Comments on: Easy Question: Are PA Voters Actually Offended? (updated with video) http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:23:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: rapid fat loss handbook pdfhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-838819 rapid fat loss handbook pdf Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:25:01 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-838819 <strong>Read was interesting, stay in touch…...</strong>[...]please visit the sites we follow, including this one, as it represents our picks from the web[...]…... Read was interesting, stay in touch……

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]]> By: vvhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9889 vv Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:10:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9889 <i>"You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I'm from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they're gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they've been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. <b>When their economic policies fail, when the country's coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them.</b> They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, 'What happened to everybody's job? What happened to everybody's income? What ... have ... you ... done ... to ... our ... country?'"</i><br/><br/>Bill Clinton to Joe Klein in the Los Angeles Times in 1991<br/><br/>http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html “You know, he [Bush] wants to divide us over race. I’m from the South. I understand this. This quota deal they’re gonna pull in the next election is the same old scam they’ve been pulling on us for decade after decade after decade. When their economic policies fail, when the country’s coming apart rather than coming together, what do they do? They find the most economically insecure white men and scare the living daylights out of them. They know if they can keep us looking at each other across a racial divide, if I can look at Bobby Rush and think, Bobby wants my job, my promotion, then neither of us can look at George Bush and say, ‘What happened to everybody’s job? What happened to everybody’s income? What … have … you … done … to … our … country?’”

Bill Clinton to Joe Klein in the Los Angeles Times in 1991

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/13/bill-clinton-flashback-al_n_96433.html

]]> By: Ronnie Bhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9876 Ronnie B Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:00:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9876 There have been, at least, two instances where Barack has been criticized by Hillary and then by the MSM; only to learn that whatever Barack has said that was oh-so-offensive, was also said similarly by Bill Clinton. I'm also noticing a pattern whereby the MSM waits until the end of the week--when the damage is done--to make the connection.<br/><br/>I keep saying it folks: if we want change in politics, we HAVE to change TV media. More Black and Brown people in TV management instead of personalities in front of the cameras. There have been, at least, two instances where Barack has been criticized by Hillary and then by the MSM; only to learn that whatever Barack has said that was oh-so-offensive, was also said similarly by Bill Clinton. I’m also noticing a pattern whereby the MSM waits until the end of the week–when the damage is done–to make the connection.

I keep saying it folks: if we want change in politics, we HAVE to change TV media. More Black and Brown people in TV management instead of personalities in front of the cameras.

]]> By: Ms.Martinhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9875 Ms.Martin Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:57:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9875 S said<br/><br/>Isn't that exactly what the uneducated folks in Philly are being told by Hillary?<br/><br/>Aren't the uneducated beer-drinking lunch pail pack supposed to be her voting block? S said

Isn’t that exactly what the uneducated folks in Philly are being told by Hillary?

Aren’t the uneducated beer-drinking lunch pail pack supposed to be her voting block?

]]> By: shttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9868 s Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:14:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9868 truthseeker,<br/><br/>"Less-informed" as determined by others, not oneself. <br/><br/>I contend that both political parties are equally guilty of predatory politics. Hence, my healthy skepticism. truthseeker,

“Less-informed” as determined by others, not oneself.

I contend that both political parties are equally guilty of predatory politics. Hence, my healthy skepticism.

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9865 TruthSeeker Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:48:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9865 @ s<br/><br/>The "less informed" part of your comment is key. The idea is, if they had been voting their best interest, wouldn't their lives reflect that. You are taking offense where none is intended. That knee-jerk emotional response is what political predators use to control your voting wisdom. @ s

The “less informed” part of your comment is key. The idea is, if they had been voting their best interest, wouldn’t their lives reflect that. You are taking offense where none is intended. That knee-jerk emotional response is what political predators use to control your voting wisdom.

]]> By: shttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9855 s Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:50:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9855 Obama is elitist, as it applies, in the academic, ideological sense.<br/><br/>The implication of Obama's comments that less educated, less informed, rural Americans need to be made to see that he and the Democrat party are the 'cure for what ails them' is what is truly condescending and offensive.<br/><br/>'We know what's best for you.'<br/><br/>If only we would put our trust in him, and his party, instead of God and freedom, all will be well!<br/><br/>His statements can be interpreted to further imply, if you reject or express skepticism in our<br/>message of the 'government as your salvation' then it must be because you are bigoted and xenophobic. Obama is elitist, as it applies, in the academic, ideological sense.

