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		<title>By: Acanthus</title>
		<link>http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/03/trying-to-attack-obama-through-his-church/comment-page-2/#comment-7233</link>
		<dc:creator>Acanthus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The CNNs and MS-NBCs of the world, per usual, are low-keying this as much as possible&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Low-keying it? You&#039;re kidding, right? And, what did he say that was bigoted?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The CNNs and MS-NBCs of the world, per usual, are low-keying this as much as possible&#8221;.</p>
<p>Low-keying it? You&#8217;re kidding, right? And, what did he say that was bigoted?</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 8:12&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Who&#039;s the real bigot?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Searpant&#039;s rarely look you in the eye (or in this case state their names) before biting you.</description>
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<p>Who&#8217;s the real bigot?</p>
<p>Searpant&#8217;s rarely look you in the eye (or in this case state their names) before biting you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is getting absolutely SLAMMED all over the blogosphere - deservedly so - for his 2 DECADE-long, close, personal relationship with this Wright bigot.  The CNNs and MS-NBCs of the world, per usual, are low-keying this as much as possible.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Peace out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is getting absolutely SLAMMED all over the blogosphere &#8211; deservedly so &#8211; for his 2 DECADE-long, close, personal relationship with this Wright bigot.  The CNNs and MS-NBCs of the world, per usual, are low-keying this as much as possible.</p>
<p>Peace out</p>
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		<title>By: justice58</title>
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		<dc:creator>justice58</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anon 10:39,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Yup a Tornado did hit. Hmmm--I&#039;m just saying!</description>
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<p>Yup a Tornado did hit. Hmmm&#8211;I&#8217;m just saying!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is is just me or is there something unseemly about the white media putting Obama on the defensive about his minister?  At first he was a Muslim, when they couldn&#039;t make that stick they go and start picking on his minister. Anderson Cooper was treating Obama like he his child.  Poor Obama, he&#039;s darned if he does and darned if he doesn&#039;t.  The media needs to come and hear my Pastor talk about the illegal, immoral war.  I believe some of this is payback for Ferraro.   &lt;br/&gt;   Didn&#039;t a Tornado hit the CNN Center tonight in Atlanta?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is is just me or is there something unseemly about the white media putting Obama on the defensive about his minister?  At first he was a Muslim, when they couldn&#8217;t make that stick they go and start picking on his minister. Anderson Cooper was treating Obama like he his child.  Poor Obama, he&#8217;s darned if he does and darned if he doesn&#8217;t.  The media needs to come and hear my Pastor talk about the illegal, immoral war.  I believe some of this is payback for Ferraro.   <br />   Didn&#8217;t a Tornado hit the CNN Center tonight in Atlanta?</p>
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		<title>By: jelana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jelana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel like I&#039;m in the MATRIX and I have jumped down the rabbit hole!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America has already seen HIM (Obama).&lt;br/&gt;If they don&#039;t get it by now, they simply don&#039;t want to get it.  They&lt;br/&gt;will more than likely feel that the church service is being STAGED for&lt;br/&gt;America&#039;s benefit.  I guess the America that I see is not as progressive or intelligent as the America Obama sees.  I TRULY hope that I am wrong.  I keep telling&lt;br/&gt;myself that it is NOT OVER Yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America has already seen HIM (Obama).<br />If they don&#8217;t get it by now, they simply don&#8217;t want to get it.  They<br />will more than likely feel that the church service is being STAGED for<br />America&#8217;s benefit.  I guess the America that I see is not as progressive or intelligent as the America Obama sees.  I TRULY hope that I am wrong.  I keep telling<br />myself that it is NOT OVER Yet!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>b-serious said:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;I&#039;m telling you. The way to take the sting out of all of this is to open the doors of the church.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As long as the media gets to portray the church as some amorphous mob of black militants, Obama will continue to get dogged by the questions.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You open the doors of the church. And you do the very thing that best undercuts those fears of the unknown: You give it a face. You give it a name. You give it a culture; life and context. You take away the mystery. Why? Because ignorance feeds off of that mystery.