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	<title>Comments on: DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee Meeting Open Thread</title>
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		<title>By: Pamela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teacher to answer your questions as to why I am a Republican....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Everyone assumes that because I am black I should be a Democrat.   I never liked the idea that no one considered what issues actually affect me or which parties values may align better with my personal values.  It&#039;s always you are black so you must be a Democrat. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But why?  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not a big fan of social programs. I believe that people can succeed by working hard, getting the best education possible and believing in themselves, and taking personal responsibilty for their actions. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am conservative. I am Catholic. I have strong family values. I don&#039;t believe in divorce. I believe a child raised in a home with two parents is better then one. I don&#039;t believe in abortion (for myself, although I think a woman should be able to do what she wants with her body).  I want lower taxes.  I want less government intervention.  I&#039;m a military brat, have tremendous respect for our men and woman in uniform and think that this country should have big defense organization. However I think we should get the hell out of Iraq and knowing what I know now I don&#039;t think we should have ever gone in.  But I admit in the beginning I was cheering the war.  Yep, I feel stupid for that one.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The Republican party aligns with a lot of my interests and beliefs, although not all of them.  And there are many extreme right-wing members of the party that I can&#039;t stand, Hannity comes to mind.  But people really fit into more then two groups so you are going to run into extremists no matter what party you affliate with.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have never seen the Democratic party, who has 90% support from our community, really worry about listening to what black people are really saying and really, why should they, they are going to get 90% of the vote no matter what.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Imagine the voting power if people actually thought about why they were Democrats and more found that they are more Independent then they originally thought or even more Conservative.  If the Republican party thought they had a chance to win a significant part of the black community then voices would be heard.  If the Democrats thought they would lose a significant part of the black community then voices would be heard. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And I always hear, Republicans don&#039;t like black people.  I don&#039;t think Republicans are any more racists then Democrats, we can see that from this election.  Hell, the Clinton&#039;s are the ones that are suppose to be down with us so imagine what everyone else is thinking.  I&#039;m not sure where that argument started but it&#039;s pointless.  Some people are just idiots and they come in all shapes, sizes and affiliations..&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;At the end of the day I vote for the best candidate and right now I think that is Obama.  I disagree with some of his policies and am dreading my taxes going up but the war is a big issue for me so I&#039;ll suck it up.  I also think his ability to inspire people of all races young and old is what our country needs right now because it&#039;s been a rough couple of years.  And on top of it all I do want to see a black President.  And I think he is going to be great in the position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher to answer your questions as to why I am a Republican&#8230;.</p>
<p>Everyone assumes that because I am black I should be a Democrat.   I never liked the idea that no one considered what issues actually affect me or which parties values may align better with my personal values.  It&#8217;s always you are black so you must be a Democrat. </p>
<p>But why?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of social programs. I believe that people can succeed by working hard, getting the best education possible and believing in themselves, and taking personal responsibilty for their actions. </p>
<p>I am conservative. I am Catholic. I have strong family values. I don&#8217;t believe in divorce. I believe a child raised in a home with two parents is better then one. I don&#8217;t believe in abortion (for myself, although I think a woman should be able to do what she wants with her body).  I want lower taxes.  I want less government intervention.  I&#8217;m a military brat, have tremendous respect for our men and woman in uniform and think that this country should have big defense organization. However I think we should get the hell out of Iraq and knowing what I know now I don&#8217;t think we should have ever gone in.  But I admit in the beginning I was cheering the war.  Yep, I feel stupid for that one.</p>
<p>The Republican party aligns with a lot of my interests and beliefs, although not all of them.  And there are many extreme right-wing members of the party that I can&#8217;t stand, Hannity comes to mind.  But people really fit into more then two groups so you are going to run into extremists no matter what party you affliate with.</p>