The implication of Obama’s comments that less educated, less informed, rural Americans need to be made to see that he and the Democrat party are the ‘cure for what ails them’ is what is truly condescending and offensive.

‘We know what’s best for you.’

If only we would put our trust in him, and his party, instead of God and freedom, all will be well!

His statements can be interpreted to further imply, if you reject or express skepticism in our
message of the ‘government as your salvation’ then it must be because you are bigoted and xenophobic.

]]> By: the only choicehttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9846 the only choice Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:31:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9846 To me, elitism doesn't have anything to do with money. In fact some of the most of the worst offenders are people without.<br/><br/>I don't think anyone would call Warren Buffet an elitist. To me, elitism doesn’t have anything to do with money. In fact some of the most of the worst offenders are people without.

I don’t think anyone would call Warren Buffet an elitist.

]]> By: shttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9838 s Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:20:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9838 This Hank Williams jr. video is titled "A Country Boy Can Survive"<br/><br/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg<br/><br/>It may help to make my point above.<br/><br/>I'd be interested to know what you think. This Hank Williams jr. video is titled “A Country Boy Can Survive”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg

It may help to make my point above.

I’d be interested to know what you think.

]]> By: shttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9836 s Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:12:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9836 Obama and the media are spinning to focus the attention on the 'bitter' portion of his comments. Undeniably, bitterness exists. But what is truly disturbing in his comments is idea that the government is the be-all and end-all of political-cultural behavior. Without the state there is no salvation, only resentment. This is nonsense.<br/><br/>People don't end up focusing on issues like the right to bear arms, gay marriage, faith-based and family-based issues, and the like, because of bitterness against Washington or a sense that they can't effect change there. People focus on these issues because modern American political culture is about subcultures, variety, pursuing parochial aims, and shaping one's identity and personal agendas independently of the state. <br/><br/>Exceptions to this, of course, are anti-immigration sentiment and bigoted protectionism, both of which Obama conveniently dropped in his Indiana comments. <br/><br/>His remarks are most condescending and offensive to those of us who do not view the state as the definitive solution to our lives. Obama and the media are spinning to focus the attention on the ‘bitter’ portion of his comments. Undeniably, bitterness exists. But what is truly disturbing in his comments is idea that the government is the be-all and end-all of political-cultural behavior. Without the state there is no salvation, only resentment. This is nonsense.

People don’t end up focusing on issues like the right to bear arms, gay marriage, faith-based and family-based issues, and the like, because of bitterness against Washington or a sense that they can’t effect change there. People focus on these issues because modern American political culture is about subcultures, variety, pursuing parochial aims, and shaping one’s identity and personal agendas independently of the state.

Exceptions to this, of course, are anti-immigration sentiment and bigoted protectionism, both of which Obama conveniently dropped in his Indiana comments.

His remarks are most condescending and offensive to those of us who do not view the state as the definitive solution to our lives.

]]> By: B-Serioushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9822 B-Serious Mon, 14 Apr 2008 03:15:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9822 @ texasgirl,<br/><br/>Hey, "Annie Get Your Gun!" ;)<br/><br/>LOL! @ texasgirl,

Hey, “Annie Get Your Gun!” ;)

LOL!

]]> By: Texas Girl in L.A.http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9815 Texas Girl in L.A. Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:58:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9815 b-serious,<br/><br/>I liked it when is said he expected it from McCain, but he was disappointed to hear the same talking points coming from another democrat. <br/><br/>Then he talks about Annie Oakley and even he couldn't stop laughing...pure comedy! b-serious,

I liked it when is said he expected it from McCain, but he was disappointed to hear the same talking points coming from another democrat.

Then he talks about Annie Oakley and even he couldn’t stop laughing…pure comedy!

]]> By: B-Serioushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9811 B-Serious Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:34:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9811 @texas girl,<br/><br/>I saw his response. I loved it!<br/><br/>He wasn't angry, but he made light of the situation to reveal just how stupid it really is.<br/><br/>Annie Oakley! LOL! In a world of soundbites, that's gonna stick.<br/><br/>Good job Obama! @texas girl,

I saw his response. I loved it!

He wasn’t angry, but he made light of the situation to reveal just how stupid it really is.

Annie Oakley! LOL! In a world of soundbites, that’s gonna stick.

