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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22683</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do like him without the tie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do like him without the tie.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22682</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/224126/579/597/540449&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Donatella Versace Dedicates Fashion Line to Obama&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/224126/579/597/540449" REL="nofollow">Donatella Versace Dedicates Fashion Line to Obama</a></p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22679</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that Brokaw is a good choice through State of the Union 2009.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that Brokaw is a good choice through State of the Union 2009.</p>
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		<title>By: RhondaCoca</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22675</link>
		<dc:creator>RhondaCoca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;Bill Moyers is interviewing Orlando Patterson and another man whose name escapes me about Barack&#039;s Father&#039;s Day speech.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>&#8220;Bill Moyers is interviewing Orlando Patterson and another man whose name escapes me about Barack&#8217;s Father&#8217;s Day speech.&#8221;</p>
<p>Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22673</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig: Thank you so much for posting that link to &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/13830/4343/811/540243&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I got your back Barack!&lt;/a&gt; -- Just exactly excellent. Excellent. Thank you!!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The added link at the update -- to Phoenix Woman&#039;s diary called &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/1862/50773?new=true&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;It never was America to me&quot;&lt;/a&gt; -- is also great and worth reading IMO.&lt;br/&gt;-----&lt;br/&gt;Also, for anyone who hasn&#039;t read this already or wants to refresh their memory from 2005 ... Here is Barack Obama clearly and publicly stating some aspects of his actual political perspective ... which oddly enough in approach and tone looks suspiciously like his enacted political perspective, like, well ... now:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/30/102745/165&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Tone, Truth, and the Democratic Party, by Barack Obama, Sep 30, 2005&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig: Thank you so much for posting that link to <a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/13830/4343/811/540243" REL="nofollow">I got your back Barack!</a> &#8212; Just exactly excellent. Excellent. Thank you!!</p>
<p>The added link at the update &#8212; to Phoenix Woman&#8217;s diary called <a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/1862/50773?new=true" REL="nofollow">&#8220;It never was America to me&#8221;</a> &#8212; is also great and worth reading IMO.<br />&#8212;&#8211;<br />Also, for anyone who hasn&#8217;t read this already or wants to refresh their memory from 2005 &#8230; Here is Barack Obama clearly and publicly stating some aspects of his actual political perspective &#8230; which oddly enough in approach and tone looks suspiciously like his enacted political perspective, like, well &#8230; now:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/9/30/102745/165" REL="nofollow">Tone, Truth, and the Democratic Party, by Barack Obama, Sep 30, 2005</a></p>
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		<title>By: BigAssBelle</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22668</link>
		<dc:creator>BigAssBelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>craig hickman, that link . . . it&#039;s a pretty ridiculous argument. &quot;he&#039;s a constitutional law professor!&quot; exactly. &quot;he will do the right thing when president!&quot; so said george bush. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;it&#039;s ironic, really, that half of the folks who were vigorously pushing congress to stand up on fisa in february, are now willing to turn a blind eye just because barack obama has had a big gulp of republican kool-aid and has bought into the old, old rethug meme that dems are weak on terror. it&#039;s ridiculous. and he had it going on when he was confronting this bullshit, not selling out to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>craig hickman, that link . . . it&#8217;s a pretty ridiculous argument. &#8220;he&#8217;s a constitutional law professor!&#8221; exactly. &#8220;he will do the right thing when president!&#8221; so said george bush. </p>
<p>it&#8217;s ironic, really, that half of the folks who were vigorously pushing congress to stand up on fisa in february, are now willing to turn a blind eye just because barack obama has had a big gulp of republican kool-aid and has bought into the old, old rethug meme that dems are weak on terror. it&#8217;s ridiculous. and he had it going on when he was confronting this bullshit, not selling out to it.</p>
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		<title>By: icebergslim</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22665</link>
		<dc:creator>icebergslim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Week With Barack Obama is up.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/151135/428/783/540279</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Week With Barack Obama is up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/151135/428/783/540279" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/151135/428/783/540279</a></p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22663</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah, I didn&#039;t even realize no press was there.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Interesting, indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah, I didn&#8217;t even realize no press was there.</p>
<p>Interesting, indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22660</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nichelle,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Keebler Elf did a show on this, and it was amusing to watch the GOP Representatives dance around the double standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nichelle,</p>
<p>The Keebler Elf did a show on this, and it was amusing to watch the GOP Representatives dance around the double standard.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22659</link>
