Comments on: Superdelegate Rob Andrews Knocks Clinton on Racial Campaign Tactics http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:32:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Nitahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-20038 Nita Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:55:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-20038 @kitty said..."Not surprised that Andrews is only coming out with this after the fact."<br/><br/>Story of the Clintons' campaign. <br/>This is why I refuse to jump on the 'we're all one happy family again because Hillary gave a speech' like everyone else this past weekend. Never again will I trust them. Never-again.<br/><br/>They sicken me. But so are a lot of Democrats as well, to be perfectly honest. @kitty said…”Not surprised that Andrews is only coming out with this after the fact.”

Story of the Clintons’ campaign.
This is why I refuse to jump on the ‘we’re all one happy family again because Hillary gave a speech’ like everyone else this past weekend. Never again will I trust them. Never-again.

They sicken me. But so are a lot of Democrats as well, to be perfectly honest.

]]> By: evitahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19707 evita Sat, 07 Jun 2008 03:09:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19707 Bill was out there saying whatever he wanted, especially racist ish. Is he going to endorse Obama too? Will her RECANT the stuff he told people from PA, OHm and WV? Bill was out there saying whatever he wanted, especially racist ish. Is he going to endorse Obama too? Will her RECANT the stuff he told people from PA, OHm and WV?

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19702 rikyrah Sat, 07 Jun 2008 02:49:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19702 This couldn't be a surprise to anyone who had been alert. <br/><br/>Pitting Black against White. <br/><br/>Pitting Black against Latino.<br/><br/>Who the hell do you think has been shoveling the ' Obama has a problem with The Jews' memo every 10-14 days from the very beginning of this campaign. <br/><br/>None of this is surprising. It's obviious. This couldn’t be a surprise to anyone who had been alert.

Pitting Black against White.

Pitting Black against Latino.

Who the hell do you think has been shoveling the ‘ Obama has a problem with The Jews’ memo every 10-14 days from the very beginning of this campaign.

None of this is surprising. It’s obviious.

]]> By: Michellehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19667 Michelle Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:35:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19667 <i>Yes, the divide and conquer strategy employed by Clinton is notable because ultimately it was counter-productive. In a way, that says a lot about how far we've come as a country. Though it doesn't say great things about Clinton's cynical attitude toward race, religion and ethnicity as exploitable.</i><br/><br/>Thank you, Jill. Yes, the divide and conquer strategy employed by Clinton is notable because ultimately it was counter-productive. In a way, that says a lot about how far we’ve come as a country. Though it doesn’t say great things about Clinton’s cynical attitude toward race, religion and ethnicity as exploitable.

Thank you, Jill.

]]> By: Jill Tubmanhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19664 Jill Tubman Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:10:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19664 Yes, the divide and conquer strategy employed by Clinton is notable because ultimately it was counter-productive. In a way, that says a lot about how far we've come as a country. Though it doesn't say great things about Clinton's cynical attitude toward race, religion and ethnicity as exploitable. Yes, the divide and conquer strategy employed by Clinton is notable because ultimately it was counter-productive. In a way, that says a lot about how far we’ve come as a country. Though it doesn’t say great things about Clinton’s cynical attitude toward race, religion and ethnicity as exploitable.

]]> By: Michellehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19659 Michelle Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:40:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19659 <i><b>the caller explicitly discussed a strategy of winning over Jewish voters by exploiting tensions between Jews and African-Americans.</i></b><br/><br/>I totally saw that strategy at work well before then, in one of the debates between Ms. Hillary and Senator Obama. It made me furious and sick. <br/><br/>It was the debate where she was calling on him to denounce and reject Rev. Wright and Minister Farrakhan. She brought up the "Jewish community" in this nasty possessive way, and he was talking about needing to work in coalition and struggle through the difficult work of that. <br/><br/>She was clearly into using the divide and tensions for her own gain.<br/><br/>I was practically yelling at the computer screen as I read the transcript: <br/><br/>"Hey white Christian lady you are not benevolent in this, <b>your people</b> (not Black people) are the ones who terrorized my people for centuries in Europe and I know that you and yours would sell us down the river in a heartbeat anytime it benefits your plans. So white Christian lady, you are NOT my friend -- stop pretending like you are "protecting" white Jews from those big bad Black people." <br/><br/>Oh yeah, that strategy came RIGHT from the very top no doubt in my mind on that. the caller explicitly discussed a strategy of winning over Jewish voters by exploiting tensions between Jews and African-Americans.