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;&lt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is still the truest answer yet given in this thread, and it is the one that will be the most effective.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Wright and his contemporaries sometimes spoke and speak from a place of pain because that pain is real, and it has been and still is caused by structural impediments to justice. And America -the majority of it- is ready to see reality.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Obama&#039;s statement that he strongly condemns Wright&#039;s comments - but will not repudiate the man himself and the totality of his life&#039;s work - is the honorable path. It is also the path that, as is usual with Obama, takes the risk of actually trusting the American people instead of trying to corral them into believing some particular thing. Let the people see the church, and see the truth. America is ready, to quote the frontrunner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>b-serious said:</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m telling you. The way to take the sting out of all of this is to open the doors of the church.</p>
<p>As long as the media gets to portray the church as some amorphous mob of black militants, Obama will continue to get dogged by the questions.</p>
<p>You open the doors of the church. And you do the very thing that best undercuts those fears of the unknown: You give it a face. You give it a name. You give it a culture; life and context. You take away the mystery. Why? Because ignorance feeds off of that mystery.&#8221;<br />< <<br/></p>
<p>This is still the truest answer yet given in this thread, and it is the one that will be the most effective.</p>
<p>Wright and his contemporaries sometimes spoke and speak from a place of pain because that pain is real, and it has been and still is caused by structural impediments to justice. And America -the majority of it- is ready to see reality.</p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s statement that he strongly condemns Wright&#8217;s comments &#8211; but will not repudiate the man himself and the totality of his life&#8217;s work &#8211; is the honorable path. It is also the path that, as is usual with Obama, takes the risk of actually trusting the American people instead of trying to corral them into believing some particular thing. Let the people see the church, and see the truth. America is ready, to quote the frontrunner.</p>
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		<title>By: Ms.Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ms.Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The following is an excerpt from a story I found on Yahoo rearding Obama renounces the statements of Wright:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Also Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his &quot;flagship&quot; congregation. John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ&#039;s president, lauded Wright&#039;s church for its community service and work to nurture youth. Other church leaders praised Wright for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;It&#039;s time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends,&quot; Thomas said in the statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The following is an excerpt from a story I found on Yahoo rearding Obama renounces the statements of Wright:</p>
<p>Also Friday, the United Church of Christ issued a 1,400-word statement defending Wright and his &#8220;flagship&#8221; congregation. John H. Thomas, United Church of Christ&#8217;s president, lauded Wright&#8217;s church for its community service and work to nurture youth. Other church leaders praised Wright for speaking out against homophobia and sexism in the black community.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s time for all of us to say no to these attacks and to declare that we will not allow anyone to undermine or destroy the ministries of any of our congregations in order to serve their own narrow political or ideological ends,&#8221; Thomas said in the statement.</p>
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		<title>By: jelana</title>
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		<dc:creator>jelana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line is this was put out&lt;br/&gt;there to give people an excuse for not votimg for Obama.  This makes them feel comfortable not voting for a Black man.  This makes them believe &quot;they&quot; are not racist.  No matter what Obama says or does on this matter will make a differnce.  People&lt;br/&gt;either understand him or they don&#039;t!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line is this was put out<br />there to give people an excuse for not votimg for Obama.  This makes them feel comfortable not voting for a Black man.  This makes them believe &#8220;they&#8221; are not racist.  No matter what Obama says or does on this matter will make a differnce.  People<br />either understand him or they don&#8217;t!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;McCain is in the center&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;McCain is in the center only if you buy into the right-wing reframing of the political scale. Those of us with a long enough memory to know better know he&#039;s a rightist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;McCain is in the center&#8221;</p>