<p>I have never seen the Democratic party, who has 90% support from our community, really worry about listening to what black people are really saying and really, why should they, they are going to get 90% of the vote no matter what.</p>
<p>Imagine the voting power if people actually thought about why they were Democrats and more found that they are more Independent then they originally thought or even more Conservative.  If the Republican party thought they had a chance to win a significant part of the black community then voices would be heard.  If the Democrats thought they would lose a significant part of the black community then voices would be heard. </p>
<p>And I always hear, Republicans don&#8217;t like black people.  I don&#8217;t think Republicans are any more racists then Democrats, we can see that from this election.  Hell, the Clinton&#8217;s are the ones that are suppose to be down with us so imagine what everyone else is thinking.  I&#8217;m not sure where that argument started but it&#8217;s pointless.  Some people are just idiots and they come in all shapes, sizes and affiliations..</p>
<p>At the end of the day I vote for the best candidate and right now I think that is Obama.  I disagree with some of his policies and am dreading my taxes going up but the war is a big issue for me so I&#8217;ll suck it up.  I also think his ability to inspire people of all races young and old is what our country needs right now because it&#8217;s been a rough couple of years.  And on top of it all I do want to see a black President.  And I think he is going to be great in the position.</p>
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		<title>By: Devon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: andyfrombrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyfrombrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>obama&#039;s hillary plan is a slow and steady suffocation. no stake to the heart. just patient and building pressure. &lt;br/&gt;    it is working.&lt;br/&gt;          he knows what he is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>obama&#8217;s hillary plan is a slow and steady suffocation. no stake to the heart. just patient and building pressure. <br />    it is working.<br />          he knows what he is doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronnie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ronnie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a sad party.  If it weren&#039;t for Barack, I&#039;d have nothing to do with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a sad party.  If it weren&#8217;t for Barack, I&#8217;d have nothing to do with them.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This party is a disaster. I would not go back to the Dem. Party if you paid me. What I find even more sicking is the role Senator Clinton played in all this. She really showed who she is. It&#039;s one thing to have people believe the worst in you it&#039;s another to prove them all right. After years and years of accusing the media of being biased against her, of being treated badly because she&#039;s a woman and a liberal, with one election season Senator Clinton basically proved that almost everything said about her by the &quot;nut job right wingers&quot; was true. She&#039;s petty, vindictive, and disloyal. She doesn&#039;t give a shit about democracy or unity. If she can get a vote she will do anything.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is truly a pathetic showing and will be remembered for generations as the most depressing spectical the Democratic Party has ever put on. They don&#039;t deserve Senator Obama.&lt;br/&gt;________&lt;br/&gt;Agreed. A mouthful of the truth. In the end he may have been better off running as an independent because with this party behind you it is hard to recognize the opposition. I am holding my breath for the moment they figure out a way to give the nomination away to the &quot;inevitable&quot; Queen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This party is a disaster. I would not go back to the Dem. Party if you paid me. What I find even more sicking is the role Senator Clinton played in all this. She really showed who she is. It&#8217;s one thing to have people believe the worst in you it&#8217;s another to prove them all right. After years and years of accusing the media of being biased against her, of being treated badly because she&#8217;s a woman and a liberal, with one election season Senator Clinton basically proved that almost everything said about her by the &#8220;nut job right wingers&#8221; was true. She&#8217;s petty, vindictive, and disloyal. She doesn&#8217;t give a shit about democracy or unity. If she can get a vote she will do anything.</p>
<p>This is truly a pathetic showing and will be remembered for generations as the most depressing spectical the Democratic Party has ever put on. They don&#8217;t deserve Senator Obama.<br />________<br />Agreed. A mouthful of the truth. In the end he may have been better off running as an independent because with this party behind you it is hard to recognize the opposition. I am holding my breath for the moment they figure out a way to give the nomination away to the &#8220;inevitable&#8221; Queen.</p>