I totally saw that strategy at work well before then, in one of the debates between Ms. Hillary and Senator Obama. It made me furious and sick.

It was the debate where she was calling on him to denounce and reject Rev. Wright and Minister Farrakhan. She brought up the “Jewish community” in this nasty possessive way, and he was talking about needing to work in coalition and struggle through the difficult work of that.

She was clearly into using the divide and tensions for her own gain.

I was practically yelling at the computer screen as I read the transcript:

“Hey white Christian lady you are not benevolent in this, your people (not Black people) are the ones who terrorized my people for centuries in Europe and I know that you and yours would sell us down the river in a heartbeat anytime it benefits your plans. So white Christian lady, you are NOT my friend — stop pretending like you are “protecting” white Jews from those big bad Black people.”

Oh yeah, that strategy came RIGHT from the very top no doubt in my mind on that.

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19645 TruthSeeker Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:26:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19645 ronnie b,<br/><br/>Also, they must have thought him receptive to use that line of argument with him. Surely they wouldn't have called someone like Clyburn with that suggestion. I wonder if there is any personal benefit to him speaking now? If African Americans hear this, it would pay dividends for him at the ballot box in the form of a backlash perhaps. ronnie b,

Also, they must have thought him receptive to use that line of argument with him. Surely they wouldn’t have called someone like Clyburn with that suggestion. I wonder if there is any personal benefit to him speaking now? If African Americans hear this, it would pay dividends for him at the ballot box in the form of a backlash perhaps.

]]> By: heartsandflowershttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19643 heartsandflowers Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:25:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19643 Good. Let it all come out now. I was just flipping past CNN and they said something about Obama making overtures to Clinton - to Clinton!!! Are you friggin' kidding me?! Now she doesn't want to be VP. Ha! That speech tomorrow had better be worth it. They are mud to me along with all their supporters. They need to make sure Obama gets elected and then they need to be GONE! Good. Let it all come out now. I was just flipping past CNN and they said something about Obama making overtures to Clinton – to Clinton!!! Are you friggin’ kidding me?! Now she doesn’t want to be VP. Ha! That speech tomorrow had better be worth it. They are mud to me along with all their supporters. They need to make sure Obama gets elected and then they need to be GONE!

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19644 Anonymous Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:25:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19644 [Wait a second. Andrews became "aware" of this in April?? And now he's voicing his outrage? Please.]<br/><br/>He said he made his comments only after his primary election with Sen. Frank Lautenberg was done (on June 3rd) because he "didn't want people to think I was trying to win over Obama supporters in the primary."<br/><br/>Why aren't others stepping forward? Scott McClellan could probably give a good explanation.<br/><br/>---<br/>This post is discussed at:<br/>http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/6/143430/9919/732/531177 [Wait a second. Andrews became "aware" of this in April?? And now he's voicing his outrage? Please.]

He said he made his comments only after his primary election with Sen. Frank Lautenberg was done (on June 3rd) because he “didn’t want people to think I was trying to win over Obama supporters in the primary.”

Why aren’t others stepping forward? Scott McClellan could probably give a good explanation.

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This post is discussed at:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/6/143430/9919/732/531177

]]> By: Ronnie Bhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19638 Ronnie B Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:58:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19638 Wait a second. Andrews became "aware" of this in April?? <br/><br/>And <i>now</i> he's voicing his outrage? Please.<br/><br/>I'm thinking that if the Clinton people asked *him* to participate in the race-baiting, they probably asked others. <br/><br/>Why did no others come forward? Prolly because it might have changed the outcomes Ohio and the rest of Pennsy-tucky. Wait a second. Andrews became “aware” of this in April??

