Is there room for moderates in the Daily Kos/moveon/code pink party?

Not if you listen to the far-left wing of the party who think they own the party lock, stock and barrel, and who will kick out members of their own party who do not tow their line.

Joe Leiberman was handed his hat and kicked out the door by anti-war activists. Do you think he is alone in his thinking and positions on the war and foreign policy? Now he has announced the creation of “Citizens for McCain,” hoping bring moderates to McCain.

Women who voted for Hillary primarily to advance the feminist cause, will vote Obama.

But what about moderate Democrats?
When compared to Obama, is McCain such an unacceptable choice?

Obama needs to make it clear that he will not be forced to do anything against his will. He’s calling the shots now.

He will pick whomever he chooses to be his veep. And, yes, that includes the possibility of picking someone like Gov. Sebelius if he wants. This idea that Hillary’s the ONLY woman he can choose is rediculous. Gender has nothing to do with why Obama probably won’t pick Hillary. It has everything to do with chemistry and TRUST. . . two traits that he could surely find in another woman who is qualified for the job.

Rachel Maddow had a really good point the other day. She actually thinks that these “angry Clinton supporters” are a lot smaller in number than people think. She thinks that number will shrink dramatically in the coming months. Let’s not forget that Obama got over 18 million votes as well. And I’m willing to bet that at least 60% of all Clinton supporter will have no problem backing Obama in the fall. That 60% will increase dramatically over the next few months. The world is bigger than the Harriet Christians of the world. Obama shouldn’t waste much time on people like her. . . extend the olive branch; cut your losses and move forward.

Again, this is OBAMA’s party now. Think about it. All of those surrogates and Democratic pundits will have no choice but to pivot to the general election to attack McCain and DEFEND Obama. To the victor go the spoils.

This is not about Hillary anymore. And her former surrogates will have a VERY difficult time justifying anything less than the utmost respect and support for their party’s nominee, Senator Obama.

Likewise, Hillary will have a lot of explaining to do once the Republicans start using her words against Obama (in fact they’ve already started). So when the Republicans use the “Commander in Chief” test or 3:00AM ad, guess where all eyes are gonna turn??? That’s right. . . they’re gonna turn right towards Senator Clinton. She’s gonna have to eat a lot of crow this summer. Her political future depends on it.

Finally, I think it’d be a big mistake if Obama made a major speech on gender/sexism. Hillary started talking about sexism in late May when it was clear that she was gonna lose. It was one of her many attempts to deligitimize Obama’s victory. A major speech on sexism would basically concede the point . . . “Hillary lost because of sexism” which is the same as saying, “I only won because of sexism” which is the same as saying, “My victory is not legitimate.”

I hate to give the following guy credit, but he’s right on this one point: Dick Morris always says that the one thing a president has is the ability to set the news cycle. As far as I see it, that same privilege extends to the party nominees. From here on out, Obama (not Clinton) sets the news cycle. . .he sets the direction for the party.

This is on Obama now. He needs to send the talking point that this was a fair process. He needs to make sure that his surrogates (including former Clinton surrogates) exonerate him from any anger her supporters had against the media.

That’s ALL surrogates, whether they’re long time Obama supporters like Claire McCaskill or former Clinton supporters like Ed Rendell. As of yesterday, they ALL became Obama surrogates. He needs to use them accordingly.

The 350,000 e-mail messages that Mrs. Clinton received after soliciting supporters on Tuesday include “an overwhelming chorus of ‘We want you to continue to be our leader,’ ” said Ann Lewis, a Clinton adviser.

Well, that “overwhelming chorus” there just might be based on the fact that the emails were from a form on her site that itself forced anyone signing to say they stand by Ms. Hillary.

After seeing a comment somewhere that that was just a way to try to get more money, I signed on with a bogus email stating my real perspective, even if the form didn’t allow me to actually speak it. I did this bc wanted to see if it was true that the form led right to the give money page. It did.

Another thing about that form. It only required email address and zip code. It had fields for names but these were not required.