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		<title>By: teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Plantsmantx! I saw that youtube link you posted...Geraldine Ferraro in about 2 years. I sure hope to see hellory denounce &amp; repudiate this old heffer with a quickness! It&#039;s very sad though.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Webb, she is not going to quit without taking a stake to the heart. I posted earlier that O might have to slam her, even though he truly doesn&#039;t want to. He may have to pick between winning or not winning. Rachel M. has said it several times &amp; I agree, she is looking for all excuses to take it to the convention. pat buchanan has stated that she can be voted onto the ticket as VP against Obama&#039;s will!!! All she needs to do is have someone bring it up. I don&#039;t want to see O make any concessions to this witch, but if he does, who can blame him? There might be a lot to lose if he doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Plantsmantx! I saw that youtube link you posted&#8230;Geraldine Ferraro in about 2 years. I sure hope to see hellory denounce &#038; repudiate this old heffer with a quickness! It&#8217;s very sad though.</p>
<p>Webb, she is not going to quit without taking a stake to the heart. I posted earlier that O might have to slam her, even though he truly doesn&#8217;t want to. He may have to pick between winning or not winning. Rachel M. has said it several times &#038; I agree, she is looking for all excuses to take it to the convention. pat buchanan has stated that she can be voted onto the ticket as VP against Obama&#8217;s will!!! All she needs to do is have someone bring it up. I don&#8217;t want to see O make any concessions to this witch, but if he does, who can blame him? There might be a lot to lose if he doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pamela or any other rebublican, why are you republican? What is your attraction to that particular party? I&#039;m not sure I know any Black republicans. What does the party have to offer African americans, if anything?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Delusional, I think you are distorting &amp; exaggerating people&#039;s support of Obama. No one is worshipping him, at least as far as I can tell. S&#039;matter of fact, AA&#039;s didn&#039;t really get on his bandwagon until he started winning among White people. I&#039;ve stated several times on this blog that I was 60-40 in favor of hellory at the beginning. I also liked Richardson &amp; Edwards, &amp; lastly Dodd &amp; Huckabee. I was totally open to being wowed &amp; wooed. Before Obama, I had never donated to a political campaign in my life. I barely even vote! But I have been impressed with O&#039;s integrity, intellect &amp; organization. I have also been deepy offended by hellory&#039;s lack of same. How could I support her after the race baiting (she &amp; billy insulted my whole race!)? How could I support McCain when he says that he is going to extend a war that I don&#039;t agree with? I don&#039;t know anything about Barr, but from what I know of Libertarians, I would not be inclined to be one or vote for one. I lean more toward socialism. Everyone has their own story on how they came to prefer O to become president, and this is mine. As others have mentioned, you are obviously angry about something, though I haven&#039;t been able to ascertain what Obama has to do with it. I&#039;m not sure why all those white women hate him either, except that they believed hillbilly&#039;s spin.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Please don&#039;t refer to anyone by the N word. It&#039;s just not right to use that word, friend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pamela or any other rebublican, why are you republican? What is your attraction to that particular party? I&#8217;m not sure I know any Black republicans. What does the party have to offer African americans, if anything?</p>
<p>Delusional, I think you are distorting &#038; exaggerating people&#8217;s support of Obama. No one is worshipping him, at least as far as I can tell. S&#8217;matter of fact, AA&#8217;s didn&#8217;t really get on his bandwagon until he started winning among White people. I&#8217;ve stated several times on this blog that I was 60-40 in favor of hellory at the beginning. I also liked Richardson &#038; Edwards, &#038; lastly Dodd &#038; Huckabee. I was totally open to being wowed &#038; wooed. Before Obama, I had never donated to a political campaign in my life. I barely even vote! But I have been impressed with O&#8217;s integrity, intellect &#038; organization. I have also been deepy offended by hellory&#8217;s lack of same. How could I support her after the race baiting (she &#038; billy insulted my whole race!)? How could I support McCain when he says that he is going to extend a war that I don&#8217;t agree with? I don&#8217;t know anything about Barr, but from what I know of Libertarians, I would not be inclined to be one or vote for one. I lean more toward socialism. Everyone has their own story on how they came to prefer O to become president, and this is mine. As others have mentioned, you are obviously angry about something, though I haven&#8217;t been able to ascertain what Obama has to do with it. I&#8217;m not sure why all those white women hate him either, except that they believed hillbilly&#8217;s spin.