And now he’s voicing his outrage? Please.

I’m thinking that if the Clinton people asked *him* to participate in the race-baiting, they probably asked others.

Why did no others come forward? Prolly because it might have changed the outcomes Ohio and the rest of Pennsy-tucky.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19628 Anonymous Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:24:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19628 Hillary Clinton was standing next to Bob Kerrey when he made the 'madrassa' comment and said Senator Obama should stick to making uplifting speeches to 'underperforming youth' while the big guys control the government. <br/>Sen Clinton was smiling and clapping.<br/>How could her 'campaign' not approve? Is she separate from her campaign?<br/><br/>Clinton approved. That's what matters. Hillary Clinton was standing next to Bob Kerrey when he made the ‘madrassa’ comment and said Senator Obama should stick to making uplifting speeches to ‘underperforming youth’ while the big guys control the government.
Sen Clinton was smiling and clapping.
How could her ‘campaign’ not approve? Is she separate from her campaign?

Clinton approved. That’s what matters.

]]> By: Anonymisshttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19624 Anonymiss Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:06:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19624 Win at all costs --- that is not an attractive quality in the least. Win at all costs — that is not an attractive quality in the least.

]]> By: Afroamericawriterhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19622 Afroamericawriter Fri, 06 Jun 2008 18:50:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19622 Please give this guy a profile in courage award. Please give this guy a profile in courage award.

]]> By: Phiahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19606 Phia Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:24:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19606 You know there's going to be so many "tell-all" books coming out of the Clinton campaign that will make Scott McClellan's <i>What Happened</i> look like Winnie the Pooh You know there’s going to be so many “tell-all” books coming out of the Clinton campaign that will make Scott McClellan’s What Happened look like Winnie the Pooh

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19597 Anonymous Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:27:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19597 I guess he won't be getting any calls from Bob 'booty shaking' Johnson,or that Tubbs-Jones who would disagree with everything he said. Missy Hillary ain't never played the race card, she is a good white lady. I guess he won’t be getting any calls from Bob ‘booty shaking’ Johnson,or that Tubbs-Jones who would disagree with everything he said. Missy Hillary ain’t never played the race card, she is a good white lady.

]]> By: kittyhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19595 kitty Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:11:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19595 Not surprised that Andrews is only coming out with this <i>after</i> the fact. He’s my congressman and one of those blue dog Democrats you always hear about…voted to invade Iraq, sides with Bush more often than not, etc. The messed-up thing is that machine politics have the NJ Dems on lockdown so he can’t be primaried out. In fact Andrews’ wife just won the House seat he left to run against Lautenberg. She ran solely to serve as a “placeholder” until the machine can put in their choice. Gee, wonder who that will be now?<br/><br/>I’m quite bitter about being denied real representation all these years. Not surprised that Andrews is only coming out with this after the fact. He’s my congressman and one of those blue dog Democrats you always hear about…voted to invade Iraq, sides with Bush more often than not, etc. The messed-up thing is that machine politics have the NJ Dems on lockdown so he can’t be primaried out. In fact Andrews’ wife just won the House seat he left to run against Lautenberg. She ran solely to serve as a “placeholder” until the machine can put in their choice. Gee, wonder who that will be now?

I’m quite bitter about being denied real representation all these years.

]]> By: Anonymoushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/superdelegate-rob-andrews-knocks-clinton-on-racial-campaign-tactics/comment-page-1/#comment-19594 Anonymous Fri, 06 Jun 2008 16:07:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1374#comment-19594 Gee, had he said that during his senatorial campaign, he might've beaten Frank Lautenberg.<br/><br/>Great show of courage there, Rob. NOT! Gee, had he said that during his senatorial campaign, he might’ve beaten Frank Lautenberg.

Great show of courage there, Rob. NOT!

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