it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senator Obama obviously doesn&#8217;t need anyone to give excuses for him not doing right regarding what happened to the two Muslim women.</p>
<p>Clearly he knew what was right to do in this case and he did it. Clearly he got that what happened was a real disrespect that warranted his direct involvement. Clearly the first response from his staff was not enough. </p>
<p>The initial spokesman apology denied reality in a way that was messed-up. That has been corrected.</p>
<p>His actions responded to what actually occurred, what he claims his campaign is about, and what he was called on to do by people who will be his constituents .. people who were wronged supposedly on his behalf. They accepted his actions and say they can move on. </p>
<p>This is not just savvy politicking to how I feel it. This is a politician acting like a real human being. </p>
<p>I see his direct involvement in this case as a sign of groundedness and strength, and I respect it.</p>
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		<title>By: Renee</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22220</link>
		<dc:creator>Renee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote about a quote from &lt;a HTTP://WWW.WOMANIST-MUSINGS.COM/2008/06/USHER-ON-RELATIONSHIPS.HTML HREF+ HREF=&quot;&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;usher&lt;/a&gt; that was posted in vibe, regarding black women turning to love each other due to a shortage of black men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote about a quote from <a HTTP://WWW.WOMANIST-MUSINGS.COM/2008/06/USHER-ON-RELATIONSHIPS.HTML HREF+ HREF="" REL="nofollow">usher</a> that was posted in vibe, regarding black women turning to love each other due to a shortage of black men.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22219</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I really didn&#039;t love America until I was deprived of her company.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;::&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That&#039;s what McCain said back in 1999 on Fox, no less.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The panel Dan brought to discuss this is no joke. They&#039;re going at it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Jonathan said:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;You&#039;re trying to paint her as the angry Black woman. We all know what you&#039;re doing and its detestable. Do you even know her? Have you even met her? Do you know anyone who knows her?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I really didn&#8217;t love America until I was deprived of her company.&#8221;</p>
<p>::</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what McCain said back in 1999 on Fox, no less.</p>
<p>The panel Dan brought to discuss this is no joke. They&#8217;re going at it.</p>
<p>Jonathan said:</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re trying to paint her as the angry Black woman. We all know what you&#8217;re doing and its detestable. Do you even know her? Have you even met her? Do you know anyone who knows her?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jonathan Alter just said that Lars Larson was being racist by smearing Michelle Obama the way he&#039;s smearing her.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hell yeah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Alter just said that Lars Larson was being racist by smearing Michelle Obama the way he&#8217;s smearing her.</p>
<p>Hell yeah.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22215</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Abrams is killing John McCain on his own comments about loving American only &lt;i&gt;after&lt;/i&gt; he was held as a POW.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;With video.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, let&#039;s see how far this goes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Abrams is killing John McCain on his own comments about loving American only <i>after</i> he was held as a POW.</p>
<p>With video.</p>
<p>Now, let&#8217;s see how far this goes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/thursday-open-thread-let-it-all-hang-out-6/comment-page-2/#comment-22212</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 00:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone want Obama to be about them. Well, that&#039;s a helluva lot better than what we&#039;ve had up to know, which is the president being only for white folks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone want Obama to be about them. Well, that&#8217;s a helluva lot better than what we&#8217;ve had up to know, which is the president being only for white folks.</p>
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