Good job Obama!

]]> By: Texas Girl in L.A.http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9808 Texas Girl in L.A. Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:26:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9808 Go here is if you have problems....<br/><br/>http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/13/211132/586/146/495127 Go here is if you have problems….

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/13/211132/586/146/495127

]]> By: Texas Girl in L.A.http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9807 Texas Girl in L.A. Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:22:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9807 Obama: Annie Oakley<br/>(Hillary)<br/><br/>Addressing the United Steelworkers in Steelton, PA<br/><br/>http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo<br/><br/>Dang! Obama: Annie Oakley
(Hillary)

Addressing the United Steelworkers in Steelton, PA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo

Dang!

]]> By: rikyrahhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9804 rikyrah Mon, 14 Apr 2008 02:14:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9804 Jack,<br/><br/>Fox also interviewed a Brotha, asking him about Obama's comments. I thought his was a good response too. Jack,

Fox also interviewed a Brotha, asking him about Obama’s comments. I thought his was a good response too.

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9799 TruthSeeker Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:59:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9799 YouTube video where Barack gets a little angry at the elitist accusation....<br/><br/><a HREF="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=NIxmi3e2Vmo" REL="nofollow">link</a> YouTube video where Barack gets a little angry at the elitist accusation….

link

]]> By: TruthSeekerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9798 TruthSeeker Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:53:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9798 Obama was amazing! He really did a great job. I keep thinking this man is so reasonable, It's a feeling in your bones that he is being forthright. Her nasty opening comments made her look really bad in contrast to Obama's reasonable, thoughtful responses.<br/><br/>Of all the wonderful things said, CNN is now focusing on the "bitter" comment. Campbell says she doesn't think he's adequately explained it for some people..I wish someone would ask her to name those people!<br/><br/>Go Obama! Obama was amazing! He really did a great job. I keep thinking this man is so reasonable, It’s a feeling in your bones that he is being forthright. Her nasty opening comments made her look really bad in contrast to Obama’s reasonable, thoughtful responses.

Of all the wonderful things said, CNN is now focusing on the “bitter” comment. Campbell says she doesn’t think he’s adequately explained it for some people..I wish someone would ask her to name those people!

Go Obama!

]]> By: B-Serioushttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9796 B-Serious Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:45:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9796 @texas girl,<br/><br/>Add to that the fact that Obama gets a very warm reception and much applause at tonight's compassion forum on CNN. This included a standing ovation at the end of Obama's segment. <br/><br/>Another important part from tonight's forum . . . Obama got loud applause when he said that Jeremiah Wright was unfairly portrayed by the media. And all of this in PA where they're supposed to be waiting for Obama with fired torches and pitch forks.<br/><br/>Will this get ANY coverage in the media????<br/><br/>Sadly, I'll be shocked if it does. @texas girl,

Add to that the fact that Obama gets a very warm reception and much applause at tonight’s compassion forum on CNN. This included a standing ovation at the end of Obama’s segment.

Another important part from tonight’s forum . . . Obama got loud applause when he said that Jeremiah Wright was unfairly portrayed by the media. And all of this in PA where they’re supposed to be waiting for Obama with fired torches and pitch forks.

Will this get ANY coverage in the media????

Sadly, I’ll be shocked if it does.

]]> By: Texas Girl in L.A.http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/easy-question-are-pa-voters-actually-offended-updated-with-video/comment-page-1/#comment-9795 Texas Girl in L.A. Mon, 14 Apr 2008 01:22:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1087#comment-9795 -Another SD endorsement today. Nancy Larson of MN<br/><br/>-21 elected officials and community leaders write an open letter to set aside the recent attempts at political-scoring<br/><br/>-the open letter has received over a thousand responses of Pennsylvanian's who are angry and "bitter" and thanked Obama for his courage. (the letter and some of the responses ar at his website)<br/><br/>-Pennsylvania Times-Tribune and the Pennsylvania Morning call endorses Obama -Another SD endorsement today. Nancy Larson of MN

-21 elected officials and community leaders write an open letter to set aside the recent attempts at political-scoring

-the open letter has received over a thousand responses of Pennsylvanian’s who are angry and “bitter” and thanked Obama for his courage. (the letter and some of the responses ar at his website)

-Pennsylvania Times-Tribune and the Pennsylvania Morning call endorses Obama

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