		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting how there was no press invited to the meeting between Obama and The CBC, but reports abound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting how there was no press invited to the meeting between Obama and The CBC, but reports abound.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22654</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another one worthy of some libation:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/154532/464/756/540290&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You Are Falling for the Right Wing&#039;s Trap&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another one worthy of some libation:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/154532/464/756/540290" REL="nofollow">You Are Falling for the Right Wing&#8217;s Trap</a></p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22652</link>
		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Compliments to Rikyrah on today&#039;s pic...i&#039;m feeling more sanctified by just looking at it.  Thank ya!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;...Tom Brokaw on MTP thru Nov&#039;08.  Don&#039;t say that I didn&#039;t warn you...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Compliments to Rikyrah on today&#8217;s pic&#8230;i&#8217;m feeling more sanctified by just looking at it.  Thank ya!</p>
<p>&#8230;Tom Brokaw on MTP thru Nov&#8217;08.  Don&#8217;t say that I didn&#8217;t warn you&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22651</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AMEN to rikyrah and truthseeker on the reaction of Diane Watson!  I wonder what billary promised them [diane watson, Rep. stephanie tubbs jones, sheila jackson lee].  Betcha they sooo wanted to move into the &quot;house&quot; from the &quot;field&quot;!!!!  But, as the records show, billary can&#039;t AFFORD any house based on their DEBT!  For real now - &quot;GET OVER IT!!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN to rikyrah and truthseeker on the reaction of Diane Watson!  I wonder what billary promised them [diane watson, Rep. stephanie tubbs jones, sheila jackson lee].  Betcha they sooo wanted to move into the &#8220;house&#8221; from the &#8220;field&#8221;!!!!  But, as the records show, billary can&#8217;t AFFORD any house based on their DEBT!  For real now &#8211; &#8220;GET OVER IT!!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: KarmiCommunist</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22645</link>
		<dc:creator>KarmiCommunist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, James Cone, and Jeremiah Wright.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGjJJhHvqY&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Muslim Black slavery - Islam slave history of Black Africa&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: Elijah Muhammad, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, James Cone, and Jeremiah Wright.</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGjJJhHvqY" REL="nofollow">Muslim Black slavery &#8211; Islam slave history of Black Africa</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sepia</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22644</link>
		<dc:creator>Sepia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Truthseeker:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here&#039;s what it is: They see that Obama winning the nomination is the beginning of the end of the Old School Black Leadership strong hold on political power in the Black community. Not only is Obama now the leader of the Democratic Party, he&#039;s the leader of the New School Black Leadership. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Watson and her crew see that the show is about over for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Truthseeker:</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what it is: They see that Obama winning the nomination is the beginning of the end of the Old School Black Leadership strong hold on political power in the Black community. Not only is Obama now the leader of the Democratic Party, he&#8217;s the leader of the New School Black Leadership. </p>
<p>Watson and her crew see that the show is about over for them.</p>
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		<title>By: KarmiCommunist</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22643</link>
		<dc:creator>KarmiCommunist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/06/22/do2201.xml&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;History will say that we misunderestimated George W Bush&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;America’s left is so blinded by their own hatred of ‘&lt;b&gt;W&lt;/b&gt;’ that they have been unable to see or even understand the facts since the election of 2000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a HREF="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2008/06/22/do2201.xml" REL="nofollow">History will say that we misunderestimated George W Bush</a></p>
<p>America’s left is so blinded by their own hatred of ‘<b>W</b>’ that they have been unable to see or even understand the facts since the election of 2000.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22642</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is for Michelle and heartsandflowers in particular and all of you in general:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/13830/4343/811/540243&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I got your back Barack!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Pour yourself some libation, whatever that may be, before you click on the link.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for Michelle and heartsandflowers in particular and all of you in general:</p>
<p><a HREF="http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/22/13830/4343/811/540243" REL="nofollow">I got your back Barack!</a></p>
<p>Pour yourself some libation, whatever that may be, before you click on the link.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22637</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You know I was joking.  But seriously, Diane Watson must have lost her mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah</p>
<p>You know I was joking.  But seriously, Diane Watson must have lost her mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glenn Loury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Loury.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/06/sunday-open-thread-6/comment-page-1/#comment-22629</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Moyers is interviewing Orlando Patterson and another man whose name escapes me about Barack&#039;s Father&#039;s Day speech.</description>
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