Comments on: Bill Clinton’s Ties to China—-show us the $$$$$$ http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/ A black bourgeoisie perspective on U.S. politics Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:27:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: NFL pickshttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-776359 NFL picks Sat, 27 Aug 2011 06:08:40 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-776359 <strong>How to handicapp NFL...</strong>...unlike NFL picks. Handicapping and making predictions can be quite fun, but try to check expert...... How to handicapp NFL…

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]]> By: Nitahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9780 Nita Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:36:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9780 @heartsandflowers, i think at this point if they're watching you you did something right. @heartsandflowers, i think at this point if they’re watching you you did something right.

]]> By: Nitahttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9779 Nita Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:35:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9779 The sad part is that Republicans have been hammering about this for years. I think Republican have a point right now: where were Democrats' concerns, since Democrats' knew about these things, before this year? The sad part is that Republicans have been hammering about this for years. I think Republican have a point right now: where were Democrats’ concerns, since Democrats’ knew about these things, before this year?

]]> By: Jack Turnerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9775 Jack Turner Sun, 13 Apr 2008 22:11:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9775 @heartsandflowers. excellent point about not letting the agenda be set by the MSM<br/><br/>It's harder to do than say. Much as I rant against the media, I know I'm complicit in continuing to empower them<br/><br/>I'm glad you recognize it and can see beyond it. There are many other topics I plan to explore beyond how wack Hillary et al are.<br/><br/>However, what I HOPE we accomplish here when we react to the MSM is to react with intelligence and opinion and maybe event facts that are missing from their narrative.<br/><br/>One of the parts of this job I love (and yes, it's a J-O-B) is being able to offer that antidote to the hype and the noise that runs our national political conversation. I know we don't always achieve it, but that's the goal.<br/><br/>thanks again @heartsandflowers. excellent point about not letting the agenda be set by the MSM

It’s harder to do than say. Much as I rant against the media, I know I’m complicit in continuing to empower them

I’m glad you recognize it and can see beyond it. There are many other topics I plan to explore beyond how wack Hillary et al are.

However, what I HOPE we accomplish here when we react to the MSM is to react with intelligence and opinion and maybe event facts that are missing from their narrative.

One of the parts of this job I love (and yes, it’s a J-O-B) is being able to offer that antidote to the hype and the noise that runs our national political conversation. I know we don’t always achieve it, but that’s the goal.

thanks again

]]> By: heartsandflowershttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9769 heartsandflowers Sun, 13 Apr 2008 21:49:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9769 I think it's up to the bloggers to stop letting our topics be only set in response to what traditional covers. I know I posted several comments and asked why are people letting themselves be so easily manipulated and distracted by non-issues. We need to be vetting John McCain who is getting a complete pass and allowed to frame himself the way he pleases. Why aren't there news stories questioning his 'straight-talk and family values' when he mistreated his first wife, cheated and married his mistress who's very wealthy? How he apologized for not signing off on the King holiday but opposed it for 25 YEARS as well as important Civil Rights legislation. How he claimed to be against torture but supported Bush policies every single time it came up for a vote. His involvement in the S&L scandals and how he's supported similar bail-outs, lack of oversight and criminal prosecution with the banks yet again over the mortgage crisis. I'm not even going to talk about the Bill & Hill show. Whatever she says she supports [jobs for displaced workers, etc] you can bet if you follow the money trial Bill was brokering a deal with those who undermine and are in direct opposition of stated position. I'm glad to see a post on the Chinese connection. I'd also like to see something about Darfur. Rwanda, Congo and how Hillary with all of her experience did little to help the people raped and murdered then and has not done anything of any substance since she's been in office while Obama got specific legislation passed to assist. It's time to turn our attention on the hypocrisy and the ties the Clintons, Bushes and McCains have with each other. Now my other question is can we do this without some shadowy gov't spying or will we be put on someone's watch list because of it. My dad was a Black Panther and I know they had a file on him. I think it’s up to the bloggers to stop letting our topics be only set in response to what traditional covers. I know I posted several comments and asked why are people letting themselves be so easily manipulated and distracted by non-issues. We need to be vetting John McCain who is getting a complete pass and allowed to frame himself the way he pleases. Why aren’t there news stories questioning his ‘straight-talk and family values’ when he mistreated his first wife, cheated and married his mistress who’s very wealthy? How he apologized for not signing off on the King holiday but opposed it for 25 YEARS as well as important Civil Rights legislation. How he claimed to be against torture but supported Bush policies every single time it came up for a vote. His involvement in the S&L scandals and how he’s supported similar bail-outs, lack of oversight and criminal prosecution with the banks yet again over the mortgage crisis. I’m not even going to talk about the Bill & Hill show. Whatever she says she supports [jobs for displaced workers, etc] you can bet if you follow the money trial Bill was brokering a deal with those who undermine and are in direct opposition of stated position. I’m glad to see a post on the Chinese connection. I’d also like to see something about Darfur. Rwanda, Congo and how Hillary with all of her experience did little to help the people raped and murdered then and has not done anything of any substance since she’s been in office while Obama got specific legislation passed to assist. It’s time to turn our attention on the hypocrisy and the ties the Clintons, Bushes and McCains have with each other. Now my other question is can we do this without some shadowy gov’t spying or will we be put on someone’s watch list because of it. My dad was a Black Panther and I know they had a file on him.

]]> By: Caged Lionhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9750 Caged Lion Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:25:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9750 While I think it is of utmost importance to know where the Clintons are getting their funds from, vilifying this internet company and the Chinese government over a very complex issue is not doing the reader any service. I think the China angle on this story fits into a narrative about the East that is distorted, even if this story is based upon nuggets of truth. While I think it is of utmost importance to know where the Clintons are getting their funds from, vilifying this internet company and the Chinese government over a very complex issue is not doing the reader any service. I think the China angle on this story fits into a narrative about the East that is distorted, even if this story is based upon nuggets of truth.

]]> By: Jack Turnerhttp://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/04/bill-clintons-ties-to-china-show-us-the/comment-page-1/#comment-9722 Jack Turner Sun, 13 Apr 2008 17:15:00 +0000 http://s45368.gridserver.com/?p=1086#comment-9722 and to continue, this exposes the lie that she's been "vetted." She has not, as the Bosnia, Colombia, Wal-Mart and other stories continue to come out.<br/><br/>WHY IS NO ONE PRESSING HER ON JUST WHAT BILL CLINTON WOULD BE DOING?<br/><br/>It's like everyone is skating around this elephant in the room. <br/><br/>This is a legitimate concern that gets into issues of executive authority and transparency. You can't just laugh it off.<br/><br/>She needs to be forced to answer for this. The last time those two collaborated in the White House, it led to serious problems. and to continue, this exposes the lie that she’s been “vetted.” She has not, as the Bosnia, Colombia, Wal-Mart and other stories continue to come out.

WHY IS NO ONE PRESSING HER ON JUST WHAT BILL CLINTON WOULD BE DOING?

It’s like everyone is skating around this elephant in the room.

This is a legitimate concern that gets into issues of executive authority and transparency. You can’t just laugh it off.

She needs to be forced to answer for this. The last time those two collaborated in the White House, it led to serious problems.

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