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t refer to anyone by the N word. It&#8217;s just not right to use that word, friend.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree Andy, but I wouldn&#039;t even give that chick the honor of a comparison the Blanch DuBois...at least Blanch is funny.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;My greatest fear is that Hillary will play/spin her defeat in such a way that she thinks she&#039;s Nicole Simpson and *O* is...dare I even say this...OJ.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In that case, the Democratic Party will SURELY BE DESTROYED...even if *O* gets the nomination only to lose b/c Hillary didn&#039;t step up and campaign for him...thinking she would get another chance in 2012...YES, this party will be a wrap.  If *O* is not victorious, AAs need to start exploring our options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Andy, but I wouldn&#8217;t even give that chick the honor of a comparison the Blanch DuBois&#8230;at least Blanch is funny.</p>
<p>My greatest fear is that Hillary will play/spin her defeat in such a way that she thinks she&#8217;s Nicole Simpson and *O* is&#8230;dare I even say this&#8230;OJ.  </p>
<p>In that case, the Democratic Party will SURELY BE DESTROYED&#8230;even if *O* gets the nomination only to lose b/c Hillary didn&#8217;t step up and campaign for him&#8230;thinking she would get another chance in 2012&#8230;YES, this party will be a wrap.  If *O* is not victorious, AAs need to start exploring our options.</p>
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		<title>By: texas girl in l.a.</title>
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		<dc:creator>texas girl in l.a.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plantsmantx!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was just about to post that clip. Looks like someone was taking a little sippy sip during the restroom breaks.</description>
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<p>I was just about to post that clip. Looks like someone was taking a little sippy sip during the restroom breaks.</p>
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		<title>By: andyfrombrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyfrombrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>webb, you know this morning i was thinking how the excitement of winning had been dulled by the drawn out and disputed contest. but just now reading the words concede, gasoline, matches, chick, and gracefull exit...i am getting kind of excited again.  how bad will it get? i am hoping she makes an even greater ass of herself. she is a little bit tanya harding and a little bit blanche du bois. didn&#039;t tanya harding do porn movies as she crashed and burned. crash and burn hillary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>webb, you know this morning i was thinking how the excitement of winning had been dulled by the drawn out and disputed contest. but just now reading the words concede, gasoline, matches, chick, and gracefull exit&#8230;i am getting kind of excited again.  how bad will it get? i am hoping she makes an even greater ass of herself. she is a little bit tanya harding and a little bit blanche du bois. didn&#8217;t tanya harding do porn movies as she crashed and burned. crash and burn hillary!</p>
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		<title>By: Plantsmantx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plantsmantx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hillary&#039;s supporters really made her look bad.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You have a gift for understatement:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;One more thing- The fact that Steve Geller, the thuggish clown of a Florida state Senate Democratic leader, based the lawsuit he just filed on the idea that the DNC violated the Voting Rights Act against Florida blacks is a digusting slap in the face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hillary&#8217;s supporters really made her look bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>You have a gift for understatement:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KACQuZVAE3s</a></p>
<p>One more thing- The fact that Steve Geller, the thuggish clown of a Florida state Senate Democratic leader, based the lawsuit he just filed on the idea that the DNC violated the Voting Rights Act against Florida blacks is a digusting slap in the face.</p>
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		<title>By: N. Mahana</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. Mahana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey JJP!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I am so fucken glad I did not watch a minute of today&#039;s coverage I might have went postal when I went out to do my errands today.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I will tell you this ... Civil War or not, Hillary seems to care little about helping others and all about helping herself to the Presidency.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m beginning to think a HRC Presidency would be Bush lite. Which would only be a small step up from McCain (who is simply a smarter, Braver, angrier Bush).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Funny ... those comments about Hillary wanting to run in 2012 by destroying Obama, doesn&#039;t seem too far off the mark now ... does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey JJP!</p>
