Furthermore, HIV/AIDS is the leading cause of death for black women age 25-34, and African-Americans comprise half of the people who have contracted HIV in the U.S. Given the stunning indifference of public officials to these facts, that the government has disallowed treatment for “experimentation” purposes in the past, it is a paranoid but not entirely unfounded leap to suggest that the government might be responsible. While the U.S.[/quote]

SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!!!!

So let me get this STRAIGHT – you are equating the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment with the charges that a super virus was CREATED by the US Government? You make the case that this is NOT CRAZY?

I have a new tactic that I would like to run past you for a second.

I now evaluate CONSPIRACY THEORISTS by

1) Assuming that their CT’s are TRUE
and then

2) Evaluating their actions based on the assumption that they believe in what they say.

SO LET ME ASK YOU….

Do you believe that there are any US GOVERNMENT ACTIONS that are KEPT SECRET FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

Is there anything that is TOO CLASSIFIED for the Commander In Chief to be briefed on?

So if this is NOT THE CASE -then PRESIDENT OBAMA, upon taking office should be expected to ASK THE TOP SECRET AGENCY THAT CREATED THE AIDS VIRUS for a briefing. He then should command them to allow the serum that kills the virus to be released thus ending the epidemic in the Black community and around the world.

PLEASE FIND THE FLAWS IN THIS CLAIM?

If you are going to worship Obama AT LEAST GET SOMETHING OF MEANING OUT OF HIM!!!!

Furthermore, HIV/AIDS is the leading cause of death for black women age 25-34, and African-Americans comprise half of the people who have contracted HIV in the U.S. Given the stunning indifference of public officials to these facts, that the government has disallowed treatment for “experimentation” purposes in the past, it is a paranoid but not entirely unfounded leap to suggest that the government might be responsible. While the U.S.[/quote]

SIMPLY AMAZING!!!!!!!

So let me get this STRAIGHT – you are equating the Tuskegee Syphilis experiment with the charges that a super virus was CREATED by the US Government? You make the case that this is NOT CRAZY?

I have a new tactic that I would like to run past you for a second.

I now evaluate CONSPIRACY THEORISTS by

1) Assuming that their CT’s are TRUE
and then

2) Evaluating their actions based on the assumption that they believe in what they say.

SO LET ME ASK YOU….

Do you believe that there are any US GOVERNMENT ACTIONS that are KEPT SECRET FROM THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES?

Is there anything that is TOO CLASSIFIED for the Commander In Chief to be briefed on?

So if this is NOT THE CASE -then PRESIDENT OBAMA, upon taking office should be expected to ASK THE TOP SECRET AGENCY THAT CREATED THE AIDS VIRUS for a briefing. He then should command them to allow the serum that kills the virus to be released thus ending the epidemic in the Black community and around the world.

PLEASE FIND THE FLAWS IN THIS CLAIM?

If you are going to worship Obama AT LEAST GET SOMETHING OF MEANING OUT OF HIM!!!!

:) I’m chillin’, I think. But, how does military background relate to HIV? Re Autism, I believe the idea is that preservatives in the vaccines are the problem – not any intention to cause harm.

I’m comfortable in my beliefs. I’m just wondering how you negotiate the Government given your beliefs. It must be terrifying!

on Dr. Wangari Maathai’s wiki page, there’s a picture of her and Barack Obama!

Re Wangari Maathai
copy from wiki

In a 2004 interview with Time Magazine, in response to the question, “You’ve said that AIDS is a biological weapon manufactured by the developing world to wipe out black people. Do you still believe that?” Maathai replied, “I have no idea who created aids and whether it is a biological agent or not. But I do know things like that don’t come from the moon. I have always thought that it is important to tell people the truth, but I guess there is some truth that must not be too exposed,” and when asked what she meant, she continued, “I’m referring to AIDS. I am sure people know where it came from. And I’m quite sure it did not come from the monkeys.”[6]

In response she issued the following statement:
“ I have warned people against false beliefs and misinformation such as attributing this disease to a curse from God or believing that sleeping with a virgin cures the infection. These prevalent beliefs in my region have led to an upsurge in rape and violence against children. It is within this context, also complicated by the cultural and religious perspective, that I often speak. I have therefore been shocked by the ongoing debate generated by what I am purported to have said. It is therefore critical for me to state that I neither say nor believe that the virus was developed by white people or white powers in order to destroy the African people. Such views are wicked and destructive.[7]

Her first comment is off the cuff and seems irresponsible for someone trained in the scientific method. She offers no research to back up her extraordinary claim. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Her later comment is more sober…she acknowledges the harm of false beliefs.

but seriously though, Kenya, there is no evidence to suggest that AIDS was engineered to kill black people, especially since it’s not a very efficient killer. AIDS is not very contagious and it kills slowly. Weaponized agents do both very well.

There are also plenty of other diseases that we don’t have a natural immunity to…are you going to suggest that Malaria and TB are also weaponized agents engineered to destroy black africans?

And it’s misleading to cite Dr. Maathai as a source on this issue by citing her “nobel prize” because she won it for her contributions to sustainable development.

Furthermore she is trained as a veterinarian, not a physician.

As for some of the info on the origins of HIV/AIDS theories, see
Nobel Peace Prize laureate, Wangari Maathai; Oxford University professor, W. D. Hamilton; Dr. Leonard G. Horowitz.

I will be glad when we all start to research more subjects before we dismiss them as crazy and out of the realm of possibility. You will find that in July 1, 1969 Congressional Record in which a physician mentions a government-sponsored research project that would create a “synthetic biological agent … for which no natural immunity would have been acquired.”

What medical degree does Rev. Wright have? How does Rev. Wright’s medical degree uniquely qualify him to determine and disseminate that HIV is a Govt. engineered virus used to deliberately infect blacks?

Before you misunderstand..

YOU are NOT being condescending to Black folk.

It’s just that I watch those commentators bring it up, like it’s just out of the realm of possibility….someone brings up Tuskegee, and they acknowledge it, then want to change the subject. What I appreciate about Medical Apartheid is that just as they want to change the subject from Tuskegee, you can pivot it to ANOTHER example.

They want to make Tuskegee look like a freak accident…

While Medical Apartheid shows a pattern…..

And, if you know about the pattern..

Black folks’ ‘paranoia’ doesn’t look so crazy after all.

That’s great.

I have volunteered in GA and IL. I have also contributed cash to his campaign and purchased items both online and at parties.

I will also continue to volunteer and phone bank.

I have written to various agencies, news outlets and representatives and would have and will continue to do what ever is necessary.

It isn’t that I don’t want to talk about it….whatever it is.

I am on the “get obama winning campaign.” I’m willing to talk things all day long…but my first goal right now is to get Sen. Obama our nominee and frankly all conversations are secondary for me at this point.

I am saving my money and saving my energy for Obama’s candidacy.

But in the end….my only point is talking without action doesn’t get the job done.

I’m not saying you are not acting….I am only here to encourage.

Please remember that I volunteered for Obama in South Carolina and Alamaba.

God Bless.

Sorry you don’t want to talk about this – we do.

If you are trying to change minds, you are not doing it….are you just preaching to the choir…ok.

How do you reach across the cultural divide that I believe Sen. Obama can do?

It has to be done by ways other than concentrating on Rev. Wright.

Please edit your post to include the following:

A suggestion to read
Medical Apartheid-The Dark History of Medical Experimentation on Black Americans from Colonial Times to the Present
Written by Harriet A. Washington

Read that and see if you can come with that condescention about Black folks’ ‘paranoia’.

This is really all that needs to be said. It’s that simple.

Most people know right from wrong.