<p>McCain is in the center only if you buy into the right-wing reframing of the political scale. Those of us with a long enough memory to know better know he&#8217;s a rightist.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Rev. Wright is right, but Rev’s got to go&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Isn&#039;t he already gone (retired)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Rev. Wright is right, but Rev’s got to go&#8221;.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t he already gone (retired)?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hagee hasn&#039;t suggested-at least not in anything I&#039;ve seen-that God has not blessed, but damned America&quot;. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When he said that Katrina was a punishment from God for homosexuality, he certainly did suggest that God damned at least part of America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hagee hasn&#8217;t suggested-at least not in anything I&#8217;ve seen-that God has not blessed, but damned America&#8221;. </p>
<p>When he said that Katrina was a punishment from God for homosexuality, he certainly did suggest that God damned at least part of America.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Hillary Clinton had gone to a church where there was a Pastor who spoke this way, most of the Obama supporters would be railing her.  But now that the tables are turned, people want to separate Obama from his Church.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was an Obama supporter and still am, but I just think Americans need to stop being so two-faced.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Hillary Clinton had gone to a church where there was a Pastor who spoke this way, most of the Obama supporters would be railing her.  But now that the tables are turned, people want to separate Obama from his Church.  </p>
<p>I was an Obama supporter and still am, but I just think Americans need to stop being so two-faced.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;He&#039;s not on their campaign! Why is that so hard for people to understand&quot;.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Because it serves their purposes not to understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;He&#8217;s not on their campaign! Why is that so hard for people to understand&#8221;.</p>
<p>Because it serves their purposes not to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Nita</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Anonymous, &lt;i&gt;Besides, how many times have we&#039;ve heard Bill Maher or other whites say the same thing about 9/11 as Wright? And what is wrong with saying that Hillary has never been called a &quot;nigger&quot;, or is accepted because of her white, priviledged background? IT&#039;S TRUE!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Now, it&#039;s time for Democrats to stand up to these Republicans&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have to stop you there, because it&#039;s not Republicans who are solitarily behind all this mess.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It&#039;s the Clintons as well.  I wonder if there is a tag team going down right now. I can&#039;t say I know, more like I have a feeling.....&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When one&#039;s house is not in order, it won&#039;t get in order by blaming one&#039;s equally slobbish neighbor. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But you&#039;re right about Maher and the rest.  Thank you. It goes back to what I said earlier, and have always said, about the power of black speech versus the power of white speech.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Unfortunately, now people who have never heard what Wright really said, and ain&#039;t gonna give a fuck to hear what he really said, are going to parrot the line that Wright is a racist who hates Jews and that makes Obama a racist anti-Semite, too,..... just like they parrot the bullshit about how Obama was losing when he was actually winning.  Or parrot the bullshit about his &#039;present&#039; votes for Planned Parenthood with Planned Parenthood&#039;s permission and endorsement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Anonymous, <i>Besides, how many times have we&#8217;ve heard Bill Maher or other whites say the same thing about 9/11 as Wright? And what is wrong with saying that Hillary has never been called a &#8220;nigger&#8221;, or is accepted because of her white, priviledged background? IT&#8217;S TRUE!</p>
<p>Now, it&#8217;s time for Democrats to stand up to these Republicans</i></p>
<p>I have to stop you there, because it&#8217;s not Republicans who are solitarily behind all this mess.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the Clintons as well.  I wonder if there is a tag team going down right now. I can&#8217;t say I know, more like I have a feeling&#8230;..</p>
<p>When one&#8217;s house is not in order, it won&#8217;t get in order by blaming one&#8217;s equally slobbish neighbor. </p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right about Maher and the rest.  Thank you. It goes back to what I said earlier, and have always said, about the power of black speech versus the power of white speech.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, now people who have never heard what Wright really said, and ain&#8217;t gonna give a fuck to hear what he really said, are going to parrot the line that Wright is a racist who hates Jews and that makes Obama a racist anti-Semite, too,&#8230;.. just like they parrot the bullshit about how Obama was losing when he was actually winning.  Or parrot the bullshit about his &#8216;present&#8217; votes for Planned Parenthood with Planned Parenthood&#8217;s permission and endorsement.</p>