<p>I am so fucken glad I did not watch a minute of today&#8217;s coverage I might have went postal when I went out to do my errands today.</p>
<p>I will tell you this &#8230; Civil War or not, Hillary seems to care little about helping others and all about helping herself to the Presidency.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m beginning to think a HRC Presidency would be Bush lite. Which would only be a small step up from McCain (who is simply a smarter, Braver, angrier Bush).</p>
<p>Funny &#8230; those comments about Hillary wanting to run in 2012 by destroying Obama, doesn&#8217;t seem too far off the mark now &#8230; does it?</p>
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		<title>By: B-Serious</title>
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		<dc:creator>B-Serious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a good day for Obama.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Hillary can whine and complain all she wants.  Fact is, we&#039;ve got a stable &quot;magic number.&quot;  And Obama is well within reach.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;He can pass that number this week--possibly by Tuesday (Chuck Todd was on top of this stuff). &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Once he crosses that line the nomination is his.  And Hillary can&#039;t do anything about that.  2117 means he&#039;s the nominee.  End of story. . . end of Democratic primary.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The genius behind all of this is, now, Hillary is on the outside looking in.  Her whole argument was to count MI and FL so they&#039;re represented at the convention.  Well, that&#039;s a dead issue now.  They have representation.  And both of the compromises were made with full support of the FL and MI state Democrats.  Hillary&#039;s all by herself.  She&#039;s lost whatever moral highground she had.  Now, it&#039;s just her and her partisans.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Party unity?  For now, Obama just needs to focus on registering new voters and GOTV.  He can win despite the sour grapes coming from some Clinton supporters.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;P.S.  Hillary&#039;s supporters really made her look bad.  I would LOVE to see the media talk about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a good day for Obama.  </p>
<p>Hillary can whine and complain all she wants.  Fact is, we&#8217;ve got a stable &#8220;magic number.&#8221;  And Obama is well within reach.</p>
<p>He can pass that number this week&#8211;possibly by Tuesday (Chuck Todd was on top of this stuff). </p>
<p>Once he crosses that line the nomination is his.  And Hillary can&#8217;t do anything about that.  2117 means he&#8217;s the nominee.  End of story. . . end of Democratic primary.</p>
<p>The genius behind all of this is, now, Hillary is on the outside looking in.  Her whole argument was to count MI and FL so they&#8217;re represented at the convention.  Well, that&#8217;s a dead issue now.  They have representation.  And both of the compromises were made with full support of the FL and MI state Democrats.  Hillary&#8217;s all by herself.  She&#8217;s lost whatever moral highground she had.  Now, it&#8217;s just her and her partisans.</p>
<p>Party unity?  For now, Obama just needs to focus on registering new voters and GOTV.  He can win despite the sour grapes coming from some Clinton supporters.</p>
<p>P.S.  Hillary&#8217;s supporters really made her look bad.  I would LOVE to see the media talk about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/05/dnc-rules-and-bylaws-committee-meeting-open-thread/comment-page-4/#comment-17715</link>
		<dc:creator>Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was ancient-ass, presumptive-CBS-News-Anchor-b4-Katie-got-the-job John Roberts and he needs to stay da f*ck away from the map.  They need to turn the map off when John King isn&#039;t in the building.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WhyTF are Ickes/Clintons arguing over FOUR delegates...the difference between 73 and 69 in Michigan...actually two when you count them in halves.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We all need to face the reality that the CHICK ain&#039;t going to have a GRACEFUL Exit...She&#039;s goin down in flames.  The remaining superdelegates going to be bringin the matches and gasoline come this TUESDAY and WEDNESDAY morning.  I don&#039;t need to see her concede, she just needs to go away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was ancient-ass, presumptive-CBS-News-Anchor-b4-Katie-got-the-job John Roberts and he needs to stay da f*ck away from the map.  They need to turn the map off when John King isn&#8217;t in the building.</p>
<p>WhyTF are Ickes/Clintons arguing over FOUR delegates&#8230;the difference between 73 and 69 in Michigan&#8230;actually two when you count them in halves.  </p>
<p>We all need to face the reality that the CHICK ain&#8217;t going to have a GRACEFUL Exit&#8230;She&#8217;s goin down in flames.  The remaining superdelegates going to be bringin the matches and gasoline come this TUESDAY and WEDNESDAY morning.  I don&#8217;t need to see her concede, she just needs to go away.</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>please....go on line at Obama&#039;s website and donate what you can...this is the end of the quarter....he needs to show a strong showing...&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;get your friends and family to go on line and donate before midnight tonight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please&#8230;.go on line at Obama&#8217;s website and donate what you can&#8230;this is the end of the quarter&#8230;.he needs to show a strong showing&#8230;</p>
