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	<title>Comments on: Operation Anti-Chaos: The Narrative on &#8216; White Voters&#8217; is FICTION</title>
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		<title>By: jazzence</title>
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		<dc:creator>jazzence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got into a argument on DailyKos with some fool who claimed in the same breath to be the champion of Black voters then turns around and says the only reason Blacks are voting for Obama is because he&#039;s black. Oh yeah, and then the author claims he&#039;s black and therefore can&#039;t be racist when I call him on his bs. I am sick and tired of explaining myself to these narrow-minded, bigoted people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got into a argument on DailyKos with some fool who claimed in the same breath to be the champion of Black voters then turns around and says the only reason Blacks are voting for Obama is because he&#8217;s black. Oh yeah, and then the author claims he&#8217;s black and therefore can&#8217;t be racist when I call him on his bs. I am sick and tired of explaining myself to these narrow-minded, bigoted people.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 13:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Ron Paul likes Obama&#039;s foreign policy philosophy.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Speaking of Ron Paul ... did the media make inferences about white surpremacy associations in the wake of his white supremacist donors, the way they infer that Barack&#039;s a potential Black militance based upon his associations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Ron Paul likes Obama&#8217;s foreign policy philosophy.</i></p>
<p>Speaking of Ron Paul &#8230; did the media make inferences about white surpremacy associations in the wake of his white supremacist donors, the way they infer that Barack&#8217;s a potential Black militance based upon his associations?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 05:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teacher&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;She is up to something.  She has already shown she cares nothing about the Dems.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I think if they don&#039;t give it to her she&#039;s going postal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher</p>
<p>She is up to something.  She has already shown she cares nothing about the Dems.</p>
<p>I think if they don&#8217;t give it to her she&#8217;s going postal.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig &amp; Truthseeker, I have thought for a while now that Hillbilly *might* try to get on the ticket with McoCaine as his VP. If he declines, which he might, then I think she will try to run as an independant, aka the Clinton party. Of course she will be a spoiler for Obama if it happens, but most people won&#039;t care.&lt;br/&gt;Rikyrah, as for financing, I think she would get some public support and that she would self-finance the rest, like she is doing now, or by illegal means like they have always done. Who is going to ask about it or call for an investigation? With the media on her side I&#039;m sure it won&#039;t be too hard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig &#038; Truthseeker, I have thought for a while now that Hillbilly *might* try to get on the ticket with McoCaine as his VP. If he declines, which he might, then I think she will try to run as an independant, aka the Clinton party. Of course she will be a spoiler for Obama if it happens, but most people won&#8217;t care.<br />Rikyrah, as for financing, I think she would get some public support and that she would self-finance the rest, like she is doing now, or by illegal means like they have always done. Who is going to ask about it or call for an investigation? With the media on her side I&#8217;m sure it won&#8217;t be too hard.</p>
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		<title>By: texas girl in l.a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>texas girl in l.a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 03:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Indianapolis: Pre-JJ Dinner Rally for Obama&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4z92ZwqAs&amp;eurl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out!</p>
<p>Indianapolis: Pre-JJ Dinner Rally for Obama</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4z92ZwqAs&#038;eurl" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O4z92ZwqAs&#038;eurl</a></p>
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		<title>By: Texas Girl in L.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Girl in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;yep!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah,</p>
<p>yep!</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texas girl,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;she&#039;ll destroy the party rather than give up. but, then, we&#039;ve always known that, didn&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texas girl,</p>
<p>she&#8217;ll destroy the party rather than give up. but, then, we&#8217;ve always known that, didn&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This story is posted by a visitor to http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-10793 &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;IF A PASTOR IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP! When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sexual-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said , Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified. Okay, so now that Bill and Hillary Clinton&#039;&#039;s pastor has been convicted of child molestation, will we see the same furor directed at Hillary that Obama has had to endure these last few weeks? IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE PASTOR THEY KEEP ...... Then you need to email this article to everyone you know. Here the CLINTON&#039;&#039;S Pastor is convicted of child molestation. So, if Obama bears the guilt for his pastor&#039;&#039;s comments, then Hillary has to be equally tainted by this guy&#039;&#039;s crimes. &lt;br/&gt;CBS news....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This story is posted by a visitor to <a href="http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-10793" rel="nofollow">http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-10793</a> </p>
<p>IF A PASTOR IS KNOWN BY THE COMPANY THEY KEEP! When the Rev. William Procanick put his hand on the Bible during his sexual-abuse trial in Oneida County Court earlier this year, he swore to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. But as the former Clinton pastor was sentenced Friday to three years in prison for inappropriately touching a 7-year-old girl at his home last March, Judge Michael L. Dwyer said , Procanick sacrificed his honesty the day he testified. Okay, so now that Bill and Hillary Clinton&#8217;&#8217;s pastor has been convicted of child molestation, will we see the same furor directed at Hillary that Obama has had to endure these last few weeks? IF A CANDIDATE IS KNOWN BY THE PASTOR THEY KEEP &#8230;&#8230; Then you need to email this article to everyone you know. Here the CLINTON&#8221;S Pastor is convicted of child molestation. So, if Obama bears the guilt for his pastor&#8217;&#8217;s comments, then Hillary has to be equally tainted by this guy&#8217;&#8217;s crimes. <br />CBS news&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mrs. Nixon is preparing to run as McCain&#039;s runningmate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. Nixon is preparing to run as McCain&#8217;s runningmate.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Hickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Hickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 01:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rikyrah, Indiana is a red state historically. But in the latest poll, Obama was up 50 to 41 over McCain.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain just isn&#039;t red enough for a lot of red states.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;People think I&#039;m crazy up north, but my southern friends agree that Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia will be in play if Obama is the nominee.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That sounds unthinkable, and no one is saying Obama will win any of them, but look what just happened in Louisiana.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rikyrah, Indiana is a red state historically. But in the latest poll, Obama was up 50 to 41 over McCain.</p>