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		<title>By: BigAssBelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>BigAssBelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;People need to not buy into what the media is telling you and go read...find out for yourself. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;That is patently true. However, if the general public were willing to do that, we wouldn&#039;t have been lied into a disastrous war in Iraq, Bush wouldn&#039;t be able to pass of telecom/Bush crony immunity as being in the interest of security and on and on and on. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Soundbytes make or break a campaign. It happened to Kerry. It happened to Gore. By the time both of those men were at the point of the vote, they&#039;d been trivialized and demonized in the media to the point that folks STILL believe Gore said he singlehandedly invented the internet and folks STILL believe Kerry&#039;s medals were bogus and based on lies.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;This is one horrendous soundbyte because it is 180 degrees from Obama&#039;s beliefs. I&#039;m going to say it&#039;s 180 degrees &lt;i&gt;from his beliefs&lt;/i&gt; but I am deathly afraid that an enormous number of folks are going to assume that it&#039;s 180 from his &lt;i&gt;professed beliefs&lt;/i&gt; and that is a distinct and devastating difference.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;And here I&#039;ll tell you something else, from the white point of view, from the point of view of someone who has fought long and hard for equality for all people for more than 30 years:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;When I hear that coming from Wright&#039;s mouth I &lt;i&gt;hear&lt;/i&gt; it and I &lt;i&gt;understand&lt;/i&gt; it and then there&#039;s a big piece of me that rises up and says it is hopeless, I, we, my people, cannot ever win, we cannot ever undo**, we cannot make it better, there is no hope.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Fast on the heels of no hope comes &lt;i&gt;fuck it&lt;/i&gt;, why try.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;**my people not here until 1893. just for the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;People need to not buy into what the media is telling you and go read&#8230;find out for yourself. </i></p>
<p>That is patently true. However, if the general public were willing to do that, we wouldn&#8217;t have been lied into a disastrous war in Iraq, Bush wouldn&#8217;t be able to pass of telecom/Bush crony immunity as being in the interest of security and on and on and on. </p>
<p>Soundbytes make or break a campaign. It happened to Kerry. It happened to Gore. By the time both of those men were at the point of the vote, they&#8217;d been trivialized and demonized in the media to the point that folks STILL believe Gore said he singlehandedly invented the internet and folks STILL believe Kerry&#8217;s medals were bogus and based on lies.</p>
<p>This is one horrendous soundbyte because it is 180 degrees from Obama&#8217;s beliefs. I&#8217;m going to say it&#8217;s 180 degrees <i>from his beliefs</i> but I am deathly afraid that an enormous number of folks are going to assume that it&#8217;s 180 from his <i>professed beliefs</i> and that is a distinct and devastating difference.</p>
<p>And here I&#8217;ll tell you something else, from the white point of view, from the point of view of someone who has fought long and hard for equality for all people for more than 30 years:</p>
<p>When I hear that coming from Wright&#8217;s mouth I <i>hear</i> it and I <i>understand</i> it and then there&#8217;s a big piece of me that rises up and says it is hopeless, I, we, my people, cannot ever win, we cannot ever undo**, we cannot make it better, there is no hope.</p>
<p>Fast on the heels of no hope comes <i>fuck it</i>, why try.</p>
<p>**my people not here until 1893. just for the record.</p>
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		<dc:creator>NMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brownsuga,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You nailed it!  I&#039;ve seen a number of the &#039;Obama is a sellout&#039; crew on MSNBC and Fox calling for Senator Obama to explain and denounce Reb. Wright, including Professor Lamont Hill who has previously called the Senator everything short of an Uncle Tom. Fake ass negroes!</description>
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<p>You nailed it!  I&#8217;ve seen a number of the &#8216;Obama is a sellout&#8217; crew on MSNBC and Fox calling for Senator Obama to explain and denounce Reb. Wright, including Professor Lamont Hill who has previously called the Senator everything short of an Uncle Tom. Fake ass negroes!</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some of you anonymous people, identify yourselves. If Obama throws right under the bus and then backs up and runs over him again, then he will be doing that to some of his support. People need to not buy into what the media is telling you and go read...find out for yourself. There are many who have said that it wont be that big of an issue, some say it will be something he has to deal with quickly but all I know is that my phone is blowing up with people of all races, ages, genders and classes who want to come and campaign in Philly this weekend. I will go ahead and bring it up at our meeting this evening with Women for Obama and see what I hear. Hopefully I can eradicated any falsehoods like white people can&#039;t go to TUCC. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;What will make some of you happy? What do you suggest his method to be for throwing this respected black minister under the bus. On Obama&#039;s website there are facts on the church. They are there for you to read...go read. If you ever supported the guy then you would have known that.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;B.Serious, made a wonderful suggestion and I think that that is the best way to handle it. Obama believes in transparency...there you go. I believe that if people were able to see those who go there, they would not see it as a &quot;threat&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some of you anonymous people, identify yourselves. If Obama throws right under the bus and then backs up and runs over him again, then he will be doing that to some of his support. People need to not buy into what the media is telling you and go read&#8230;find out for yourself. There are many who have said that it wont be that big of an issue, some say it will be something he has to deal with quickly but all I know is that my phone is blowing up with people of all races, ages, genders and classes who want to come and campaign in Philly this weekend. I will go ahead and bring it up at our meeting this evening with Women for Obama and see what I hear. Hopefully I can eradicated any falsehoods like white people can&#8217;t go to TUCC. </p>
<p>What will make some of you happy? What do you suggest his method to be for throwing this respected black minister under the bus. On Obama&#8217;s website there are facts on the church. They are there for you to read&#8230;go read. If you ever supported the guy then you would have known that.  </p>
<p>B.Serious, made a wonderful suggestion and I think that that is the best way to handle it. Obama believes in transparency&#8230;there you go. I believe that if people were able to see those who go there, they would not see it as a &#8220;threat&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: BrownSugaQT86</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anon 1:06, Betrayal? Did you read what Rikyrah wrote about his church. Celebrating your culture, cultivating a sense of community anf pride in one&#039;s self, family values and empowerment is not betrayal. You were obviously looking for a savior for the race problem in this country. Obama knows about the realities of this country however he believes that if we unite and understand one another,we can begin to make progress. An Ivy league degree is a sign of personal progress not racial equality. Lets talk about the institutions in this country are still oppressive. Dropping the truth about the realities in this country is not unity, its a false utopia that will come crashing down when more nooses are hung on trees in schooly yards and black men are shot 41 and 54 times by the police not to mention the other inequalities that happen on a regular basis in all facets of life. Some people have to be joking. Go support another candidate if you are smart enough to fall for media hype and feel betrayed because someone is empowering themself, their family and their community. Rev. Wright is speaking the truth about this country. The only way you can make a CHANGE is if you know the truth. If you dont like truth then support Hillary Rodham Clinton, she will be just right for you. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;P.S. I get offended when people start up with Rev. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, they have done a lot for the black community. I know that many like to live in a bubble but they are speaking the truth and reminding our nation that their is inequalities in pur country and that we must address them in order to live up to our own American doctrine...ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon 1:06, Betrayal? Did you read what Rikyrah wrote about his church. Celebrating your culture, cultivating a sense of community anf pride in one&#8217;s self, family values and empowerment is not betrayal. You were obviously looking for a savior for the race problem in this country. Obama knows about the realities of this country however he believes that if we unite and understand one another,we can begin to make progress. An Ivy league degree is a sign of personal progress not racial equality. Lets talk about the institutions in this country are still oppressive. Dropping the truth about the realities in this country is not unity, its a false utopia that will come crashing down when more nooses are hung on trees in schooly yards and black men are shot 41 and 54 times by the police not to mention the other inequalities that happen on a regular basis in all facets of life. Some people have to be joking. Go support another candidate if you are smart enough to fall for media hype and feel betrayed because someone is empowering themself, their family and their community. Rev. Wright is speaking the truth about this country. The only way you can make a CHANGE is if you know the truth. If you dont like truth then support Hillary Rodham Clinton, she will be just right for you. </p>
<p>P.S. I get offended when people start up with Rev. Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, they have done a lot for the black community. I know that many like to live in a bubble but they are speaking the truth and reminding our nation that their is inequalities in pur country and that we must address them in order to live up to our own American doctrine&#8230;ok.</p>
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