<p>get your friends and family to go on line and donate before midnight tonight.</p>
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		<title>By: andyfrombrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyfrombrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>truth is that the o-man is running even right now with mccsame. that is with tanya harding throwing shit around. tanya&#039;s press is going to shrivel up after tuesday. her impact will lessen with or with our her consent. the party is not going to split. it was a close election but she has lost and the party will pull itself together. she is only hurting herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>truth is that the o-man is running even right now with mccsame. that is with tanya harding throwing shit around. tanya&#8217;s press is going to shrivel up after tuesday. her impact will lessen with or with our her consent. the party is not going to split. it was a close election but she has lost and the party will pull itself together. she is only hurting herself.</p>
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		<title>By: andyfrombrooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>andyfrombrooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am disturbed to hear that john king&#039;s map has been violated. was it dana bash touching the map? i have it in my mind that they had been going to get married. although maybe his map thing was giving her second thoughts. anyhow what were they showing on the map? the location of this hotel? obama&#039;s church? cnn has such a bad case of foggy bottomitis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am disturbed to hear that john king&#8217;s map has been violated. was it dana bash touching the map? i have it in my mind that they had been going to get married. although maybe his map thing was giving her second thoughts. anyhow what were they showing on the map? the location of this hotel? obama&#8217;s church? cnn has such a bad case of foggy bottomitis.</p>
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		<title>By: Caged Lion</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caged Lion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://firedoglake.com/2008/05/31/clinton-supporter-ejected-from-meeting-mccain-will-be-our-next-president/</description>
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		<title>By: Honey01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Honey01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Non-delusional,&lt;br/&gt;I get to a certain extent your point. I assume your contention is that JJ posters should offer a more critical analysis of Obama. Cool. Your point may well be received better minus the crass language.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In regards to the fawning over &quot;Ebony snapshots&quot;. Could it be that so many are happy to see a Black, intact, family? The images we see in the media are of Black men (and people in general) are rarely positive. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Here in the Chi, my local news is dominated by images of R. Kelley, drug dealers, murders, and other non-sense. So you will have to forgive me if I get a little excited when I see a POSITIVE image of a BLACK family.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, I need to catch up some of these links ya&#039;ll posted (thanks). I was watching the coverage up until about they broke for lunch but I needed to get outside. It&#039;s finally summer in the Chi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Non-delusional,<br />I get to a certain extent your point. I assume your contention is that JJ posters should offer a more critical analysis of Obama. Cool. Your point may well be received better minus the crass language.</p>
<p>In regards to the fawning over &#8220;Ebony snapshots&#8221;. Could it be that so many are happy to see a Black, intact, family? The images we see in the media are of Black men (and people in general) are rarely positive. </p>
<p>Here in the Chi, my local news is dominated by images of R. Kelley, drug dealers, murders, and other non-sense. So you will have to forgive me if I get a little excited when I see a POSITIVE image of a BLACK family.</p>
<p>Now, I need to catch up some of these links ya&#8217;ll posted (thanks). I was watching the coverage up until about they broke for lunch but I needed to get outside. It&#8217;s finally summer in the Chi.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 00:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is stupid and entirely beside the point, but every time I see the photo of the crystal gavel that heads this section I can&#039;t stop laughing &#039;cause it looks like sumpin&#039; else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is stupid and entirely beside the point, but every time I see the photo of the crystal gavel that heads this section I can&#8217;t stop laughing &#8217;cause it looks like sumpin&#8217; else.</p>
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