<p>McCain just isn&#8217;t red enough for a lot of red states.</p>
<p>People think I&#8217;m crazy up north, but my southern friends agree that Louisiana, Mississippi, and Georgia will be in play if Obama is the nominee.</p>
<p>That sounds unthinkable, and no one is saying Obama will win any of them, but look what just happened in Louisiana.</p>
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		<title>By: andyfrombrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyfrombrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 00:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huffington post has a scary story about clinton&#039;s nuclear bomb to push to seat florida and michigan. this is an angry woman. bomb iran, bomb the party. then she adds economic scholars and advisers to her insult list. elitists who stand in the way of her pander. poor paul krugman his boss is such a bitch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huffington post has a scary story about clinton&#8217;s nuclear bomb to push to seat florida and michigan. this is an angry woman. bomb iran, bomb the party. then she adds economic scholars and advisers to her insult list. elitists who stand in the way of her pander. poor paul krugman his boss is such a bitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Girl in L.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Girl in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lexusoakland,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;oh noo..I think you beat me to it. Anyway, I wonder who will have a backbone to tell her to sit down somewhere. If that doesn&#039;t happen, then you know that the party is going down the tubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lexusoakland,</p>
<p>oh noo..I think you beat me to it. Anyway, I wonder who will have a backbone to tell her to sit down somewhere. If that doesn&#8217;t happen, then you know that the party is going down the tubes.</p>
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		<title>By: lexusOakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexusOakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>texas girl, I missed it when you posted it... glad you got it out there. It is scary; especially when one considers what will be left of the party if she pulls it off... scorched earth comes to mind....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>texas girl, I missed it when you posted it&#8230; glad you got it out there. It is scary; especially when one considers what will be left of the party if she pulls it off&#8230; scorched earth comes to mind&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Texas Girl in L.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Texas Girl in L.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lexusoakland,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I just posted the HuffPo story in the above section. This is just scary. It tells us more and more that this is something personal for her and not the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lexusoakland,</p>
<p>I just posted the HuffPo story in the above section. This is just scary. It tells us more and more that this is something personal for her and not the party.</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 23:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure her supporters wouldn&#039;t be nuts enough to continue to donate.  What I thought of was something like a coup in the Democratic party where a section of fundraisers etc. would break off and go with Hillary.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe it&#039;s just an overactive imagination, but I can&#039;t figure out what she&#039;s holding out for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure her supporters wouldn&#8217;t be nuts enough to continue to donate.  What I thought of was something like a coup in the Democratic party where a section of fundraisers etc. would break off and go with Hillary.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s just an overactive imagination, but I can&#8217;t figure out what she&#8217;s holding out for.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where would she get the money from, truthseeker?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where would she get the money from, truthseeker?</p>
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		<title>By: TruthSeeker</title>
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		<dc:creator>TruthSeeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think it possible Clinton would ignore the nomination and continue to run..as an independent perhaps?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think it possible Clinton would ignore the nomination and continue to run..as an independent perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: lexusOakland</title>
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		<dc:creator>lexusOakland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just picked this up off Clif Schecter&#039;s site http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=9612; the original article is on Huffington. This is sick and frightening, and demonstrates there is NO limit to the Clinton&#039;s determination to have the Whitehouse. We all knew it, but even when it seems the layers have been exposed (at least to those who are watching), it continues to unfold... or peel away like a rotten onion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just picked this up off Clif Schecter&#8217;s site <a href="http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=9612" rel="nofollow">http://agonist.org/schecter/?p=9612</a>; the original article is on Huffington. This is sick and frightening, and demonstrates there is NO limit to the Clinton&#8217;s determination to have the Whitehouse. We all knew it, but even when it seems the layers have been exposed (at least to those who are watching), it continues to unfold&#8230; or peel away like a rotten onion.</p>
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		<title>By: GoldenAh</title>
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		<dc:creator>GoldenAh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading Peggy N. and Frank R. I have to admit I&#039;m surprised they &quot;got it.&quot; Paraphrasing a quote from previous comments, either the other media political players are mendacious or stupid. I think both.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My take on the Appalachian voter (having met my share of these folks in the past): they don&#039;t &quot;know&quot; Obama. They stick with familiarity. They aren&#039;t going to pay as much attention, or be as informed as the average voter. And most people (probably) vote at the last moment for a candidate based on impressions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I wouldn&#039;t expect them to vote for him. They know and identify with the &quot;old&quot; Billary. I actually believe Obama could reach them via religion (Christian push), but I doubt he has enough time to do it.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Frankly, any votes from them over 25%-30% for Obama would be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading Peggy N. and Frank R. I have to admit I&#8217;m surprised they &#8220;got it.&#8221; Paraphrasing a quote from previous comments, either the other media political players are mendacious or stupid. I think both.</p>
<p>My take on the Appalachian voter (having met my share of these folks in the past): they don&#8217;t &#8220;know&#8221; Obama. They stick with familiarity. They aren&#8217;t going to pay as much attention, or be as informed as the average voter. And most people (probably) vote at the last moment for a candidate based on impressions.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t expect them to vote for him. They know and identify with the &#8220;old&#8221; Billary. I actually believe Obama could reach them via religion (Christian push), but I doubt he has enough time to do it.</p>
<p>Frankly, any votes from them over 25%-30% for Obama would be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: rikyrah</title>
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		<dc:creator>rikyrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My favorite point of Wilder&#039;s was to point out how much the right wing was supporting Hillpatine and he asked WHY were they doing that?</description>
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