It didn’t care if people gave names. Didn’t require it. All it required was email addresses and zip codes to mine for future $ asks.

IMO that whole thing was a big scam and the numbers don’t mean s*** as far as I’m concerned. I would take this with a grain of salt. Someone needs to VET this claim.

Also: this? The key, Ms. McCaskill said, is approaching Mrs. Clinton’s supporters with utmost humility.

IMO, they want deference. That is what Black people are supposed to give. Maybe they will prove me wrong on this.

PS No seriously this new DSL thing we have here in my house is fast!

what makes you think we are NOT focused on winning in November? I assure you, it is entirely possible to think along two lines at the same time.

Clinton Bloc Becomes the Prize for Election Day

Even the Democratic National Committee chairman is avidly trying to make up for accusations that he allowed sexism in the race to pass unchallenged.

“We all get over it when our candidates don’t win,” he said. “What you don’t get over is feeling like you’ve been insulted by some of the leading institutions in America and no one said anything about it.

No Lisa, he should NOT deploy her among Latino’s, white working class and women voters! I can’t see how obama could utilize her to any great degree without undermining his own run.

Caputo probably wasn’t offered a job at Camp Obama…..

Craig, I noticed that too!

It’s not like they can never do anything good, it’s just that it’s time for new people to have their turn.

RE: anti-unity rants. . .

Talk about an alternate reality. Those arguments aren’t based in any sense of logic or truth. They’re just saying whatever helps them sleep at night.

You can’t save some people. Sometimes you gotta let go and let God.

Just take comfort in the fact that we won and they lost. They can lie all they want, but we can’t waste time on the Harriet Christians of the world. Although I keep a watchful eye, I refuse to let them waste my time.

I don’t doubt that some are truly disappointed and just need time to vent before they come back to their senses. I’m cool with that.

But, at the same time, don’t be fooled. You got a lot of haters out there. Don’t feed the trolls.

At this point, their only hope is to do everything they can to try and steal your joy. That’s all they got left. Don’t let them do it. This is history in the making. The victory is sweet and well-earned. Savor the moment and get ready for the general election.

As for the haters???

Go and brush yo’ shoulders off!

“The Democratic Party is divided because the people in charge played fast and loose with the rules, disenfranchising voters in 2 states, discounting the desires of whole segments of the population in favor of the AA and youth vote, and allowing the sexism Hillary encountered to go unchecked.

I will not be voting for Democrats in November except for my Congresswoman, Stephanie Tubbs Jones, who stood with Hillary throughout the campaign.

Thank you, Ms. Tubbs Jones.”

And this:

“Take Obama for instance: With everything that has gone on in this campaign, the cheating, manipulation, deception, intimidation, data mining and backroom dealings, is there any thinking person who thinks Obama will be changing the Bush administration? The only change is that this anointed candidate is black which to many is the extent of “CHANGE”. For those who really are not racist enough to look at a person as a human being, Obama is not the answer to our country’s problems.

Then my next question is, how can so-called leaders force him down our throats? Is it because Hillary is Real Change and she has promised to examine/review all govt. contracts, no-bid contracts and everything financial connected with the Iraq war? Is this what really scared the invisible powers running our country? The same ones who control the banks, the insurance companies, the oil consortiums, AND the media?

And so they create this cultist personality and keep people from really thinking, so that they would applaud someone with their votes ala choosing a winner in “Dancing with the Stars” or American Idol?

Not only is the democratic party divided; the whole country has been divided into factions. Hillary has been backed into a corner and pressured into throwing her support behind Obama. But if others like me have sent letters to her campaign, she also knows that our support is non-transferable.”

These are some crazy, racist MFers. They defected from DailyKos-thank goodness. Cause if they didn’t I wouldn’t be able to read their stuff. It’s weird.

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/why-is-the-party-divided/#comments

No Lisa, he should NOT deploy her among Latino’s, white working class and women voters! I can’t see how obama could utilize her to any great degree without undermining his own run.

Town,

You have been cracking me up.