Jack & Jill Politics

brushing dirt off one's shoulder is older than Jesus turning the other cheek. it's old. if young people associate it most with Jay Z, though, I'm happy for them. There are older folks out there who associate it, apparently, with Sinatra.


I just thought it was universal. I like the song though, definitely a head bobber.



I wish Tupac were still with us.

the video was funny, let's face it every thing the man does is scrutinized he's even on target for things other people say


there are also crazy video's of her out there, so let's talk real talk, he wouldn't have thousands of people voting for him if he was a shallow as a bunch of musical lyrics....people are smarter then that, and the ones who aren't



never planned to vote for him in the first place

I didn't watch the debate but have been reading transcripts and it felt like
the cast of High School Musical 2 was moderating the debate.



I agree with commenter Chris Chambers...US media is over.

Whoops. That last link was supposed to be: http://i28.tinypic.com/1zx0hgm.gif

Some relevant avatar-sized .gifs made from this particular NC speech ;)


A NeoGAF forum poster made these, but I forgot what his user name/handle is:

http://i27.tinypic.com/21l3n88.gif

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/member.php?u=30961

I sent this to Morning Joe today after Cohen made his remarks about Obama. They didn't realize that Obama was picking up on pop culture. They were calling brushing off his shoulders elitist. I wanted to know if they thought Jay-Z was an elitist. Mainstream white audiences really didn't get it.

Hillary's got a different face for each day of the week. She was talking to a group of women yesterday about girlie things....after doing shots and beer the week before.


I don't know why her supporters are complicit in their own deception.

jack, here's a mix:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yel8IjOAdSc

Just a wordon the debate to calm you all down once and for all. It was NOT a politically motivated hack job. It was just another confirmation, from ABC to Fox to Anderson Cooper to Al Jazeera that TV news has imploded and is about nothing but bullshit. It is soap opera, it is Dancing with the Stars. Don'tread too much into the politics, into possible racism. This is about a medium's once cherished maxims, crumbling. It is as much in some respects about economics mixing with a gutter culture. You see it in music, books, film, sports, too. It's not Malcolm or Martin who are hissing and growling from the grave, then--it's Edward R Murrow, spinning in his casket. It's Howard K Smith, and Max Robinson and Ed Bradley. It's Walter Cronkite, wishing he was dead...

Other than the use of that vile n-word, it could have been intersting, but, maybe I'm too old to get past the first one or see the relevance to using that vile word for anything.


Go Obama, but, not with this sort of lyric atached to his name, the GOP is using it enough behind closed doors and will only give them more ammo to use about why a black man should not hold the job.

Whew, just clicked that link to Politico. First time there and I'll NEVER go back. The comments were like the debate...disgusting, revealing tons of conscious racism, unconscuous bias and blatant self-hate fueled by a lack of individual power.


Anyhoo, Kos had that video up pretty early today and a young Kossack caught it...and immediately I went into protect B.O. mode, thinking oh sh**, as insanely dope as I thought it was I just wanted to keep it confined to those who understand urban culture (good, bad, context, history and all). I wanted to grab the dude that found it and say Nooooo, just keep it as a little present to yourself. Maybe I'm paranoid, but we all saw what went down on the Mickey Mouse club last night and I for one saw the extreme disconnect between white and black progressives during the Mike Vick saga (please don't start that debate with me...we just wanted compassion and balance, I too love dogs okay). I went to see Jay and Mary last Tuesday in Atlanta and the absolute best part of the show was when he he did the song from 'American Gangster' (I forget which one) and it got to the part where he says 'Fu** Bush', a huge picture of shrub was flashed on the digital backdrop that spanned one side of Phillips Arena and the crowd ate it up...then, the best part...he flashed a pic of Barack and the place went wild. Sean Carter, understanding the nuance of this Amerikan game made sure he said that the Senator's campaign had nothing to do with his endorsement. Best part of the show! But seriously plenty white liberals and black folks have misplaced hate for hip-hop and Obama already has to walk a fine line. Ahhh, I just remember he met with Ludacris a while back to talk about issues important to the younger generation...hope that doesn't creep back up.



I love his swagger and LOVED the reference, I'm just a little uneasy about how easily this can be a manufactured controversy.

They already have on politico.com:
Jay-Z

Rikyrah


There's an interesting story here about Obama Superdelegates finding that there sisterhood is questioned:



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080417/ap_on_el_pr/women_superdelegates

Val


While I loved the gesture and needed it after that debate last nigt, I was thinking the same thing - it would be just more ammunition for MSM; though the mere gesture itself might send them in search of its meaning and origin.

I am almost to the point where I look forward to these bumps in the campaign road, because of the total joy of watching Obama respond.

I would hesitate on mixing this video with Barack in it. Based on last night's ignorant questions to Barack and the weeks of guilty by association tactics and Barack having to explain away the verbage of all folks of color -- if we mix this video with Jay-Z using the terms pimp and ni**er it is yet another opportunity for these folks to spin this another way. To say -- see this is what you get when you elect a black man as a CIC.


I know it sounds crazy but ya never know. We don't want to open him up for anything. Just a thought. Unless you use the music and eliminate everything except the beat and the phrase brush your shoulders off.

Signify, Barack, signify.

Nice...

a-ight !!!!!